Kukla's Korner

The Malik Report

Red Wings-Bruins Game 4 quick take: adrenaline takes you only so far

Henrik Zetterberg came back. Pavel Datsyuk worked his ass off. But the Detroit Red Wings blew a 2-0 lead to the Boston Bruins, were out-shot 12-3 in OT, and this happened:

Faceoff loss by Glendening, Bruins go D to D, Krejci to Hamilton, Hamilton shoots...And the puck goes off Glendening's stick near the blueline, Iginla tips the puck, and it goes off Danny DeKeyser's skate...And past Jonas Gustavsson at 13:32 of Ot.

TRIPLE DEFLECTION.

NO CHANCE FOR Gustavsson, who started in Jimmy Howard (flu's) stead.

3-2 Boston in OT, Bruins up 3-1, last game of the season very possibly on Saturday at 3 PM on NBC.

Discuss.

I don't know what to say about this one. Henrik Zetterberg made the old Miraculous Comeback and he was WONDERFUL as someone not playing at anything more than Datsyuk-esque 75% could be...

The Wings rode adrenaline through a first period in which they out-shot the Bruins 15-5, and baby daddy Niklas Kronwall scored on a lovely power play play by Pavel Datsyuk 11 minutes in...

4:27 into the 2nd, Datsyuk scored an empty-netter thanks to a gorgeous, gorgeous play by Kronwall and wonderful work by Justin Abdelkader, who, like Todd Bertuzzi, went to the front of the net and stayed there all night long...

But the Wings exhausted themselves in the 1st and 2nd, and when they took a penalty, Luke Glendening lost the draw--he lost draws all night long--and Torey Krug found a blueline rocket through traffic at 10:14 of the 2nd...

1:15 into the 3rd, Gustav Nyquist received a devasating lesson as the Bruins' Dougie Hamilton chipped the puck into the zone, both Jakub Kindl and Brian Lashoff ignored the dump-in, and Nyquist gave up on his check, letting Milan Lucic tie the game...

And with no secondary scoring--the Kid Line has been invisible (Tatar and Sheahan look like hot messes), Nyquist has been invisible, Legwand's fallen off the face of the earth, Franzen's been awful, DeKeyser, Smith, Kronwall and Quincey have had no support on defense and no hands from Miller, Glendening, and, regrettably, the blazing Helm...

What can you do when you stop skating through the neutral zone with speed and start letting the Boston Bruins roar into the offensive zone and cycle?

Get out-shot 12-3 in OT and give up that devastating triple deflection.

What do the Wings need to do if Saturday's game is the last of 13-14?

Address the gaping holes on defense. Bring back Alfie. Get healthy.

Maybe it is time to buy out Franzen. It is, regrettably, time to let Bertuzzi walk, as well as Cleary/Samuelsson/etc., and then?

Look for a forward perhaps, but worry about defense first and foremost. And make sure to make room for the next wave.

Let kids steal jobs in training camp.

And hope they have learned from this. Hope they have learned and that they will be better, the kids, the vets, everyone in between, but especially the Nyquists, Sheahans, Jurcos, Tatars, Smiths, DeKeysers, and the vets too..

This is a brutal, brutal learning experience. I am heartbroken for my Wings. But I believe they will give the Bruins a hard go on Saturday, and I believe they will come back next year a better and deeper team.

And in the interim?

Why the F*CK NOT believe in the miraculous comeback?

What's it hurt? Nothin.'

[update: Also: What do the Wings do about their goaltending? Give Mrazek one more year in GR or let him challenge Howard. Pick one. /update]

Tweets:

 

Me:

Z on FSD: It was a step forward from the last two games despite the disappointing end, they got the lead got the 2nd one they knew it was gonna be tight against a very good team, they still got it to OT it was a one-shot game and they got it in the end.

Obviously they took over the momentum for a while in the 2nd and in the 3rd the Wings fought back a little better and got the puck in the B's end, they have to keep it simple and not make mistakes in the neutral zone in a series like this.

That's playoff goals right there, throwing pucks, it's so tight in front of goalies, you have to go there and hope for bounces and second chances, and that's it.

Did he give the team a lift? It was fun to be back but it would be a lot more fun to get the W, he will go home and rest and be prepared for the next game. He felt he played OK.

He says the legs were good in the 1st not so good in the 2nd he got short shifts later but that's what had to happen in the 1st game.

 

Babs on the radio, says he felt the PP was good and the Wings were dangerous early but as the game went on they weren't dangerous anymore, whether they had a lot of good players especially the young guys who were dressed but didn't have good games.

When did he know Jimmy couldn't go, is he available? Gus played good so they'll decide on that, he'd filled out the starting lineup when the refs came over to him and said he's got the wrong goalie circled and he said he knew, it was last second, he couldn't go.

Was it a sudden flu for Howard? Well yeah, they just came and told him he was sick and couldn't go.

See you guys.

That was the 2nd half of the presser.

 

Kronwall on FSD: Kronwall says the Wings have to keep it simpler that's how you win at playoff time and they have to create more chances you can't defend...They have nothing to lose on Saturday, clean up the areas they need to clean up they have nothing to lose.

He says that yes there are some players who are vets who have to do a better job in the series [but youth is a factor]

He feels that Z was awesome, he's their leader their captain he was great out there, but he's been out for two months and he was still one of their best players, that says a lot about him as a player and person.

Monster was huge for them he came up huge at times gave them a chance and he feels bad they couldn't do it for him but he was excellent.

He says the triple deflection, that's how it goes, it's not pretty passing plays it's going to be a dirty one a greasy one and they have to find a way to get those plays.

Kronwall on his son Douglas' birth: was a big day for he and his girl and it's something he won't forget, he rushed out of there and got there just in time to be there and holding his son for the first time it's pretty special, he was born at 11:30.

Statistics:

Shots 40-37 Boston overall. Detroit out-shot Boston 15-5 in the 1st period, they were out-shot 12-7 in the 2nd, the Wings out-shot Boston 12-11 in the 3rd and the Wings were out-shot 12-3 in OT.

Special teams: Detroit went 1-for-4 in 4:17 of PP time; Boston went 1-for-2 in 2:11.

Goaltending: Jonas Gustavsson stopped 37 of 40 for Detroit; Tuuka Rask stopped 35 of 37 for Boston.

The 3 stars were picked by USA Today's Kevin Allen, and he picked Patrice Bergeron, Pavel Datsyuk and Jarome Iginla.

The Red Wings' goals: Kronwall (1) from Datsyuk (1), PPG;

Datsyuk (2) from Kronwall (1) and Abdelkader (1).

Faceoffs 32-27 Boston (Detroit won 46%);

Blocked shots 26-13 Detroit;

Missed shots 13-11 Detroit;

Total attempts 77-63 Boston: the Bruins had 40 shots on net and 37 wide/blocked; the Wings had 37 shots on net and 26 wide/blocked.

Hits 54-40 Detroit;

Giveaways 8-1 Detroit;

Takeaways 3-0 Detroit.

Individual stats:

Faceoffs: Datsyuk went 11-and-7 (61%); Sheahan went 7-and-9 (44%); Helm went 8-and-5 (62%); Glendening went 1-and-8 (11%); Legwand went 0-and-2; Zetterberg went 0-and-1.

Shots: Tatar led the team with 8 shots; Datsyuk had 5; Smith, Kindl, Abdelkader, Quincey, Helm and Kronwall had 3; Franzen had 2; Nyquist, Legwand, Zetterberg and Glendening had 1.

Blocked attempts: Franzen hit Bruins players 3 times; Quincey and Kronwall had 2 attempts blocked; Smith, Kindl, Abdelkader, Datsyuk, Lashoff and DeKeyser had 1 attempt blocked.

Missed shots: Glendening missed the net 3 times; Zetterberg, Helm, Kronwall and Franzen missed the net 2 times; Smith and Nyquist missed the net 1 time.

Hits: Abdelkader led the Wings with 8 hits; Miller, Helm and Bertuzzi had 6; Smith had 4; Datsyuk, Quincey and Glendening had 3; Kindl, Tatar, Zetterberg, DeKeyser and Franzen had 2; Nyquist and Kronwall had 1.

Giveaways: 1 apiece for Smith, Kindl, Datsyuk, Miller, Tatar, Quincey, Zetterberg and DeKeyser.

Takeaways: Miller had 2 takeaways; Datsyuk had 1 takeaway.

Blocked opponent shots: DeKeyser blocked 9 shots; Kronwall blocked 7 shots; Smith, Kindl, Abdelkader, Datsyuk, Nyquist, Lashoff and Quincey blocked 1 shot.

Penalties taken: Smith, Abdelkader and Bertuzzi took minor penalties.

Plus-minus: The Wings finished at -5. Smith, Abdelkader, Datsyuk and Zetterberg finished at +1; Kindl, Nyquist, Legwand, Miller, Lashoff, Glendening, Helm, DeKeyser and Franzen finished at -1.

Points: Kronwall and Datsyuk had 1 goal and 1 assist apiece for 2 points; Abdelkader had an assist.

Ice time: Kronwall led the team with 29:33 played; DeKeyser played 26:56; Quincey played 26:03;

Smith played 25:03; Datsyuk played 22:27; Kindl played 21:13;

Franzen played 20:45; Helm played 20:19; Zetterberg played 19:34;

Miller played 19:27; Abdelkader played 18:32; Glendening played 18:02;

Nyquist played 17:14; Legwand played 16:35; Sheahan played 16:27;

Lashoff played 16:01; Tatar played 14:41; Bertuzzi played 12:50.

Filed in: | The Malik Report | Permalink
 

Comments

Avatar

So funny to compare Wings fans after game 1 to now. False sense of confidence. suckers.

Posted by redwingshomersLOL on 04/24/14 at 11:18 PM ET

aerodude's avatar

If they wouldn’t have shit the bed in game 3 this loss wouldn’t have stung so much.

They scored more than 1 goal though, so brownie points I guess.

Posted by aerodude on 04/24/14 at 11:20 PM ET

Avatar

Uh, it wasn’t false. The Wings DID win Game 1, buddy.

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 04/24/14 at 11:20 PM ET

Avatar

We did the best we can, Boston is just a better team. Proud of the effort, Gus was great. We could lead 3:0 after one. Boston was allowed to stay in the game (mostly because of Rask) and in the last 30 minute plus OT showed why they are the favourite to win the Cup.
2 goals deflected by our own players, that happens too often to us.

Posted by VPalmer on 04/24/14 at 11:23 PM ET

Primis's avatar

What can you do when you stop skating through the neutral zone with speed and start letting the Boston Bruins roar into the offensive zone and cycle?

Bingo.  Once again the Wings STOPPED doing what was working.  I just don’t get it.  I really don’t.  They do it, they get rewarded, and then they stop.  By now it’s pretty clear that if the Wings press the speed through the neutral zone, BOS doesn’t handle it well.  It absolutely boggles the mind.

Posted by Primis on 04/24/14 at 11:24 PM ET

Primis's avatar

2 goals deflected by our own players, that happens too often to us.

Posted by VPalmer on 04/24/14 at 11:23 PM ET

Those happen when you spend too much time in your own zone and give u too many shots.  Plain and simple.

Posted by Primis on 04/24/14 at 11:25 PM ET

NIVO's avatar

I thought Monster played great, but his coming so far out of the net to cut down angles ALWAYS scares the piss out of me. Well do or die Saturday for sure now.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 04/24/14 at 11:28 PM ET

Jaromir Blogger's avatar

Bingo.  Once again the Wings STOPPED doing what was working.  I just don’t get it.  I really don’t.  They do it, they get rewarded, and then they stop.  By now it’s pretty clear that if the Wings press the speed through the neutral zone, BOS doesn’t handle it well.  It absolutely boggles the mind.

I agree. I don’t get it. What is going on with this team mentally that they have massive confidence and competence swings like that?

Posted by Jaromir Blogger on 04/24/14 at 11:28 PM ET

Primis's avatar

I agree. I don’t get it. What is going on with this team mentally that they have massive confidence and competence swings like that?

Posted by jaromirblogger on 04/24/14 at 11:28 PM ET

I’m still not convinced they’re honestly not doing what they’re instructed to.  I never see Babcock on the bench yelling at them to push it, move it, or anything,  He seems content with them sitting back and working methodically.

Posted by Primis on 04/24/14 at 11:32 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

They stopped skating midway thru the second. Game. Set. Match to be played on Saturday…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the pre-season shuffle.... on 04/24/14 at 11:49 PM ET

Jaromir Blogger's avatar

I’m still not convinced they’re honestly not doing what they’re instructed to.  I never see Babcock on the bench yelling at them to push it, move it, or anything,  He seems content with them sitting back and working methodically.

I obviously don’t know what’s going on with this team. I am not in the locker room or on the bench (obviously). But it just feels like, for several years, they have lacked leadership and/or the maturity to follow it. This isn’t a knock on Zetterberg, Babcock, Lidstrom (yeah, I think it started after they won the Cup in 2008), but something just feels strange with them. The team appears to have lacked confidence for years now. At this point, it may just be the unfortunate result of having so much youth in the lineup (a LOT of youth), but it needs to change as they strive to become Cup contenders again (which I think they will be able to do in the next few years).

Posted by Jaromir Blogger on 04/24/14 at 11:56 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

The hard part is that this is, to a large extent, not Franzen’s fault—it’s the fault of “the kids,” it’s on people like Nyquist, Sheahan, Tatar, Jurco, Glendening, Lashoff, Kindl, and even DeKeyser, and what can you really do?

Address the holes on defense and hope that the kids learn.

This will probably be the Joe’s last game of its second-to-last season and it will probably be Ken and Mick’s last game until September.

We need to cherish what we got. This team made the playoffs despite itself.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/24/14 at 11:58 PM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

Mike Babcock said he thought Jonas Gustavsson played well so undecided about who starts Game 5 as of now. Jimmy Howard had flu.

Let’s be honest about this.  Howard was in the toilet puking his guts out at the thought of facing Boston again. As Ken and Mickey pointed out this was at least the third time Howard has gotten “sick” before a playoff game. I just hope he stays “sick” for the next four years.

As far as the game tonight, I thought it was a solid effort. I really have no complaints about anyone. I’ll even give Bert the nod of approval he deserves, and I’ll go on record as saying I’d much rather see him back than either Franzen or Legwand next year.

So, in the end, the young guys will get at least one more game of playoff experience, and then it’ll be up to Holland to find a quality puck-moving defenseman and a legitimate power forward this summer. How he does that will go a long way toward determining whether or not he really is the “best GM in hockey.”

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 04/24/14 at 11:59 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

I don’t agree with the criticism of Babcock at all. From what the players have stated—especially the young ones—he’s been incredibly helpful, encouraging, a great bench boss and a great motivator.

The game got away from the players on the ice, but the team “started on time” and there’s only so much a coach can do.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/24/14 at 11:59 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

The press release I had said the Wings will practice at 12 and travel at 3. I’d imagine that Boston’s flying home tonight.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/25/14 at 12:00 AM ET

Avatar

Babcock is a great motivator and I admire his positivity, but I think he overcoached a little tonight. I understand he wanted our 4th line to match up with Krejci line, but 18-19 minutes for Miller and Glendening is too much.
Also Legwand is not a 4th line player, he was Nashiville’s leading scorer and he had god chemistry with Franzen and Nyquist down the stretch. Not sure why they were not put together at any time during this series. But overall I agree the coach can do only so much and we did play well. A lot of teams played well against Detroit in the late 90s, but it was not enough.
Summer will be interesting, maybe. I hope KH will not trade all our youth for a marginal improvement on defense.

Posted by VPalmer on 04/25/14 at 12:17 AM ET

Avatar

Anyone heard if they caught the sniper that shot Charra in the second?  cheese

Anyway, like everyone’s been saying the Wings stopped pushing and were on their heels too much the latter half of the game.  Just didn’t play good enough to overcome bad bounces and another game of poor officiating.  Play better and those things don’t matter.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 04/25/14 at 12:29 AM ET

Avatar

It is obvious that there are gaps and some of the youth are on a steep learning curve. In a way, we should be grateful they have gotten this far….given the vast number of injuries and the struggle to get into the playoffs.

I was hopeful at the start of this series, and remain hopeful, but realistically it does not look good for this team right now. However, as they continue to evolve, the young talent will start to win games.

In this series, too much hooking and holding, physical play that was allowed to go on, cross checks to the head not called, these were contributing factors…but the Wings had no answer. The problem with responding in kind is that the officiating is a crap shoot and they will call some while letting teams who regularly employ these tactics to continue doing it. Boston gets the benefit of the doubt many times and gets away with outright thuggery.

One thing the Bruins do well is support each other on the puck. In their own zone, one guy plays the man with the puck, the other takes it away and it’s out of the zone. The Wings, in the offensive zone, usually have single player against two or more…that’s losing hockey. And, by the way, the Bruins have no qualms about dropping the puck carrier to the ice while the Wings seem tentative and scared of getting called for a penalty.  The Bruins almost always get away with that so I keep wondering why the Wings fail to do the same…and it is more than about size.

Posted by NewfieWing on 04/25/14 at 12:31 AM ET

Avatar

Brendan smith has really shown me a lot this playoff series thus far.  From his grit and competitiveness in going after Chara to his puck rushes and heady defensive plays.  I hope this is something that he can build off of.  Playing with kronwall has really helped Smiths game.

Posted by bababooey on 04/25/14 at 12:37 AM ET

silversailer's avatar

Let Mrazek back up next year and maybe push both himself and Howie to be better. Maybe he can show Howie how to handle a puck! If that can’t be done and Howie continues to be wildly inconsistent, then Mrazek should be the starter the year after. I’d rather have a rookie making rookie mistakes and learning/improving from them than having a 6th year prime-of-your-career guy making rookie mistakes and not improving in the slightest.

Posted by silversailer on 04/25/14 at 12:55 AM ET

Avatar

Lashoff has been god-awful all series.  I think this would have been a different series with Ericsson.

Posted by neffernin on 04/25/14 at 01:02 AM ET

moocat's avatar

Howard didn’t even play and he’s being bagged on…

Just..unreal…sometimes…

Posted by moocat on 04/25/14 at 01:15 AM ET

bigfrog's avatar

Brendan smith has really shown me a lot this playoff series thus far.  From his grit and competitiveness in going after Chara to his puck rushes and heady defensive plays.  I hope this is something that he can build off of.  Playing with kronwall has really helped Smiths game.

I was at the last two games and Smith’s Parents were sitting right in front of me. I would watch them cringe when Brendan Smith was hit. I didn’t notice the same reaction when Reilly Smith was hit. Anyway Boston came at the Red Wings in waves during the O.T., and it just seemed like a matter of time before Boston would score. Yes Boston thugged it up, but that’s what happens during playoff hockey. You have to push back or get rolled over. Either way as mentioned this team need help on defense. Also wouldn’t be surprised to see Franzen bought out to compliment the teams youth movement going forward.

Posted by bigfrog on 04/25/14 at 01:20 AM ET

bleep bloop's avatar

The Red Wings were good the first half of the game. After the referees surprised everyone by finally calling a penalty on Kevan Miller for holding, grappling, and punching Abdelkader behind the play, it was no surprise that what was given was taken away on a reputation call against Bertuzzi (for what was at worst incidental contact but maybe a dive by Zdeno Punch a Guy in the Back of the Head when He Skates Away Chara), and it was equally unsurprising that the Bruins scored on the resulting brief power play (what happened to the formerly 3rd best PK team in the league?).

The Red Wings then proceeded to demonstrate why they have been one of the worst teams in the league all season in third periods, overtimes, and shootouts. (Who says there are no shootouts in the playoffs? We all just watched one.)


We all know Babcock is one of the best coaches, yet there are a lot of problems that are not addressed season after season (e.g., inability to protect leads of any kind), postseason after postseason (e.g., inability to close out games, 3-game losing streaks in 4+ consecutive years). I hope that, if nothing else, this season proves to be a learning season for not only “the kids”, but also the general manager and coaches.

Posted by bleep bloop on 04/25/14 at 01:23 AM ET

Figaro's avatar

Another game where Franzen came out flying (maybe that A on his shirt was throwing off his balance) and then just faded as the game went on.  Unfortunately, he seems to be taking Nyquist with him on his travels through Mediocrity-land.

and the Wings were out-shot 12-3 in OT.

  Just gotta put the puck on net, boys!

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 04/25/14 at 01:40 AM ET

Avatar

The big news in this series is Howard getting benched, I think.  It’s not a surprise (or at least it shouldn’t have been) that Boston’s just plain better than Detroit is right now.  D and Z hobbled, no Alfredsson, no Weiss, no Ericsson… last nights game (and the series in general) is a lot different with those guys healthy(ier).

I’ll wait until the season is over before going too deep into the offseason stuff, but Howard getting benched throws that position into a lot more flux than even I thought it would be in.  The whole ‘we’re not sure who is starting game 5’ comment is a big deal.

At an absolute minimum the starting gig is going to be up for grabs next year.  It won’t be a ‘we have to get Jimmy starts to get him going’ thing, it’ll be a ‘best guy goes’ thing.  Whether that’s a Howard-Mrazek battle or a Howard-Gustavsson battle, we’ll have to see.  I tend to think the team would try to bring back Gustavsson on a one or two year deal, but I think another club will make him a bigger, longer offer than Detroit should.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 04/25/14 at 06:37 AM ET

Avatar

The big news in this series is Howard getting benched, I think.  I

I thought that too when they said Gus was starting. I wonder if it really is flu or if something is going to come out eventually.

 

Posted by George0211 on 04/25/14 at 07:57 AM ET

Avatar

Not sure why George wants to bag on Tatar and Franzen.  Both had their best games of the series, by far, and were very good.

Posted by jkm2011 on 04/25/14 at 09:20 AM ET

Avatar

Not sure why George wants to bag on Tatar and Franzen.  Both had their best games of the series, by far, and were very good.

Posted by jkm2011 on 04/25/14 at 09:20 AM ET

Tatar, maybe, not Franzen, Besides the hit on Lucic, I didn’t see much from Franzen. Couple shots above the net, are not examples of good, IMO.

Posted by George0211 on 04/25/14 at 09:22 AM ET

Avatar

I don’t feel real strongly either way whether Mrazek spends one more year in Grand Rapids or not. What I am hoping is that in the next year or two he truly gets a fair chance to compete for the job and that Ken Holland and Babs aren’t so in love with Jimmy Howard (a la Dan Cleary) that Mrazek eventually ends up being an all-star on another NHL team. And I’d also be sick if Mrazek doesn’t get a chance because management won’t put up with a back-up goaltender making $5M/yr.

Posted by Steve in SE MI on 04/25/14 at 09:27 AM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Not sure why any of the forwards are getting called out individually.  They all faded as the game went on.  I thought Franzen looked good early, and Tatar had chance after chance, but couldnt burry one.

Defense was mostly the same, with only Smith starting out brutal, but getting stronger as the game went on.  Everyone else faded down the stretch.  And Kindl/Lashoff pairing was terrible.  I could see the Bruins eyes get wide with anticipation everytime those 2 were on the ice.

And Monster, while scary at times, did everything they could ask of him and more to win this game.

Posted by Hootinani on 04/25/14 at 09:51 AM ET

Tracy from T-Town Hockey 's avatar

Babs likes Mrazek, so I don’t think he will have any loyalty to Howard.  If nothing else, this year has taught him to give the kids a chance.  Vets shouldn’t always win out.  That being said, I’m not sure Mrazek is ready for full time NHL duty just yet.  Perhaps back up for a couple years. 
For those of you saying the Wings stopped doing what was working: It appeared to me like they couldn’t keep up with doing what had been working.  Like running a marathon and not pacing yourself enough at the beginning.  They looked like they put it all out there in period one, were tired in period two, then got a slight second wind in the third, by overtime they were gassed.

Posted by Tracy from T-Town Hockey on 04/25/14 at 10:02 AM ET

Primis's avatar

Let’s be honest about this.  Howard was in the toilet puking his guts out at the thought of facing Boston again.

You obviously have NOT been in my household this week, OTC.  Because I have 2 preschoolers and a middle schooler who have spent DAYS puking their guts out, even after seeming to be fine for a full day.  It’s maddening.  I send a kid to school after being sick, they’re fine, and then completely sick again the next day.  My own father even has had the exact same thing.

In fact?  I myself missed a chunk of the 2nd and 3rd periods last night because a toddler puked ALL OVER ME while I was trying to console her for her stomach apparently hurting.  She had been find for about 36 hours.

But I guess it’s easier for you to just take cowardly shots at someone that didn’t even play then own up to the fact Howard maaaaaaybe isn’t the problem here and hasn’t been all along.  Howard plays Wings lose, its his fault.  Howard doesn’t play, Wings lose… still his fault huh?

You really are the absolute worst sometimes.

Posted by Primis on 04/25/14 at 10:17 AM ET

Primis's avatar

Howard didn’t even play and he’s being bagged on…

Just..unreal…sometimes…

Posted by moocat on 04/25/14 at 01:15 AM ET

I think it’s fantastic.  That opinion is basically a giant, flashing warning sign to everyone else.

Posted by Primis on 04/25/14 at 10:22 AM ET

Avatar

But I guess it’s easier for you to just take cowardly shots at someone that didn’t even play then own up to the fact Howard maaaaaaybe isn’t the problem here and hasn’t been all along.

Do you actually believe he had the flu?  That’s… amazing.

First off, if he really had the flu and it wasn’t a bench somebody would have said ‘Howard’s out sick tonight but if he over it by Saturday he’ll be starting’, not…

“Mike Babcock said he thought Jonas Gustavsson played well so undecided about who starts Game 5 as of now.”

That’s totally different.  I mean, you guys mostly get that, right?  There’s a little bit of reading between the lines here, sure… but very, very little.

That said, I don’t think Howard’s been “the problem”, but that’s a pretty crappy standard to use for a guy making 5+ a year to be a goalie.  Being “the problem” should be well and truly off the radar at that pay grade.

Detroit’s worse than Boston at forward, defense and in the net… it’s just that they’re healthy in net and not at the other two, so that one stings a bit more.

 

Posted by HockeyinHD on 04/25/14 at 11:13 AM ET

Avatar

At an absolute minimum the starting gig is going to be up for grabs next year.  It won’t be a ‘we have to get Jimmy starts to get him going’ thing, it’ll be a ‘best guy goes’ thing

Don’t you think it will be the “tie” goes to the veteran again?

Posted by VPalmer on 04/25/14 at 11:51 AM ET

Avatar

Tatar, maybe, not Franzen, Besides the hit on Lucic, I didn’t see much from Franzen. Couple shots above the net, are not examples of good, IMO

Honestly Tatar, Nyquist, Franzen, Sheahan and Legwand contributed nothing in this series, but we always expect something from Franzen. Maybe it’s time to stop expecting anything from him. He had a nice stretch of games during the regular season, but playoffs and against Boston is a different game and Franzen has been invisible in the playoffs since he started having concussions 3-4 years ago. I do not even blame him at this point (I’ve had concussions as well and know what it is), but I do not expect anything from him either.
As to Nyquist and Tatar, it’s probably too early to blame them as this is Tatar’s first playoffs and Nyquist’s first playoffs when he is expected to contribute, but on the other hand, they do look too small (all of a sudden) to be a factor in the series against Boston.

Posted by VPalmer on 04/25/14 at 12:02 PM ET

Avatar

Do you actually believe he had the flu?  That’s… amazing.

Turned out he has the flu. I guess you aren’t smart enough to believe the wings staff you defend all the time.

Posted by howeandhowe on 04/26/14 at 01:58 AM ET

Add a Comment

Please limit embedded image or media size to 575 pixels wide.

Add your own avatar by joining Kukla's Korner, or logging in and uploading one in your member control panel.

Captchas bug you? Join KK or log in and you won't have to bother.

Smileys

Notify me of follow-up comments?

Feed

Most Recent Blog Posts

About The Malik Report

The Malik Report is a destination for all things Red Wings-related. I offer biased, perhaps unprofessional-at-times and verbose coverage of my favorite team, their prospects and developmental affiliates. I've joined the Kukla's Korner family with five years of blogging under my belt, and I hope you'll find almost everything you need to follow your Red Wings at a place where all opinions are created equal and we're all friends, talking about hockey and the team we love to follow.