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Red Wings-Jets pre-game skate: Holland at the GM’s meetings; on fighting, Glendening and Hasek

Ahead of toight's game between the Red Wings and Winnipeg Jets (7:30 PM, FSD/TSN Jets/1270 AM), Red Wings GM Ken Holland made some noise of the non-personnel variety, as noted by the Canadian Press...

Overtime was one of many of topics discussed at Tuesday's annual general managers meeting after Hockey Hall of Fame induction night, along with fighting, hybrid icing and the playoff format that was introduced for this season. No formal rule changes came about, though the purpose of this get-together is more to set up the next meeting in March.

Forty of the first 262 games this season have gone to a shootout. GMs have been discussing making overtime 10 minutes to cut down on shootouts "to some degree," according to Ken Holland of the Detroit Red Wings. Holland proposed five minutes of four-on-four and then three minutes of three-on-three, while Doug Armstrong of the St. Louis Blues and others want simply 10 minutes of four-on-four.

"I think there was an appetite in the room from all the managers and also from (commissioner Gary Bettman) to look at a way to extend overtime," Holland said. "And we're talking about possibly do we switch (ends), longer changes and do some things to try to maybe have better ice, whether it's more shovelling or something."

Holland said it's possible overtime gets extended to seven or eight minutes instead of 10, which he considers an improvement he could live with.


The GMs also got clarification on the playoff format, which could include wild-card teams crossing over because of total points even if four make it from each division in one conference. Under the new alignment and format, the top three teams from each division and two wild cards from each conference qualify.

"Certainly my personal opinion is wherever possible to stay within the division, it creates rivalries, less travel," Holland said. "That's obviously part of the reason why we went to two divisions in each conference was to build rivalries, less travel. Obviously there's a crossover component, we talked about it today, and that's why we're going to continue to talk about it in March."

And NHL.com's Corey Masisak:

Ken Holland has long been one of the leading proponents of extending overtime to decide more games before the shootout, and the Detroit Red Wings general manager said Tuesday he thinks the support for such an action is growing among his peers.

Overtime was one of the popular subjects at the general managers meeting in Toronto. Holland has proposed in the past to have five minutes of 4-on-4 overtime followed by five minutes of 3-on-3 before a shootout. Different proposals or amendments to the current overtime format were discussed Tuesday, and OT will be discussed in further detail at the next get together between the League's GMs in March.

"We talked in there and we're going to talk again in March," Holland said. "There seems to be some interest in maybe expanding overtime another couple of minutes. Whether it remains 4-on-4 or goes from 4-on-4 to 3-on-3 certainly seems to gaining some traction and we're going to have a long conversation about it in March."

Beyond Holland's proposal, there was also discussion about extending 4-on-4 to 10 minutes, or somewhere in the middle to seven or eight minutes. St. Louis Blues GM Doug Armstrong and Tampa Bay Lightning GM Steve Yzerman both said they were proponents of extending 4-on-4.

Armstrong also said New Jersey Devils GM Lou Lamoriello suggested having teams switch ends again in the extra session, with the idea that long changes could produce more offensive chances.

Other issues discussed during the meeting included fighting, goalie fights, hybrid icing, the impact of the change in goalie equipment and the size of the nets, and the new playoff format.

NHL.com also posted a video of Holland speaking with the NHL Network about the GM's meetings:

Also from the GM's meetings, via RedWingsFeed:

Regarding tonight's game, and the current Red Wings players, here's the Red Wings website's game-day preview...

The Macomb Daliy's Chuck Pleiness took note of Jordin Tootoo's take on the state of fighting in the game given the league's desire to crack down on goalie scraps...

Detroit Red Wings enforcer Jordin Tootoo sees the end of fighting coming soon to the NHL. And the first sign will be if the league starts handing out suspensions to goaltenders that decide to drop the gloves during a game.

“Unfortunately it looks that way,” Tootoo said. “This game has a lot of emotions and things happen spontaneously. If you take that part out of the game there’s just not going to be any emotion in the game whatsoever.

“Guys are going to take liberations,” Tootoo continued. “It’s not the way the game is supposed to be played.”


“The whole situation with the fighting and what not, it’s getting cracked down everywhere,” Tootoo said. “I think it’s probably the right thing to do. Goalies don’t train to do those types of things. There’s one of two in the league that are, that practice boxing or whatever. I think it’s probably a good thing.”

Asked if he felt this was one step closer to eliminating fighting from the league Tootoo said, “Absolutely, for sure.”

The Windsor Star's Bob Duff noted an intriguing angle regarding tonight's scratch of Daniel Cleary--it's not coming at Luke Glendening's expense...

I like him,” Wings coach Mike Babcock said of Glendening. “To me he’s an NHL player who can help our team. He’s a right-hand faceoff guy; he’s a really good penalty killer. He just plays simple and he plays heavy. He likes physical contact, he knows where to play and he plays with pace. He’s not a great agility skater, but he’s got real good speed up and down the middle.”

Called up last week from Grand Rapids of the American Hockey League when Stephen Weiss was shelved due to a groin injury, Glendening, an undrafted free-agent who hails from Grand Rapids is savouring every chance he has to learn at the big-league level.

“I just have to be appreciative every day,” said Glendening, who will work on the fourth line between Drew Miller and Justin Abdelkader. “I think I am. I’m grateful for the opportunity. A lot of people would do anything to be in my shoes. I’m excited to be here again and I’ll do anything to help.”

As with most newcomers to the NHL, Glendening recognizes that the simple game is the best game.

“I think it’s the little things, attention to detail, winning faceoffs, being a good PK guy, bringing energy to the team when they need it,” Glendening said. “I don’t have the greatest stat line here, so I want to get back on the plus side of the game and I think that’s big for me. I’m supposed to be a good defensive player, we’re supposed to be a line they can put out there and bring energy to the team and not get scored on. It happens, but you’ve got to try to limit the chances against every game.”

Glendening gives much of the credit for his development to Grand Rapids coach Jeff Blashill.

“He’s a great teacher, he knows how to deal with young guys,” Glendening said. “I’ve learned a lot from him. I’m very appreciative of what he’s done for me. There’s so much confidence you have to gain yourself, and there’s some a coach can give you as well and he’s definitely instilled that confidence in me, putting me in situations to succeed.”

In a game-day feature, MLive's Brendan Savage wondered aloud whether the Wings' struggles at Joe Louis Arena will impact the team's playoff fortunes...

The Red Wings have thrived away from Joe Louis Arena, posting a 6-3-0 record on the road. Those six road victories are the most of any team in the Eastern Conference. But at home, the Red Wings are 3-2-4. Only Florida and Buffalo have won fewer home games than the Red Wings this season.

The Red Wings are in the midst of a five-game winless streak at home. They're 0-1-4 in that span and have lost three straight overtime games at home entering tonight's matchup with Winnipeg at Joe Louis Arena.

If the Red Wings can't turn things around quickly at home they could look back on this stretch of the schedule as a time when they blew an opportunity to make a move in the standings since they're in the midst of playing four straight games and seven of eight at Joe Louis Arena.

Tonight's game is their third straight at home. They'll host Washington Friday before hitting the road to play the Islanders Saturday.

Is there any way to explain why the Red Wings are struggling at home and doing well on the road?

And the Winnipeg Sun's Ken Wiebe offered the following in his game-day blog entry:

“We were rolling right along until we got to the mighty Jets there and they stomped us. We haven’t recovered,” said Red Wings head coach Mike Babcock, who was playing to his audience with a little good-natured humour. “But no, I thought we played a fairly good game against Dallas and deserved better and I thought we were fortunate to get a point against Tampa.”

Darren Helm of St. Andrews finds himself in a good spot, as he’s been bumped to the second line and the 2nd PP unit for the Red Wings.

“It’s a lot different, but I have played in (an offensive role) a long time ago, I have to remember how to do that, make some plays and see if we can get a couple of goals out there,” said Helm, who will be flanked by Johan Franzen and Daniel Alfredsson. “I don’t want to go out there and play like them. I’ve got to play like me.”

Outside of the outcome, Helm enjoyed his first NHL game at MTS Centre last week.

“It was fun. The crowd was amazing,” said Helm. “That’s what I was most excited for and they didn’t disappoint. They were loud and on their feet. It would have been nice to have a better performance, but that’s how some nights go.”

Speaking of healthy scratches, Babcock is making veteran Dan Cleary a healthy scratch tonight. Cleary took the news well, but Babock — who called himself Cleary’s biggest fan — figures Cleary would be “pissed off” by the news.

“I have to work hard, be positive and be professional about it,” said Cleary, who has a goal and three points in 18 games this season while primarily playing a Top-6 role. “Frustrating is normal, but you can’t dwell on the negatives.”




Otherwise, the Wings noted that their digital merchandise catalog's now available online, and they noted that Dominik Hasek told NHL.com that he hopes that he'll be making a trip to Toronto next November...

While the latest inductees still are enjoying their new spot in the Hockey Hall of Fame, one potential member of next year's Hall induction class already is looking forward to a trip to Toronto in November 2014. Dominik Hasek, who last played in 2010-11 for Spartak in the Kontinental Hockey League, will be on the Hall ballot for the first time next year.

"I don't exactly know the rules ... when the players are eligible for the Hockey Hall of Fame induction," Hasek told NHL.com. "But I can say that I am not planning to play hockey anymore, so from this point of view I am probably eligible. I know it's a big event and achievement. It would be a great honor."

Hasek certainly has Hall of Fame-worthy credentials. He won the Vezina Trophy six times and the Hart Trophy twice and skated in six NHL All-Star games. He had 389 wins and 81 shutouts in 735 games with the Chicago Blackhawks, Buffalo Sabres, Red Wings and Ottawa Senators. He also went 65-49 in 119 Stanley Cup playoff games, and backstopped the Red Wings to the 2002 Stanley Cup.

He represented his native Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic at four Olympics, including 1998, the first time NHL players took part. Hasek was named the Olympic's best goalie while leading the Czech Republic to the gold medal. He helped the Czechs win a bronze medal in 2006.

Hasek left the NHL after the 2008 playoffs, when he backed up Chris Osgood en route to the Red Wings winning the Stanley Cup. He sat out the 2008-09 season, then returned to play one season each with HC Pardubice in the Czech Republic and Spartak in the KHL. Hasek made one final attempt to return to the NHL last summer, but found no interested teams.

Now 48, Hasek is living in Prague and enjoying other athletic pursuits, among them skiing, automobile racing and cycling with friends around exotic countries like Albania and India.

SI's Allan Muir issued a set of power rankings...

16 Detroit Red Wings Last Week: 12 It's hard to remember the last time a Red Wings team looked this out of sorts. They've lost five straight at home, dropping each of the last three in the dying seconds of overtime. Poor puck decisions are under the spotlight, but the offense needs to start chipping in as well. The power play is on a brutal 1-of-18 skid. (Last week: 0-0-2)

And the Muskegon Chronicle's Mark Opfermann took note of a charitable event involving the Wings' Alums:

Tickets went on sale Tuesday for the Detroit Red Wings alumni game against the Muskegon all-stars set for Saturday, Jan. 11, at L.C. Walker Arena.

Ticket prices are $10 for adults and $6 for children ages 3-12. There also are a limited number of V.I.P. tickets available for $25, which will include entry into a special postgame event in which the details will be announced at a later date. In past years, the V.I.P. event did sell out quickly, so fans are advised to get those tickets as soon as possible.

The Lumberjacks are looking to build off the success of the 2012 Red Wings Alumni Game at L.C. Walker Arena that featured a standing-room sellout and included notable former Red Wings Mickey Redmond, Joe Kocur, Kris Draper and John Ogrodnick. They played against notable former Muskegon greats such as Robin Bouchard, Rob Melanson, Drew and Jock Callander, and Scott Feasby.

Rosters for this year’s alumni game will be named at a later date.

Tickets can be purchased at the L.C. Walker Arena box office or http://www.startickets.com



Update: You'll have to excuse me for calling this quip from Holland, via the Hockey News's Adam Proteau, stupid:

Otherwise, the GMs discussed fighting in the game – and in particular, fighting between goalies – but no new rule was agreed on and the general sense provided by GMs who spoke to media was that there’s no substantial rule on fighting as a whole. That said, some GMs made it clear the issue of goalie fights wasn’t going to fade away.

“We talked about goalie fights and we’re going to discuss it again (at the next GM meetings) in March,” Red Wings GM Ken Holland said. “I would say the general consensus in there was that we’re OK with where fighting is right now. With regards to goalie fighting, we’d like to do something. We don’t really like to see goalies fighting.”

Update #2: Here's more from Holland via ESPN's Pierre LeBrun:

Red Wings GM Ken Holland's long-desired wish to extend the regular-season overtime period finally got enough support that GMs appear willing to craft a change to it in March.

"I proposed that we extend overtime, I’ve been pushing for 10 minutes, but there's some appetite to get it to seven or eight minutes," Holland said after the meeting wrapped up at the NHL's Toronto office. "I’d like to see a 3-on-3 component to it. We’ll discuss it more in March."

It appears now it's a given the five-minute overtime will be prolonged, but now it’s a question of agreeing on the exact parameters. Will it be to seven, eight, nine or 10 minutes of OT?

"(Blues GM) Doug Armstrong likes four on four for the whole extended overtime, I’d like to go half to three on three," Holland said. "But there's an appetite in the room from all the managers and from Gary (Bettman) to extend overtime."

Holland has been pushing for this for four or five years, the idea being that it would help minimize the impact of shootouts.

"I think there's good traction on the overtime," Dallas Stars GM Jim Nill said.

"I think there's a lot of debate around it, it’s been around for a couple of years now, Ken has put forward the idea of trying (as much as possible) to get the game completed before going to a shootout. So we'll see," Canucks GM Mike Gillis said.

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Tracy from T-Town Hockey 's avatar

I can see why Holland wants to change overtime, Howard is not very good at shoot outs!

Posted by Tracy from T-Town Hockey on 11/13/13 at 11:32 AM ET

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