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Red Wings coach Mike Babcock reaches quite the milestone

Per Hooked on Hockey Magazine's Kevin Sporka and Michigan Hockey's Stefan Kubus, Red Wings coach Mike Babcock passed Scotty Bowman on the Wings' all-time coaching wins list via Detroit's 3-2 win over Tampa Bay, and Babcock now only trails Jack Adams (413 wins) as the Wings' second-winningest coach:

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Figaro's avatar

Passing Scotty is swell and all, but isn’t it kind of special to be able to pass the guy they named your trophy after?

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 03/31/14 at 12:03 AM ET

perfection's avatar

speaking of which… I sure hope Babs gets it this season. He so deserves it. I thought last year’s team were overachievers, but it was nothing compared to this season. It’s been incredible. He looks like a different man out there too, animate in a different way than we’re used to. He is clearly Coaching with the most capitalist C.

And speaking of coaching, probably the only team in professional hockey more decimated than the Wings are the Griffins, who not only lost last year’s entire best line, but lost one of their top players in the Legwand trade and one of their top dmen, if not their top at the time, Marchenko to injury. Blash deserves a ton of credit down there. They currently sit comfortably in first place in their division and are among one of the best in the league. Pretty remarkable with the amount of turmoil that’s gone on there the past several months. And in a season following a grueling championship run no less? The incredible one-two coaching punch between our AHL and NHL teams may be our ultimate secret weapon.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 03/31/14 at 01:55 AM ET

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who gives a fat f. babs to his credit is right: win then retire and count.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 03/31/14 at 03:57 AM ET

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The incredible one-two coaching punch between our AHL and NHL teams may be our ultimate secret weapon.

If this season doesn’t turn the doubters around on Babcock for his coaching job and Holland for having so much depth in the system, they’re just going to be doubters forever without any possibility of being happy with what a coach or GM is doing.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/31/14 at 06:24 AM ET

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If this season doesn’t turn the doubters around on Babcock for his coaching job and Holland for having so much depth in the system, they’re just going to be doubters forever without any possibility of being happy with what a coach or GM is doing.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/31/14 at 06:24 AM ET

ABSOLUTELY.

It’s incredible to me, that a two game losing streak brings out calls for their heads.  The management of the Wings is second to none.

Posted by Bill from GR on 03/31/14 at 08:35 AM ET

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Fire Babcock!
hahaha

But as far as the depth in the minors - that’s WHY we’ve been hating on Ken Holland! We’ve said for a few seasons they’re letting fruit rot on the vine in GR. The vindication of these overachieving minor leaguers is in spite of Holland’s moves, not because of them. Instead of Nyquist, we started the year with Cleary and Samuelsson.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 03/31/14 at 01:20 PM ET

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oh my god. this is SOOOOOO absurd. the truth is right in front of your eyes. if anything is vindicated this year, it is the BIG RED MACHINE.

Our “overachieving” minors are overachieving precisely because of the system of both over-riping AND making kids EARN their spot against PROFESSIONAL vets with families like Sammy and Cleary.

You may miss the big picture here, but I’ve said this before,you just need to look at Sheahan. I first met him and watched him through college and I’ve followed his AHL career and I can tell you he’s never resembled the player we’ve seen this season. As a first rounder, he would have probably been forced into the lineup a year or two earlier by most every team in the league (except the few great ones… hmmm, go figure) and he was ABSOLUTELY not ready… physically or mentally.

I love how you twist your logic into a way that makes YOU right no matter what. If the kids OVERachieve, oh you were right all along, you TOTALLY knew more about our prospects than Holland/Babs/Blash did. And if they fail, well that’s because we let them ROT on the vine and if we only had brought them up sooner like you wanted, they’d be stars. It’s nonsense and all you have to do is listen to what kids like Tats, Gus, and Sheahan actually SAY. They KNOW they benefited from extra time down there. They KNOW they wouldn’t be handling this kind of pressure as professionally as they are if they were 19 or 20. Even the youngest of the kids, Jurco, is 21 and not 19.

You notice that despite all the overachieving kids that have been playing on the Wings (not to mention the one we traded to Nashville) that the Griffs are still in first place? must be a bunch of other kids ROTTING huh? ugh. It’s crazy to me that some people can’t see how good we have it. Yeah, Lids retired and we barely missed out on Suter. That’s the only real setback the machine has had the last few years and it’s brought us back to earth a bit. But last year’s playoff run, the Calder Cup, and the way the kids are bringing it shows that the Machine is as fine tuned as ever. Pay more attention to how things work in Toronto if you need a comparison. The way Holland and Co. balance respecting vets (which in turn lures guys like Alfie and gets others to take hometown discounts) and develops depth (hence the OVERachieving part) is truly the GOLD standard and the reason we will continue to compete for the cup while we “rebuild”. I don’t think any other team in professional sports has pulled that off multiple times in a row the way we are trying to do. You should be marveling at what you are seeing Holland accomplish.

And regarding Cleary - the guy who was our strongest player in the Chicago series last year and took a ONE year contract for far below his market value - I’d still sure rather he is on our depth chart come playoff time than our opponent’s. Maybe he never suits up again, but it baffles me how anyone can criticize Holland for that signing. No risk. Small money. Proven playoff warrior who the coach wanted back. End of story. People were actually saying at the time the big risk was that having Gus in the AHL for a whole two extra months until cap/roster space opened up was going to stunt his development… yeah, how’d that turn out?

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 03/31/14 at 02:12 PM ET

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So happy to read some comments supportive of our coach and GM.  They are the best in the business.  Babcock really should, as some NHL commentators have suggested, win the Jack Adams this year if the Wings make the playoffs.

(Team Canada knows a good coach when they see one, eh?)

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 03/31/14 at 02:26 PM ET

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they’re letting fruit rot on the vine in GR.

Fruit that has rotted on the vine is no longer good by the time it’s harvested. That doesn’t fit the definition of a lot of the players who are with the club right now.

Unless you’re that angry about Landon Ferraro, maybe? I mean, he’s really the only overripe fruit that went rotten, and that’s not really Holland’s doing as much as it is bad luck that this particular fruit ended up with too many bruises.

The vindication of these overachieving minor leaguers is in spite of Holland’s moves, not because of them.

Are they overachieving because they rotted on the vine and you expected them to somehow suck because of it?

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I mean, at least the vine metaphor is apt, because this thinking is badly twisted.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/31/14 at 02:50 PM ET

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If this season doesn’t turn the doubters around on Nyquist for his scoring ability and Nyquist for having so much speed and defense, they’re just going to be a doubter forever without any possibility of being happy with what a player is doing.

Doubter once, doubter always. Don’t you hate it when you see other people doing exactly what you do? That really gets me worked up.

HiHD please stop acting just like I do. It makes me want to complain about you while neglecting that I, in fact, do exactly the same thing making me a hypocrite.

Posted by howeandhowe on 03/31/14 at 04:03 PM ET

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