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Red Wings-Maple Leafs pre-season game thread, take 2: kind-of-sort-of bootleg

Both the Red Wings and the Maple Leafs are dressing relatively prospect-laden lineups when the teams battle in Toronto this evening (7 PM, CBC/NHL Network U.S.), with Petr Mrazek and Jared Coreau slated to split duties (per MLive's Ansar Khan) opposite James Reimer. The Leafs hope to gain a measure of revenge for their 5-2 loss to the Wings on Friday night.

The NHL Network claims that it's going to air tonight's game, but we have yet to find out whether they'll "flip the switch":

Th CBC's gearing up for its regular season "dress rehearsal"...

Randy Carlyle was already in regular-season form regarding having to dress a "short" lineup while speaking with the Toronto Sun's Rob Longley...

It wouldn’t have exactly been the Leafs lineup Hockey Night In Canada was looking for on Saturday night, but you could hardly blame Randy Carlyle for loading up on Marlies callups for the final of eight pre-season contests.

With back-to-back road games to start the season Tuesday in Montreal and Wednesday and Philadelphia, Carlyle opted for rest for the bulk of his opening night lineup for the back end of the home-and-home with the Red Wings.

“We’ve been kind of handed a tough one if you look at our schedule,” Carlyle told reporters following Saturday’s morning skate at the Air Canada Centre. “It’s not something you would say would be ideal.”

Specifically, Carlyle was referring to the Leafs and Red Wings double dip on Friday and Saturday followed by the real games in short order. To make matters worse, both are on the road. And consider the Flyers who concluded their pre-season schedule on Friday and now will wait for the Leafs in the home opener on Wednesday night.

“We open the season back-to-back and we open two buildings,” Carlyle said. “I don’t think that’s ideal. I think that puts us at somewhat of a competitive disadvantage.”

It will be interesting to see if new MLSE president Tim Leiweke investigates that disadvantage going forward. Is the revenue from one additional pre-season game worth putting the team in such a challenging situation?”

“The two that are going to be the most important are Tuesday and Wednesday,” Carlyle said. “Those are factors in the decision-making process of who is going to play and who you are not going to play.”

And MLive's Ansar Khan noted that the Wings' "short" lineup ain't half bad...

The Detroit Red Wings will wrap up the preseason tonight in Toronto (7 p.m., CBC, NHL Network) with a lineup dominated by Grand Rapids Griffins, sprinkled in with a few NHL players.

Detroit's lineup will include Griffins forwards Riley Sheahan, Tomas Jurco, Teemu Pulkkinen, Calle Jarnkrok, Luke Glendening, Mitch Callahan and Jeff Hoggan as well as defensemen Xavier Ouellet, Ryan Sproul and Nathan Paetsch.

NHL players in the lineup tonight include forwards Drew Miller, Cory Emmerton, Gustav Nyquist and Tomas Tatar.

Petr Mrazek will start in goal and will play either 30 or 40 minutes. Jared Coreau will finish the game, coach Mike Babcock said.

The Red Wings (3-4-0) are coming off a 5-2 win over the Maple Leafs (4-2-1) on Friday, a game in which Detroit dressed most of its regular lineup and scored three times on the power play.

“I'd like to see the power play be dangerous; last night with (Daniel) Alfredsson on it, that was really important,'' Babcock said. “Other than that we've worked on trying to get better at moving the puck. We still make some poor decisions on the back end with reads and that comes with experience, that's why you play those kids so much in exhibition. Like any year we're a work in progress. You're concerned, are you going to be good enough? We feel the same way every year at this time.''

You can follow along with the game summary, event summary and roster report, I know that not all of you have access to the CBC and/or the NHL Network, so we're going to do what we did last night: encourage illegal activity.

As always, please BE CAREFUL when following streaming links. They often have pop-ups, adware and spyware, and if they encourage you to "upgrade" your software, DO NOT download anything.

If you have the VLC Media Player installed on your computer (it's actually pretty spiffy), you can watch the game at OurLeafs, First Row Sports should have a stream, as should LiveTV.ru and Wiziwig. CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK, but hey, if you've gotta do what you gotta do, it's understandable.

In my opinion, the NHL should ensure that all Center Ice and GameCenter Live subscribers--and I should note that I am in favor of using legal means to watch games, and subscribe to GCL--have access to the NHL Network as part of their subscription. That would alleviate a significant amount of having to find "bootleg" ways to watch games, but the league seems to prefer shutting some fans out to "grow" the NHL Network (even though many cable companies and satellite providers simply don't carry it) instead of encourating fans to subscribe to their viewing packages. :/

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Per TSN’s Jonas Siegel:

Projected Lines vs. DET: Raymond-Kadri-Abbott. D’Amigo-Smith-Bodie. Broll-Colborne-Leivo. Devane-McKegg-Orr.
Projected D: Rielly-Liles. MacWilliam-Franson. Percy-Holzer. Reimer starts.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 06:42 PM ET

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From Ken Kal:

Greetings from Toronto Smith Kindl Lashoff Paetsch Quincey Sproul are Wings defensemen tonight…..Mrazek starting Coreau backup
Nyquist, Sheahan, Miller, Tatar, Emmerton, Jurco, Samuelsson, Glendening, Pulkkinen, Callahan, Jarnkrok, Hoggan are Wings forwards

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 06:50 PM ET

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For Detroit: Miller-Emmerton-Samuelsson


In goal: Mrazek

For Toronto:



In goal: Reimer

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 07:01 PM ET

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Let’s go Red Wings..!!!

Posted by Gary A$$ SUCK !! from Fort Myers, Florida on 09/28/13 at 07:34 PM ET


Shoot that Mitch….geez

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 07:39 PM ET


Two strong defensive plays in a row by Glendening.  Really liking the way he’s looked during the preseason.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 07:47 PM ET

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Stats in the 1st:

Shots 10-8 Detroit.

The Wings went 0-for-1 in 2:00 of PP time; the Leafs haven’t had a power play yet.

Faceoffs 11-5 Toronto (Detroit’s won 31%);

Blocked shots 8-5 Detroit;

Missed shots 3-3 (total attempts 19-18 Toronto);

Hits 17-11 Toronto;

Giveaways 9-3 Toronto;

Takeaways 4-2 Toronto.


Jarnkrok’s gone 1-and-4 (20%) on faceoffs; Glendening’s 2-and-2 (50%); Emmerton’s 2-and-1 (67%); Sheahan’s 0-and-3; Tatar’s 0-and-1.

Glendening leads the Wings with 3 shots; Emmerton has 2; Kindl, Nyquist, Jurco, Pulkkinen and Ouellet have 1;

Sproul’s had 2 shot attempts blocked;

Kindl and Glendening have 2 hits apiece; Miller, Paetsch, Jurco, Samuelsson, Sproul, Callahan and Hoggan have 1;

Giveaways by Mrazek, Smith and Pulkkinen;

Takeaways for Nyquist and Glendening;

Smith has blocked 2 shots; Kindl, Sheahan, Lashoff, Emmerton, Callahan and Ouellet have blocked 1.

Ouellet leads the Wings with 7:33 played; Kindl’s played 7:22; Sproul 7:02; Smith 6:54; Tatar 6:15; Nyquist 6:11; Lashoff 5:38; Emmerton 5:20, Jarnkrok 5:00.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 07:56 PM ET


Mrazek looked real strong during the first period.  So composed.  I liked what I saw from Jurco last night, and getting the same so far.  He and Pulks look stronger along the boards than I expected.  Tatar and Nyquist look stupid fast on rushes together.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 07:57 PM ET

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Sprout is nice and smooth.

Posted by MoreShoot on 09/28/13 at 08:05 PM ET

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It hasn’t been pretty, but you can see that the Griffins know how to play defense, and Sproul, Ouellet and Glendening have been very good, and Nyquist is busting his hump out there.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 08:06 PM ET

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Wow.  Mrazek

Posted by MoreShoot on 09/28/13 at 08:19 PM ET

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Lets GO Red Wings!!!!!

Still no score, less than eight minutes to go in 2nd period.

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's Chair on 09/28/13 at 08:29 PM ET

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There’s a whole in Sprouls game:  no snarl at all.

Posted by MoreShoot on 09/28/13 at 08:31 PM ET

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Should have been an icing.

Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 09/28/13 at 08:33 PM ET

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Come on Wings, Lets put one in their Net!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's Chair on 09/28/13 at 08:38 PM ET

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Shots in the 2nd 10-9 Toronto, 19-18 Detroit overall…

Leafs 1-for-2 in 2:04 of PP time; Wings 0-for-1 in 2:00. There’s been a LOT let go on both sides here.

Faceoffs 22-17 Toronto (Detroit’s won 44%);

Blocked shots 12-8 Detroit;

Missed shots 7-6 Toronto (total attempts 37-34 Toronto);

Hits 29-20 Toronto;

Giveaways 16-9 Toronto;

Takeaways 7-6 Detroit.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 08:46 PM ET

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Faceoffs: Jarnkrok’s gone 5-and-5 (50%); Glendening’s gone 5-and-5 (50%); Sheahan’s gone 3-and-6 (33%); Emmerton’s 4-and-5 (44%); Miller and Tatar have lost their only faceoffs.

Shots: Pulkkinen leads the Wings with 4 shots; Nyquist and Glendening have 3; Emmerton has 2; Kindl, Miller, Paetsch, Jurco, Sproul, Callahan, Ouellet and Jarnkrok have 1.

Blocked attempts: Sproul’s hit Leaf players 3 times; Lashoff and Pulkkinen have hit Leaf players 2 times;

Hits: Lashoff leads the team with 4; Callahan has 3 hits; Kindl, Paetsch, Samuelsson and Glendening have 2; Miller, Emmerton, Jurco, Sproul and Hoggan have 1.

Giveaways: Lashoff has 2 giveaways; Smith, Kindl, Nyquist, Emmerton and Pulkkinen have 1.

Takeaways: Smith and Paetsch have 2 takeaways; Nyquist, Tatar and Glendening have 1.

Blocked opponent shots: Smith, Kindl and Pulkkinen of all people have blocked 2 shots; Nyquist, Sheahan, Lashoff, Emmerton, Glendening and Ouellet have blocked 1 shot.

Penalties: Kindl and Ouellet have taken minors.

Plus-minus: The Wings are a collective -5.

Ice time: Smith leads the team with 14:20 played; Sproul’s played 13:58; Kindl 12:58; Paetsch 11:55; Glendening 11:35; Tatar 11:28; Nyquist 11:06; Emmerton 10:59; Lashoff 10:26; Sheahan 10:23…Jurco’s played the least at 8:45.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 08:51 PM ET

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Sproul hasn’t been assertive, no doubt, but the whole 2nd period was very mediocre…And Emmerton and Samuelsson have been crappy.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 08:54 PM ET


So I apparently didn’t understand the new icing at all.  Once they decide it’s a race and they let the play go it doesn’t matter who touches first?  Because that’s what it seemed like the announcers were saying.  That’s stupid.

They really should get the refs into training camp like a week after the Stanley Cup is awarded.  Abysmal as usual.  Weak hook on Ouellet sold big time less than a minute after a Wing was tackled from behind while trying to join the rush.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 08:55 PM ET

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The icing wave-off was incredibly poor. Paetsch had a) body position and b) he touched the puck.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 08:57 PM ET


I don’t know if the Miller, Emmerton, Samuelsson line is just trying to get through the game without getting hurt, but yuck.  I really can’t recall a single time this preseason that Samuelsson had stood out in a good way.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 08:58 PM ET

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  I really can’t recall a single time this preseason that Samuelsson had stood out in a good way.

“full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.”

...which is probably why signing him was a universally despised move from the get-go.

Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 09/28/13 at 09:08 PM ET

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Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's Chair on 09/28/13 at 09:16 PM ET


Love the effort by Samuelsson on that shift.  rolleyes

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 09:16 PM ET

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The problem tonight is that the veterans have been playing, “Let’s survive and let the kids do it” hockey instead of leading. Emmerton, Samuelsson and even Miller have been awful, Smith’s been himself, Lashoff’s been shaky at times, Kindl may be the best “veteran” in the lineup and only really Tatar and Nyquist have played like their jobs depend on what they’re doing tonight. It’s disappointing.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 09/28/13 at 09:20 PM ET

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Woo Hoo - Mitch!

Go Wings!!!!!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's Chair on 09/28/13 at 09:29 PM ET


Solid shot by Callahan, nice.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 09:29 PM ET

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Glendening can play for the big club. Jarnkrök really needs to shoot. I like Jurco.

Posted by MoreShoot on 09/28/13 at 09:32 PM ET


Now to figure out the lineup for Wednesday.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 09/28/13 at 09:39 PM ET

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