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Red Wings overnight report: preparing for the 1st round, trade talk & a final round of mock drafts

Updated 2x with notes about a Datsyukian robbery and the summer development camp at 4:44 AM: The first post-Jim Nill draft is going to be particularly interesting to me...

But given the amount of trade talk we've been hearing, you and I might end up waiting as long to watch the Red Wings make the 15th overall pick  this evening (or trade down, as RedWingsCentral's suggested; the first round takes place this evening at 7 PM EDT, on NBCSN and TSN; rounds 2-7 take place at 10 AM tomorrow on the NHL Network and streamed online at NHL.com) as we've waited to watch the Wings pick in the mid-20's in previous drafts.

I honestly believe that the first round might take the longest of any first round that's been televised--the first round is usually a three-hour affair, but the reporters in Philly might be nodding off at 11:30 if any of the chatter we've heard comes to fruition, so if you plan on watching, prepare for a hurry-up-and-wait affair.

On Wednesday and Thursday, Red Wings director of amateur scouting Tyler Wright gave several interviews hinting at the Wings' general draft strategy, and this morning, Ken Holland tells the Free Press's Helene St. James that he's

“I”m excited about this year’s draft because of what we’ve got already,” general manager Ken Holland said. “We’re hoping to get another good prospect. We’re trying to build up, get as many prospects as we can and hope some of them end up in the NHL and help us win games.”

In 2013, the Wings left the first round with Anthony Mantha, a now two-time 50-goal scorer in juniors who was still available at 20th overall. At 15, the choices remain high-end — several skilled forwards could be available, such as Alex Tuch, Adrian Kempe, Kasperi Kapanen, Sonny Milano, Robby Fabbri and Dyan Larkin, along with defensemen Jack Dougherty, Julius Honka and Haydn Fleury.

The Wings' picks are as follows: 15th in the 1st round; no pick in the 2nd round (due to the David Legwand trade), 76th in the 3rd round, 106th in the 4th round, 136th in the 5th round, 166th in the 6th round and 196th (the Wings' pick) and 201st (conditional pick from the Sharks' signing of Brad Stuart) in the 7th round.

Again, the weirdest part of this draft is that Nill and Joe McDonnell's Stars pick exactly one spot before the Wings, so this is a draft where we're likely to see the teams pursuing similar players, and the Stars have the advantage here (if you recall, the Wings had at least remote hopes that Valeri Nichushkin could've slid down to them last year, but the Stars scooped him up with their 10th overall pick).

St. James reviews the Wings' first-round record over the past half-decade--it's kind of spotty--before concluding with the following:

The huge reliance on young players last season, along with UFA markets weakened by teams re-signing star players, lies behind the Wings’ renewed draft enthusiasm. Sheahan, Gustav Nyquist, Tomas Tatar, Tomas Jurco — selections from 2008 through 2011 — have showed they’re NHL-caliber. Mantha will get a shot this fall.

“When you look at what we did last year, with our prospects, it’s exciting,” Holland said. “We’ve got a lot of guys with NHL potential. We’re hoping to get some more this weekend.”

St. James added a pair of Tweets as well, and they'll serve as our transition between draft talk and trade talk (for the moment):

The latter Tweet might suggest that the Wings aren't keen on a two-year term for Boyle, because the Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch reported that Boyle's looking for 2 years (at least) at $5.5 million or more.

You probably know by now that the "wining and dining period" has allowed the Wings to speak with Boyle's agent, George Bazos, with Matt Niskanen's prickly agent, Neil Sheehy, with Jarome Iginla's agent, Don Meehan (he represented Nicklas Lidstrom), and the Detroit News's Ted Kulfan surmises that the Wings have probably talked to Anton Stralman's representative, and Tom Gilbert's agent, too.

Kulfan asked Holland to weigh in on the draft-day-trade talk, including Thursday's Darren Dreger-posited suggestions that the Wings are eyeing Keith Yandle and/or Tyler Myers:

“We’re going to explore,” said Red Wings general manager Ken Holland, who is looking for a goal-scoring winger capable of playing on the top two lines or a top-four righthanded defenseman. “There’s a bunch of names out there.”

Players like Livonia native Ryan Kesler (Canucks) and Jason Spezza (Senators), although both appear headed to Western Conference contenders.

And defensemen Keith Yandle (Coyotes), Alex Edler (Canucks) and Dustin Byfuglien (Jets).

But, Holland isn’t ready to part with the asking price, likely forwards Gustav Nyquist, Tomas Tatar, Riley Sheahan or Tomas Jurco.

“Everybody else is trying to win, too,” Holland said. “There’s 29 other teams that are trying to do the same thing. We’re all trying to be a playoff team. So deals are tough.”

Holland probably attended the Board of Governors' meetings in New York on Thursday, and while we won't know the salary cap's "upper limit's" figure for a little while yet (sounds like it'll be $70 million instead of $71 million, which squeezes the Wings' cap situation a bit), and KH must have absolutely adored this wrinkle, as reported by the CBC's Elliotte Friedman:

 

 

 

The last two days' worth of mock drafts have leaned toward a pair of consensus "likely Wings picks"--US NTDP forward Dylan Larkin (that would be intriguing from a "local angle" standpoint as he's from Waterford [though his favorite team is Toronto?] and is going to the University of Michigan) or HV71 Jonkoping forward Kevin Fiala.

As I was writing this, the Free Press happened to posit an article in which George Sipple spoke with Larkin about possibly "staying home" if the Wings pick him:

“I’m not just saying this, but I really do want to get drafted by Detroit,” Larkin said. “I think it would be cool. Obviously, grew up watching them. I’d be really happy with that.”

He will end up smiling regardless of who selects him, surrounded by family members on draft night.

“You’re not in control,” he said. “In a big game, you’re in control, how you prepare, how you feel. But this, you don’t have any control.”

Larkin, a 6-foot-1, 190-pound left-shooting center, does control where he plays next and has said all along he is going to U-M. When he was interviewed by every NHL team at the combine in Toronto in May, he made it clear he intended to play for the Wolverines. He is expected to be an impact player as a freshman, playing on one of the top two lines.

“It’s exciting to see where the Big Ten is going,” Larkin said after watching Michigan move from the disbanded Central Collegiate Hockey Association to the six-team Big Ten Conference last season.

As for this morning's mock drafts, they tend to lean toward Fiala, with SI's Allan Muir suggesting that the Wings will pick the Swiss mini-mite...

15 Detroit red wings
Kevin fiala, Center
HV71 (sweden) | 5-10, 180
[2013-2014 stats]: 3-8-11 in 17 games

The Skinny: Swiss sensation was standout in international tournaments.

Why him? High-end skill and hockey sense makes him a perfect fit for the Wings

Scouts say: “Forced you to pay attention every time he was on the ice. Was a point-a-game guy in Swedish juniors, and didn't blink when he was promoted to play against the men. Thinks as fast as he skates. Has that ability to make a play when it looks like he's out of options. Great vision. He's magic when the puck's on his stick. High-end offensive instincts. High-ceiling player. Some guys lack size and you worry about them. I'm not worried about Fiala. He's a project. Needs to live in the gym for awhile before he can come over here. Not the most focused player away from the puck, but that's something you can teach. You can't teach this kind of skill.”

And the Philadelphia Inquirer's Sam Carchidi agrees with Muir's assessment...

15 Red Wings - Kevin Fiala (LW) HV 71 (Sweden Jr.): Just 5-9 but explosive; led Swiss in 2014 WJC with five points despite being youngest player.

But The Score's Justin Bourne believes that the Wings will draft a center I haven't heard of until today:

15. Detroit Red Wings
Brayden Point, C

Scouting Report: Brayden Point was part of Team Canada's gold medal team at the 2013 Ivan Hlinka Memorial Tournament scoring four points in five games. As a smaller forward, Point models his game after Buffalo Sabres forward Tyler Ennis. Read More.

NHL.com lists Point as the 31st-best North American skater, which is waaaaaayyy down from the rankings that the Wings might have available, and he's Fiala-sized at 5'10" and 160 pounds:

• In 2013-14, Point led Moose Jaw and tied for 12th in Western Hockey League scoring with 91 points (36-55—91) in 72 games. He finished the season 36 points ahead of the next highest-scoring player on his team.

• Point was an assistant captain for Team Canada at the 2014 Under-18 World Championship, tallying two assists in four games for the bronze-medal winning club.

• He scored four points (1-3—4) in five games for Canada’s gold-medal winning team at the 2013 Ivan Hlinka Memorial and served as an assistant captain for Team Pacific at the 2013 Under-17 World Hockey Challenge (2-3—5 in five games).

• Point finished fourth in WHL scoring among first-year players and paced all North American rookies with 24 goals and 57 points in 67 games during the 2012-13 season.

• In 2011-12, Point tallied 41 points (19-22—41) in 32 games with the Calgary Buffaloes of the Alberta AAA Midget Hockey League before joining the Warriors in the WHL Playoffs. He tallied 10 points (7-3—10) in 14 postseason games with Moose Jaw, including three game-winning goals, two of which came in overtime (2OT in Game 4 of their first-round series vs. Regina; OT in Game 4 of their second-round series vs. Medicine Hat).

• His brother, Riley, played in the Alberta Junior Hockey League and now plays for Red Deer College in the Canadian Collegiate Athletic Association.

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Director of NHL Central Scouting, Dan Marr: "What makes him stand out is that he's one of those guys who won't be denied. He has that competitive factor where he can go out there, make a difference and make it at a quick pace."

We'll head back to the Detroit News's Kulfan for this note...

Tyler Wright, director of amateur scouting for the Red Wings, doesn’t believe there’s a glaring, specific need at any one position in the organization.

In fact, he believes there are several defensemen and forwards at Grand Rapids who aren’t far from hitting the NHL, as well as goaltender Petr Mrazek.

And again, here's what Wright told MLive's Ansar Khan...

"We're confident we're going to get a good player at 15," Wright said. "Whether it's a forward or defenseman, we'll take the best player available."

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"I think the center position is a major piece of a building block in a lot of organizations," Wright said. "You can never have enough centers."

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"We'd like maybe a right-handed shot on the back end – size, speed through the middle of the ice," Wright said. "You can never have enough puck-moving D and scoring wingers."

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"Passports are really irrelevant," Wright said. "We have to be visionaries. We have to start projecting who's going to be the best player 4-5 years down the road. The Red Wings have done a tremendous job developing players once you get them in the system. We just got to get good players. We want passionate, hard-working players who won't stop at anything to get into the National Hockey League. Passion and character are big to me."

And the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness:

“I think it’s one of the more challenging drafts,” said Tyler Wright, Detroit’s new director of amateur scouting. “Nobody has separated themselves at the top. There’s a mix of three, four or five guys at the top, but after that anyone can go from there.”

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In past drafts the Wings have focused on drafting players with good size, but would prefer players with good hockey sense.

 "That wins you games,” Wright said. “You can still have smaller players in the lineup, but you have to surround them with bigger players. Size is something we definitely will take into consideration.”

Trading down is always a possibility for the Wings, who have seven picks in this year’s draft.

“Trading down is always an option,” Wright said. “With no second round pick we really have to see how the draft goes. If we have a guy who is high on our list and slides down to us I would recommend taking the pick.”

I tend not to make draft-pick predictions--the Wings do nothing but surprise me, year after year, but Hockey's Future's Kevin Forbes listed a player available from the QMJHL who I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wings pick if he sticks around into the 3rd round:

3. Nicolas Aube-Kubel, RW Val-d'Or Foreurs
5'11", 187 lbs.

One of the benefits for a draft eligible player participating in a long playoff run is it provides extra opportunity to show off your abilities. For Nicolas Aube-Kubel and the Val-d'Or Foreurs, winners of the QMJHL's President's Cup as league champions and participants in the Memorial Cup, their playoff run could hardly have been longer.

Playing behind league scoring champion Anthony Mantha, Aube-Kubel played an instrumental role in the Foreurs success, providing secondary offense and tenacious fore-checking. This might, one day, be a job description that he fills at the pro level as well. A high-energy, fleet-footed forward, Aube-Kubel had 22 goals and 53 points in the 65 regular season games of his sophomore year and followed that with four goals and 13 points in 24 post-season matches.

NHL.com lists Aube-Kubel as the 40th-ranked North American skater, and while he's small, it's that playoff run that really propelled him up the rankings. NHL.com's scouting report reads as follows...

NHL Central Scouting’s Chris Bordeleau: "He reminds me a little of Jason Pominville, only a little stronger at the same age. He's very involved and shoots the puck really well. He plays in all situations.”

But I must point out that the Hockey News's draft preview had scouts bagging on Aube-Kubel for benefitting from playing on a QMJHL championship-winning team, so the reason I believe he might last into the third round is that scouts might believe that he's a Martin Frk II--somebody who's going to really struggle transitioning into pro hockey because he's dominating in the up-and-down QMJHL with strong linemates.

 

 

 

Otherwise...The Detroit Free Press is hosting a chat with 97.1 the Ticket's Paul Woods today at 11 AM;

You are most certainly familiar with most of the free agents listed in NHL.com's Dan Rosen's list of the best UFA-to-be defensemen out there, but this guy's scouting report earned a smile from me....

Quincey played 82 games this past season. That in itself is a feat considering how badly the Red Wings were beset by injuries.

He was physical, but not overly physical. He blocked 109 shots and put up 13 points. There was nothing spectacular about his game, except he was always there and always willing to move up and down the lineup.

There are moments when he makes a blunder that leaves you shaking your head, but he can be physical, move the puck and isn't a liability in the defensive end. If placed in the right role, he can be effective.

(Head-shaking blunders and Quincey? Naaaaahhh)

And I'm going to throw this name out there and ask you what you think--because it sounds like he's going to Minnesota at this point:

Willie Mitchell

Previous team: Los Angeles Kings

Age: 37

Last contract: 2 years, $7 million

Mitchell  would certainly would like to return, but media reports say the Kings plan to go with a cheaper option such as Brayden McNabb, who was acquired on March 5 in a trade with the Buffalo Sabres.

The signing of forward Marian Gaborik took up a chunk of general manager Dean Lombardi's remaining room under the salary cap. The Kings already have five veteran defensemen under contract, and barring a last-minute move, Mitchell looks like he'll have to play somewhere else if he hopes to continue his career.

I'm not keen on Mitchell, but he does fit the "big and mean" role. The Sports Forecaster describes him as follows:

Assets:  Is a huge presence and displays terrific defensive instincts and leadership. Possesses a decent shot from the point. Loves the challenge of shutting opponents down, and will use physicality.

Flaws:  Offensively, he is pretty much limited to his shot so he gets into trouble when trying to do too much with the puck. Is a little inconsistent in the hitting department. Injuries can be an issue.

Career Potential:  Savvy veteran defenseman.

Meh. If the Wings don't land Niskanen, Boyle or Gilbert, I'm fine with the team going with "the kids."

 

 

 

And finally, I'm almost there! Literally and figuratively!

 

 

Over the three years that the Wings have held development camps in Traverse City, I've asked for your help in raising the finances to cover my hotel and gas bills, and you've been amazingly and remarkably kind in affording me the opportunity to "work for you"; due to my present financial circumstances, I'm afraid that I have to ask for your assistance again.

If there's any way that you can lend a financial hand in my attempts to get up to Traverse City for the summer development camp and/or eventually to attend the prospect tournament and main camp in the fall, I would be incredibly grateful for any help.

I'm sticking with Paypal as it's the most direct route (though I will also do the whole, "Give me your address and I'll send you a check or a few bucks in the mail" thing, too), and you have to use my email address, rtxg at yahoo dot com, as the recipient.

Here's the button:

If you can aid the cause, I'd be incredibly grateful; if you can't, I understand, and as usual, literally any amount helps. You'd be surprised how many $5, $10 and $20 donations end up paying my way. Thanks.

 

 

 

Update: FYI/FTR: Via Sovetsky Sport's Mikhail Potapov, the ITAR-TASS news agency reports that the Russian authorities are closing in on the suspects who stole nearly $50,000 worth of items from Pavel Datsyuk's Yekaterinburg apartment last summer. There was no security camera footage, but ITAR-TASS's Julia Temereva reports that the Ministry of Internal Affairs for Sverdlovsk (the equivalent of the Russian state police) believes that a team of "super-professional" criminals targeted Datsyuk.

 

 

 

Update #2: FYI regarding the Wings' summer development camp, from the Bayshore Resort:

Detroit Red Wings Development Camp, July 4-8

All practices will be open to the public, including an intrasquad scrimmage on Saturday, July 5. Tickets will be available only at Center ICE Arena for $5 per day at the door on each day of the event.

DWR Goalie Coach Jim Bedard will be holding a clinic on July 3rd and 7th.  Call Centre ICE to register. Limited to 24 people. Cost is $69 per goalie and jersey will be provided.

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alwaysaurie's avatar

I’ve no interest in the UFA defensemen at their expected price except for Gilbert.

And I don’t think Gilbert will sign as cheaply as others seem to believe (I’ve heard a lot of folks suggesting a bid of $2.4m or so will be enough).

I think he’ll command more than what Edmonton foolishly paid him as a RFA years ago(6 years averaging $4m/year). 6 years is longer than I’d like… I’d like him at 2-4 years but I don’t think that’ll be a winning bid.

Posted by alwaysaurie on 06/27/14 at 04:10 AM ET

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George, as usual, if you find this offensive or inappropriate, you can delete this post. I know you don’t want to put out an exact figure nor an exact deadline, but from the sounds of it your realistic deadline is Monday, and absolute deadline probably Tuesday, maybe Wednesday. I’ve got a few big bills to sort through, but I might be able to donate again. My hunch by your hints are you’re almost at the minimum necessary, and a bit more would give you a cushion/peace of mind for the travels.

I’m just glad those “super-professionals” only took merchandise and didn’t go after Datsyuk.

I guess the ideal then (in sounding too obvious) is if a team overspends on the free agent, then they’re vulnerable elsewhere on the team, and have to let someone else go hopefully at a better price than the free agent. I’m not against KH overspending if seems relatively good odds, but I also don’t know how fruitful the trade market is going to be this summer when dealing with teams that are over the cap.

Posted by Bugsy on 06/27/14 at 05:48 AM ET

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If we don’t land Niskanen Boyle, Gilbert, or Stralman, I guess I’d be okay with “the kids’ too, at least insofar as we’re talking strictly about free agency.  Maybe there’s a trade worth making, too.

Just don’t re-sign Quincey. 

I guess I have a longer list, actually, up front.  It’s pretty clear that the Red Wings are seeking Iginla as Plan A and using Alfredsson as some kind of backup.  I’d at least send some feelers to Jussi Jokinen, Radim Vrbata, and Milan Michalek as well—and maybe even Moulson and Vanek, who I assume are way out of our price/term range.  Jokinen’s proven himself useful as a complementary scorer, he’s got a knack for the shootout, and he can play center or wing equally well, which we might need given Weiss’s question-mark status.  Vrbata’s a right-handed shot who can score.  Michalek brings some size and skating ability to the table and could be a good middle-sixer for us.

It’s not like I’ll be heartbroken if we bring Alfie back rather than sign on of these guys, but if they’re available at reasonable costs and Alfie’s back is still a question mark, we should really consider them.

Posted by captaineclectic on 06/27/14 at 07:49 AM ET

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Just don’t re-sign Cleary.

Posted by George0211 on 06/27/14 at 08:35 AM ET

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I sense that the UFA market will be very pricey and that’s why Kenny is pessimistic about landing a player that way.  A trade is more doable, but I don’t like giving up guys like Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, DeKeyser or Mantha, etc. unless we get someone really good who isn’t a granddad already. I feel like Kenny gives up more than he gets when he does a trade.

Posted by Heresy from Aiken, SC on 06/27/14 at 08:48 AM ET

Mandingo's avatar

Anyone know if the first round is streaming online anywhere?

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/27/14 at 08:50 AM ET

Hootinani's avatar

TSN usually does, but only for Canadian viewers.

Posted by Hootinani on 06/27/14 at 09:49 AM ET

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Its time for the Red Wings to $h!t or get off the pot. Either they are able to do something that shores up their defense and make another push while they have two of the league’s elite, OR, they make a major trade for the FUTURE, not the present, and go on the full rebuild.

I know that’s not what wingsnuts want to hear, they want Kenny to turn water into red wine, but if we’re going to be back in contention, we need to get some prosective stars and build a stanley cup team around them, and in a Capped sport, free agency is not the path.  You draft well, you build prospects and you maximize the elite talent while you have it.  Build up a team up, make a run, spend a bit of the future, and then know when to tear it down, sell off to retool and build back up again. 

LIdstrom is in Sweden, Pavel and Hank are great but don’t have the cast to support them in their dwindling window of greatness, it’s time to flush the toilet, and get some fresh water in the bowl!

Posted by MurrayChadwick on 06/27/14 at 10:29 AM ET

Primis's avatar

Great news that Boyle may be out of the picture.

Posted by Primis on 06/27/14 at 11:16 AM ET

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Anyone know if the first round is streaming online anywhere?

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/27/14 at 08:50 AM ET

NBCSN is carrying it.  They have an app for smartphones, which would be an option if no other surfaces.

 

Posted by Colquhoun on 06/27/14 at 12:02 PM ET

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I sense that the UFA market will be very pricey and that’s why Kenny is pessimistic about landing a player that way.

I guess Kenny just fell off the turnip truck then. The UFA market is always pricey. It always will be. He knows that.

The trade market usually costs things too. It’s great the Wings develop talent so well, and I’m optimistic for the future - 4-5 years from now - but if they want to avoid a full rebuild, they will have to pay for it now, in trade or salary.

Niskanen is my choice. Trade for Myers or Yandle would be good too. I don’t know much about Gilbert, so maybe that’s the guy.

Its time for the Red Wings to $h!t or get off the pot.

Hallelujah.

Posted by awould on 06/27/14 at 12:51 PM ET

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What’s funny is someone earlier said Nyquist/Erricson and a 2nd for Myers.. Are you kidding? I MIGHT make that for Shea Weber. Maybe… Just sign Niskanen AND trade for a scoring winger or another d-man that isn’t bad as lashoff/kindl.

Posted by Pasha1277 on 06/27/14 at 12:54 PM ET

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Posted by Pasha1277 on 06/27/14 at 12:54 PM ET

Yeah, that was Captain Bob. He’s no longer with us.

Posted by awould on 06/27/14 at 01:02 PM ET

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CB posted that? whhhaaa?

Posted by Pasha1277 on 06/27/14 at 01:10 PM ET

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Either they are able to do something that shores up their defense and make another push while they have two of the league’s elite, OR, they make a major trade for the FUTURE, not the present, and go on the full rebuild.

—- I’m not sure if I’m reading this correctly.

Does, “major trade for the future,” mean shipping Datsyuk and/or Zetterberg for 1st round picks(top-5 of the 1st round type of 1st-round picks)?

Personally I like the rebuild we are currently doing(I believe we just ended year-2 of our 3-year-rebuild). It’s working out much better than I thought it would back in the summer of 2012, but the other option is to try to build a team the way Chicago & Pittsburgh did with 2 or 3 top-5 picks in consecutive years.

Murray, does“major trade” mean top-5 picks?

Posted by alwaysaurie on 06/27/14 at 01:12 PM ET

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I hope we draft Dylan Larkin.

Posted by fuleko on 06/27/14 at 01:19 PM ET

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Does, “major trade for the future,” mean shipping Datsyuk and/or Zetterberg for 1st round picks(top-5 of the 1st round type of 1st-round picks)?

Posted by alwaysaurie on 06/27/14 at 01:12 PM ET

Yes ma’am, Datsyuk, Hank, Franzen, Kronwal, Howard (lol), anyone over 30 years old, float them out for grabs. 

Not all of them mind you, but 1 or 2.  Could you imagine what the likes of Pavel or Kronwall would fetch this team at the deadline, not just some 1st rounder, it would need to be a hefty return, because if you couldn’t swing a king’s ransom then you wouldn’t deal a player like Pavel, Mule sure.  You couple what you would get in return, with our diminished strength to win games, and we’re also drafting much higher with our own picks, and our kids are starting to get more top 6 type minutes.

I know, you probably don’t want to do that, you “like” what we’re doing now, just floating around on dirty water, with the rest of the non-contending terds, with a few elite peanuts in our mix, but let me paint you a picture of how this pans out..

Without picking up a legitimate #1/#2 on defense, this team is not a cup contender, unless you think Howard will transform into an all-star. We may have that guy in our system in GR, but he’s not going to be that guy for at least 2-3 years, same goes for Mantha.  So in the meantime we waddle around the middle of the pack for 1-2 years, doing nada, and when they hopefully become those elite players, Pavel is heading off to Russia to finish up, Hank’s not playing up to his contract hit due to age, Mule is Todd Bertuzzi 2014 who is paid more, and is less humorous regarding water bottles, and Howards contract is blocking the true #1 on this team mrazek, which is where we’re at today, just floating around on dirty water with the rest of the non-contending terds, with a few different elite peanuts in our mix.

When if we acted now, we’d have Mantha and hopefully 2-3 stud dman, and whatever other top prospect/talent we acquired via trade, and then we might be a contender again.

I know it’s hard for us to phathom, but not every talented player in the NHL finishes his career with the team that drafted them.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick on 06/27/14 at 02:10 PM ET

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When if we acted now, we’d have Mantha and hopefully 2-3 stud dman, and whatever other top prospect/talent we acquired via trade, and then we might be a contender again… Plus grizzled talented leadership from in their prime veterans like Gus, Tatar-Tot, Shehan, and Jurco.

Posted by MurrayChadwick on 06/27/14 at 02:13 PM ET

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Posted by MurrayChadwick on 06/27/14 at 02:10 PM ET

I respect your view here, but I completely disagree and I don’t think

a) the “turd” thing is called for once (much less twice)

b) that either Franzen or Howard would fetch much.  We’re talking Datsyuk/Z/Kronwall for a big return, and I wouldn’t do it unless totally blown away—and no one “close” to a Cup has what we’d need and would offer it.

Posted by captaineclectic on 06/27/14 at 02:18 PM ET

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Posted by captaineclectic on 06/27/14 at 02:18 PM ET

a) Just a little fun on a Friday, playing of the flush the toilet analogy I originally made. Wings are a middle of the pack team, they’re not Toronto.

b) Correct, Franzen or Howard would fetch much, certainly not prime talent, but I could see the Blues giving us something worthwhile for one of them, it would be more so to get their cap hits off the books for our next wave of talent.

Posted by MurrayChadwick on 06/27/14 at 03:30 PM ET

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