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Red Wings-Canadiens quick take: hose job

What a *#$%@& unbelievable load of shit.

[edit/update: Here are the standings, and Babcock didn't bite at all on controversy on FSD, saying that the Wings weren't good enough in giving up 5 goals and that Gustavsson didn't get breaks but has to be better, Babcock said that the Wings have to regroup and get back at 'er, that was it:

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The Detroit Red Wings pulled a game out of their asses, rallying from a 3-0 deficit to tie the Montreal Canadiens in the third period, and the game was absolutely GIVEN to the Canadiens thanks to a play in which Brian Gionta was probably offsides skating into the zone, and then the 5-3 goal..

The Jets did the Wings a favor by beating Toronto, but now both New Jersey and Columbus are close behind the Wings, and they're behind the Wings because Brad Watson and company absolutely blew goats en route to assuring that the Wings lost.

Do the Wings bear the responsibility of showering the Canadiens with easy shots for Carey Price and playing cute-it-out on the power play? Yes, but then the team displayed REMARKABLE resiliency only to fall because the officiating--all night long--was rabbit-ears happy for Les Habitants and their faithful fans.

I am so utterly disgusted by this game that I am physically restraining myself from saying what I really think. You discuss, I'll post goals and stats, because I am too angry to carry on.

The Wings couldn't or wouldn't defend throughout the first and second periods. Michal Bournival scored an easy goal at 14:16, capitalizing off of a brutal line change and a stupid pass from Jakub Kindl...

Max Pacioretty blew by Brian Lashoff--who was utterly horrific--8:52 into the 2nd, just after the Wings did nothing with a 5-on-3...

And Brian Gionta scored on what was just awful coverage by Quincey and DeKeyser at 13:35 of the 2nd...

But Datsyuk started the rally a little over 5 minutes into the 3rd via a Kronwall bounce off the back boards on the power play (and a play started by Franzen, who didn't get an assist)...

Luke Glendening FINALLY SCORED HIS FIRST GOAL some 36 seconds later thanks to Abdelkader and Miller's efforts...

Niklas Kronwall's game-tying goal was absolutely elegant, through a double screen in Gustav Nyquist and David Legwand with 9:26 left...

And then Brian Gionta walks into the zone NOT IN CONTROL of the puck, skates first, and of course Brian Lashoff doesn't take him, and as the Habs go to the net, Brian Lashoff literally runs Gustavsson over--and Gustavsson wasn't very good on the goals against--giving the Habs a 4-3 lead with 6:47 left...

Then the dagger came thanks to the Kid Line not defending a rush well, KINDL AND LASHOFF watching the Habs rim the puck around, and Alex Galchenyuk skating into the crease on his own--and then putting the puck in off his arm. The refs viewed the contact with Gustavsson as legal and they viewed the arm deflection, which was purposeful, legal, with 4:20 left.

It was a 4-20 kind of night as the Canadiens hooked, held, grabbed, groped, cross-checked and mashed faces, and the fact that Andrei Markov sat on Gustav Nyquist and Alexei Emelin (a chicken shit player and a half) went jousting with Tomas Jurco late? Oh, sure, that was all fine, if only offsetting in the later case.

This is just gross. GROSS.

 

Statistics:

Shots 37-26 Detroit overall. Detroit was out-shot 13-10 in the 1st period but out-shot Montreal 15-4 in the 2nd and 12-9 in the 3rd.

Special teams: Detroit went 2-for-5 in 7:58 of PP time; Montreal went 0-for-3 in 6:00.

Goaltending: Jonas Gustavsson stopped 21 of 26 shots for Detroit; Carey Price stopped 34 of 37 for Montreal.

RDS picked the 3 stars, and they picked Niklas Kronwall, Carey Price and Brian Gionta.

The Red Wings' goals: Datsyuk (16) from Kronwall (40) and Franzen (23), PPG:

Glendening (1) from Abdelkader (18) and Miller (7);

Kronwall (8) from Franzen (24) and Nyquist (19), PPG.

Faceoffs 30-26 Detroit (Detroit won 54%);

Blocked shots 18-12 Montreal;

Missed shots 12-5 Detroit (attempts 67-42 Detroit; Detroit had 37 shots on Price and 30 attempts wide/blocked);

Hits 19-13 Montreal;

Giveaways 9-3 Montreal;

Takeaways 9-7 Montreal.

Individual stats:

Faceoffs: Datsyuk went 10-and-10 (50%); Glendening went 6-and-6 (50%); Legwand went 4-and-4 (50%); Helm went 6-and-0 (100%); Sheahan went 1-and-4 (20%); Franzen went 1-and-1 (50%); Tatar went 1-and-1 (50%); Abdelkader won his only faceoff.

Shots: Kronwall led the Wings with 7 shots; Franzen had 6; Smith, Legwand and Tatar had 3; Abdelkader, Nyquist, Sheahan, Helm and DeKeyser had 2; Kindl, Quincey and Glendening had 1 shot.

Blocked attempts: Franzen had 4 more attempts blocked; Smith, Alfredsson, Datsyuk, Legwand and Tatar had 2 attempts blocked; Nyquist, Miller, Jurco and Kronwall had 1 attempt blocked.

Missed shots: Alfredsson and Tatar missed the net 3 times; Franzen missed the net 2 times; Nyquist, Sheahan, Kronwall and DeKeyser missed the net 1 time.

Hits: Miller and Kronwall had 2 hits; Smith, Kindl, Abdelkader, Alfredsson, Tatar, Jurco, Quincey, Glendening and Helm had 1 hit.

Giveaways: Kronwall had 2 giveaways; Legwand had 1.

Takeaways: Smith, Abdelkader, Datsyuk, Tatar, Quincey and Kronwall had 1 takeaway.

Blocked opponent shots: Miller blocked 3 shots; Lashoff and Glendening blocked 2 shots; Smith, Kindl, Jurco, Quincey and Helm blocked 1 shot.

Penalties taken: Smith, Kindl, Jurco and Glendening took minor penalties.

Plus-minus: The Wings finished at -20. Lashoff was -3; Kindl, Datsyuk, Kronwall and Franzen were -2; Abdelkader, Alfredsson, Nyquist, Sheahan, Legwand, Miller, Tatar, Quincey, Helm and DeKeyser were -1; Smith ended up at +1.

Points: Kronwall had a goal and an assist for 2 points; Datsyuk and Glendening had goals; Abdelkader, Nyquist, Miller and Franzen had assists.

Ice time: Kronwall led the team with 24:44 played; DeKeyser played 24;24; Quincey played 21:34;

Franzen played 19:32; Nyquist played 19:20; Datsyuk played 17:41;

Smith played 17:29; Helm played 15:16; Alfredsson played 15:11;

Legwand played 14:53; Jurco played 14:29; Sheahan played 14:13;

Miller played 13:21; Tatar played 13:15; Glendening played 13:06;

Abdelkader played 12:31; Kindl played 12:04; Lashoff played 11:39.

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aerodude's avatar

Brad Watson + NHLNET coverage = I don’t watch.

Posted by aerodude on 04/05/14 at 10:01 PM ET

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Brian Gionta was probably offsides skating into the zone

No probably about it George, he was offsides.

Per Rule 83.1 Off-side

...a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the blue line.

Gionta’s skates were clearly over the blue line before he had control, so it doesn’t matter that he actually brought the puck in with control.  Should have been blown and I wonder if the linesman didn’t even consider the part of the rule I put in bold, because it was really obvious.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 04/05/14 at 10:02 PM ET

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Who cares. It was shitty shot easy stop.  Another Lashoff brainfart. Another crazy rebound by a shakey looking goaltender.  Wings played like shit and got what they deser be d for playing a periods worth of 60.  Let it go and move on to Tue next.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 04/05/14 at 10:06 PM ET

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I was watching the CBC feed and even the Canadian announcers (Garry Galley was a crazy homer for Montreal the entire game) couldn’t really justify either third period goal being good.

It was shitty shot easy stop.

It doesn’t matter, he shouldn’t have been able to take any shot whatsoever,

Posted by Garth on 04/05/14 at 10:09 PM ET

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I am physically restraining myself from saying what I really think

Why?

Posted by Garth on 04/05/14 at 10:10 PM ET

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I don’t want to say anything “stupid” here, but the better team won tonight, the better goalie won, the team with a much better record won that has a positive goals scored to allowed ratio to our dismal more goals allowed than scored overall for the season.
Yeah the officiating was gross but hey this is the NHL which unlike MLB has no interest in getting it right.
I said it better and I’ll say it again, Red Wings are skilled but all skill and almost no toughness will equal early exits in the playoffs or no playoffs at all. They rarely finish checks or move anyone out of the crease.
To bad we can’t go back to loading our roster full of All-Stars again because then we could win with all skaters and skill but now 2014 cap NHL no chance.
At least we didn’t lose another Red Wing to injury tonight or did we.
Just glad Jurco didn’t ‘get injured at the end there getting assaulted.
Another game getting manhandled which Chicago did last year in playoffs when they came roaring back to win and advance.

 

Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 04/05/14 at 10:10 PM ET

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They shouldn’t have mailed in the first and second periods then.  Isn’t breaking news NHL officiating isn’t close to decent so why sandbag then cry foul cause u decide u finally want to play

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 04/05/14 at 10:14 PM ET

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The Habs were by no means better in terms of oversell control and possession ut, thanks to three or four brain cramps, we handed them all of their goals. However, the horrible officiating…the off-side non call. and the no interference call, led directly to the Habs win.

The part that I agree with you on is that the better goaltender won…while his team had the officials handing them the game.

Also, do agree with you on the need for a little more toughness. These hits, especially the one on Jurco, were blatant interference hits and it was going on all night.

However, the Wings need to take control of their own destiny in these games and stop handing gifts to opponents.

Posted by NewfieWing on 04/05/14 at 10:19 PM ET

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6 tards and two zebras beats 5 Wings every time.

Thanks Gary. Ass.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 04/05/14 at 10:21 PM ET

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Looks onside to me.

Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 10:34 PM ET

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“However, a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the blue line.”

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26497

Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 10:51 PM ET

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Refs are also good on Montreal’s fifth goal, too. Hardly anything there, and Kindl had just as much to do with it as the Montreal player.

Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 10:55 PM ET

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Just came back from the game…

My observation…we really sucked….and don’t look on the shots on net because most of these shots were really easy to stop by Price. We sucked….I wished I was home…humiliating…we got out muscled and also out zebras…..officiating was really bad…the guys sitting next to us even admitted it….

But hey….I managed to get my autograph from Babs….he looked so concentrated before the game he did not even want to sign my book at first…got lucky, but the people behind me were not…he was in the stands during warm up and making possible line changes (you should see that notebook….the man clearly does his homework even if we doubt it sometimes)

Hope we can do better next time….this was crushing :(

Posted by gowings from MTL on 04/05/14 at 10:58 PM ET

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coming across as a big-time crybaby, malik.

the wings did not deserve to win that game.

Posted by THRILLHO on 04/05/14 at 11:00 PM ET

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The issue involves whether Gionta had sustained control of the puck over the blueline, not just possession. You can possess the puck and not control it and be called offsides.

Also: Big whoop, Thrillho. It’s my blog and I can cry when I want to.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/05/14 at 11:03 PM ET

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Crying is right…

Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 11:10 PM ET

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coming across as a big-time crybaby, malik.

the wings did not deserve to win that game.

Posted by THRILLHO on 04/05/14 at 11:00 PM ET

Created an account just to post that?  Congrats at finally winning at life.  oh oh

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 04/05/14 at 11:11 PM ET

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Posted by THRILLHO on 04/05/14 at 11:12 PM ET

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Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 10:51 PM ET

Thanks for pointing out the rule because he absolutely, 100% did not have control of the puck as he feet crossed the blue line.

Kindl had just as much to do with it as the Montreal player.

It’s not Kindl’s job to make sure the Montreal player doesn’t run into the goalie, it’s the Montreal players.

Go ahead though, pretend that he couldn’t possibly have avoided contact because Kindl was just allllllllll over him.

Posted by Garth on 04/05/14 at 11:15 PM ET

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Posted by THRILLHO on 04/05/14 at 11:12 PM ET

You’re the coolest person ever!  Can we be friends?

Posted by Garth on 04/05/14 at 11:17 PM ET

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is there even roster room available to call up someone to play INSTEAD of 4 or 23? i mean do you think a Sproul could be WORSE?

Posted by brians neck on 04/05/14 at 11:18 PM ET

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Find me definitive evidence that he lost control of the puck before it was in the zone. I’ll be waiting.

Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 11:21 PM ET

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He drags the puck into the zone. Looks fine here.

Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 11:26 PM ET

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I need not wait because your interpretation as to whether he was actually in control of the puck will probably change when mine does. I also congratulate both of you on joining KK to simply weigh in on this manner.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/05/14 at 11:28 PM ET

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Find me definitive evidence that he lost control of the puck before it was in the zone. I’ll be waiting.

Posted by fromdowntown on 04/05/14 at 11:21 PM ET

For me it’s not a question of whether he controlled the puck across the blue line, because I thought he did.  It didn’t look to me, on my DVR slowmo that he got complete control of the puck until both feet were across the line, which makes the play offside even though he controlled the puck across the blue line.  The picture you posted in an earlier shows Gionta making initial contact with the puck, but touching the puck doesn’t equal controlling the puck.  It was a ridiculously close call that 999 times out of 1000 the linesman errs on the side of the defending team, yet here and last game between the Habs and Wings the linesman erred on the side of the offensive team (Montreal) and the Habs scored seconds later both times for the game-winning goal.  It’s annoying and frustrating.  Call it whining if you want, doesn’t change what happened.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 04/05/14 at 11:29 PM ET

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“I am so utterly disgusted by this game that I am physically restraining myself from saying what I really think.”

...

“sorry, no *#$%@& given here”

lol…nice try, bud.

Posted by THRILLHO on 04/05/14 at 11:30 PM ET

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No *#$%@& given as to your opinion, good troll.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/05/14 at 11:32 PM ET

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*Looks in contract for having to give a *#$%@& what trolls think of opinion*

*Looks in contract for having to change opinion based upon what others say*

*Keeps looking*

*Keeps looking*

*Reads fine print*

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/05/14 at 11:37 PM ET

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Now back to the Saturday night movie Troll Hard 2: Troll Harder.

Posted by maltby18 on 04/05/14 at 11:44 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

The legendary kuklas korner.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 04/05/14 at 11:47 PM ET

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Nice “Spaceballs” reference, George.

Posted by RedMenace from the Church of Jesus Lashoff on 04/06/14 at 12:02 AM ET

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More of those sour grapes, George? The Wings waltzed through 2 periods tonight. Seemed shocked that they were behind .. actually put some effort into playing the game (maybe ate that proverbial can of spinach) and came out flying and acting like they cared .. actually tied the game up. Gave up another sloppy goal and then quit again. You get what you work for. If they really want to make Kenny Holland a hero again (by making the playoffs - his only admitted target for success) then they need to put out 3 periods of solid effort. Not a stinker like this one was. You can blame it on the zebras or those Habs thugs but the real blame is in the Red Wing locker room. Look in the mirror, boys.

Posted by RocketSurgeon on 04/06/14 at 12:03 AM ET

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I think both cross-eyed (lines clowns) was from Canada ?? nuff said !!

Posted by Gary A$$ SUCK !! from Fort Myers, Florida on 04/06/14 at 12:07 AM ET

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did ya’s expect anything different with Watson as ref?  suck it Bettman and your little dog too

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan hometown of Abdelkader on 04/06/14 at 12:33 AM ET

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I need not wait because your interpretation as to whether he was actually in control of the puck will probably change when mine does. I also congratulate both of you on joining KK to simply weigh in on this manner.

you tell em George :-D

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan hometown of Abdelkader on 04/06/14 at 12:38 AM ET

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If these two teams end up facing each other in the play-offs, it’ll be a very entertaining series.  Our match-ups aren’t dull.

I admit to having such a strong sense of “This is not a good game for us.  I truly feel like we’re not getting a point out of this.” after the 1st period, I actually watched most of the 3rd in FF, so while I saw one of the goals was reviewed, I didn’t really see the controversial stuff.

Perhaps Coach Babs should try using his 2nd Intermission speech before the games…

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 04/06/14 at 12:53 AM ET

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Am I the only one who is starting to feel like we should have a review “warzone” outside of Canada? It’s one thing to blow a call, it’s another to blow it after reviewing it.

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 04/06/14 at 01:38 AM ET

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I knew officiating would be bad from the first penalty call. I disagreed with every penalty call except a couple. The linesmen weren’t better. Both teams got away with a handful of blatant offsides but didn’t score on those

The Red Wings have officially started a new streak (3 consecutive games) of only playing one period or less

The tendency of giving up third period goals continues. I think they have allowed at least 1 third period goal in all but 1 game since the olympics

On the bright side, the penalty killing was good (up to 3 games since the olympics without allowing a PPG I think)

Posted by bleep bloop on 04/06/14 at 01:58 AM ET

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These trolls aren’t even original. Where’s the quality these days? Lazy SOBs…

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 04/06/14 at 02:30 AM ET

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These trolls aren’t even original. Where’s the quality these days? Lazy SOBs…

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 04/06/14 at 02:30 AM ET

I blame the internet…...wait…..that might not make sense…..

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 04/06/14 at 03:16 AM ET

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