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Red Wings-Blackhawks game-day updates: Howard starting, Smith sitting

Updated 8x at 3:26 PM: The Detroit Red Wings face a must-win situation tonight against the Chicago Blackhawks (8:30 PM EDT, FSD Plus/CSN Chicago/NHL Network, with the requisite Center Ice/GameCenter Live blackout/97.1 FM), and the Blackhawks' morning skate was a routine affair...

 

Via RedWingsFeed, I do believe that this is called, "The NHL Network, rubbing it in":

NHL.com's Brian Hedger has already penned a slate of prospective lineups for both teams...

RED WINGS

Johan Franzen – Pavel Datsyuk – Justin Abdelkader

Valtteri Filppula – Henrik Zetterberg – Danny Cleary

Gustav Nyquist – Joakim Andersson – Damien Brunner

Drew Miller – Cory Emmerton – Patrick Eaves

Niklas Kronwall – Jonathan Ericsson

Kyle Quincey – Brendan Smith

Danny Dekeyser – Jakub Kindl

Jimmy Howard

Jonas Gustavsson

Scratched: Ian White, Jordin Tootoo, Brian Lashoff, Carlo Colaiacovo, Mikael Samuelsson, Jared Coreau

Injured: Darren Helm (IR, back), Todd Bertuzzi (IR, back)

BLACKHAWKS

Brandon Saad – Jonathan Toews – Marian Hossa

Patrick Sharp – Marcus Kruger – Patrick Kane

Bryan Bickell – Michal Handzus – Victor Stalberg

Daniel Carcillo – Andrew Shaw – Michael Frolik

Duncan Keith – Niklas Hjalmarsson

Nick Leddy – Brent Seabrook

Johnny Oduya – Michal Rozsival

Corey Crawford

Ray Emery

Scratched: Sheldon Brookbank, Brandon Bollig, Dave Bolland (day-to-day, lower body)

On the Wings' side of the ice...

That means that Carlo Colaiacovo's in...And we kind of knew this:

*Cringes*

MLive's Ansar Khan and Brendan Savage debated whether the currently 8th-place Wings would be better-suited to play Chicago or Anaheim in the 1st round of the playoffs...

ANSAR KHAN: They'll be happy just to get in, the way they've been playing lately.

But, if they do make it, Anaheim would be a much better match-up for anyone than Chicago would be. The Blackhawks aren't like the top-seeded Vancouver Canucks of last season, a soft, mentally fragile team ripe for a first-round upset. I think Chicago will win the Stanley Cup, and it would take a major upset to bounce the Blackhawks from the opening round.

Anaheim, on the other hand, seems like a team that might implode under pressure and adversity. The Ducks' big forwards can be tough to handle, but they're also prone to taking bad penalties when they get frustrated. Also, Anaheim's goaltending and defense isn't as strong as Chicago's.

BRENDAN SAVAGE: The obvious answer is Anaheim. The Red Wings beat the Ducks 5-1 and 2-1 in a span of three days on the road last month to kick off the second half of a brutal stretch that saw them play seven of eight games on the road while making two West Coast trips.

But they gave the Blackhawks all they could handle in the first two meetings – reaching overtime twice only to lose both games 2-1 – before getting blasted 7-1 on Easter Sunday. But I wouldn't put too much stock into that game. It was one of those days when everything went right for Chicago and nothing did for Detroit.

Anaheim might be the better matchup but I'd like to see the Red Wings play the Blackhawks in the first round. Two Original Six rivals separated by Lake Michigan has all the makings of a classic series even if it is the No. 1 team in the West against the eighth seed.

I agree with them. The Wings can frustrate the Ducks...I'm not sure whether they're deep enough to battle the Hawks.

FYI:

Details are available here.

And, via RedWingsFeed, the CBC posted a slate of press photos from Mr. Hockey, the Gordie Howe Story, which they'll be airing on April 28th and the Hallmark Channel will air on May 4th.

Update #0.5:

Update #1: Patrick Sharp spoke to the Chicago Tribune's Chris Kuc about the Wings-Hawks rivalry:


Comcast Sportsnet Chicago posted a game-day video in which Jonathan Toews, Corey Crawford and Joel Quenneville discussed the tasks at hand tonight...As of Thursday:

Update #2: You may take this blog entry from the Chicago Daily Herald's Tim Sassone for what you will:

The Red Wings will be leaving the Western Conference after this season when the NHL realigns, but for the Blackhawks there’s always Vancouver.

“I think in this era, that new rivalry is us and the Canucks,” center Dave Bolland said. “It’s a great rivalry and we’ve played them so many times and had so many battles. Just the hatred between both teams is great for the league and great for the fans. It’s two teams that go out and battle their hearts out, one team wants to win and will slash and hit and do whatever it can to get that.”

That doesn't mean Bolland won't miss playing Detroit.

"For sure, I'm going to miss them," Bolland said. "It's always been a great rivalry. Now we'll only see them twice when they move over (to the East). I'm a little heartbroken."

Patrick Sharp also will miss seeing the Red Wings five and six times a season.

“I don’t mind the new realignment the league decided to go with, but the one thing that does (stink) is not playing the Red Wings a number of times,” Sharp said. “I like going to Detroit and playing in their building and I like when they come here. They’re fun games to play in.”

Urgh:

Update #3: The Chicago Sun-Times' Mark Lazerus also talked to the Hawks and Wings about the teams' rivalry in light of the Wings' probable move to the Eastern Conference...

"You can feel it going into games, you can feel the buzz in the crowd during games -- the animosity, not just from the players, you can sense it from the fans," Hawks coach Joel Quenneville said. "They even have their chants that represent that."

Indeed, Friday night's game (the 725th meeting all-time between the teams) won't be the last time "De-troit Sucks!" echoes through the Madhouse, but unless the two teams meet in the playoffs -- a distinct first-round possibility -- it was the last time it happened during a game between division and conference rivals. The Red Wings are headed to the Eastern Conference next season as part of the NHL's sweeping realignment. And love them or hate them (OK, hate them), they're surely be missed in Chicago.

"I don't mind the new realignment that the league decided to go with, but the one thing that does suck is not playing the Red Wings a number of times," Hawks winger Patrick Sharp said. "I think the fans will always appreciate the rivalry, and when we do see them it'll be a special game. I like going to Detroit and playing in their building, I like it when they come here. They're fun games to play in."

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"Sometimes, when you play a team six or eight times in a season, people think that builds a rivalry, but sometimes it kills them because you see the same faces over and over," he said. "Seeing these guys once or twice a year, you'll get fired up for those games, the fans will too, and maybe that'll spark things."

The new realignment will have every team Western Conference team play every Eastern Conference team twice each season, once in each city.

"We're going to play them next year, we'll still have a home and home," Detroit defenseman Brendan Smith said. "I don't think you can ever lose a rivalry. It'll just be heightened when we do play them."

And if the season ended today, the Hawks and Red Wings would meet in the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs -- a fitting conclusion to their tenure as conference rivals.

"It would be a lot of fun," Smith said. "I think everybody in the hockey world would love that. It'd be a lot of fun for us and a lot of fun for everybody."

And Comcast Sportsnet Chicago's Steve Konroyd offers three keys for the Hawks to beat the Wings:

1:  Wings have memories, this is a revenge game:  The last time these two teams played, Chicago had a five goal lead just 24 minutes into the game.  It was 7-0 until Detroit scored with 33 seconds to play.  I don’t have the stats to back me up, but I’m pretty sure that this was the first time in 20 plus years that the Red Wings lost 7-1 at home.  One thing this Wings team has is plenty of speed up front.  Be ready for a payback game.

Nope. 8-2 against Nashville, there's been a 10-1 loss...

2:  Play a road game at home:  Love the way the Blackhawks are playing on the road right now.  Simple hockey all over the ice: get it in, get it out -- beat them with hard work and relentlessness.  That’s the mindset on the road.  I’d like to see that mindset at home.  In their last two road games, they’ve given up just 20 shots in each.  It’s will over skill, and eventually your skill will take over. 

3:  Beware of Datsyuk:  Pavel Datsyuk is a fun player to watch.  He’s like Patrick Kane in that he does the unexpected, and he has the skill to make it work.  He’s got 13 goals this year, and seven of them are on the power play.  He has been held pointless against the Hawks in three games this year.  As Pavel goes, so go the Red Wings.  Duncan Keith and Niklas Hjalmarsson will probably get this assignment.  Make sure it’s a quiet night for Datsyuk.

Update #4: Here's the Free Press's Helene St. James' game-day update:

Quick update from an optional morning skate: Jimmy Howard will make his eighth straight start for the Detroit Red Wings.

The Wings play the Blackhawks tonight at United Center (8:30 p.m., NHLN-US, FS-D+).

The Wings lost in a shootout to San Jose Thursday; as general manager Ken Holland put it: It was a huge point gained - and a huge point lost. The Wings are in a tight, tight battle for what's likely to be the last playoff spot in the Western Conference.

Coach Mike Babcock and his staff wasn't at the United Center, but based on who did skate, defensemen Brendan Smith, Ian White and Brian Lashoff are out tonight. Smith had just sat two games after a poor performance last week at Phoenix, but he didn't respond well against San Jose Thursday.

The most interesting take-away from the morning skate was that Howard will play again. It's not surprising, given how badly the Wings need points, and Babcock has pointed out more than once that Howard gives the Wings the best chance to win. But it's a further indictment against backup Jonas Gustavsson, as ideally the backup goalie plays one of the games of a back-to-back situation. Gustavsson last played March 31, against the Blackhawks, when he relieved Howard and then allowed three of the goals in the 7-1 disaster.

Update #5: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan reports that Todd Bertuzzi still hopes to return from his back issues sometime before the regular season ends:

"The way I felt today was probably the most positive sign I've had in a long time," Bertuzzi said, after several Red Wings completed a morning skate at United Center. "I'm trying my best to get back."

Bertuzzi has been limited to seven games this season after suffering a back injury Feb. 7 in St. Louis. The back is pretty much cured at this point, but the pain shooting down the back of his leg isn't.

"It's pretty much 80 percent the leg," said Bertuzzi of what is keeping him out of action.

The condensed lockout schedule isn't helping, either.

"It's unfortunate with the lockout, there are games every second day," Bertuzzi said. "They go by one by one by one, so I'm in a race to get back right now."

Bertuzzi sought a second opinion last week and he's optimistic something was found which will be able to get him on the ice quickly. Surgery isn't anticipated in the near future.

"At this point, no," Bertuzzi said.

Update #6: The Wings' game-day blog offers a historical note...

On This Day in Red Wings History...On April 12, 1996

Detroit wins its NHL record-setting 61st game of the season, beating Chicago, 5-3, at Joe Louis Arena.

And Ken Kal's Keys to the Game:

Score Early - The Wings need to set the tone out of the gate. Its the last regular season game Detroit plays in Chicago as division rivals, so they have to take the crowd out of the game.

Win the Special Teams Battles - The Power Play was key to the Hawks' success in the first 2 games. The Red Wings need to score on the PP and also be effective on the Penalty Kill.

Win The Battles in the Corners - This is where the games are usually won. Detroit has to compete hard and win those 1-on-1 battles tonight.

Update #7: MLive's Brendan Savage reports that Brendan Smith goofed around with reporters, and...

• Goaltender Jimmy Howard is close to reaching a contract extension with the Red Wings but has yet to sign it.

"Just getting it finalized," said Howard, 28.

Howard, in his fourth full season with the Red Wings, is on the verge of agreeing to a six-year extension that would pay him $31 million. This season, Howard has appeared in 34 of 40 games for the Red Wings (19-15-6) and has a 16-12-5 record, 2.39 goals-against average and .918 save percentage with two shutouts.

• Goaltending coach Jim Bedard and advisor to hockey operations Chris Chelios ran the morning skate while coach Mike Babcock took the morning off, meaning there was no update on potential lineup changes.

But all indications point to the only lineup change from Thursday's 3-2 shootout loss to San Jose being Carlo Colaiacovo dressing in place of Smith.

This morning's skate was optional and Smith took part along with Jordin Tootoo, Ian White, Brian Lashoff, Mikael Samuelsson and Helm. Howard is expected to start for the second straight night.

Also, from Calgary's 660 News's Kaitlin Lee:

NHL hockey legends are in Calgary for a star-studded birthday party Friday.

Mr. Hockey himself, Gordie Howe, is celebrating his 85th birthday and kicking off a weekend-long tournament to raise funds for the Alzheimer Society of Alberta and Northwest Territories.

NHL superstars Alex Devecchio, Guy Lafleur, Frank Mahovlich and Garry Unger will all be present for the kick off of the pro-am face off for Alzheimer’s.

The local fundraiser gives amateur hockey players a chance to play alongside hockey greats, and raise money for the cause.

Update #8: More Wings-Hawks rivalry talk from  ESPN Chicago's Scott Powers:

“We're going to play them next year,” Smith said. “We're going to have a home-and-home. I don't think you can ever lose the rivalry. I guess it'll be heightened when we do play them the select few times that we can. It'll be sad to not come up here and not play all the games we normally play, four or five or whatever it may be here. That will suck, but it's going to be a lot better on our travel schedule.”

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“I think over the year the history there is very real, and the rivalry was definitely in place,” Quenneville said. “You could feel it going into games. You could feel the buzz in the crowd during games. The animosity not just the players, you can sense it from the fans. They even have the chants to represent that. I just think there's been so many games you've seen Detroit. You have so much respect for what they've done throughout their history and through the history of the games between one another. It'll definitely be missed, but I still think when we play each other once a year that it'll be easy to get back to that level of the rivalry.”

While Friday's game will mark their final regular-season matchup this season, the two teams could meet in the playoffs. As of Friday, the Blackhawks were the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference and the Red Wings were No. 8. Blackhawks forward Dave Bolland was in favor of facing the Red Wings in the playoffs.

“That would be pretty fun actually,” Bolland said. “If it is them, we'll be ready for it. They're still a good team. They're still a team that can changes things up right away. They've got a lot of good players. I think you got to be aware of them.”

The Blackhawks will be attempting a regular-season sweep of the Red Wings on Friday. The Blackhawks last accomplished that in the 1976-77 season. Aside from preventing the sweep, the Red Wings are also looking for a better showing than their last meeting when the Blackhawks defeated them 7-1 in Detroit on March 31.

“I think you never forget something like that,” Smith said. “That was just a frustrating game in our part, a lot of mental errors. The biggest thing for us is to come back and try to redeem.”

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John W.'s avatar

Quincey still in there, huh?  He was absolutely dreadful again last night, as he has been every game since his return, yet he seems to share that untouchable status with Cleary.  Must be nice to be one of Babs’ guys who can play like crap every game and never have to worry about ice time.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 04/12/13 at 02:17 PM ET

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somehow Quincey has managed to be 4th in team +/- and second in defense +/-

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 02:22 PM ET

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Quincey still in there, huh?  He was absolutely dreadful again last night, as he has been every game since his return, yet he seems to share that untouchable status with Cleary.  Must be nice to be one of Babs’ guys who can play like crap every game and never have to worry about ice time.

Quincey also gets important minutes on both special teams units…my god. He is truly a useless player. Ineffective in all 3 zones with the exception of a decent outlet pass every 4-5 shifts. Also I think it’s about time to start playing White. He’s one of 2-3 defenseman who’s actually capable of shooting the puck somewhere near the opponents’ net rather than the opponents’ shins. Besides, he must be totally in the Wings’ plans since they kept him around at the deadline despite benching him on a regular basis. Might as well “see what you have” in him “going forward”.

 

Posted by godblender on 04/12/13 at 02:27 PM ET

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somehow Quincey has managed to be 4th in team +/- and second in defense +/-

Everyone experiences some dumb luck in their lives.

Posted by godblender on 04/12/13 at 02:29 PM ET

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I think the team’s very genuinely worried about Smith’s physical and mental fatigue…And “going forward,” definitely, with Kronwall, Ericsson, Lashoff, Smith, DeKeyser and Kindl in the lineup, Quincey in the mix and a possible UFA signing to come, Quincey’s job is only slightly safer than Ian White or Carlo Colaiacovo’s at this point, but the Wings still seem to believe in him.

I think tonight’s game is a case of giving Smith a breather and leaning on the vets against the Hawks’ deke-and-dangle brigade.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/12/13 at 02:29 PM ET

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I think tonight’s game is a case of giving Smith a breather and leaning on the vets against the Hawks’ deke-and-dangle brigade.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/12/13 at 02:29 PM ET

I don’t disagree with Smith sitting, he hasn’t been very good lately, either, but I’d take White or Lashoff over Quincey at this point.  I just don’t get Quincey as being untouchable.  The guy needs to know his play is unnacceptable, and time in the press box is a good way of doing that.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 04/12/13 at 02:55 PM ET

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Everybody is so high on Lashoff, but he’s -10

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 03:23 PM ET

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Everybody is so high on Lashoff, but he’s -10

And Quincey is +7, so cleary that is an important stat…

Posted by Garth on 04/12/13 at 03:30 PM ET

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geez, I just looked at the league schedule for tonight and it’s like a who’s who of the POS.

STL at CBJ
DET at CHI
DAL at NSH
PHX at CGY


tonight could either give the Wings some breathing room (Wings win, Coyotes, Blues, and Stars lose) or it could put us closer to that 10th spot than we want to be.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 03:32 PM ET

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Everybody is so high on Lashoff, but he’s -10

And Quincey is +7, so cleary that is an important stat…

is it the end-all-be-all of evaluating a player?  no.  but it takes out the subjectivity and emotion that is brewing around here.  it tells me that there is a pretty good likelihood that Quincey gives us a better chance of winning than Lashoff.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 03:33 PM ET

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Yeah Smith was not good again last night, I mentioned it a couple of times.

The Defense is getting like Tiger fans cussing Leyland when the relief pitcher walks 3 batters.  All he can do is put the players out there and hope they don’t make stupid turnovers.  If they do, sit them out and try the next guy until he screws up.  Smith and Lash hven’t been very good lately, IMO.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with creepy Rob Lowe. on 04/12/13 at 03:38 PM ET

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The Defense is getting like Tiger fans cussing Leyland when the relief pitcher walks 3 batters. 

so you’ve talked to my mom?

LOL

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 03:40 PM ET

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it tells me that there is a pretty good likelihood that Quincey gives us a better chance of winning than Lashoff.

Tells me Lash is a rookie seeing more NHL time that he was truly ready for. Not like we threw away a decent draft pick on Lash, realistic expectations say Lash is fine considering he wasn’t projected to be where he is right now. At least Lash has some upside, what you see with Quincey is what you get & Q fails the eyeball test miserably. And if we need to rely on Q over Lash to win, we are well and truly worse off that it appears we already are. 
Give Lash a few years of experience and then you might be able to compare him to Quincey on an apples to apples basis.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 04/12/13 at 03:48 PM ET

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Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 03:33 PM ET

i’m totally with you on this. that’s how all stats should be approached. the difference between Quincey and Lash’s +/- is significant, especially when we’re not scoring that much. it’s also a stat that becomes more and more significant as the season goes on. as more and more goals are scored, the luck tends to balance itself out and plusses can’t simply be attributed to teammates.

it was no accident that Kindl’s +/- wasn’t that good when he was playing like crap and is now tied with the team lead after his play has significantly improved. Quincey was actually playing pretty well for awhile (and led the team in +/- himself for a stretch) but has seemed tentative since he’s come back. you have to wonder how that cage affects his vision too? But I still agree that he gives us a better chance to win than Lash. Our penalty kill has generally been pretty stellar of late with Quincey and Ericsson both playing pretty strong in front of our net. 

But I think Brendan Smith is really important for our team. I sure hope he shakes off these growing pains before the playoffs as a confident Brendan Smith definitely ups any slim chance we have at doing any playoff damage. Hell, we may need a confident Brendan Smith to even make the playoffs. I feel like our lack of scoring of late has actually been more a product of the D than the O. I know teams are just trapping our asses off for the most part, but we seem to have few good entries by the D, few good stretch passes from the D, and few good shots getting through by the D. Not to say our offense has been good, but if ANY of Smith/Colo/White could start playing confidently with the puck, it could be a huge boost for our team.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 04/12/13 at 04:03 PM ET

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but it takes out the subjectivity and emotion that is brewing around here.

It does no such thing.  The way you’re interpreting it is subjective.  You look at it as if Lashoff’s +/- is completely dependent on his play, when it is reflective of him as well as everyone else who is on the ice at the same time as him.  He could be doing his job perfectly and someone else’s screwup could lead to a goal, which leads to a -1 for him even though he didn’t do anything wrong.

Posted by Garth on 04/12/13 at 04:06 PM ET

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but it takes out the subjectivity and emotion that is brewing around here.

It does no such thing.  The way you’re interpreting it is subjective. 

uh, not it’s not.  one guy’s number is higher than the other guy’s number.  that is OBJECTIVE - taking out personal opinion.

You look at it as if Lashoff’s +/- is completely dependent on his play

you like strawmen, don’t you Garth?  I never said any such thing.

, when it is reflective of him as well as everyone else who is on the ice at the same time as him.  He could be doing his job perfectly and someone else’s screwup could lead to a goal, which leads to a -1 for him even though he didn’t do anything wrong.

and as perfection pointed out, over time those things even out and a SEVENTEEN point difference in their +/- is telling.  it’s not like they’re just a little bit different in that stat.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 04:12 PM ET

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does +/- say EVERYTHING about a player?  of course not.

but the two of them being SEVENTEEN points apart in that stat, over the course of about 30 games played each, is telling.

like you said, +/- isn’t ALL about how the individual has played, but it also isn’t ALL about how their teammates played around them.  their own personal performance is part of it, and a 17 point difference is huge.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 04:14 PM ET

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In my opinion Lashoff, at this stage of his career, is a solid NHL prospect, not a solid NHL player. Looking at the number of D-men scratched, let’s me think ” a good problem to have”. Three Players who could eventually play, talk about beating the injury bug. (please jebus, I’m just stating a fact, don’t hurt them for it)

@Garth: Statistics can only suggest trends but never predict them and Lashoff’s are showing that he’s not ready yet. A freaky Minus occurs when your partner fraked up, but most of the time you are responsible for it, Lidstrom’s -2 season being the exception to that rule. Looking at finished careers pretty much concurs.

Posted by Joe Z. from Austria on 04/12/13 at 04:28 PM ET

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On another topic…

a further indictment against backup Jonas Gustavsson

Buy-out central. Guess we’ll be looking for yet another backup goalie in the off-season. Joey Mac? Are you out there?

Posted by AZWinger on 04/12/13 at 05:03 PM ET

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I think all these young players are showing fatigue…Smith, Kindl, Lashoff, Brunner & Nyquist.  If I were coach, I would be playing White & Colaiacovo, because they are seasoned veterans & rested.
But then, there is a reason Babcock is coach and I am not!

  cheese

Posted by w2j2 on 04/12/13 at 05:03 PM ET

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I don’t really care what Quincey’s +/- is.  Watching him play tells you all you need to know.  He’s just not a bright hockey player.  Just bad decision after bad decision, AND his skill set is lacking.  His passes aren’t very accurate and he doesn’t handle the puck well under pressure.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 04/12/13 at 05:20 PM ET

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Why did we keep White again?

Posted by gt500x on 04/12/13 at 06:01 PM ET

PaulinMiamiBeach's avatar

I fully expect that next season, with people healthy, the roster will be based on age again - favoring veterans.  maybe a few exceptions like Brunner and Nyquist but especially on defense they’ll completely abandon the “youth movement” because they never embraced it in the first place.  they were forced into it.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 06:17 PM ET

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Quincey may not look very good, but the bottom line is does the puck end up in the net more often when he is on the ice or when Lashoff is?  do the Wings score more often when Quincey is on the ice or Lashoff?  those are the questions +/- answers, and in the end GF/GA is what matters.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/12/13 at 06:18 PM ET

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i think the reason we kept White and Filps (unless just maybe Holland actually thinks he will resign Filp at a fair rate?) is that when you hear Z, Babs, or Kenny say “if you just get into the playoffs its a totally new season and anyone can beat anyone on any given night”, well they actually believe that. The Wings know they are not a favorite to win this year, so much so that Kenny didn’t make any deadline moves because this was just not a season it was worth our while. We are rebuilding. But with that said, we can also beat any team on any given night (which we’ll hopefully prove tonight). Because pucks bounce, injuries happen, goalies get hot, momentum gets rolling and more often than not, the unexpected happens. That’s what makes the playoffs so badass.

So while the Wings probably won’t do anything, they theoretically could and that possibility alone is enough for the team to keep enough depth on the back end for a playoff grind. White as a rental would have gotten us a 6th rounder or something. It probably just didn’t seem worth losing the body.

Keeping Filps is obviously harder to justify. If we don’t resign him (for well under $5mil), I think Kenny definitely missed a chance to snag some value for him when people were overpaying. But again, I think he doesn’t really care of he resigns him or not because he actually believes if they just get in, they have a chance and they have a better chance at both getting in and advancing with Filps than they do without him. I do think they are in love with the idea of “contending” while “rebuilding”. It’s not a very common feat in professional sports and the Wings have already done it a couple times in the last couple decades. Pulling it off definitely adds to the organizational veneer which then hopefully continues to attract top talent, etc. At least I think that’s the plan.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 04/12/13 at 06:53 PM ET

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I do think they are in love with the idea of “contending” while “rebuilding”

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It’s not a very common feat in professional sports and the Wings have already done it a couple times in the last couple decades. Pulling it off definitely adds to the organizational veneer which then hopefully continues to attract top talent, etc. At least I think that’s the plan.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 04/12/13 at 06:53 PM ET

Oh, I know why they’re keeping White.  My peeve is that they passed up the opportunity to help the team by parlaying him into an extra pick or two but they aren’t putting him to good use.  It’s the only way to justify not shipping him out.  This can’t be good for White either.  I would have rather seen him go some place else before his value could be sunk even more by being a healthy scratch for so long.  All this just for the possibility of making the playoffs and the small chance that the team could get past Chicago to make a run.  It doesn’t seem worth it at all to me.  It was a poor management decision that looks worse every day they don’t play White.

Posted by gt500x on 04/12/13 at 07:38 PM ET

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Let’s not discuss this notion that Detroit may find a way past Chicago in a playoff series. It can’t happen. Oh sure, it COULD happen…but seriously, it can’t. Whoever Detroit meets in the first round (if they manage to fall ass-backward into the playoffs) will dispatch of them in no more than five games. If there were a way to find out definitely if Holland actually believes that ANY team that gets into the playoffs has a chance to hoist the Cup, in particular this Wings’ squad, then he would deserve to fired on the spot and kicked in the head for good measure.

Posted by godblender on 04/12/13 at 07:48 PM ET

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