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Red Wings morning news: more trade talk, more development camp wrap-ups, etc.

Amongst this morning's crop of Red Wings stories from a very tired and sore blogger:

This is the song that never ends, well, erm, songs (I will post the interview when it's up...more or less...

The thrust of the balance of this morning's entry involves more "outside takes" on the final day of the Wings' summer development camp. MLive's Brendan Savage took note of Grand Rapids Griffins coach Jeff Blashill's end-of-camp remarks...

"I don't want to single out one player or another but the overall work ethic and attention to detail was very good," said Jeff Blashill, the Grand Rapids Griffins head coach who conducted the development camp. "If you don't have that, you're never going to be a star in the NHL or at least help the team win.

"The one thing that I just talked to the players about was if they're going to take one thing away from this camp, take away the level of work ethic and the daily level of attention to detail that the Detroit Red Wings organization demands. From our best players – or at least the guys coming in who were highly heralded – if it's Anthony Mantha, if it's Dylan Larkin, those guys showed the type of work ethic and attention to detail that you have to have and I think that filtered through the rest of the camp."

And this was an interesting wrinkle:

Rather than conducting exit interviews, Blashill said general manager Ken Holland, special assistant to the G.M. Kris Draper and director of player development Jiri Fisher spent the past couple of days meeting with the players.

They told the players what is expected of them and what kind of opportunity they'll be given in September. Blashill said he conducted "informal" interviews with the players throughout the camp.

Blashill also said the decisions that will be made based on the development camp won't be who gets an invitation to the prospects tournament in July – the Red Wings already know who they want to play on their team – but rather which players will skate together when Detroit defends its championship.

You can listen to Blashill's scrum here (and yes, in the pictures that have been posted, I'm the one whose sound recorder is closest to players' faces. I get a little paranoid about getting the best audio, so I go with a 14-to-18-inch rule):

The Traverse City Record-Eagle's James Cook, who's a mensch-and-a-half, took note of the fact that the stars of yesterday's scrimmage, James De Haas and Mike McKee, have paid their own way to Traverse City to retain their NCAA eligibility.

De Haas, who's going into his sophomore season at Clarkson, and McKee, who's going into his sophomore season at Western Michigan University, were incredibly accommodating and refreshingly blunt regarding their situations:

“They can’t pay for anything, so that kind of stinks,” McKee said. “But we come up here, we spend our own money and it’s not a problem for us. It’s a great camp. We love it. We learned a lot.”

Players that are property of NHL teams through the draft can participate in these types of camps, but the team isn’t allowed to pay for travel or hotel rooms or they’d jeopardize the players’ amateur status with the NCAA.

“Hopefully one day we’ll have million-dollar contracts and a couple hundred bucks for a flight will not seem like too much,” DeHaas joked.

De Haas and McKee aren't that physically different--De Haas is a top-heavy 6'3" and 205 pounds, while McKee is just a massive amount of man at 6'5" and at least 250 pounds--but De Haas is a puck-rushing defenseman who isn't particularly physical, and McKee came into camp after a difficult season at Western Michigan, shuffling from forward to defense, and two years ago, all he was was mean.

Watching McKee keep up with De Haas in terms of skating, shooting, passing, playmaking and at least partially skating was COMPLETELY unexpected, and it was just a delight to find that the chewing tobacco-spitting gangly kid that didn't know how to not kill people in a summer development camp has grown up into a level-headed, intelligent, mature and self-deprecatingly-funny young man with far more skill than I could've possibly imagined he'd possess at this time.

The pair won't be back for the prospect tournament as they'll be in class on September 11th, so they told Cook that it was essential to maximize their short summertime window with the team..

“We only get this week,” DeHaas said. “Some of the other guys get the (prospects) tournament and the main camp. For sure, I think it’s huge for the college guys to have a good week here.

And McKee readily admitted that he was going at about 90% in terms of his physical play because a summer development camp =/= kill your teammate camp:

“You’re not out there to run anybody or hurt anybody,” McKee said. “You’re competing hard and guys are battling, but you’re not out there to hurt anybody. So you let up. I wouldn’t say a lot or just a little bit, but you’re just playing.”

Cook continues, and if you want to listen to their double-barreled interview, you can do so here:

It was a pleasure to work alongside Kyle McIlmurray and Michelle, a.k.a. Slapshotgoal, from Winging it in Motown, and ditto for Octopus Thrower's Peter Fish, Hooked on Hockey Magazine's Kevin Sporka, The Hockey Writers' Zachary Landers and Michigan Hockey's Tom Mitsos and Nick Barnowski. They will be posting "emptying the notebook" articles regarding the camp over the next week or two.

Slapshotgoal penned a camp wrap-up article....

As has been the case for the entire camp, McKee and deHaas were the best defensemen on the ice. Anthony Mantha, who is clearly fatigued from the Memorial Cup, was good for most of the camp, but the final scrimmage was his time to shine. It's become clear to me that he's a much better player when he has the puck. He skates better, is more engaged, and dominant with the puck, without it he does a lot of stalking around the outside and waiting to get the puck, he's not a bad player without the puck by any means, but there's a very noticeable difference between when he has the puck and when he doesn't. I still don't think he's going to steal anyone's job in training camp this year, but we may see him a few games in the Winged Wheel. There's a lot of skill and talent there, but he's still young and just turning pro. Jared Coreau was great and is clearly putting the disastrous rookie season behind him.

As I was live tweeting highlights from the game, my phone decided to "assist" me via auto correct, so that I could focus on the game more. Andreas Athanasiou deked a few too many times in the shootout and didn't get the shot of. Josh Howard requested demanded the following tweet be shared so everyone could point and laugh. It may be my most fitting typo so far.

 

(That's pretty much what I thought, too)

Michelle continues at extended length, and she hammers home an excellent point:

We'll have more on specific players coming over the next couple of weeks, but overall the Wings draftees performed well and I've seen growth and improvement in all of them since last camp. The Wings/Griffins/Walleye may also have found a few free agent gems from the camp invitees. This was the best crop of invitees I've seen at camp so far and there were some scouts in the building for the last few days of camp.

I know that some of you were upset that players like Martin Frk, Marek Tvrdon and Mitchell Wheaton weren't invited to the camp or couldn't make it,but the rationale I received from director of player development Jiri Fischer and Blashill was this:

The Wings really felt that they needed to try to find as many "bonus draft picks" as humanly possible, and that involved going the extra mile to invite as many free agents as possible, especially given that the NCAA participants won't be back for the fall development camp (where you can assume that Frk, Tvrdon, Wheaton etc. will all be playing).

I can certainly tell you that of all the invites, 6'5" Merrimack sophomore Hampus Gustafsson looked like someone to keep an eye on as a possible late-blooming power forward, Lake Superior State sophomore and forward Alex Globke scored goals in the scrimmages, Miami of Ohio sophomore and defenseman Trevor Hamilton had his second strong development camp, the undrafted Saginaw Spirit forward Blake Clarke looked like a superbly-talented offensive winger that bafflingly wasn't drafted, and tiny-but-stout Victoria Royals defenseman Joe Hicketts played a much bigger and "heavier" than his 5'8," 186-pound fram.

There's also a heavy emphasis on the camp allowing the Wings and the Griffins and the Walleye to sign players to AHL-only or two-way AHL-ECHL contracts.

The Walleye are no longer doubly-affiliated with the Blackhawks and Red Wings, so coach Derek Lalonde and assistant Dan Watson were involved in all of the on-ice drills, and they'll have room for (I believe) 5 signed Wings skaters and probably both of Jared Coreau and Jake Paterson.

Add in a player or two who's on a, "Prove you're a strong player and we'll give you an AHL and/or ECHL deal, you can shop yourself around if you want, but if you do well, we'll sign you to an NHL deal" contract, and that allows Grand Rapids and Toledo to both bolster their roster while hopefully developing another diamond-in-the-rough for their NHL affiliate.

Hooked on Hockey's Kevin Sporka penned an interview with Dominic Turgeon...

HOHM: “Talk about your feelings coming into this camp for the first time. Nervous, excited?”

Turgeon: “Maybe a little nervous, but also very excited. I’ve heard so many good things about this camp. It’s an unbelievable place to have this camp too (Traverse City), and it’s a really good place to bond with the guys, and get to know the guys in this organization.”

HOHM: “Talk about the pace of these drills that [Griffins head coach Jeff Blashill] runs.”

Turgeon: “It’s a very high-tempo practice, so that’s very good for everyone’s game I feel like. It’s definitely good to have a skate like this, especially since it’s the summer right now. So I feel like it’s really good for my game.”

Which continues...

If you missed it, the NHL on Sirus/XM Radio was kind enough to share Jiri Fischer's interview with Scott Laughlin from yesterday evening...

As I was writing this entry, WDFN posted Fox Sports Detroit's Regner's interview with Matt Sheppard. The gents chatted for almost 13 minutes...


And finally, part 1: I would love to share the Alpena News's interview with Wings goalie coach Jim Bedard, but all but the first paragraph of James Andersen's article lurks behind a paywall...

In an 18-year career as the goalie coach for the Detroit Red Wings, Jim Bedard has coached some of the best goaltenders in the world, but this week he'll pass on his knowledge to a different group of students.

And finally, part 2: I'm not a fan of Ryan Lambert bashing people who are Tweeting about prospect camps on Twitter, or the "Cheerleading for the Red Wings," so proceed to the idiot brigade's editor-in-chief's work at your peril;

And finally, part FYI:

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Hank1974's avatar

No way a player like Ferraro gets Green.
A first and a Jurco at a minimum.

Posted by Hank1974 on 07/09/14 at 11:00 AM ET

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If the Sabres insist on getting prospects like Mantha for Myers, they’re never going to move him.

Of course, they may be just fine with that.

Posted by Jaromir Blogger on 07/09/14 at 11:09 AM ET

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What is the tough situation referred to for Babs?

Posted by squints on 07/09/14 at 11:16 AM ET

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Interestingly Regner also said Edmonton wanted Helm for Petry, and that that was a non-starter.

I love Helm but I don’t consider him to be untouchable.

Posted by captaineclectic on 07/09/14 at 11:17 AM ET

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Mantha for Myers? GFY Washington.

Posted by aerodude on 07/09/14 at 11:35 AM ET

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I mean Buffalo, but the reported prices for Green stink too, GFY to both of em.

Posted by aerodude on 07/09/14 at 11:38 AM ET

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No way a player like Ferraro gets Green.
A first and a Jurco at a minimum.

Posted by Hank1974 on 07/09/14 at 11:00 AM ET

I don’t know about needing Jurco and a 1st for Green.  For a one year contract on a player who has been injury prone and is not the point producer he used to be?  I’d value him at a 1st round pick, but I’m not crazy about him for what it’s worth.

Posted by TreKronor on 07/09/14 at 11:39 AM ET

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Only “untouchables” I see are probably Deykyser, Datsyk, Z, Kronner, Mantha, and Nyquist. HOWEVER, Mantha for anyone less than Shea Weber is a no go.

Posted by Pasha1277 on 07/09/14 at 11:43 AM ET

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LOL.  Ferraro for Green???  Recent actions by the Capitals indicate they are not stupid.  i.e., hiring Barry Trotz to fix a broken defensive mentality, signing Orpek and Niskanen.

They wouldn’t get much in return for dumping $6M salary, which may be enough for them.  I should read all the information before commenting.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 07/09/14 at 11:46 AM ET

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Orpik and Niskanens are ridiculous signings. Not sure id tab Washington as smart. For Green it will take at least a 1st round pick and probably a middle grade prospect.

Posted by topshelf14 from Detroit, MI on 07/09/14 at 11:51 AM ET

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I think you guys are WAY over valuing Green AND Mantha. I would’nt let him go for Green but lets see what he can do in the Show before we consider him for the HOF.

Posted by Bushay on 07/09/14 at 12:06 PM ET

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I would assume getting Green means no Alfie?

Posted by squints on 07/09/14 at 12:13 PM ET

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No one’s considering him for the HOF, at least I’m not… but there’s no reason to trade him before he plays professionally.

He was a nice pick at 20th, let’s see what we’ve got.

Posted by alwaysaurie on 07/09/14 at 12:19 PM ET

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keep what cash you have and ask Alfie if he wants an asst. coaching job. i still think most of this trade crap right now is just to stir the pot.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 07/09/14 at 12:19 PM ET

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I think you guys are WAY over valuing Green AND Mantha. I would’nt let him go for Green but lets see what he can do in the Show before we consider him for the HOF.

Posted by Bushay on 07/09/14 at 12:06 PM ET

I don’t think anyone called him a HOF’er. Just a prospect, with very high potential. Potential being the key word. If he makes it and becomes the kind of scorer he potentially could be, he’d be worth much much more.

Posted by George0211 on 07/09/14 at 12:19 PM ET

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think you guys are WAY over valuing Green AND Mantha. I would’nt let him go for Green but lets see what he can do in the Show before we consider him for the HOF.

When was the last time the Red Wings had a number one prospect, who is 6ft 5” tall and close to 220 lbs who is only 19 years old can skate and is a natural goal scorer.  Find me another one of those guys and I’ll entertain trading Mantha

Posted by bababooey on 07/09/14 at 12:24 PM ET

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The Wings act surprised when other teams don’t want to trade them bona fide NHL players for depth (AHL)  guys like Ferraro.  C’mon Holland you have to trade good players to get good players.  Woulda missed Helm but he’s always hurt and has awful hands….

Posted by Uncle Rico on 07/09/14 at 12:39 PM ET

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I wrote this on a forum:
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That’s Dave Tippett, but it could just as easily be Mike Babcock or Darryl Sutter. It’s the new school, popularized by the Wings teams of ‘08 and ‘09 and, more recently, the Kings. When someone asks Darryl Sutter what it is about his team that makes them so good defensively, and he deadpans that it’s easy when your team is never forced to defend, he’s not joking. And he’s right. Erik Karlsson isn’t a stud in his end, but there’s more to being a defenseman than defending. P.K. Subban isn’t a stud in his end, but there’s more to being a defenseman than defending. Datsyuk isn’t a 50-goal scorer, but there’s more to being an elite 1C than scoring goals.

When our top three was Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, we didn’t spend time in our end and therefore never had to defend. And it wasn’t just that we’d “get the puck out.” The second we regained possession (i.e. pretty much any time we had the puck, anywhere on the ice), we were thinking attack. We moved northward with poise and purpose and precision and propulsive, predatory intent. It wasn’t “We escaped from our zone!” It was “Here comes the boom.” Our breakouts, our rushes, our transition game - everything was about being on the offensive.

That was the foundation of our game. That was the key to our dominance. That was Red Wings hockey. We lost it, we haven’t meaningfully addressed the loss, and now, accordingly, we’re losers. Mike Green, while maybe not ideal, would be a step in the right direction. He’d give us something we don’t have and sorely need. Saying he can’t play defense is missing the point. Saying Kindl can move the puck is missing the point. Saying we have some promising kids who might be top-four material in a few years is missing the point. We have three years left with Datsyuk. What’s keeping us from giving him a legitimate shot at another Cup is the fact that our defense doesn’t generate any offense, doesn’t move the puck especially well at all.
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I’m not too sure how big I’d be willing to go, in terms of a package for Green. But certainly we need a Mike Green. Green can put up points, he can run a power play, he’s a right-handed shot, his trade value is low, he’s on the right side of 30, and he’s in a contract year. At the right price, he’s worth a shot. I get that every time someone mentions Green someone has to say OMG HE CAN’T PLAY DEFENSE, but our blue line’s biggest need isn’t actually “better defending,” it’s moving the puck out of our zone, driving play the other way, generating offense, putting up points, running an effective power play. We have some pretty steady guys in Ericsson, DeKeyser, Marchenko, and Ouellet, and we’re generally better than the Caps on the D side of the puck. We have to move some bodies out anyway.

Posted by Dont Toews Me Bro on 07/09/14 at 12:46 PM ET

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What’s the bad situation for Babs?  I thought he implied once akHs is done they can work on his.  Why’s he in a tough spot?

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/09/14 at 12:49 PM ET

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A first and a Jurco at a minimum.

Maybe I’m naive, but I can’t imagine Washington can expect to get that, or the equivalent, from any team in the league.

What is the tough situation referred to for Babs?

His GM can’t attract a high-end UFA with a blank check, then panics and gives that same blank check to a scrub.

Recent actions by the Capitals indicate they are not stupid.  i.e., hiring Barry Trotz to fix a broken defensive mentality, signing Orpek and Niskanen.

Not sure signing Orpik proves they aren’t stupid…

Posted by Garth on 07/09/14 at 12:58 PM ET

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LOL.  Ferraro for Green???  Recent actions by the Capitals indicate they are not stupid.  i.e., hiring Barry Trotz to fix a broken defensive mentality, signing Orpek and Niskanen.

Maybe Andersson for Green is more realistic.  He’s established, can play center or wing, and he’s responsible.  I bet Trotz would like him.

Posted by MoreShoot on 07/09/14 at 12:59 PM ET

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I don’t overvalue Mantha but the last thing I’d be willing to do is trade him before we see what he can do at a higher level. If that means they can’t get Tyler Myers, so be it.

Ferraro for Green sounds a bit too cheap. But a first plus Jurco sounds too expensive. You have to consider what many GMs talk about. Much of the value of a trade is based on the cash it frees up. If there is little salary going Washington’s way, the cost in players should be low. I’d think Jurco alone or a 2nd round pick alone would be enough to get Green IF Washington was interested. The wouldn’t think the Wings would pay a big price when he’s only under contract for one season.

Posted by evileye on 07/09/14 at 01:01 PM ET

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Regner, Khan, and St. James all doing their thing over the past 48 hours.

Posted by Leo_Racicot on 07/09/14 at 01:06 PM ET

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I don’t think Buffalo has any intention of parting with Myers. Not within the same division anyway. While I do like Myers, he kind of reminds me of Brendan Smith at this point: still learning.

But the Green situation is interesting because other players in similar contract situations have moved and the payments haven’t been that great.

Look at Kesler who went to Anaheim but didn’t fetch more than a late first rounder, two average NHLers and an extra pick. Or Spezza, who like Green is going to be a UFA and has a recent injury history. To quote the Hockey News, Ottawa “was only able to get Alex Chiasson, a second-rounder and no-name prospects for Spezza.”

Green is likely to be the 3rd pair, right hand shot defenseman for the Caps this year. That mean less ice, less PP time, less points for a soon-to-be-UFA. He may ask out on his own. The Caps also appear to be much stronger on the right hand side (Carlson, Niskannen and some kids) than the left (Alzner, Orpik) where they have one young guy (Orlov) and a few spare parts.

They might actually need a left handed defenseman.

Anyway, I think there is a deal there to be made. There is no rush though and Green isn’t a true #1 so there is no reason to sell the farm. But he is a great offensive player and this team could sure use his mobility and offensive awareness.

Posted by RW19 on 07/09/14 at 01:08 PM ET

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They might actually need a left handed defenseman.

Anyway, I think there is a deal there to be made. There is no rush though and Green isn’t a true #1 so there is no reason to sell the farm. But he is a great offensive player and this team could sure use his mobility and offensive awareness.

Posted by RW19 on 07/09/14 at 01:08 PM ET

They already have 8 D-men, they need to get rid of one, whether it is Green or not. And they need a center. I don’t someone before proposed Andersson, doesn’t sound bad, maybe him and a 2nd rounder. Of course Andersson is no more than a 3rd line center at most, so I doubt Caps would take that.

Posted by George0211 on 07/09/14 at 01:12 PM ET

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I don’t get the man-crush everyone seems to have on Green. After two good seasons in 08-10, he’s had great difficulty staying healthy. He’s played in 63% of the Caps regular season games over the past four seasons. He was -16 last season and is -8 over the last four seasons. The Mike Green of 08-10 is long gone and this broken-down (now) overpaid defenseless defenseman is all that’s left.

Someone commented in the earlier thread that Green has had concussion issues. If that, combined with the number of games he’s missed is not a red flag, I don’t know what is.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/09/14 at 02:34 PM ET

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I think all of the talk about trading a 1st round pick (with or without a player added) overlooks the fact that Holland was pretty adamant about not trading away 1st rounders any more. I could see it if it was used as part of a deal to get someone like Myers, but I can’t see them giving it up for Green.

With the change in the way the #1 pick is being awarded starting next year, any team that has even a slight chance of missing the playoffs isn’t going to want to give up their 1st for someone with one year left on his contract. So if that’s a make-or-break condition in any deal for Green, I doubt the Wings will bite.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/09/14 at 02:36 PM ET

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But certainly we need a Mike Green. Green can put up points, he can run a power play, he’s a right-handed shot, his trade value is low, he’s on the right side of 30, and he’s in a contract year. At the right price, he’s worth a shot. I get that every time someone mentions Green someone has to say OMG HE CAN’T PLAY DEFENSE, .
Posted by Dont Toews Me Bro on 07/09/14 at 12:46 PM ET

The problem isn’t that he can’t play defense; he never could. Now, as in the last four seasons, he can’t play offense either. In 08-10 he averaged 75 points. In the last four seasons he averaged under 24 with a max of 38.

I get it, once upon a time he was a good offensive defenseman. Now, he has no offense and his defensive abilities suck as well. Why the hell would anyone want a defenseman that can’t defend and can’t score?

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/09/14 at 02:53 PM ET

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I want to be very clear about the concept of “over-valuing Mantha”: I’ve been attending Red Wings summer camps since 2008, and he is the most talented player I have seen since Brendan Smith, he is more talented than Brendan Smith was, and he is more mature than Brendan Smith is now.

He is a large man, a 6’5,” 209-pound human being who can still put another 10-15 pounds onto his frame at 19, and I am all but willing to bet my moustache that he will develop into a guaranteed 20+-goal-scoring power sniper.

I expect him to need up to a year in the AHL to transition to the game of pro hockey, but just as was the case during the prospect tournament, he slowly but surely ended up taking over the whole damn camp. The only player who displayed the same level of refinement in his game was Alexey Marchenko, and he’s played a full pro season in the KHL and a pro season in the AHL.

You don’t move Mantha for anybody, just as you don’t move the captain-in-the-making that is Nyquist. The pair represent the cornerstones of the future foundation of this team, and especially given the fact that none of the forwards who will be “close” in the next 2-3 years are particularly big or particularly “heavy,” save perhaps the supremely-skilled but not-that-gritty Andreas Athanasiou…

Mantha’s off limits. Nyquist is off limits.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/09/14 at 02:53 PM ET

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Someone commented in the earlier thread that Green has had concussion issues. If that, combined with the number of games he’s missed is not a red flag, I don’t know what is.

Yeah that was me. He’s had 2 well known ones that knocked him out of the lineup for some time (‘11 and ‘14). To be fair one was a puck to the head, but he did admit to concussion-like symptoms much later than when he was even declared fit to play..but not sure they used the same tests back then. I used to live around DC and there was speculation that some of the other injuries the Caps came up with were foggy head syndrome too. I linked to an article on that comment that basically said the Caps GM had to decide if his injuries were bad luck, a result of him putting himself in bad positions to get injured, or the fact his body can’t hold up to the way an NHL player needs to play during his last contract extension. And it turned out he missed significant time during it and those same questions persist now.

Posted by d ca on 07/09/14 at 02:55 PM ET

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And Green’s 2014-2015 salary is $6.25 million!!! At that $$ amount with that production, Green makes the KFQ signing look like a good value.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/09/14 at 02:55 PM ET

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Yeah that was me.
Posted by d ca on 07/09/14 at 02:55 PM ET

Thanks for speaking up. I wanted to give credit where it is due, but I was too lazy to find and read that other thread. wink

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/09/14 at 02:57 PM ET

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Mantha’s off limits. Nyquist is off limits.
Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/09/14 at 02:53 PM ET

+19

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/09/14 at 02:58 PM ET

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Ferraro for green. Im sure they will want to trade for a player we will be cutting loose anyway.

Posted by brians neck on 07/09/14 at 03:22 PM ET

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The only “kid” I would consider sending to WSH for Green is Sheahan.

We do have problems up the middle and trading Sheahan would exacerbate them, but it still might be worth it to improve our transition play, PP, and things like that. 

Although KH has made something of a fool of himself recently, I’m certain he views Mantha and Nyquist (who WILL be DET’s next captain) as untouchable. 

Trading Tatar would be foolish at this point.  He could become a 30-goal-score very soon, and has too much heart and determination for DET to lose. 

The sky could be the limit with Jurco as he gets stronger, smarter, and more familiar with the NHL.

So, Sheahan is the very most DET should pay for Green, and I hope it’s less.

Posted by ianfdunham on 07/09/14 at 03:22 PM ET

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The only “kid” I would consider sending to WSH for Green is Sheahan.

No effin way. Sheahan might already be better than Abby and Andersson. In fact I’m sure he is.  He’s got eyes and hands and strong as an ox.  Get rid of Abby before Sheahan.

 

Posted by MoreShoot on 07/09/14 at 03:25 PM ET

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No effin way. Sheahan might already be better than Abby and Andersson. In fact I’m sure he is.  He’s got eyes and hands and strong as an ox.  Get rid of Abby before Sheahan.

Agreed.  I don’t care for Abby at all.  I’m saying Sheahan is the max I would give WSH for Green.

Posted by ianfdunham on 07/09/14 at 03:27 PM ET

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Abby for Weber and a 1st.

Posted by SK77 on 07/09/14 at 03:31 PM ET

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I wrote this on a forum:

Very interesting tidbit from Tippet.  Taking that into account, here are Green’s advanced stats:

Mike Green Advanced Stats

All four Corsi and GF categories are in the “Green” (accidental pun).

Posted by ianfdunham on 07/09/14 at 03:40 PM ET

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It might not take much to get Green, considering the deals for Orpik and Niskanen; and Carlson is under contract.

Posted by ianfdunham on 07/09/14 at 03:42 PM ET

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