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Red Wings mid-day news: on Lecavalier, prospect and draft talk and a Calder Cup appearance

Updated 6x at 4:08 PM: The news that the Tampa Bay Lightning are buying out Vincent Lecavalier sent shockwaves through the hockey world earlier this morning, and as Paul noted, MLive's Ansar Khan believes that the Wings should pursue him. The Free Press's Helene St. James agrees with Khan's assessment:

Lecavalier has a lot of assets. He's 6-feet-4 and 215 pounds. That alone would make him the biggest forward on the team. He's a center — and the Wings will need a second-line center, because Valtteri Filppula is not coming back. I expect Wings general manager Ken Holland to trade Filppula's rights any day now.

Lecavalier has 383 goals and 491 assists for 874 points in 1,037 NHL games. That's works out to a 0.84 point-per-game production average. That's pretty heady. He has 52 points in 63 career playoff games. The only stat that's glaringly ugly is his career plus-minus rating of minus-117. But in fairness, he's a plus-6 in playoff games.

Imagine Lecavalier in a winged-wheel uniform. First benefit: It would allow the Wings to play Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk together, which is ideal. They ended up playing apart most of last season and the one before that because Filppula didn't get the job done as a second-line center. Based on last season's success of having Justin Abdelkader play with Datsyuk, keep Abdelkader on that line, because he serves the two well as a forechecker and puck retriever, just like Tomas Holmstrom used to do when he was younger.

So now a second line materializes: Lecavalier with Johan Franzen and winger to be named — maybe Gustav Nyquist, maybe Damien Brunner, providing he gets re-signed.

Everything always comes down to price, of course. Even though Lecavalier drew zero interest as a trade option, he'll draw plenty of interest as an unrestricted free agent. I don't see him going for much less than $5 million per season. But that's well within the Wings' price range — they'll gain the $3 million Filppula cost them, and I expect Mikael Samuelsson's $3 million to be gained via a compliance buyout. Defenseman Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.5 million) either will be traded or bought out.

Opportunities like this don't come along very often. When Anaheim re-signed Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry during the season, it wiped the two top forwards off this summer’s list of potential UFAs. Now there's Lecavalier. Hard to think he wouldn't be a great fit in Detroit.

ESPN's Pierre LeBrun believes that Lecavalier will be pursued by Tampa Bay's soon-to-be division rival...

Just my own guessing out of the gate, not based on any sourcing ...

• The Detroit Red Wings need a No. 2 center as talks with Valtteri Filppula are headed nowhere. While Weiss could also be an option, Lecavalier would make a lot of sense.

• The Chicago Blackhawks? Cap space is at a premium and re-signing pending UFA Bryan Bickell is the priority. But man, would Lecavalier ever fit well there, especially since you know Michal Handzus isn’t the long-term answer at No. 2.

The Hawks are buying out Rostislav Olesz and Steve Montador, which will carve out $5.825 million, more than enough to re-sign Bickell, and they may or may not be moving David Bolland...

• What about Lecavalier’s former coach in Tampa, John Tortorella, who is in his first offseason as coach of the Vancouver Canucks?

• The Toronto Maple Leafs have been looking for a legitimate center with size for about a million years.

We will see a lot of teams linked to Lecavalier because, frankly, a lot of teams could use him.

TSN's Bob McKenzie believes that the Wings will pursue him, too...

But it should be noted that ESPN's Craig Custance's list of Lecavalier destinations includes Montreal, Chicago, Toronto, Washington and the New York Rangers, and not Detroit.

I don't know what to think about this one. Other teams may be able to offer Lecavalier more money, and the Wings obviously have other priorities in terms of re-signing Brunner, four RFA's in Gustav Nyquist, Joakim Andersson, Brendan Smith and Jakub Kindl, and they may or may not bring back Daniel Cleary, too, so we'll have to wait things out.

 

 

In the, "This came out of nowhere!" department, the Edmonton Journal's David Staples suggested that the Wings are NOT interested in defenseman Ryan Whitney, despite nonexistent reports to the contrary...

And Pro Hockey Talk's Joe Yerdon noted an...Intriguing...Free agency "odd" from Bovada:

As for playoff hero Bryan Bickell, Bovada sees a very curious destination for him.

Detroit Red Wings: 1/1

Florida Panthers: 3/1

Vancouver Canucks: 13/4

Chicago Blackhawks: 7/2

Speaking of Pro Hockey Talk, Yerdon also noted the following Tweet from Tampa Bay:

 

In confusing and/or speculatory news of a different kind, the Red Wings' summer development camp was supposed to take place from July 9-17 in Traverse City, but the Wings' press release both omitted several participants and stated that the team will be holding the camp from the 10th to the 15th.

The Left Wing Lock's Sarah Lindeau is the PR person, and she suggests that the camp will go a little longer (as the prospects are supposed to have an informal skate on July 9th)...

The schedule for the 2013 Detroit Red Wings Development camp at Centre I.C.E. Arena in Traverse City, MI has been finalized. The camp, which runs July 9th through July 16th, will feature many of the organization’s top prospects as well as the 2013 NHL draft class. With many of the organizations prospects having extended playoff runs, the camp will run on a compressed schedule. Additionally the first ticket sale for the Wings training camp will be held in the middle of development camp on July 13th. More details will be released as they become available and a final roster will be released following the 2013 NHL entry draft.

July 9
Players arrive

July 10
8:30 am – 11:00 am  Team Lidstrom physicals

9:30 am – 11:00 am  Team Yzerman physicals

12:00 pm – 12:50 pm  Team Lidstrom practice  (Admission Free)

1:00 pm – 1:50 pm Team Yzerman practice

July 11
8:00 am – 9:50 am   Team Lidstrom Practice (Admission $5)

8:00 am – 9:45 am Team Yzerman off-ice workouts

2:00 pm – 3:45 pm Team Lidstrom off-ice workouts

2:00 pm – 3:50 pm Team Yzerman practice

July 12
5:00 pm intra-squad scrimmage (Admission $5)

July 13
8:30 am   Training Camp Ticket Sale (no on-ice activities)

July 14
8:00 am – 9:45 am Team Lidstrom off-ice workout  (Admission $5)

8:00 am – 9:50 am Team Yzerman practice

2:00 pm – 3:50 Team Lidstrom practice

2:00 pm – 3:45 pm Team Yzerman off-ice workout

July 15
8:30 am – 10:15 am Team Lidstrom practice (Admission $5)

8:30 am – 9:45 am Team Yzerman off-ice workout

10:30 am – 12:15 pm Team Yzerman practice

10:45 am – 12:00 pm Team Lidstrom off-ice practice

July 16
players depart

The players are supposed to scrimmage on the 15th or 16th, too, but that's changed...So the Wings' release may or may not be correct!

Lindeneau also offered some important Tweets regarding the make-up of this summer's roster:

For the record, here's the preliminary roster, per Michigan Hockey's Michael Caples. It omits several locks in players like--as Lindenau noted--Jared Coreau and Mike McKee:

Player  Position  2012-13 Team  Acquired

Darren Helm  F  Detroit (NHL)  2005 5th Rd. (132nd overall)

Luke Glendening  F  Grand Rapids (AHL)  Signed as a free agent

Andreas Athanasiou  F  Barrie (OHL)  2012 4th Rd. (110th overall)

Rasmus Bodin  F  HV71 Jr. (SJEL)  2012 7th Rd. (200th overall)

Philippe Hudon  F  Victoriaville (QMJHL)  2011 5th Rd. (145th overall)

Martin Frk  F  Halifax (QMJHL)  2012 2nd Rd. (49th overall)

Calle Jarnkrok  F  Brynas IF (SEL)  2010 2nd Rd. (51st overall)

Marek Tvrdon  F  Vancouver (WHL)  2011 4th Rd. (115th overall)

Mikhail Plotnikov  F  Indiana (USHL)  Camp Invite

Michael Babcock  F  Catholic Central (MHSAA)  Camp Invite

Dean Chelios  F  Michigan State (CCHA)  Camp Invite

Xavier Ouellet  D  Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL)  2011 2nd Rd. (48th overall)

Ryan Sproul  D  Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)  2011 2nd Rd. (55th overall)

Mattias Backman  D  Linkoping HC (SEL)  2011 5th Rd. (146th overall)

James de Haas  D  Penticton (BCHL)  2012 6th Rd. (170th overall)

Nick Jensen  D  St. Cloud State (WCHA)  2009 5th Rd. (150th overall)

Ben Marshall  D  Minnesota (WCHA)  2010 7th Rd. (201st overall)

Alexei Marchenko  D  CSKA Moscow (KHL)  2011 7th Rd. (205th overall)

Richard Nedomlel  D  Swift Current (WHL)  2011 6th Rd. (175th overall)

Ildar Telyakov  D  HC VMF (VHL)  Camp Invite

Jake Paterson  G  Saginaw (OHL)  2012 3rd Rd. (80th overall)

 

 

In terms of the Wings' draft plans (the draft takes place on Sunday, June 30th, at 2:30 PM, and all seven rounds will take place on that day), MLive's Khan spoke to Wings director of amateur scouting Joe McDonnell, who will be calling the shots at the draft, about the team's take on who's available when the Wings draft 18th overall in the 1st round, 48th overall in the 2nd round and then 79th, 109th, 139th, 169th and 199th:

“We're excited,'' McDonnell said. “The draft is strong, in the first round and into the second round. There will be guys we like even in the seventh round. But the high-end part of the draft is good. At 18, we'll get a quality player.''

This will be McDonnell's 19th draft with the Red Wings, his first sitting at the head of the table, behind the microphone, making the final decision on each selection at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. He replaces former assistant general manager Jim Nill in that capacity. Nill was hired as GM of the Dallas Stars on April 29. The Red Wings, under Nill, shifted their drafting philosophy in recent years, targeting bigger players. McDonnell also puts a premium on size.

“It's just the way the game has evolved; it's a big man's game,'' McDonnell said. “I'm not saying there's no room for smaller guys, but if you can get a big, skilled guy, you go that route. We'll still take small guys if we have to, but we're looking to get bigger.''

The Red Wings' top picks in the past three drafts were decent-sized forwards – Martin Frk (2012), Tomas Jurco (2011) and Riley Sheahan (2010). They have used their first selection on a forward four years in a row, and McDonnell hopes to make it five.

That's because their system is stocked with promising defensemen, led by Ryan Sproul, the CHL defenseman of the year from Sault Ste. Marie, and Xavier Ouellet, a first-team All-Star in the Quebec League with Blainville-Boisbriand. They also have highly regarded Swede Mattias Backman, Russian Alexei Marchenko and American Nick Jensen.

“We'd really like to get a forward, unless there's a defenseman that's too good to pass up,'' he said. “If we feel there's two players (at different positions) that are even we'll lean toward the forward. … If we can add a little size up front, it would be beneficial.''

Khan continues and discusses several of the Wings' possible targets, states that the Wings won't use any of their first, second or third-round picks on a goaltender, and he concludes with the following:

Free agency opens on July 5. It's a relatively weak free-agent class because more teams are locking up their own players to long-term contracts. It further emphasizes the need to build through the draft.

“In the salary-cap era, it's everything,'' McDonnell said. “If you don't draft well and develop your players you don't have any hope. If you're going to be a good organization you better draft.''

 

 

In news regarding drafts past, two Red Wings made the Canadian Press's list of "draft bargains"...

3. Henrik Zetterberg, seventh round (No. 210) in 1999 to Red Wings

Detroit general manager Ken Holland was able to bridge the gap from the Red Wings’ late-1990s Cup teams to the group that won in 2008 with draft picks like Zetterberg. In 2002, Holland took Valtteri Filppula in the third round and Jonathan Ericsson in the ninth round, and he picked Darren Helm in the fifth round three years later. But Zetterberg was even more important to the retooling. Zetterberg won the Conn Smythe in 2008 and has 263 goals and 409 assists in 714 regular-season games, all with the Red Wings.

...

1. Pavel Datsyuk, sixth round (No. 171) in 1998 to Red Wings

Another Holland special, Datsyuk is regarded by some players as the best in a league that has Sidney Crosby, Steven Stamkos, Alex Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin. A rookie when the Red Wings won in 2001-02, Datsyuk was more than a point-a-game player on the 2008 Cup team. In 11 seasons, he has 255 goals, 512 assists, three Selke Trophies, four Lady Byng Trophies and three all-star appearances. He also just signed a three-year extension that could keep him in Detroit through 2016-17.

And NHL.com's named the Tampa Bay Lightning's GM their best #4 draft pick ever, as noted by Adam Kimelman:

The Detroit Red Wings had the fourth pick at the 1983 NHL Draft and targeted local prospect Pat LaFontaine. But when LaFontaine was taken by the New York Islanders with the third pick, the Red Wings had to settle for their second choice.

That player was a talented but smallish center who worked out OK. Detroit might not have gotten the player it wanted, but by the time Steve Yzerman retired 23 years later, the Red Wings wouldn't have changed a thing about how that day went.

NHL.com's Dream Draft panel has named Yzerman as the best No. 4 first-round pick.

Yzerman had 42 goals and 91 points in 56 games with the Peterborough Petes of the Ontario Hockey League in his draft year, and carried that scoring touch into the NHL as a rookie in 1983-84. He had 39 goals, a team-best 87 points, and became the first 18-year-old to play in an NHL All-Star Game since the format was adopted in 1969. He finished second to Buffalo Sabres goaltender Tom Barrasso in voting for the Calder Trophy as the League's top rookie.

Yzerman was named Red Wings' captain at the start of the 1986-87 season; at 21, he was the youngest to hold the role in team history. He responded with his first 90-point season, and the following season he totaled 50 goals and 102 points and helped the team win its first division title since 1965.

They won it again the next season when Yzerman finished third in the League with career-bests of 65 goals and 155 points, each a single-season franchise mark. He also won the Lester B. Pearson Award as the League's best player as voted by the players, and was a finalist for the Hart Trophy. He had 62 goals and 127 points in 1989-90, but the Red Wings finished last in the division and missed the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Yzerman continued to pile up offensive numbers in the regular season without much playoff success. That changed when Scotty Bowman arrived as Red Wings coach for the 1993-94 season. Bowman demanded more defensive accountability from Yzerman, and the result was better team play. His streak of six straight seasons of 40 goals and 100 points was snapped -- but a run of three straight seasons atop the Western Conference standings began.

Included was a trip to the 1995 Stanley Cup Final, the Red Wings' first appearance in the championship round since 1966. In 1997, the Red Wings went one step further, and Yzerman had 13 points in 20 playoff games -- including goals in each of the first three games of the Final against the Philadelphia Flyers -- to help Detroit win its first Cup in 42 years.

The story continues...

 

 

In the player appearance category, the Grand Rapids Griffins have some plans for the Calder Cup this afternoon, as noted by MLive...

The West Michigan Whitecaps will honor the Grand Rapids Griffins’ recent Calder Cup championship in a pre-game ceremony on Thursday, June 27.

Griffins head coach Jeff Blashill, East Grand Rapids native and Griffins forward Luke Glendening, and radio broadcaster Bob Kaser will be in attendance at the Whitecaps game, with the Calder Cup in tow. Blashill and Glendening will each throw out first pitches before the game and sign autographs for fans, who will also be able to get pictures taken with the Cup.

Thursday’s game against the Dayton Dragons begins at 7 p.m. (gates open at 6 p.m.).

Tickets can be purchased by calling the Whitecaps front office at 616-784-4131, by visiting http://www.whitecapsbaseball.com or in, person at the Fifth Third Ballpark ticket office.

And WOOD TV8:

The West Michigan Whitecaps will honor the Grand Rapids Griffins' recent Calder Cup championship Thursday evening.

Head Coach Jeff Blashill, Griffins forward Luke Glendening, and radio broadcaster, Bob Kaser will bring the Calder Cup to the Whitecaps game to honor their win.

Blashill and Glendening will each throw out first pitches before the game and sign autographs for fans who will also be able to get pictures taken with the Cup.

 

 

In "local hockey" news, the Plymouth Whalers, Windsor Spitfires and Saginaw Spirit have released their 2013-2014 season schedules...

 


And finally, if you find yourself in Yekaterinburg, Russia in mid-July...

 

 

Update: SPIFFY!

 

 

Update #2: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan's busy today, but he weighed in on Lecavalier...

And then he filed a report:

Lecavalier, 33, will receive a staggering $32.67 million in the compliance buyout, giving Tampa Bay much more financial flexibility (Lecavalier had a $7.727 million cap hit through 2019-20).

Steve Yzerman, the Lightning's general manager and former Red Wings great, said it was a difficult decision for the organization.

"Vinny has been a significant reason for many of our past successes, including the 2004 Stanley Cup, and his contributions to the community are immeasurable," Yzerman said in a statement. "The Lightning organization is indebted to Vinny; we thank him for all he has done here and we wish him well as he moves forward. After much internal deliberation, we believe this will prove to be a pivotal move for us as we strive to achieve our long term goal of competing at the highest level, year-in, year-out. The economics and structure of the CBA are necessitating this decision and we at the Lightning are excited at the newly created opportunities this presents to us."

Lecavalier played in 39 games last season, scoring 32 points (10 goals, 22 assists).

At 6-foot-4 and 215 pounds Lecavalier has the size and offensive ability (12 consecutive 20 goal seasons before this last season) the Red Wings would covet — especially with the expected free agent loss of Valtteri Filppula.

But Lecavalier will have plenty of interested teams in the free agent market. Former Tampa Bay GM Jay Feaster would relish Lecavalier in Calgary, as would Vancouver and new coach John Tortorella, with whom Lecavalier won a Stanley Cup in Tampa Bay in 2003.

Lecavalier's hometown Montreal Canadiens have also been long mentioned as a possible destination for the former Quebec junior hockey star.

 

As an FYI...

 

And the Detroit Free Press's bracketed "best Michigan sports nickname" contest continues:

And then there were four.

Magic was the only No. 1 seed that didn't make it to the semifinals, getting edged by Cinderella entrant Sweet Lou in a close Elite Eight matchup.

So Sweet Lou joins The Captain, Megatron and Mr. Hockey in the semis, which will end at 2 p.m. Friday.

 

 

Update #3: Take this for what you will:

 

Update #4: From the Free Press's George Sipple...

The Ontario Hockey League announced its regular-season schedule for 2013-2014 today, and part of that included the games times for the OHL’s outdoor doubleheader Dec. 29 at Comerica Park in Detroit. It’s part of the Hockeytown Winter Festival, connected to the Winter Classic in Ann Arbor.

The Saginaw Spirit will face the Windsor Spitfires at 1:30 p.m. The Plymouth Whalers will face the London Knights, the defending Robertson Cup champions, at 5 p.m..

The OHL regular-season begins Sept. 19. The Spirit opens at Barrie at 7:30 p.m.

The Whalers will open the season at 7:30 Sept. 20 by visiting London. The Whalers’ home opener will be Sept. 21 against the Erie Otters.

The Whalers end the regular season by hosting the Windsor Spitfires on March 15.

And St. James updated her column with Lecavalier's comments:

Speaking during an afternoon conference call, Lecavalier said he's interested in Detroit. "If you just think about the Detroit Red Wings, it's actually a team I grew up idolizing. Them and Montreal were my favorite teams. Ironically, Steve Yzerman was my favorite hockey player."

Asked whether there'd be worse fates than being teammates with Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg, Lecavalier laughed. "Definitely, those guys, they're one of the best duos in the league. And I mean, Detroit, they've made the playoffs the last 20 years. They're a great team. They're a great organization.

"It'd definitely be a place that I think I would consider, for sure."


Update #5: Via RedWingsFeed, MLive's Ansar Khan also took note of Lecavalier's comments:

“It's actually a team I grew up idolizing,'' Lecavalier said during a conference call. “Them and Montreal were my favorite teams. Steve Yzerman (former Red Wings captain) was my favorite player.''

Yzerman also is the general manager of the Tampa Bay Lightning. He informed Lecavalier on Thursday morning that the club is buying him out of the final seven years of his contract.

Lecavalier, 33, will be free to sign with any team, except the Lightning, on July 5.

His hometown Canadiens certainly will get serious consideration. But, the Red Wings will, too. Detroit will be seeking a second-line center if, as expected, Valtteri Filppula leaves as a free agent.

Lecavalier talked about the appeal of playing on a team with stars Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg.

“They're probably one of the best duos in the league,'' Lecavalier said. “They made the playoffs the last (22) years. It's a great team, a great organization. It's definitely a place I would consider.''

He added, “I haven't made a list yet. I'm really open to anything.''

Update #6: Via Paul, NHL.com's Adam Kimelman looked at each and every one of the NHL's 30 teams' "draft needs":

Detroit Red Wings: The Red Wings have one pick in each round, starting with No. 18 in the first round. They had an influx of young forwards step up this season, including Gustav Nyquist and Joakim Andersson, with a few others on the way.

Defensive depth could be an area of interest, but the Wings could settle for what they believe is the best player available, regardless of position.

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SYF's avatar

But it should be noted that ESPN’s Craig Custance’s list of Lecavalier destinations includes Montreal, Chicago, Toronto, Washington and the New York Rangers, and not Detroit.

Balls, Holland.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 06/27/13 at 12:50 PM ET

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Filppula for Vinny, straight up.

Do it, Stevey!

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/27/13 at 01:05 PM ET

perfection's avatar

re. Detroit and Montreal - everyone seems to be assuming Lecavalier would actually be willing to sign with one of Tampa’s division rivals. I have a hard time believing that seeing how much time he spent with that team. Seems like he’d likely head West or at the least sign in the other eastern division.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 06/27/13 at 01:13 PM ET

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That was a long blog post:)
Give me an L for: Lightning, Lecavalier, Leaving & Lots of Loot$$

The best was saved for last with Jordin Tootoo - and I snapped the picture of him pitching:)
It is on my Twitter: @RalphH_VO

Posted by HasTheVoice.com on 06/27/13 at 01:14 PM ET

Wings_in_NYC's avatar

No way in Hades Vinny signs in the D.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 06/27/13 at 01:26 PM ET

Vladimir16's avatar

Luke Glendening F Grand Rapids (AHL)  Signed as a free agent

Soooo… the Wings signed Glendening?

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 06/27/13 at 01:43 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

The Wings are in flux right now getting ready for the draft and KH is at the Board of Governors meetings. I’m sure they’ll announce his deal on or around July 5th, when a roster spot officially opens up for him.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 06/27/13 at 01:46 PM ET

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I expect Wings general manager Ken Holland to trade Filppula’s rights any day now.

Yeah, right.

Posted by godblender on 06/27/13 at 02:12 PM ET

BC's avatar

No way in Hades Vinny signs in the D.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 06/27/13 at 02:26 PM ET


You may be correct, but it would be the biggest signing since Hossa’s cup-of-coffee. 

The Ingalls Sisters were not that big of a deal for me.  Suter, maybe but not so much Half Pint.

Posted by BC on 06/27/13 at 02:19 PM ET

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Don’t have a whole lot of time to read, so if I missed it in the text, my apologies, but since Lecavalier doesn’t officially belong to anyone right now, when can he start negotiating with other teams? Immediately? Or does he have to wait for free agency?

Posted by Diggler from Marquette, MI on 06/27/13 at 02:54 PM ET

SYF's avatar

If he’s been bought out, I would presume he’s automatically UFA.  He can sign anyone with anyone right now; he doesn’t need to wait till July 5th.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 06/27/13 at 03:01 PM ET

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I don’t see DET getting a single thing in return for Val.  Nothing.  He’ll just walk as a FA.


EDM writers are ALWAYS denying reports that they themselves fabricated.  Otherwise they’d have to admit EDM is completely forgotten every offseason and that the Oilers are never in the running for anything except a #1 overall each June.  NOBODY, and I mean nobody, has ever linked DET and Whitney save for his name being tossed out a couple times on message boards like here.  Whitney’s name was kicked around for Norris nomination this year at times though I guess….  he certainly couldn’t be worse than Quincey, right?


RE: Lecavalier pursuing a Cup… remember that he did win one already.  I don’t know that the drive for another is as great as if he’d never won one.  I’m betting money and location will be the man criteria.  But mostly money.

Posted by Primis on 06/27/13 at 03:01 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

Technically speaking, Lecavalier can’t negotiate with teams until July 1st, I believe, when the “wining and dining” period begins. Unofficially, he’ll probably be allowed to start talking with teams today or tomorrow by the Lightning as teams can give individual players and their agents the right to speak to other teams if the team knows the player won’t return.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 06/27/13 at 03:02 PM ET

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Vinny Lecavelier is a well known player, well known good player.  He’s accomplished a lot.  I’m sure he’ll be remembered by Tampa Bay faithful.

But if he comes to Michigan, to play with THIS team… everyone will remember him 60 years from now.  If he’s willing to work as hard as he says he is, he can add some hardware to the mancave.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 06/27/13 at 03:09 PM ET

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Update #6: Via Paul, NHL.com’s Adam Kimelman looked at each and every one of the NHL’s 30 teams’ “draft needs”:

Detroit Red Wings: The Red Wings have one pick in each round, starting with No. 18 in the first round. They had an influx of young forwards step up this season, including Gustav Nyquist and Joakim Andersson, with a few others on the way.

Defensive depth could be an area of interest, but the Wings could settle for what they believe is the best player available, regardless of position.

It would not surprise me at all if Holland negotiates for MTL’s 34th and 36th picks in the second round for the Wings 18th pick in the first round…and lands that mutherfucher.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 06/27/13 at 03:21 PM ET

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RE: Lecavalier pursuing a Cup… remember that he did win one already.  I don’t know that the drive for another is as great as if he’d never won one.  I’m betting money and location will be the man criteria.  But mostly money.

I don’t know, he’s got 32 million reasons not to be worried about money.  I’m guessing that, while he’s not going to be sigining anywhere for a million or two, winning will be more important.

In fact, he’s probably going to have to choose between a number of teams offering very similar money, I would think.

Posted by Garth on 06/27/13 at 03:32 PM ET

DocF's avatar

Can anyone imagine the terror in the hearts of opposing defensemen at the thought of facing a line of Zetterberg, Datsuyk, and LeCavalier?  I think Babcock has enough of a sense of humor to do that to Boston for a shift or two.

Seriously, if Vinny really wants a serious run for the Stanley Cup, he will join the Red Wings and at a reasonable price (4.5 to 5 million).  He has several very good years left and he is a wonderful match for the Wings.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 06/27/13 at 03:50 PM ET

Ajax19's avatar

Seriously, if Vinny really wants a serious run for the Stanley Cup, he will join the Red Wings and at a reasonable price (4.5 to 5 million).  He has several very good years left and he is a wonderful match for the Wings.
Doc
Posted by DocF on 06/27/13 at 04:50 PM ET

Sadly, if Vinny really wants a serious run for the Stanley Cup, he would likely just join the Blackhawks at such a reasonable price.  The Blackhawks have a need for a second line center.  They have cleared some cap space with some buyouts.  If they ship Bolland off, that’s even more space.

Posted by Ajax19 on 06/27/13 at 04:30 PM ET

perfection's avatar

and here’s a situation where the Red Wings incredibly over-achieving play this season could make all the difference.

i think there was a question before this past season whether the Wings would continue to be a contender. Not only did they prove they could contend, but they really SHOULD have closed out the Hawks in game 6 and could have still won game 7 in overtime. The difference between the two teams doesn’t appear to be nearly is large as it seemed. Not only that, but after also winning the Calder Cup, it can be argued that the team’s future is brighter than ever.

you have to wonder if Vinny would ever consider the Wings if they didn’t make the playoffs this year? Now he might easily see the team as being one player (ie. himself) away from winning it all.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 06/27/13 at 04:58 PM ET

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I’m liking the idea more and more. I’d hope the financial terms aren’t too terrible…but I think we would all agree the Wings needed to add 1 decent sized 20 goal scorer this off-season, and Lecavalier fits that description more than the guys we expected to be available.

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 06/27/13 at 06:34 PM ET

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Just as I asked a couple of days ago, there is the opportunity.


Vincent Lecavalier grew up ‘idolizing’ Red Wings, says they’re definitely a team he would consider


How much do you figure, at least $6M I would say.  Do the Wings have to outbid Montreal, or do the Wings appear as more of a contender to him than the Canadiens?

“I want to win.”

Come to Detroit. 

But remember, last summer we heard how much that guy from NJ admired and would love to play with Datsyuk, and how important was that in the end?  He chose to go home and play with his sister instead.

I think he’d be a great fit.  There may be more buyout splashes, but I really like this one.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 06/27/13 at 06:38 PM ET

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How much do you figure, at least $6M I would say.  Do the Wings have to outbid Montreal, or do the Wings appear as more of a contender to him than the Canadiens?

If they do, and I’m not saying I would mind, does this mean this will be their only free agent foray? Is Bickell too much then to afford?

Posted by Bugsy on 06/27/13 at 09:02 PM ET

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If they do, and I’m not saying I would mind, does this mean this will be their only free agent foray? Is Bickell too much then to afford?

Posted by Bugsy on 06/27/13 at 10:02 PM ET

Yeah I bet this would take them out of the bidding for Bickell.  Even with Vinny getting $32M from TB over $14 years, I bet it will still take $6M to sign him. 

I thought Bickell would be a good player to go after but so will everyone else and he will likely be substantially overpaid, given this playoffs might be a flash in the pan for him.

Could be interesting, depending who else may get bought out and suddenly become available.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 06/27/13 at 09:08 PM ET

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Well, character won’t be the question w/Vinny:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/25744/lecavalier-will-be-missed-in-tampa-area

and as Pierre LeBrun said:
“... I’d be shocked if the Lecavalier camp, led by agent Kent Hughes, didn’t get interest from at least a dozen teams. At the right price, he’s a stud, and this isn’t a great year for free-agent centers. And you still can’t teach 6-foot-4 ...”

Posted by Bugsy on 06/27/13 at 09:25 PM ET

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Posted by Bugsy on 06/27/13 at 10:25 PM ET

Thanks.
Great article.  A great fit for the Wings, or pretty much any other team and community.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 06/27/13 at 09:47 PM ET

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Only 7 buyouts so far.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=675349&navid=DL|NHL|home

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 06/27/13 at 10:41 PM ET

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Only 7 buyouts so far.

And that’s including the two from last off-season.

I’d expect that there is going to be a flood of buyouts come Monday or Tuesday.

Posted by Garth on 06/28/13 at 10:39 AM ET

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Does anybody know if Mikhail Plotnikov and Ildar Telyakov are Larionov clients?

Also saw the that Telyakov is 6’9” 216 pounds.

Posted by Drifter of Dreams on 06/28/13 at 11:01 AM ET

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