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Red Wings-Capitals quick take: ????

I am officially frustrated.

You start instead. The Wings blew a 2-goal lead in the 3rd period, yet again, Jimmy Howard received little support from his defense--this time literally getting pulled out of position by Brian Lashoff on the game-tying goal--and a predictable pattern emerged in the shootout, i.e. everybody tried their usual moves, and as such, Washington won 4-3 in a game the Wings had no business losing, yielding a seven-game home losing streak.

Jonathan Ericsson's return made the Wings' defense and transition game much, much better, despite Daniel Alfredsson's last-minute groin yank, the Wings' forwards were fine and Franzen was excellent, but the Wings can't seem to sweat the details of closing a game out or playing a solid 3rd period.

I'm baffled. You try to explain this one, because I'm really lost as to what the *#$%@& is going on right now. 0-1-and-4 over the last 5, with four striaght home losses.

Statistics:

Shots 37-33 Detroit overall. Detroit out-shot Washington 12-11 in the 1st and 13-8 in the 2nd, was out-shot 11-8 in the 3rd and out-shot Washington 4-3 in OT.

The Red Wings went 2-for-5 in 8:45 of PP time; the Capitals went 0-for-4 in 7:14.

Jimmy Howard stopped 30 of 33 shots; Braden Holtby stopped 34 of 37.

The 3 stars were picked by NHL.com's Brian Hedger, and he picked Johan Franzen, Alex Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom. Because he's a dick.

The Red Wings' goals: Franzen (3) from Kindl (6) and DeKeyser (6), PPG;

Franzen (4) from Tatar (2) and Helm (1);

DeKeyser (2) from Franzen (5) and Kindl (7), PPG.

Faceoffs 32-30 Detroit (Detroit won 52%);

Blocked shots 11-7 Washington;

Missed shots 13-7 Detroit (so the Wings had 61 shot attempts to Washington's 47, but the Wings fired 24 shots wide/blocked);

Hits 27-24 Washington;

Giveaways 10-5 Detroit;

Takeaways 11-8 Detroit.

Individual stats:

Faceoffs: Datsyuk went 11-and-14 (44%); Helm went 10-and-7 (59%); Andersson went 4-and-7 (36%); Abdelkader went 4-and-2 (67%); Franzen went 3-and-0 (100%).

Shots: Miller led the Wings with 6 shots; Tatar, Quincey, Zetterberg, Helm, DeKeyser and Franzen had 3; Kindl, Abdelkader, Kronwall and Cleary had 2; Datsyuk, Samuelsson and Bertuzzi had 1.

Blocked attempts: Zetterberg fired 4 shots into Capitals players; Datsyuk fired 2 into Caps players; Kindl, Miller, Tatar, Bertuzzi and DeKeyser had 1 attempt blocked.

Missed shots: Kindl missed the net 3 times; Bertuzzi, Kronwall and DeKeyser missed the net 2 times; Datsyuk, Miller, Samuelsson and Zetterberg missed the net 1 time.

Hits: Abdelkader and Cleary co-led the team with 4 hits; Bertuzzi had 3; Kindl, Miller, Helm, Ericsson and Franzen had 2; Datsyuk, Quincey and Kronwall had 1.

Giveaways: Kindl and Quincey had 2 giveaways; Datsyuk, Tatar, Samuelsson, Zetterberg, Bertuzzi and Ericsson had 1.

Takeaways: Miller had 2 takeaways; Kindl, Abdelkader, Datsyuk, Samuelsson, Zetterberg, Helm, Kronwall, DeKeyser and Franzen had 1.

Blocked opponent shots: Kronwall blocked 2 shots; Kindl, Lashoff, Helm, Bertuzzi and Ericsson blocked 1 shot.

Penalties taken: Kronwall took 2 minors; Lashoff and DeKeyser took 1 penalty.

Plus-minus: The Wings finished at -10. Datsyuk Quincey, Zetterberg and Bertuzzi were -2; Abdelkader, Ericsson, Kronwall and DeKeyser were -1; Kindl and Tatar were +1.

Points: Franzen had 2 goals and an assist for 3 points; DeKeyser had a goal and an assist for 2 points; Kindl had 2 assists; Tatar and Helm had 1 assist.

Ice time: DeKeyser led the Wings with 26:35 played; Kronwall played 24:41; Datsyuk played 24:37;

Zetterberg played 24:23; Quincey played 22:14; Ericsson played 20:20;

Kindl played 19:17; Franzen played 18:37; Bertuzzi played 18:28;

Helm played 17:51; Tatar played 15:59; Miller played 14:17;

Abdelkader played 14:14; Cleary played 13:59; Lashoff played 12:54;

Andersson played 12:23; Samuelsson played 11:01.

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Mandingo's avatar

They’re too old, too slow, and too soft.

After all these years, it’s finally true.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 11/15/13 at 10:27 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

Looked fast to me, hit hard. But they can’t win.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 11/15/13 at 10:40 PM ET

Mandingo's avatar

Looked like they were out-skated and out-muscled tonight to me. Played well in stretches, I guess.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 11/15/13 at 10:49 PM ET

calquake's avatar

No “skate to throat” mentality anymore.  They get a lead and hang on for dear life… almost always a losing proposition.

Posted by calquake on 11/15/13 at 10:49 PM ET

SK77's avatar

Think “skate to throat” was more an issue tonight versus being out-staked or out-muscled. Washington didn’t look like world beaters, but the Wings just didn’t deliver that knockout punch and let Washington slowly work their way back into it until the skills competition started. At this point the Wings were DOOMED.

Posted by SK77 on 11/15/13 at 10:52 PM ET

gowings's avatar

wow…..did not watch the game, but turned on NHL live….and see that it was in OT…I just turned off the TV….my husband asked if I wanted to see the final score…..I told him that was not necessary…..he looked anyway.Such the optimist. He told me that I could be an oiler fan instead and that could be worse…..

Any hope for a win tomorrow?

Posted by gowings from MTL on 11/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Any hope for a win tomorrow?

Posted by gowings from MTL on 11/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

The Wings have an excellent chance as long as the Islanders don’t score… but it will be close.

Posted by calquake on 11/15/13 at 11:01 PM ET

DocF's avatar

I tried my best.  I went shopping with dear wife rather than watch the game.  It obviously did not help one little bit.

The one game the Red Wings have looked good was against Colorado, a team that is on top of its game.  I wonder if everyone, including the coach is trying to phone in the games against lesser opponents?

Anyway, the way they keep score now, the fact that the Red Wings keep getting a point makes it likely that they will make the playoffs in some way, shape or fashion.  I have seen Carolina get in that way more than once.  However, that is not the Red Wing way.

I have no clue who or what will light a fire under the team.  I do know that it would be good if everyone would suddenly become healthy.

Like several of the posters here, I am beginning to think that Babcock has mishandled the goalies so far this year.  (I put this in primarily because I have to criticize Babcock in every post.)

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 11/15/13 at 11:01 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Looked fast to me, hit hard. But they can’t win.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 11/15/13 at 10:40 PM ET

Nobody outside of Ericsson or Bertuzzi was terribly physical.

I’m sorry George, I’ll say it again:  the answer is that this team isn’t very good.  This *is* the team.  It’s time to stop saying “But…”.  They are what they are.  They aren’t underachieving.  They aren’t “missing” an injured player terribly.  They aren’t “playing down” to competition.  There is no “switch” to flip.  They’re just not a very good team and they keep lucking into Loser Points they probably don’t deserve that are keeping them in the weak Eastern Conference race.

It’s time top stop being frustrated and expecting more from this group, because more is not coming.  Expecting more is honestly part of the problem at the moment:  DeKeyser leading all Wings in TOI speaks volumes.  A rookie is leading in TOI.  On the Red Wings.  This is what it has come to:  a rookie d-man is the most dependable/reliable guy in all situations.

We need to stop expecting more.

Posted by Primis on 11/15/13 at 11:03 PM ET

gowings's avatar

“The Wings have an excellent chance as long as the Islanders don’t score… but it will be close.”


Love it.

Posted by gowings from MTL on 11/15/13 at 11:04 PM ET

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The world of red wings past is indeed just that.  Through the well-intended but mistaken efforts of coach and GM the wings had a line of Clearly Sammy and Abe tonite. CANT COMPETE.      Too many bad signings to the exclusion of the young kids.  Long year ahead.

Posted by danhurleymd on 11/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 11/15/13 at 11:03 PM ET

Best critique I’ve read so far… but you forgot to criticize Holland and Babcock directly.

Posted by calquake on 11/15/13 at 11:10 PM ET

calquake's avatar

He told me that I could be an oiler fan instead and that could be worse…..

Not for long at the rate the Wings are going.

Posted by calquake on 11/15/13 at 11:20 PM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

Jimmy Howard received little support from his defense…

I’d love to have watched the game you did, George, because the one I watched had Howard flailing around like a chicken with its head cut off. If Ovechkin had been sharp tonight, he would have had a hat trick solely on open-net goals.

Yes, the Wings defensemen are young and, at times, prone to making dumb plays. An elite $5.3M-a year goalie could deal with that. Howard obviously can’t. And that’s never more clear than in the shootouts.

What I did enjoy in tonight’s game was the way Tatar lifted the play of Franzen. That line came very close to matching the intensity of Pavel, Hank and Bert. Maybe “Two Kids and a Mule” should stay together even after Alfredsson comes back.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 11/15/13 at 11:39 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Yes, the Wings defensemen are young and, at times, prone to making dumb plays. An elite $5.3M-a year goalie could deal with that. Howard obviously can’t. And that’s never more clear than in the shootouts.

Opponents being allowed to carry the puck untouched from the corner to the crease were a problem.  That happened on numerous occasions.  That’s not Howard’s fault.  There is no goalie in the league that’s going to weather that well.

The team is too often still a mess in their own zone.

Howard’s not perfect, he’s making some mistakes.  But seriously… he’s being absolutely hung out to dry still far too often.  The defense has actually gotten WORSE, not better.  He’s being hung out to dry more often than at the start of the season, or last year.  You want to know why he’s flailing around?  It’s because he has no real choice.

Posted by Primis on 11/15/13 at 11:58 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

No hanging this on Lashoff. Howard was out of control tonight, and everyone else is snake bit m

Posted by MoreShoot on 11/16/13 at 12:00 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

I’d love to have watched the game you did, George, because the one I watched had Howard flailing around like a chicken with its head cut off. If Ovechkin had been sharp tonight, he would have had a hat trick solely on open-net goals.

Yes, the Wings defensemen are young and, at times, prone to making dumb plays. An elite $5.3M-a year goalie could deal with that. Howard obviously can’t. And that’s never more clear than in the shootouts.

Agree. Howard was out of position and looked shakey. He is getting the big bucks and it’s high time he started earning his keep. The defense will improve over time. Howard’s time is now. He has much to prove to, and so far this season he has not played like he is getting paid to. I don’t know if he ever will. There are many things that need to be worked on but goaltending should not be one of them. 

He should be stealing games. That’s what elite goalies do. And, there is no point in even discussing Sammy or Cleary. Just because.

Let’s Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 11/16/13 at 12:04 AM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

Opponents being allowed to carry the puck untouched from the corner to the crease were a problem.

I agree. But that wasn’t the case on the first goal. Howard simply played it very poorly. And, in general, I think Howard goes down way too often and way too early. To me, he just doesn’t look like the “valiant” goaltender that George keeps describing.

The defense has actually gotten WORSE, not better.  He’s being hung out to dry more often than at the start of the season, or last year.

I’d actually agree with that too. But my point was that an elite goaltender, especially one making $5.3M a year, sometimes needs to “carry” his team. Right now, Howard’s not doing that. He’s as much a part of the problem as everyone else is.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 11/16/13 at 12:09 AM ET

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I agree. But that wasn’t the case on the first goal. Howard simply played it very poorly.

OK.  DET then took a 3-1 lead after that.  That goal was not the problem.  The other two goals were the problem.

Look this team is leaving guys like Ovechkin and Stamkos unattended.  What do they think will happen when they do that?  Nothing good.  This isn’t a case of where there’s just a little miscommunication or something, the team is letting known superstar snipers set up shop and fire away.  They’re superstars for a reason, they beat all goalies.  This is just one example of a myriad of the defensive problems they currently have.

But my point was that an elite goaltender, especially one making $5.3M a year, sometimes needs to “carry” his team. Right now, Howard’s not doing that. He’s as much a part of the problem as everyone else is.

Howard played that way last season, and the first part of this season.  To be honest, I think he’s losing some confidence through all this.  So I guess if that makes him a name worth naming for chief blame, so be it.  I don’t think he is or should be though.  Can he be a bit better?  Yes, probably.  Is that enough to help fix the team?  No, not even close right now.

I know everyone keeps harping on secondary scoring, blah blah blah…. fact is DET scored 3 tonight and still lost.  3 goals should be enough to win in this league with a competent defense.  If you have to score 4 or 5 every night to win, you won’t win many.

And the blueline isn’t solely to blame for poor play in their own end.

Posted by Primis on 11/16/13 at 12:33 AM ET

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Boy, we’re dramatic so far this season.

Losing a bunch of shootouts 20 games into the season isn’t enough for me to just throw my hands in the air and go “OH WELL, THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS”.

Mainly since shootouts aren’t in the playoffs…

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 11/16/13 at 12:47 AM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

OK.  DET then took a 3-1 lead after that.  That goal was not the problem.  The other two goals were the problem.

But without that first goal, Detroit wins 3-2. Right? Although, with all of the open nets that the Caps missed because Howie was flailing around, they still could have lost 5-3.

Howard played that way last season, and the first part of this season.  To be honest, I think he’s losing some confidence through all this.

And I think you’re absolutely right about the “confidence” thing. Ozzie mentioned tonight that Howard has been taking every goal scored on him too seriously. That wasn’t the case before.

One of the things I like about Mrazek is that everyone says he’s extremely calm and “lets go” of bad goals almost immediately. I just wonder how he’s ever going to get a real chance in Detroit with Howard having another five years on his contract. I really wish it was for no more than three additional years. But it is what it is.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 11/16/13 at 01:17 AM ET

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Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 11/16/13 at 12:47 AM ET

They’re also 1-3 in OT.

Why is it comforting that they can’t score enough to win in regulation (apparently only one line is allowed to score per game), the can’t win in overtime OR the shootout?

Posted by Garth on 11/16/13 at 01:30 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

it’s high time he started earning his keep.

lol

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/16/13 at 09:28 AM ET

Tracy from T-Town Hockey 's avatar

Any hope for a win tomorrow?

With Gus in net perhaps, will depend if he is any better than Jimmy at shoot outs.

Posted by Tracy from T-Town Hockey on 11/16/13 at 11:22 AM ET

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And I think you’re absolutely right about the “confidence” thing. Ozzie mentioned tonight that Howard has been taking every goal scored on him too seriously. That wasn’t the case before.

Hard for a goalie to not blame himself when we are losing in shootouts.  Those goals are squarely on him.  I agree he has been hung out to dry on many a goal in regulation this year, but he has been far from perfect.
I think it goes back to what someone on here said before, guys are trying to do too much themselves and not relying on their teammates to be where they should be, Howard included.  He is swimming in net at times because he can’t rely on his d-men to cover there respective guys accordingly.
Side note: I did like the Tatar and Franzen duo and hope they get to stay together at least another game or two.  I want to see if that’s what caused Mule to play so well or if it was just one of those rare nights when he decides to play like we all know he can.

Posted by Tracy from T-Town Hockey on 11/16/13 at 11:45 AM ET

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With Gus in net perhaps, will depend if he is any better than Jimmy at shoot outs.

Posted by Tracy from T-Town Hockey on 11/16/13 at 11:22 AM

Guess he’s the same

Posted by Tracy from T-Town Hockey on 11/17/13 at 12:25 PM ET

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