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Red Wings overnight report: on the playoff chase, Darren McCarty and the JLA lease

The Red Wings took Monday off to watch Opening Day and apparently drink some terrible beer in the owners' suite at Comerica Park...

But the team will resume practicing today at Joe Louis Arena, preparing for a stretch of 3 games in 4 nights (against Boston on Wednesday, against Buffalo on Friday and in Montreal on Saturday) and then a season-ending stretch of 4 games in 6 nights (in Buffalo on Tuesday the 8th, in Pittsburgh on Wednesday the 9th, at home vs. Carolina on Friday the 11th and in St. Louis on Sunday the 13th; I highly recommend MonkeyWrench32's desktop schedules).

The Wild Card standings are still quite messy and Washington keeps winning, but there is some good news regarding the Wings' ability to stand up against the Beasts of the East on Wednesday (NBSCN game no less), and it comes from the Boston Globe's Fluto Shinzawa:

The Bruins enjoyed a day off Monday. It was a reward well-earned for completing a punishing March that produced magical results.

The Bruins played 17 games jammed into a 31-day month. They played six sets of back-to-backs, all involving travel. They reeled off a 15-1-1 run that plopped them 9 points ahead of second-place Pittsburgh in the Eastern Conference.

“When you play 17 games in 31 days and you lose one shootout game, that’s pretty impressive for this group,” said coach Claude Julien. “They’ve stayed focused. They’ve stayed humble. They’ve stayed determined. So I’m pretty proud of the way we handled this month.”

They will now reap the benefits of that run. Starting Wednesday against the Red Wings, they will begin the process of resting their lead dogs. It’s possible that some players may not make the two-game swing to Detroit and Toronto. It’s just as likely the big boys will stay home for the two-game trip the following week to Minnesota and Winnipeg.

The Bruins can make three more recalls from Providence before the conclusion of the regular season. They will exercise all or part of that option.

Yay? Given the Wings' struggles against Pittsburgh last month, and the fact that the Blue Jackets are 2 points behind Detroit's 82 with a game in hand (and 38 wins to Detroit's 35 and 33 regulation-or-OT wins to Detroit's 30), the Capitals are 3 points behind the Wings (with 34 wins and 28 ROWs) and the Leafs and Devils aren't quite dead yet.

The Wings will take all the help they can get, and given their predictable habit of laying eggs against bottom-dwellers, the team's pair of games against Buffalo and home finale against Carolina might be as uncertain in terms of, "Can the Wings keep up with the competition" as the tilts against Boston, Montreal, Pittsburgh and St. Louis.

The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan took note of the team's status on Monday evening...

“We have a lot of teams (in the mix) and everyone is going to be playing for their playoff lives,” Gustav Nyquist said. “It’s a good thing we have it in our own hands. We’ve got Washington breathing down our necks, and Columbus is right with us here. Toronto’s in the mix, too.”

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“We’re just plugging away, grinding away,” coach Mike Babcock said. “We’re trying to find a way to get into the playoffs.”

The schedule appears to favor the Red Wings heading into these final days. There are seven games left, but included in that mix are two games (one home, one away) against Buffalo -- the worst team in the league with 49 points. The Red Wings also host Carolina April 11, a team on the fringes of playoff contention.

Games next week on the road against Pittsburgh and St. Louis would appear to be difficult tasks, but both the Penguins and Blues could be locked into playoff seeds by that juncture and may not have anything to play for.

Wednesday’s game against Boston, and the road game Saturday in Montreal, appear to be the Red Wings’ most difficult games remaining.

The Wings remain without Pavel Datsyuk, who the Free Press's Helene St. James reported will try to ramp things up today, without Stephen Weiss, who proclaimed his groin OK last Friday, sans Henrik Zetterberg, who won't be back unless the Wings get to at least the end of a 1st-round run, the ever-broken Daniel Cleary and Mikael Samuelsson are out...

And we haven't heard anything about Jonathan Ericsson, whose absence due to a broken finger has turned the Wings' third defensive pair into an adventure. Jakub Kindl's pair of assists on Sunday were awesome, but they didn't make up for the fact that Kindl and Brian Lashoff have proven themselves only partially capable of being thrown over the boards without Red Wings fans clutching for their paper bags, anxiety medication and liquor, and Brendan Smith + Niklas Kronwall trying to force offense =

In all honesty, even though I'm a staunch Jimmy Howard defender (to my detriment in the comments section), I'm afraid that he's gonna lay an egg along the way as well as he has yet to find any real consistent form.

There isn't a bunch of narrative-supporting news this morning, save ESPN's Craig Custance estimating that Gustav Nyquist will score just under 30 goals next year and some chatter with Pierre LeBrun (Nyquist is not Calder Trophy-eligible; the Wings would be in tough against Pittsburgh or Boston; lather, rinse, repeat) some power rankings (which I will get to shortly) and some stuff about the Wings' new lease on Joe Louis Arena (ditto), so I'm going to try to close things out with something of a point-counterpoint, and then a thought.

First, the point-counterpoint. This fantasy hockey note from NHL.com's Matt Sitkoff has someone who's been on the Calle Jarnkrok bandwagon jittery as *#$%@&...

Calle Jarnkrok -- Drafted in the second round of the 2010 draft (No. 51) by the Red Wings, Jarnkrok was acquired by the Predators at the NHL Trade Deadline for veteran center David Legwand. The 22-year-old Jarnkrok was part of Sweden's gold-medal team from the 2013 IIHF World Championship and started his North American career last season with the Grand Rapids Griffins of the American Hockey League and was part of that team's run to the Calder Cup. His first full season in the AHL started great, with 36 points in 57 with Grand Rapids, and he continued that hot play with seven points in his five games played with Milwaukee, Nashville's AHL team. That prompted his promotion to Nashville. The 5-foot-11 forward has five points in six NHL games and could be a great pickup, especially in keeper/dynasty leagues.

But the inconsistent David Legwand (when Legwand, Johan Franzen and Daniel Alfredsson are on the same line, it's bouncy-ball-puck-time as the trio seem to have the "liveliest" blades on the team, and as such, they either take passes superbly, or instead, pucks bounce off of the heels of their sticks like nobody's business) received one helluva compliment from Mike Babcock on Sunday, as DetroitRedWings.com's Andrea Nelson noted:

Five veteran players accounted for six of the game’s eight points, as Legwand earned two points (1-1-2), while Niklas Kronwall, Daniel Alfredsson, Darren Helm and Johan Franzen recorded assists.

“Our veteran leadership group, Alfredsson and Legwand, neither of them were on the ice at the end after the timeout, but both guys were in helping out in the timeout,” Babcock said. “Mule’s really stepped up. Kronner has been fantastic all year. And we have a bunch of kids working real hard. We’re trying to find a way to get in the playoffs.”

My "thought" is this: the Red Wings' forward lineup currently consists of Franzen, Legwand and Nyquist on the first line; Tatar, Sheahan and Jurco on the second line; Miller, Glendening and Abdelkader; and the fourth line consists of Andersson, Helm and Alfredsson (who's battling through either a broken pinky and/or ring finger on his right "shooting" hand).

If the Wings get Datsyuk back, and Gord forbid, if the Wings also get Weiss back, who do you sit given the performances of the forwards in the lineup over the past month? I have a hard time picking, and to me, Andersson and Miller get the short straws first--though Miller's penalty-killing skills remain superb.

Going forward, with the Wings essentially stuck with Weiss unless they choose to buy him out "the regular way" or can trade him, with the team keen on retaining Legwand, with Alfredsson at least an even bet to having earned a spot on next year's team, and with Landon Ferraro and Mitchell Callahan out of waiver options, it's not that difficult to suggest that the Wings can do better with their defense than the job the seven gents (Kronwall, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Quincey, Kindl and Lashoff) have done on the blueline...

But looking toward next fall, even assuming that Sheahan and Glendening will remain with the team, and with the betting even that Jurco might find himself Nyquist'd starting next season due to Ferraro and Callahan's statuses, I don't know how the heck the Wings' coaches and management (who will likely bid farewell to Daniel Cleary, Mikael Samuelsson and Todd Bertuzzi, will buy out Jordin Tootoo and simply won't qualify Cory Emmerton as a restricted free agent, making him unrestricted) are going to balance the needs of a team whose "fifth line" at present consists of the injured Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Weiss...

With the needs of a team that seems intent upon not making a move that gets in the way of the possible development of at least one or two of Xavier Ouellet, Ryan Sproul, Mattias Backman, Nick Jensen, Alexey Marchenko and/or the non-waiver-exempt Adam Almquist while attempting to improve the team's defense.

Per Capgeek's roster chart, Wings will have to re-sign Sheahan, Tatar, Glendening and DeKeyser as restricted free agents, and they have to decide whether to bring the Jonas Gustavsson back as an unrestricted free agent, but the free agent class on defense isn't particularly superb, and unless a Daniel Alfredsson falls into the Wings' laps--or somebody is bought out on the cap compliance marketplace--I can't see the team doing anything up front.

That's not a terrible thing to say about a team that lost Valtteri Filppula and Damien Brunner to free agency last summer and Jiri Hudler the year before, and said goodbye to Nicklas Lidstrom, Brad Stuart and Brian Rafalski over the past three seasons.

The Red Wings won't continue to be a premier destination for free agents if they're barely making the playoffs every season, so there's certainly an argument to be made that the team needs to upgrade its blueline, but I think that Sheahan, Glendening, Jurco, Tatar and Nyquist have more than proven that they're ready for prime time, and, "If Darren Helm can stay healthy"...

Are they set? What would you do if you were the coaching staff and GM and this team made the playoffs, even if it lost in the first round? Would you make trades? Would you go after free agents?

Or would you blow up the comments section by stating that you're not the GM and that while you and I can speculate, all we can do is make our guesses and hope that the management makes the proper decisions? wink

 

 

 

In other news, yesterday was Gordie Howe's birthday, and today is Darren McCarty's birthday. McCarty's still on his book tour, and he spoke with WWJ 62's Carol Cain recently. The Free Press posted part of McCarty's conversation with Cain...

“My last fight is my constant battle with alcoholism,” he said. “I have good days and bad days. But I have a great support system.”

He describes himself as a functioning alcoholic.

“I don’t drink like I used to. I could drink a fifth of alcohol and 20 beers. I don’t do that anymore. Today, I have just a few beers.”

McCarty describes his third wife, Sheryl, a neonatal intensive care nurse who lived in Clare whom he met in 2010, as his lifesaver.

“I would have died without her,” he said.

They married and he has a 20-year old stepdaughter and 18-year-old stepson. McCarty also has four children from his first marriage. The couple moved to Clearwater Beach, Fla., 18 months ago and have been in Michigan since December as he promotes his book.

“She’s opened my eyes to a lot of things,” he said of his wife.

As did CBS Detroit:

McCarty, who helped the Red Wings win four Stanley Cups, now lives in Clearwater Beach, Fla. and was in Detroit taping “Michigan Matters.” He talked about his new autobiography, “My Last Fight: the True Story of a Hockey Rock Star.” He appeared along with Dennis Mannion, president of the Detroit Pistons, and Denise Ilitch, CEO of Ilitch Enterprises.

For Mannion, the “two teams equally exemplified the tenacity of Detroit.” Ilitch, whose family owns the Red Wings and Detroit Tigers, said being tough and gritty are simply hallmarks of Detroit’s sports teams. The trio also discussed other issues including gay athletes in pro sports.

While Michael Sam is entering the upcoming NFL draft after announcing he is gay, and Jay Collins now playing for the NBA Brooklyn Nets as the first openly gay player in pro sports, there isn’t a single openly gay NHL player.

“No. It wouldn’t have made a difference,” said McCarty when asked if he ever played with a gay player. “I wouldn’t have had any problem playing with a gay guy.” “I don’t think it is a big deal. I support gay marriage,” McCarty said.

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When asked for comment about the Red Wings’ prospects for the playoffs, McCarty said: “Despite the injuries, they are healthy coming down the stretch. I still believe they will make the playoffs.”

“Thank God they are in the Eastern Conference (this season) and not the Western Conference (which is tougher and they left last year),” he added.

I think we can all agree about that point.

 

 

 

The City of Detroit approved what will be the Red Wings' last lease of Joe Louis Arena on Monday, and while I haven't covered that issue in detail partially because, well, I've been battling severe depression of late, but mostly, I've left Michigan Radio's Jack Lessenberry's take on the issue, the letters to publications like the Detroit News, Deadline Detroit's note that The Guardian's Dominic Rushe spoke with skeptical residents of the Cass Corridor and the Free Press's discussion as to whether the new lease will yield a net loss in parking revenues....

Because we've talked about this stuff before. I've tried to give it fair coverage throughout the process, over my entire tenure with Kukla's Korner and going back to the days when I worked at MLive, both explaining my resignation to the process and trying to give voice to the analyses of the situation.

In the city where I was born, people do a lot of yelling about projects like this, but the yelling accomplishes much less than trying to figure out whether these situations involve any sort of transparency or any sort of oversight that is something other than as corrupt as the City's government has proven itself to be over the course of my lifetime.

There's no way to justify the partial subsidization nor essentially-city ownership of a $450 million rink in a city that's filed for bankruptcy. There's no way to not say that the money could be spent better in a prosperous city or region.

All I know is that the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation and the Downtown Development Authority have picked up where the Ilitches let off in the 90's, delivering the Campus Martiuses, Quicken Loans and Compuware headquarter relocations and economic jump-starting that the City doesn't do very well.

And all I know is that, as WDIV noted, the latest move in the process of building that follow-on rink remains controversial...

The city council has approved a new lease with the Detroit Red Wings for the NHL team's final years at Joe Louis Arena.

The deal approved Monday, 5-4, includes $5.2 million from the team to settle a dispute over cable TV fees. The Red Wings will pay $1 million a year in rent, retroactive to 2010. The lease ends in 2015 although it could be extended.

The Red Wings hope to move into a new arena as early as 2016.

Council member Mary Sheffield voted against the agreement, saying the city deserved to get millions more in the cable TV dispute. Attorneys advising the city say Detroit didn't have a strong case.

As their video indicates:

 

 

 

In prospect news, the Red Wings have one NCAA prospect still active: as Sports Illustrated's Mike McMahon noted, Ben Marshall and the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers advanced to the Frozen Four this past weekend, and Minnesota will battle the University of North Dakota on Thursday, April 10th in Philadelphia, hoping to advance to the NCAA hockey championship game on Saturday, April 12th.

 

 

 

In the power rankings department, ESPN's Scott Burnside...

14. Detroit 35-26-12 Last Week: 14 Injury-ravaged Wings keep impressing with key wins like Saturday's come-from-behind effort in Toronto and then a win over Tampa less than 24 hours later. In lockstep now with Columbus for the two wild-card spots in the East. How good is Gustav Nyquist?

CBS Sports' Brian Stubits...

14 Red Wings [last week 14] Another game, another Gustav Nyquist goal, up to 27 on the season. The Red Wings had a small skid but are back on track and alone in playoff position now, no tie-breaker needed.

And TSN's Scott Cullen penned power rankings lists (oh good, it's Cullen, who demotes the Wings when they win and demotes the Wings when they lose)...

This Week 21 Last Week 21 Detroit Red Wings 35-26-14

Let's not bury those Red Wings' playoff hopes just yet. 4-1-1 in the past six games, with LW Gustav Nyquist scoring seven goals, Detroit has suddenly climbed into playoff position, but there is much work to be done in order to hold it over the final 11 games.

Key Injuries: C Stephen Weiss (groin), LW Henrik Zetterberg (back), C Pavel Datsyuk (knee), D Jonathan Ericsson (finger).

For what it's worth, USA Today's 11-or-12-person panel has the Wings listed as their 15th-best team.

Teams above the Wings in Cullen's rankings? Winnipeg, Nashville, New Jersey, Washington and of course Columbus.

 

 

 

And finally, the hockey season's coming to a close in just about every non-North American Pro league, but the Livingston Daily Press & Argus's Lisa Roose-Church reports that the Red Wings Alumni Association will be skating in Brighton on Saturday, April 5th:

The Brighton Ice Hogs are hosting the second annual Sparky Defibrillator Challenge charity hockey game in the hopes of raising money to purchase automated external defibrillators and provide cardiopulmonary resuscitation training scholarships throughout the community.

The Ice Hogs team will take on players from the Detroit Red Wings Alumni Association. Among the alumni slated to play are Joe Kocur, John Ogrodnick, Kevin Miller, Brent Fedyk, Jiri Fischer and Eddie Mio.

The game begins with a ceremonial puck drop at 2 p.m. Saturday at the Hartland Sports Center, at 2755 Arena Drive, east of U.S. 23 in Hartland Township. At center ice, organizers will give two automated external defibrillator, or AEDs — one each to Special Olympics and the Livingston County Salvation Army.

Tickets for the SparkyDefibrillator Challenge are $10 for general admission. Children younger than 7 are admitted free. All proceeds will go toward purchasing AEDs and/or CPR training in Livingston County.

The event includes raffles for Detroit Tigers tickets, Plymouth Whalers tickets and other miscellaneous items.

For more information, call 517-304-9134 or go to http://www.sparkydefibrillator.org

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Update: THIS IS FROM PIERRE MCGUIRE TALKING TO NHL.COM's Dan Rosen AND IT FRIGHTENS ME AND NO I DO NOT DO APRIL FOOL'S JOKES:

Who does Gustav Nyquist remind you of and why?

"There is a lot of Glenn Anderson in him, in terms of his speed and his ability to finish plays off the rush. There is a little bit of Teemu Selanne in him, in terms of how he can skate and explode, especially when Teemu was younger. I see so many different players in him because he can score from long range, he score from in tight, and he doesn't bail out of difficult situations. I see a lot of different players in him.

"The thing that amazes me the most about him is his desire to want the puck. There are a lot of guys who need the puck to come to them; he goes and gets it, and he's really good at it."

The broadcasters vote for the Jack Adams Award. What factors do you consider for your vote, and who is in the running to lead your ballot?

"I'll tell you one I'm voting for right away. I won't tell you the other two, but I'll give you Patrick Roy. He is one of my votes.

"Ken Hitchcock is going to be in the discussion. Mike Babcock is going to be in the discussion. I think you have to have Lindy Ruff in the discussion. I really think Todd McLellan in San Jose needs to be in the discussion. This has been a phenomenal year for coaches. I think Jon Cooper in Tampa Bay needs to be in the discussion. So this isn't something you just throw up against the wall and see what is going to stick. If you're voting for an award, you have to take it seriously.

"But I don't think there was anybody before the season started that had Colorado making the playoffs and potentially being a home-ice team in the first round. So no matter what, Patrick Roy is getting one of my votes. I have to think about the other two, but Roy is definitely getting one of them."

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If the Wings get Datsyuk back, and Gord forbid, if the Wings also get Weiss back, who do you sit given the performances of the forwards in the lineup over the past month? I have a hard time picking, and to me, Andersson and Miller get the short straws first—though Miller’s penalty-killing skills remain superb.

Tough to say.  Glendening is a net drag on the team offensively, and while a good defensive player is consistently overmatched by good opponents, but 18+ minutes of icetime against Tampa Bat says Babcock isn’t too close to sitting him.  Still, it’s far from clear that Weiss, if healthy, will just walk into playing time.  He’s been ineffective all season (negative point share) and if Datsyuk is back first (or at the same time) we’ll go from too few centers to too many in a heartbeart. 

So really I don’t know if this problem even arises until Zetterberg is ready to return, and even then, only if no one else gets hurt in the interim.  I doubt Babcock has even given much thought—and no serious thought, in any event—to how the lineup would look in that instance.  In the interim, maybe we’ll see Weiss in Alfredsson’s place on the second night of back-to-backs or something.

Posted by captaineclectic on 04/01/14 at 05:55 AM ET

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Thank you George

Posted by bobbo on 04/01/14 at 06:47 AM ET

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the team needs to package some picks/ players/ prospects for established defensive help. thats the top priority, in my mind. the quality of the player determines who they should give up. heard weber might be available?

seems clear legwand was obtained mainly to help them make the playoffs this season. to give him the self he’s probably looking for (term and dollars) would seem to me the same as recent sammy/cleary/tootoo signings—just foolhardy.

honestly, sheahan, tatar, and nyquist should be the only untouchables among the younger guys. glenny and/ or andersson? good players and good guys, but seeya.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 04/01/14 at 07:11 AM ET

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haha. Keep Ferraro in D and stuff Jurco in GR.

Posted by MoreShoot on 04/01/14 at 07:11 AM ET

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glenny and/ or andersson? good players and good guys, but seeya.

I would tend to agree, but neither one is going to fetch much.

Andersson is still a question mark and Glendening is an RFA who probably gets way overpaid (see: Abdelkader, Justin) because the folk in Detroit don’t realize that even very good fourth liners are very, very, very replaceable.

Posted by Garth on 04/01/14 at 08:56 AM ET

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If the Wings get Datsyuk back, and Gord forbid, if the Wings also get Weiss back, who do you sit given the performances of the forwards in the lineup over the past month? I have a hard time picking, and to me, Andersson and Miller get the short straws first-

I think it’s Andersson and Jurco, and it’s not even close.  Detroit needs Miller for the PK, and I think Jurco gets the boot ahead of Glendening for the same reason.

All I know is that the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation and the Downtown Development Authority have picked up where the Ilitches let off in the 90’s, delivering the Campus Martiuses, Quicken Loans and Compuware headquarter relocations and economic jump-starting that the City doesn’t do very well.

It’s not jump-starting, George.  Jump starting implies that the engine runs once you take the cables off.  All the stuff down in Detroit right now is just ‘life supporting’.  There’s no sustained growth in Detroit because there’s no reason to do anything but work there if your job got transferred in.  The schools are horrible so its hard for families to justify living there, the city services are atrocious so its hard for singles to live there safely… we all know the list of shortcomings, the whole region is just a mess.

What the Illtches and Carmonos’ do (smartly) is take the free money in the form of tax abatements to have their buildings in Detroit as opposed to in a suburb, and then double dip with some easy sloganeering about how they are really sticking up for Detroit.

They aren’t at all, of course.  They’re lining their pockets with municipal funds they fleece from absurdly either under-equipped or openly graft-seeking elected officials.

Such is the circle of life.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 04/01/14 at 09:35 AM ET

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glenny and/ or andersson? good players and good guys, but seeya.

I would tend to agree, but neither one is going to fetch much.

Andersson is still a question mark and Glendening is an RFA who probably gets way overpaid (see: Abdelkader, Justin) because the folk in Detroit don’t realize that even very good fourth liners are very, very, very replaceable.

For that logic, why not keep Glenny for less than you pay Abdelkader and trade Abdelkader?

Posted by MoreShoot on 04/01/14 at 09:48 AM ET

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Glendening is an RFA who probably gets way overpaid (see: Abdelkader, Justin) because the folk in Detroit don’t realize that even very good fourth liners are very, very, very replaceable.

Posted by Garth on 04/01/14 at 08:56 AM ET

I wouldn’t put Glendening in the very, very replaceable bucket. True, offensively he’s a fourth liner, but the offense may improve seeing as it’s only his first year and, more importantly, I don’t see a lot of fourth liners in today’s NHL capable of playing against first and second lines on a regular basis. Most teams like to match up first line against first line, second against second, and so on and only occasionally deviate. In fact, it’s usually desirable for the home team to get a scoring line out against a third or fourth line. Also, since Glendening has been playing against top players more often, it makes more sense that he hasn’t been producing offensively.

Posted by EDJ on 04/01/14 at 09:50 AM ET

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  The meltdown that will occur if Jurco is sent back to GR for an unready Ferraro will be epic. I don’t think that Jurco is anywhere near his potential, as I would expect to see him become at least Tatar, if not Nyquist, but I don’t think the solution would be to send him back to GR at this point. But I wouldn’t have thought the soution would have been to sign Cleary last year either.
  Out of the players to disappear if everyone starts getting healthy, I would have to think that Alfredsson gets some time off to heal his hand then it’s Andersson’s turn. Glendenning can be sent down and since he doesn’t bring any offensive upside at all… but as mentioned, he did play 18 minutes the other night. Impressive.

As far as helping the Defense? I would be fine with trading two or even three of the prospects for a true first line defenseman. The problem with detroit’s defensive prospect pool is that they are all within two year, basically, other than Jensen, who is still only 23. I’d like to see them keep at least one of sproul and ouellet, and one of marchenko and backman. I think those are the top four, and it’s two and two. If they keep one of each pair and they both turn out, they have a top pair guy and a second pair guy of the future. The problem, of course being, they need help now. Not in 3-5 years when these guys are ready to step it up.

Posted by teldar on 04/01/14 at 09:52 AM ET

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Also, I don’t think Abdelkader and Glendening are comparable because they see Abdelkader as a net presence, top six backup kind of guy. Not that I agree with that, but Glendening has not shown to be that type of player.

Posted by EDJ on 04/01/14 at 09:52 AM ET

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As for who I think will get sat when Datsyuk and Weiss return, currently Andersson seems the most replaceable, and I think Weiss would sit until someone starts playing terribly. But this could happen by the time they return anyway.

Posted by EDJ on 04/01/14 at 09:54 AM ET

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Scott Cullen’s comment

but there is much work to be done in order to hold it over the final 11 games.

I told him he couldn’t count and he replied not updated since last week, DUH!!

Needless to say but his Power Rankings are a Joke as is he, IMO

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 04/01/14 at 10:27 AM ET

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HiHD, while you’re here, care to discuss Nyquist? You’ve been a bit absent on that front lately… Any additional thoughts? Ready to admit you were dead wrong? smile

Valid point on the Ilitches, et al. The thing about it is: yes, they are doing everything they do out of self-interest. But the thing to keep in mind is that the city is actually better for it. There is a huge amount of development and activity that is occurring in the city since the end of the recession. I’ve begun spending time in the city from a social standpoint and it is very exciting. Certain areas of the city (Midtown, Eastern Market, Corktown, West Village, Woodbridge…) are attracting young professionals at a very fast rate. The rents are skyrocketing because there is too much demand and there are numerous buildings in those neighborhoods that are being purchased and renovated into lofts, condos and apartments. Without viable, safe, and nice buildings and areas in the city, a lot of this doesn’t happen. So yes, while these “city saviors” are lining their own pockets, they’re also contributing to a city that is gaining a lot of positive momentum and it is my prediction that in 10-20 years, the city will be very different than it is today, in a positive way.

Regarding the point about trading some of these prospects - with the logjam that the team will have when everyone is healthy, I really hope they can consolidate these guys into high draft picks, a high-end prospect or two, or roster help on the blue line. You can’t tell me that the team couldn’t pick 2 of the defensemen they like best and dump a few of the others. Or a package of a couple of these guys and a pick for a nice defenseman. Actually, I was thinking something: Dan Boyle would be a good fit. Think about it…he is the type of stopgap player the team could use. A veteran with success (Stanley Cup, playoff experience). Moves the puck well. They could sign him for a couple years and then ease in some of the guys pushing up from Grand Rapids.

Also, there are a glut of guys they have to make decisions on up front, as well. How many centers can they keep? Assuming they remain committed to Weiss and re-sign Legwand and you’ve got Datsyuk - that’s your top 3 centers. Then you’ve got Helm, Sheahan, Glendening and Andersson. Too many NHL-proven centers there. Glendening has the least value in a trade. Sheahan seems too good to play in Grand Rapids again. Andersson is, to me, like a Tomas Kopecky-type player and there is a market for that guy. I think Sheahan and Helm could fetch about the same return.

Basically, the team needs four guys who can play the penalty kill - so ideally, two need to be centers. Now, you can move one of those guys to wing and let’s say the fourth line has two centers on it and then Miller. I think Miller is cemented in his status on the team. The number of possibilities for next year makes my head spin. But the point is: there are a lot of guys who can play in the NHL and not enough roster spots. There’s got to be a way to move some of these pieces for either a premium draft pick, premium prospect (like, maybe a center to replace a certain Swedish gentleman), or a nice player on the blue line. Think about how many teams like Pittsburgh or Toronto that are out there with two lines and a whole lot of nothing for the bottom-six. Teams need good depth.

Posted by VitoLambruski on 04/01/14 at 10:29 AM ET

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For that logic, why not keep Glenny for less than you pay Abdelkader and trade Abdelkader?

I don’t disagree, though I’m not sure Abdelkader would fetch much either, seeing as he’s an overpaid fourth liner in probably everyone but Detroit’s eyes.

Posted by EDJ on 04/01/14 at 09:50 AM ET

I don’t think there’s a fourth liner in the league who irreplaceable.

Every team in the league has an AHL team filled mostly with guys who will never be top-six NHL forwards.

A big reason that Chicago was able to reload after their cup win is that they paid for their best players and didn’t overvalue their bottom players,

Also, I don’t think Abdelkader and Glendening are comparable because they see Abdelkader as a net presence, top six backup kind of guy.

And that’s the problem with the organization vis a vis fourth liners.  Specifically the Red Wings wildly overvalue their fourth liners.

Abdelkader’s a fourth liner, but they see him as a possible top six forward.  There’s literally no reason for them to be paying him $2M a year when they could easily replace him with Sheahan, Glendening, Ferraro, or Callahan for a fraction of the price.

At the same time Glendening is a fouth liner that Babcock has been playing 17-18 minutes a nice recently.  He’s been playing more than their best goal scorer in five of their last eight games.

Posted by Garth on 04/01/14 at 10:40 AM ET

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Good write up G.  Heading into the home stretch for the season.  Keep your health up and maximize your keyboard banging skills. It is appreciated.

FYI….I just checked with Siri and Pav’s is still the Magic Man.

LGRW !!!!!

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 04/01/14 at 11:51 AM ET

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Don’t forget the Michigan- Big 10 connection on the Team, it is clear that the Wings favour Michigan players and I believe that comes from the Ilitch loyalty to Detroit and Michigan. I would tend to believe that prospects from Europe have little chance in replacing the Michigan element on the Team.  It is a wise investment in hometown-state guys with a sprinkling in of foreign talent.  Can’t see that changing.  As well, as proven, if you are competitive and make the playoffs, you can contend for the Cup, last year Detroit had Chicago reeling.

Posted by jhpcarrier97 on 04/01/14 at 12:05 PM ET

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The Wings have made something of a Michigan-born player push of late, but that’s had much more to do with the fact that they’ve been drafting NCAA prospects and/or plucking NCAA free agents than anything else.

This is still a team that believes one’s birth certificate or passport doesn’t determine where or whether someone plays on the team.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/01/14 at 12:08 PM ET

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In terms of player nationalities/state or provincial residences, these things seem to go in cycles.

The Wings have looked hard at NCAA prospect due to the CBA changes that made it easier to hold on to NCAA players for a longer period of time, as well as the fact that undrafted NCAA players become free agents when they graduate; the team’s scoured the QMJHL more regularly recently because they felt it was under-scouted; Jeff Finley’s ascent to Chief Scout has yielded what’s essentially the equivalent of a Hakan Andersson, “Every time we draft players, you get to pick one long shot” pick used on a WHL-based player; we’ve also seen an up-tick in Czech and Slovak players being drafted because the lack of junior hockey leagues push those players to North America; but we’re still seeing the Wings go after Swedes, and the team’s decision to draft Marchenko represented something of a push back into Russia by Vladimir Havluj and Ari Vouri.

I think we’re just watching the team try to find the best players available and the players who want to play in Detroit, and after a long drought, they got lucky with some Michiganders.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/01/14 at 12:23 PM ET

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