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Red Wings Friday practice post: Glendening up, Tootoo in, lines shaken up

Updated 8x at 3:09 PM: The Red Wings were very unhappy with their individual and collective performances in their 4-2 loss to Phoenix on Thursday, and they continue their stretch of 4 games played over the course of 6 nights and 6 in 10 with tilts against Philly tomorrow (the Wings' "Pink the Rink" game), in Boston at 1 PM on Columbus Day, a home tilt against Columbus on Tuesday and a road trip to Denver and Phoenix next weekend, all before returning home to entertain the Sharks and Senators.

As such, as Paul noted, the Red Wings made quite the shake-up in the personnel department today--both in terms of call-ups/demotions and line changes. Per the Wings' PR department....

EMMERTON AND MRAZEK ASSIGNED TO GRAND RAPIDS
… Goaltender Jonas Gustavsson Removed from Injured Reserve …

Detroit, MI... The Detroit Red Wings today assigned center Cory Emmerton and goaltender Petr Mrazek to the AHL’s Grand Rapids Griffins and removed goaltender Jonas Gustavsson from injured reserve.

Emmerton, 25, has skated in 125 games with the Red Wings since 2010, recording 20 points (12-8-20) and 20 penalty minutes. He played in all 48 games for Detroit in 2012-13, tallying eight points (5-3-8) and ranking third on the team with 413 faceoff wins. The St. Thomas, Ontario, native also appeared in 217 games with the Griffins from 2006-11, recording 111 points (34-77-111) and 66 penalty minutes. His most productive season with the club came in 2010-11, when he recorded a career-high 38 points (12-26-38) in 65 contests.

Mrazek, 21, started two games for the Red Wings last season and won his NHL debut with 26 saves in a 5-1 victory at St. Louis on Feb. 7. He finished the year with a 1-1 record, a 2.02 GAA and a 0.922 save percentage. The second-year pro also appeared in 42 games for the Griffins last season, sporting a 23-16-2 record, a 2.33 GAA and a 0.916 save percentage and earning a spot on the on the Western Conference’s roster for the AHL All-Star Classic. The Ostrava, Czech Republic, native was also in net for every minute of Grand Rapids’ first-ever Calder Cup championship, owning a 15-9 record, a 2.31 GAA, a 0.916 save percentage and a franchise-record four shutouts in the postseason.

Gustavsson, 28, appeared in seven games with the Red Wings last year in his first season with the club. He is eligible to return to the lineup this weekend as Detroit hosts the Philadelphia Flyers on Saturday at 7 p.m. (FOX Sports Detroit/97.1 The Ticket).

The Grand Rapids Griffins are confirming:

The Detroit Red Wings on Friday assigned forward Cory Emmerton and goaltender Petr Mrazek to the Grand Rapids Griffins.

Emmerton, 25, has appeared in 125 games with the Red Wings since the 2010-11 season, producing 20 points (12-8—20). The St. Thomas, Ontario, native skated in 217 games with the Griffins from 2006-11, recording 111 points (34-77-111) and 66 penalty minutes.

Mrazek, 21, begins his second season with the Griffins after posting a 23-16-2 record, a 0.916 save percentage and a 2.33 GAA during his rookie campaign. The Ostrava, Czech Republic, native backstopped Grand Rapids to its first-ever Calder Cup championship, producing a 15-9 record, a 2.31 GAA, a 0.916 save percentage and a franchise-record four shutouts during the playoffs. Mrazek also became the second goalie in history to earn a victory in his NHL, AHL and ECHL debuts in one season.

The Griffins (1-0-1-0) will face the Hamilton Bulldogs on the road tomorrow at 7 p.m. before returning to Grand Rapids for their home opener on Friday, Oct. 18 at 7 p.m. against the Milwaukee Admirals.

 

The practice narrative went something like this...

So the lines are Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi, Abdelkader-Weiss-Franzen, Alfredsson-Andersson-Cleary, Miller-Glendening-Tootoo, and the defensive pairs remain the same (Kronwall-Ericsson, DeKeyser-Kindl and Quincey-Smith-Adventure-Time). Howard caught a "stinger" but is OK, Glendening out-played Emmerton in the exhibition season--he really did--and Gustavsson's healthy, so Mrazek's heading to Grand Rapids.

And Ted Lindsay's hosting a beer-tasting festival at the Freedom Hill Ampitheatre in Sterling Heights on Saturday, so Niklas Kronwall's partnership with Anthony Ianni and the Autism Alliance of Michigan isn't something that's restricted to a one-off deal.

Via RedWingsFeed, again, Michigan Hockey's Stefan Kubus noted that Wings coach Mike Babcock was very unhappy with the Wings' performance last night...

“I’ve never seen it like that, we’ve never been beaten like a drum like that at home ever,” Red Wings head coach Mike Babcock said. “Their intensity was much higher than ours and we addressed it from the first period on and never were able to anything about it. I know we have good face-off people; we’re a real good face-off team and tonight, for whatever reason, we weren’t.”

However, a hefty chunk of the tale in this match-up was told in the face-off circle; Phoenix won 66-percent of the draws (46/70), making it difficult for Detroit to generate momentum in their favor.

“I thought we were poor,” Babcock said. “We started out, we lost the first seven face-offs in our own zone and we didn’t skate very good, gave up too many odd-man rushes.”

Morris opened the scoring for Phoenix just 2:21 into the first period, stepping into a shot from just inside the blue line at the right point to blow one past a screened Howard.

Andersson responded with his first of the season for Detroit, 5:07 into the second stanza – a back-and-forth 20 minutes – on a juicy rebound that bounced out in front of Smith after the Red Wings drove the net hard. A mere 53 seconds later, Ericsson put the Red Wings ahead, intercepting a breakout pass along the boards and blasting one past Smith for the 2-1 lead.

At the 7:04 mark, Mikkel Boedker scooped up a rebound with Howard sprawling out in front to knot things up at two aside. In the third, Stone unleashed a cannon on a feed from Mike Ribiero to make it 3-2, with Vermette adding an empty-netter late to seal the deal for the Yotes.

“I don’t know it’s lack of offense,” Red Wings captain Henrik Zetterberg said. “We created a lot of chances. We need to put the puck in the net. I probably should have had two tonight. I’ve got to bear down a little better when I have the chance. That’s the way it goes sometimes. We have to keep at it. It’s early in the season and we have to keep believing in ourselves.”

Michigan Hockey also posted a photo gallery from the game and a story about Phoenix's David Moss meeting with injured Catholic Central forward David Sorisho...

Chris Osgood spoke with Detroit Sports 105.1 FM's Matt Dery...

And DetroitRedWings.com's Christy Hammond noted that the Wings are very passionate about fighting breast cancer:

Starting goaltender Jimmy Howard will sport a different look this Saturday, Oct. 12, when the Detroit Red Wings host Philadelphia on the team’s Seventh Annual Breast Cancer Awareness Night presented by Team Rehab. With the help of Vaughn, which generously donated the equipment, and artist Ray Bishop, Howard will wear a pink and white catcher and blocker along with a special goalie mask to support the cause. Howie’s gear is in honor of his wife’s relative, who is a breast cancer survivor. All of his pink and white equipment will be auctioned off with the proceeds benefiting two local cancer centers to help cover the costs of treatment for uninsured and underinsured metro Detroit residents battling the disease.

Howard is just one of many players and staff members with a personal connection to breast cancer. The wife of forward Todd Bertuzzi, Julie, spent her summer at her mother Kathy’s side, accompanying her to chemotherapy treatments after she received the diagnosis of triple-negative breast cancer. Julie has seen other women in her family battle and, unfortunately, succumb to the disease. As her mom begins radiation treatments, Julie focuses on what she can do to help others receive life-saving screening and treatment. Julie and Todd will host a patient currently receiving treatment at Karmanos Cancer Institute at Saturday’s game.

The commitment to a Breast Cancer Awareness night began more than seven years ago with the help of Red Wings Advisor to Hockey Operations Chris Chelios, who was a Wings defenseman at the time of the program’s inception.

Chelios watched his sister Gigi battle breast cancer for 10 years before she passed away on Sept. 25, 2000, at the age of 36. With his encouragement, the entire lineup used hot pink hockey tape on their sticks during pre-game warmups on Oct. 24, 2008, which were then auctioned off on the concourse during the game.

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Defenseman Brendan Smith has pledged that for every assist he records during the 2013-14 season, he will make a donation to Karmanos Cancer Institute to assist uninsured and underinsured women with the expenses associated with treatment. Smith has been a proponent in the fight against breast cancer after watching his paternal grandparents both struggle with their own breast cancer diagnoses. Smith’s grandmother passed away on Christmas Eve 2009 from the disease. His grandfather is a rare male breast cancer survivor. According to the American Cancer Society, the lifetime risk of a man getting breast cancer is about one in 1,000.

In addition to the “Survivor Suite,” in which the Red Wings host breast cancer survivors, Henrik Zetterberg and his wife Emma host breast cancer patients and their young families in the Zetterberg Foundation Suite each year. This season, they will welcome five women and families to the game from Karmanos Cancer Institute. Emma will personally visit the families in the suite during the game as this night holds a special place in her heart; her mother was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2003.

"Eight years ago, my family found out that my mom successfully finished radiation treatment," Zetterberg explained. "We were so excited when we got the news after everything she had to go through. I have personally seen how tough the treatment process can be and that's why Henrik and I are honored to host these amazing women receiving treatment at Karmanos Cancer Institute and their families at the game in our Zetterberg Foundation Suite. We just want to give them a fun night out with their families where they can forget about the chemo, radiation, surgeries and side effects that come with the fight against this horrible disease."

 

Update: Babcock's in full growl, per the Free Press's Anthony Fenech:

Update #2: The NHLPA's Chris Lomon penned a story about Jonathan Ericsson, and the story leans heavily upon the fact that the Wings are "Little Sweden":

“I don’t know how it really came to be, but it’s nice,” Ericsson told NHLPA.com after landing in Carolina to play the Hurricanes (a 3-2 OT win). “It’s one of those things where you are really proud to be part of this team, in knowing the organization thinks highly of Swedish players.”

This season’s edition of Team Sweden, so to speak, now includes former longtime Ottawa forward Daniel Alfredsson, a most welcome addition to the group.

“Last year, we were very up and down on the power-play,” offered Ericsson, of the 15th-ranked unit that had an 18.4% success rate. “We all knew he’d be great for us, not only for the power-play, but in the dressing room, too. The one thing that really surprised me is how good he is on the penalty kill. But the chemistry, even though it’s early, is there.

That chemistry also exists away from the rink.

“Even though we are from different parts of Sweden, we have a strong bond with one another,” noted Ericsson, a native Karlskrona (headquarters of the Swedish Coast Guard). “All of our significant others get along well, too. It’s nice to have that.”

What the group of players doesn’t have in Detroit, however, is a Little Sweden-type place to call their own.

“There is a neighborhood in Chicago (Andersonville) that has a lot of Swedish spots,” said Ericsson, of the community that is home to the Swedish American Museum, a Swedish Bakery and other Swedish delicatessens. “I visited there during the All-Star break. It was really great.”

At the very least, there is one familiar reminder of their native land in Detroit.

“We have an Ikea, so I guess that’s pretty Swedish,” quipped Ericsson.


Update #3: Sovetsky Sport reports that Sergei Fedorov did not play against Metallurg Magnitogorsk today...

The Red Wings rank 6th in NHL.com's Corey Masisak's "Super 16"...

6. . Detroit Red Wings (2-2-0) LW: 3

The Red Wings have not scored so far quite like they will be expected to, but did enough in spurts of two of their three games. Following up on last week, Stephen Weiss is off to a strong start (57.1 CF%). They're fine.

MUST SEE: This power play did not lead to a goal, or any grade-A scoring chances, but just watch the mesmerizing puck movement here [VIDEO]. Pavel Datsyuk is the one hockey player who could probably fit in FC Barcelona's starting XI.

MUST READ: This is cheating a little bit, as it only indirectly involves the Wings, but Corey Sznajder of Shutdown Line used screenshots to show how the Carolina Hurricanes improved against the Philadelphia Flyers after blowing a lead against Detroit.

Not surprisingly, NBCSN will air oodles of Notre Dame games as part of their Big 10 sked...

And in a very weird story, Sovetsky Sport reports that the Salei family headed to Moscow to take part in a TV show in which psychics claimed to speak for Ruslan Salei...

Update #4: Here's the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness's practice report:

Regarding the line changes...

“That’s the thing about our business, if you don’t do good things you have to change things and that’s the bottom line,” said Babcock, who wasn’t completely sure if that’s how the lines would like for Saturday’s home game against the Philadelphia Flyers. “All I know is I can’t keep going the way we’re going because it isn’t working. I’ve got one line playing, 13-40-8. 8’s playing really well and skating good so I’m going to penalize 13 and 40, take him away and put him somewhere else. He’s got to help somebody else.”

Alfredsson understands why the move may be made.

“I think our line hasn’t clicked as we would have liked,” said Alfredsson, who had been on a linewith Weiss and Franzen. “(He) needed to change something. Hopefully this can stabilize and spread out the scoring and get everybody going.”

Regarding Glendening and Tootoo...

“He’s a thick kid,” Babcock said. “When we played in Toronto, Cory Emmerton went and he went. He played against (Nazem) Kadri and I thought he played really well. He’s a right-hand shot, ideally he’ll learn to win faceoffs at our level and he’ll learn to be a good penalty killer. He might end up having to play on the wing for us one day because we have Andersson and (Darren) Helm down the middle, but we’re going to give him an opportunity to help us.”

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“I want him to be Toots,” Babcock said. “I want him to be solid on the puck and make good plays on the wall and get it out and I want him to be all over their D.”

And regarding the Wings' struggles...

“When you get beat like we did last the way we did, I’ve been here a long time, but if you can dig up a game when we’ve been that bad at home,” Babcock said. “I understand sometimes in the first period you get fed your lunch and you respond, but it was like that all night long. We lost the first seven draws in own zone, to me that’s intensity and being prepared. As a coach you didn’t do a very good job. It’s up to you to get your team ready to play, we weren’t ready to play, we didn’t play hard enough, we were foolish in the way we played, we weren’t relentless, go through the whole thing and it was a tough day.”

The Wings won just 34-percent of the faceoffs taken against the Coyotes.

“You could just tell the focus wasn’t there from the start, especially in the first,” Jimmy Howard said. “You look at the faceoffs in the first period alone and that pretty much tells the whole story of the night and how it went. From the drop of the puck to the final buzzer they were the better team and they won.”

Update #5: Here's the Wings' press release regarding recalling Glendening:

The Detroit Red Wings today recalled center Luke Glendening from the AHL’s Grand Rapids Griffins.

A native of Grand Rapids, Mich., Glendening earned a contract from Detroit this summer after spending his first professional season with the Griffins and ECHL’s Toledo Walleye. The 24-year-old forward racked up 21 points (14-7-21) in 27 games with Toledo and earned a selection to the ECHL All-Star Game before getting recalled to the AHL. In 50 games with his hometown club, he recorded 26 points (8-18-26) and 50 penalty minutes. Glendening also played a major role in the team’s championship run, tying for the AHL postseason rookie lead and for sixth overall with 16 points (6-10-16) in 24 games.

Prior to turning pro, Glendening spent four seasons with the University of Michigan, where he joined the team as a walk-on. He went on to captain the team as a junior and a senior, wrapping up his collegiate career in 2011-12 with 21 points (10-11-21) in 41 games. The 5-foot-11, 195-pound forward logged 70 points (31-39-70) in 165 games with the Wolverines from 2008-12.

And here's MLive's Ansar Khan's practice report, which focuses on the Glendening recall:

“He’s a thick kid,’’ Babcock said of Glendening’s 5-foot-11, 200-pound frame. “When we played in Toronto (preseason on Sept. 28), (Glendening) played against (Nazem) Kadri and I thought he played really well.

“He’s a right-hand shot; ideally he’ll learn to win faceoffs at our level, he’ll learn to be a good penalty killer. He might end up having to play on the wing for us one day because we have (Joakim) Andersson and (Darren) Helm down the middle, but we’re going to give him an opportunity to help us.’’

Glendening, 24, had eight goals and 26 points in 51 regular season games with the Griffins in 2012-13, his first season as a pro. He added six goals and 16 points in 24 playoff games.

Emmerton cleared waivers on Sept. 30 but was able to stay with the Red Wings after they placed Patrick Eaves on long-term injured reserve. Emmerton had one assist, seven shots and an even plus-minus rating in four games.

Jonas Gustavsson, who suffered a pulled groin during a preseason game on Sept. 21, is ready to dress as Jimmy Howard’s backup on Saturday. Mrazek backed up Howard in all four games.

Why's Tootoo "in?" If the Wings want to trade him, he's got to prove that he can still play. And I think he's going to be a cap casualty, thus playing him ahead of Tatar.

 

Update #5.5: From DetroitHockey.net's Clark Rasmussen:

Update #6: The Free Press's Anthony Fenech focused on the Wings' line shake-ups (again, Bertuzzi's on the top line with Datsyuk and Zetterberg, Franzen and Weiss will play with Abdelkader, Alfredsson will play with Cleary and Andersson and Glendening will center Miller and Tootoo)...

"All I know is that I can’t keep going the way I’m going because it isn’t working,” Babcock said. “I’ve got one line to play.”

Abdelkader, who Babcock said “is playing really well and skating really good,” drops off the top scoring line with Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg, to lend his help to one of the team’s other three struggling lines. And Alfredsson, who hasn’t found a chemistry with linemates Johan Franzen and Stephen Weiss, will move to the third line with Joakim Andersson and Daniel Cleary.

I hate to say it, but in terms of the 4th line, the Wings can't trade Tootoo until he gets in a couple of games to prove that he's healthy. It sucks for Tatar and sucks for Nyquist, too, but that's how the cookie crumbles :(

“Our line hasn’t clicked as we would have liked and we need to change something,” Alfredsson said. “Hopefully this can stabilize and spread out the scoring and get everybody going.

But Alfredsson said it’s not just the scoring that the team needs to tidy up, it’s everything.

“We have to tighten up in all areas,” he said.

And Babcock had a laundry list of those areas after Friday’s practice. Faceoffs. Giving up scoring chances. Not giving up the puck on penalty kills. He said he couldn’t remember the Wings playing a home game as poorly as they did in the 4-2 loss to Phoenix.

“As a coach, I didn’t do a very good job,” Babcock said. “It’s up to you to get your team ready to play.”

And he noted that Howard is OK:

Howard was hit up high with a puck in practice – “A stinger,” he said – and left the ice but returned and said he would be good to go for tomorrow’s game.

MLive's Ansar Khan also penned a story about the line changes:

“That’s the thing about our business; if you don’t do good things you have to change things and that’s the bottom line,’’ Babcock said. “The disturbing things for me (Thursday) was the faceoff circle (they lost 46-of-70 draws), the amount of times we dove in; we felt we gave up 21 scoring chances in the game and in a normal game for us it’s between eight and 12. We were poor in D-zone. Don’t get me wrong, we had a ton of chances ourselves, an absolute ton. The power play got a chance in the third period, we couldn’t get it in their zone. The penalty kill, we got a chance, we had the puck gave it to them and they shot it in the back of our net. Not good enough.’’

The second line of Stephen Weiss, Daniel Alfredsson and Johan Franzen was particularly bad, combining for no points and a minus-10 rating. Alfredsson was moved to the third line in practice, where he skated with Joakim Andersson and Daniel Cleary.

Justin Abdelkader, who was playing well on the top line with Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg, replaced Alfredsson on the second line. Todd Bertuzzi, for the most part, skated with Datsyuk and Zetterberg on Friday, though Mikael Samuelsson and Tomas Tatar also rotated in.

Babcock said he is not 100 percent sure which combinations he’ll use in Saturday’s game against the Philadelphia Flyers at Joe Louis Arena (7 p.m., Fox Sports Detroit).

“All I know is I can’t keep going the way we’re going because it isn’t working,’’ Babcock said. “I’ve got one line playing, 13-40-8 (that would be Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg and Justin Abdelkader); 8’s playing really well and skating good so I’m going to penalize 13 and 40, take him away and put (Abdelkader) somewhere else. He’s got to help somebody else.’’

Alfredsson, who has one assist and a minus-3 rating in four games, understands a change was needed.

“I think our line hasn’t clicked as we would have liked, needed to change something,’’ Alfredsson said. “Hopefully this can stabilize and spread out the scoring and get everybody going.’’

Said Abdelkader: “Hopefully we can get playing here, get everyone going. Sometimes it’s good to change things up.’’

 

Update #7: Via RedWingsFeed, the Detroit News's Ted Kulfan adds new stuff to the mix:

Howard struck: The Red Wings had a minor scare during Friday’s practice, when a shot struck goalie Jimmy Howard near the shoulder area and stunned him. It happened in the early going of practice, with Howard skating off the ice and not returning until the later stages of the workout.

Howard did face shots and said he would be ready to go Saturday against the Flyers.

“Just a stinger; I’ll be all right,” Howard said. “I’m fine.”

Ice chips: The Flyers fired coach Peter Laviolette earlier this week after three losses to open the season and replaced him with Craig Berube.

“They’re a team that’s searching for an identity just like we are right now,” Howard said. “It’s going to be another of those games where you’d better be ready to go from the drop of the puck. I’m expecting them to play us hard.”

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Flyers at Red Wings

Puck drop: 7 p.m.

TV/Radio: FSN-Detroit/97.1/WXYT 1270 AM.

Records: This will be the only appearance at Joe Louis Arena for the Coyotes…The former Western Conference rivals have allowed 11 goals in three games…G Mike Smith has a .904 save percentage but 3.40 goals-against average.

Outlook: The Flyers made a quick coaching change after losing their first three games, replacing Peter Laviolette with Craig Berube…The Flyers have struggled offensively early, scoring a total of five goals through four games…RW Claude Giroux had no points in four games.

 

Update #8: Here's DetroitRedWings.com's Bill Roose's practice report:

By Mike Babcock’s math the Red Wings coughed up more than 20 scoring chances Thursday in a 4-2 loss to the Phoenix Coyotes. And not wanting to see a repeat Saturday against Philadelphia, a change in the lineup was made on Friday.

“Did you watch us?” said Babcock, rhetorically. “That’s the thing about our business, if you don’t do good things you have to change things and that’s the bottom line.”

In an attempt to jump start the offense, the Red Wings sent veteran center Cory Emmerton to Grand Rapids and called up undrafted rookie and former University of Michigan standout Luke Glendening. Glendening, a Grand Rapids, Mich., native, led all AHL rookies last spring in playoff points (16) during the Griffins’ march to the Calder Cup championship. He produced eight goals and 18 assists in 51 regular-season games with the Griffins. Babcock said he was impressed by Glendening in the exhibition season, particularly the finale in Toronto.

“He played against (Nazem) Kadri and I thought he played really well,” Babcock said. “He’s a right hand shot, ideally he’ll learn to win faceoffs at our level, he’ll learn to be a good penalty killer. He might end up having to play on the wing for us one day because we have (Joakim) Andersson and (Darren) Helm down the middle, but we’re going to give him an opportunity to help us.”

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The offense has sputtered in the last two games, managing just three goals, while surrendering numerous scoring chances in consecutive losses to Boston and Phoenix.

“We felt we gave up 21 scoring chances in the game,” Babcock said. “In a normal game for us it’s between eight and 12. Don’t get me wrong, we had a ton of chances ourselves, an absolute ton. The power play got a chance in the third period, we couldn’t get it in their zone. The penalty kill, we got a chance, we had the puck, gave it to them and they shot it in the back of our net. Not good enough.”

Babcock shuffled the line combinations in Friday’s practice, though he could still change his mind, he said. Though the Pavel Datsyuk line has been productive, Justin Abdelkader was moved to the second line with center Stephen Weiss and forward Johan Franzen in hopes of generating more offense throughout the lineup. Todd Bertuzzi was moved up to the top line with Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg. Daniel Alfredsson was dropped to the third line where he worked with Andersson and forward Daniel Cleary.

Abdelkader wasn’t surprised by the line juggling.

“It can be good,” he said. “Hopefully we can get playing here, get everyone going. Sometimes it’s good to change things up.”

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WingedRider's avatar

I think the collective -10 2nd Line and Smith/Quincey worried me more.  Tatar still a spectator?  Nyquist in AHL to avoid losing waiver exemption after 2 NHL games.

Do the Wings want to play the Cap game or Win??  Cleary and Samuelsson are HUGE problems.  Smith continues to get worse and Quincey is plain useless and a huge Cap waste.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/11/13 at 01:52 PM ET

Slumpy's avatar

I like the Toots and Glendening adds to the lineup against Philly for Saturday. Those boys should bring the truculence to wake up the rest of the sleeping teammates.

“Ken Daniels has three shots of espresso in his Starbucks this morning.”
If he switched to decaf he would be three times less annoying.

Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 10/11/13 at 02:03 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

So they have trouble scoring, and they bring up Glendening and put Tootoo in?  Makes perfect sense.

Posted by Hootinani on 10/11/13 at 02:10 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

Tootoo has to prove that he can play before the Wings can trade him. “That’s the facts,” regrettably. As for Glendening, I don’t think that a natural center is necessary on the 4th line with Miller able to take draws, but I will say this: Glendening really did out-perform Emmerton by a wide margin during training camp and the exhibition, and he’s faster and hungrier on the ice.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 10/11/13 at 02:20 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

I’d like to see Almquist get a shot; trouble is which loadstone—Q or Smith—to tie him to?

Posted by MoreShoot on 10/11/13 at 02:24 PM ET

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What interests me is Alfredsson’s move to the third line.  It suggests that Babcock is doubling down on getting Weiss/Franzen to work.  This makes sense as they’re both under contract for a long time.  I don’t know if Abdelkader is the solution—I’d like to see Tatar on that line.

Posted by captaineclectic on 10/11/13 at 02:48 PM ET

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Babs really doesn’t like Tatar I guess. He didn’t score 5 goals in the 9 min he played so he’s not even good enough for the 4th line. What a joke.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 10/11/13 at 02:54 PM ET

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I don’t know if Abdelkader is the solution—I’d like to see Tatar on that line.

need more size.  Bert’s the best available.  Abbie is faster but has terrible hands.  Bert can make a play, but won’t get to as many pucks.

Posted by MoreShoot on 10/11/13 at 02:57 PM ET

Chet's avatar

B. Smith and a 2014 2nd for Jake Gardiner. make it so!

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 10/11/13 at 02:59 PM ET

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MoreShoot—we’re talking about the second line, right? 

You’re saying

Franzen-Weiss-Bertuzzi

is better than

Franzen-Weiss-Abdelkader (current line Babcock is skating)

and

Franzen-Weiss-Tatar (my preference)?

You might be right.  Franzen and Bert played well together on Datsyuk’s line in 2011-2012.  In the long run I’d like to see Bert in the pressbox as scoring depth in case of an injury, but I don’t think he’s useless. 

The real issue here is that a line with Franzen on it “needs size.”  He ought to be the size on that line.

Posted by captaineclectic on 10/11/13 at 03:02 PM ET

Chet's avatar

B. Smith and a forward not named Nyquist, Sheahan, Frk, Jurco, Tvrdon, Pulkinnen, Jarnkrok, or Mantha in GR for Jake Gardiner (and some of those I’d be flexible on if Tor sent a decent pick back our way). make it so!

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 10/11/13 at 03:06 PM ET

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Defenseman Brendan Smith has pledged that for every assist he records during the 2013-14 season, he will make a donation to Karmanos Cancer Institute to assist uninsured and underinsured women with the expenses associated with treatment.

Those poor, poor cancer patients.

Posted by Hootinani on 10/11/13 at 03:15 PM ET

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Babcock must despise Tatar. Guy played 9 minutes in one game with two inept line mates who couldn’t hit the goal if it were the size of a soccer net. It’s absolutely pathetic. Give the kid a chance in the league, dude. He’s done everything asked of him and then some. Pathetic.

Posted by ZandPasha11 on 10/11/13 at 03:36 PM ET

Primis's avatar

B. Smith and a 2014 2nd for Jake Gardiner. make it so!

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 10/11/13 at 02:59 PM ET

No.

B. Smith and a forward not named Nyquist, Sheahan, Frk, Jurco, Tvrdon, Pulkinnen, Jarnkrok, or Mantha in GR for Jake Gardiner (and some of those I’d be flexible on if Tor sent a decent pick back our way). make it so!

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 10/11/13 at 03:06 PM ET

No.  Why on earth would we trade for Jake Gardiner?


I am so, so tired of this.  I am so mad at Holland and Babcock.  Neither guy seems to be the right guy to actually transition this team, at this point.  Both are too stuck in their own ways.

I know George has said the kids WILL win out in the end, but I don’t know because the kids might not wait around another season or two in order to do so.  I know I wouldn’t continue waiting if I were them, because to be honest…. I don’t think Holland knows what he’s doing now at all, and I don’t think Babcock knows what to do with kids.  So this isn’t going to just “resolve itself”.

Posted by Primis on 10/11/13 at 04:08 PM ET

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Both are too stuck in their own ways.

Both are too stuck in their OLD ways.

Fixed.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/11/13 at 04:23 PM ET

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i’d take a flyer on gardiner over what i’ve seen out of smith so far. this glut of forwards we have in GR cannot all possibly make the team. what’s the downside?

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 10/11/13 at 04:32 PM ET

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I don’t know because the kids might not wait around another season or two in order to do so.

With Tatar that’s a semi-valid concern because he actually has a contract that’s expiring this next offseason, but they’re all RFAs and if the league has proven anything, it’s that RFAs have less than a Joe Thornton’s dick worth of leverage.

If they’re so pissed off about their usage, then they can go to the KHL and sulk.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/11/13 at 04:39 PM ET

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J.J. What do you think of how Babcock is managing the roster? I, for one, am irate at how he defers to over-the-hill veterans while we continue to let Tatar just rot in the press box. Give the kid a MF’ing chance, you know? And no, i’m sorry but 9 minutes on the 4th line against a bona fide Cup contender is not a chance. Babcock is really getting on my nerves.

Posted by ZandPasha11 on 10/11/13 at 04:42 PM ET

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Forgive the repost from the earlier Babcok thread that died.

Face it, Uncle Mike never met a young player that he would play unless it was absolutely necessary. Last season was a fluke, a perfect storm of injuries that forced Uncle Mike to play young unknown players. Now that he has a roster of healthy aging vets again, youth collects dust while aging vets try to stave off rust.

You think Smith would be anywhere near the roster if their was a healthy veteran Dman available? Smith’s ineptitude continually confirms to Babs his bias against youth.

Need a coach to get the best out of a veteran team for a playoff run or an all star team for an Olympic tournament? Babcock is the best there is.

Need a coach to cultivate younger players while re-building on the fly? Uncle Mike is your worst nightmare.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 10/11/13 at 04:46 PM ET

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J.J. What do you think of how Babcock is managing the roster?

I think it’s bullshit that Tatar is sitting and would rather watch a kid try to do too much than forget a different fourth liner is even on the ice.

I get why Nyquist is in Grand Rapids.  I don’t like it, but I get it.  I hope to hear very soon that the circumstances keeping him there are solved.

I just think that with the way the league works, there’s nothing young players can do about it that doesn’t hurt them.  The Wings have them by the balls and their choices suck if they don’t feel like dealing with it any more.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/11/13 at 04:51 PM ET

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Really agree with MoreShoot about Almquist. We’ve got a similar-sized defenseman in Toby Enstrom with the Wpg Jets and we love him.

Posted by manitobaredwingfan on 10/11/13 at 05:32 PM ET

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Need a coach to cultivate younger players while re-building on the fly? Uncle Mike is your worst nightmare.

Ericsson, Howard, Andersson, Abdelkader, Filppula, Helm, Hudler, Kindl, DeKeyser, Smith…

But yeah, other than those ten guys sure, Babcock totally dumps on young players.

Seriously though, I always get a kick out of posts like Denny’s.  Babcock literally tossed a multiple Cup winning goalie over the side for a rookie, has had Abdelkader skating a top line, played flat-ass rookie Andersson huge minutes in the freaking playoffs, put Helm in large roles, had DeKeyser playing 20 a night right off the bus, had Kindl playing minutes over White and Colaiacovo… but because he hasn’t inserted whoever Denny’s pet prospect is in the lineup by GAME FOUR OF THE SEASON, he doesn’t do much in moving young players onto the roster.

You guys.

There’s a not-insignificant chance that some/most/all of the young players we’re talking about here aren’t, you know, much good.  I know, I know… heresy, right?  After all, they’re prospects!  That magical combination of ephemeral skill and indeterminate future!  Surely, just throwing some 20 year old into the lineup would be an immediate improvement over some NHL vet, right?

It’s entirely possible all we’re dealing with here is a bunch of bottom half forwards and dmen, with maybe one guy or two tops who should be in the top half.  I think Babcock can be excused for not overturning the roster en masse for a messageboard hunch.

Speaking of Abdelkader, in his last 64 games he has 13 goals and 6 assists, playing a relevant portion of that IT on a line with Pavel freaking Datsyuk.  I know they aren’t portraying it as a demotion, but it should have been one anyway.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 10/11/13 at 05:42 PM ET

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Babcock literally tossed a multiple Cup winning goalie over the side for a rookie


Which is why I will always question every decision Babcock makes.


Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/11/13 at 06:40 PM ET

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I’m looking forward to seeing Luke on the ice.  From what I saw in the pre-season, I really liked the way that kid played. 

What’s the over/under on Seconds Into 1st Shift that Tootoo gets his first penalty?

I’m ok with any line shuffling as long as it doesn’t end in Dats-Z-Cleary.

Speaking of Cleary, why is he out there for 4-on-4 play?

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 10/11/13 at 07:08 PM ET

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The real issue here is that a line with Franzen on it “needs size.”  He ought to be the size on that line.

He’s big but he’s not a banger and never will be.  I really feel we’d tolerate him more for his strengths (great shot, defensively sound) if we accepted that he’s not a power forward.  He’s a finesse scorer in a power forward’s body.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 10/11/13 at 10:42 PM ET

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