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Red Wings Wings did visit Suter, but a decision won’t come until Thursday

Updated 22x at 7:28 PM: This is nuts in the Red Wings news department, from Clipper 377 on Twitter:

Flight data says a gulfstream registered to the Red Wings left Madison WI 40 mins ago. Bringing Suter? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N559LC
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A Gulfstream 4 Owned by the Detroit Red Wings parent company left Madison WI 45 mins ago. Carrying Ryan Suter? #NHL
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@AnsarKhanMLive Illitch and Chelios were scheduled to meet with Ryan Suter today. They’re set to land at DTW at 5pm.
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@AnsarKhanMLive Illitch and Chelios were scheduled to meet with Ryan Suter today. They’re set to land at DTW at 5pm.

And RedWingsFeed has picked it up:

That plane is indeed registered to Olympia Entertainment. This is BANANAS
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That plane registered to Olympia Entertainment flew to Madison this morning http://is.gd/yMUmQK
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DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENTS ON THE GROUND AT DTW?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Full credit to @clipper377 for the CIA work
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That flight, is scheduled to arrive at 4:50pm EST. What does it mean? We don’t know
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If we can watch pizza being made online then we have every right to track the plane of the owner of a pizza chain, or something #right?
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NOTE: This is not an official Detroit Red Wings feed. This account is run by fans, for the fans. We do our best to pass along good info

Update: And Paul noted the following from Michael Russo:

talked to Zach Parise at MSP. He says he has not made a decision and he and his fiancée will talk today. “that has not started.” #MNWild
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Parise has no timetable, says is “so much more than the money. That plays a very small part in it.” #MNWild
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Parise, as affable as always, said this is “so much harder a decision than he I thought it would be.”
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For folks that think he wouldn’t fly back to Minnesota to announce he’s leaving, he laughed: “this is where I live.”
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Most amazing thing about Zach Parise: He apologized to me for “going dark for a few days.” Quite the star #mnwild #nhl

And yes, friends, Russo posted a story including a non-embeddable video….


Update #2 From the Macomb Daily’s Chuck Pleiness:

According to Flight Aware, a flight tracking system that shows live maps, flight statuses, airport delays, private/GA flights, and airports, there was a plane registered to Ilitch Holdings that arrived in Madison this morning.

That is the plane owned by Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch.

That’s where free-agent defenseman Ryan Suter lives on a farm in Madison, Wis.

Wings general manager Ken Holland has not responded to text messages.

This is a great sign since Suter’s agent Neil Sheey told teams that there would be no face-to-face meetings with his client.

The Wings were planning to send Ilitch and Chris Chelios to his farm on Sunday, but that meeting was canceled.

 

Update #3: And now MLive’s Ansar Khan’s on it:

A plane registered to Olympia Aviation, LLC, flew to Madison, Wis., this morning and is scheduled to fly back today, according to the Web site, FlightAware.com.

That is the plane owned by Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch.

Free-agent defenseman Ryan Suter lives on a farm in Madison, Wis., in the off-season.

Red Wings general manager Ken Holland has not responded to phone messages.

A source told MLive.com that Ilitch and team advisor Chris Chelios had planned on meeting with Suter at his farm on Sunday. But that meeting was canceled by Suter’s agent, Neil Sheey.

Sheehy told MLive.com on Saturday: “We (he and NHL general managers) all know each other, so there’s nothing meeting face-to-face is going to accomplish, at least initially. If Ryan is uncertain, that (meetings) could come into play.’‘

A source told MLive.com on Sunday that the Red Wings’ initial offer to Suter was 12 years for $90 million (salary-cap hit of $7.5 million).


Update #4: And in equally stalker-ish news, from the Star-Tribune’s Russo:

“There’s a lot of things to factor into it and I think that’s why we’re taking our time with the decision,” said Parise, the New Jersey Devils captain. “It’s not something we can just make at 1 o’clock on July 1. It takes time to make sure you consider everything and you’re doing the right thing.”

The teams in the running are believed to be his hometown Wild, the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Chicago Blackhawks, the Philadelphia Flyers, the Detroit Red Wings and the team that might be tugging on his heartstrings the most, the Devils, who drafted him in the first round in 2003. Parise, 27, said he would return to his home his Orono and talk with family, which will likely include his father, former North Stars player and assistant coach J.P. Parise, and his mother, Donna. But in the end, he said, “It’s a decision my fiancée and I will make together and that plays a lot into it. We just want to go somewhere that we know we’re going to be happy.”

As hard as it is to imagine since his agent, Don Meehan, said a decision could come later in the day Tuesday, Parise says that decision-making hasn’t started.

“We haven’t made a timetable or wanted to make a timetable,” Parise said. “I don’t want to put those types of restrictions on anything. You have to do the right research and it’s a life-changing decision.”

Conspiracy-theorist Wild fans, in suspense and praying he chooses the Wild, have felt there’s no way Parise would return to Minnesota to announce he’s snubbing the hometown team and signing elsewhere. Told that theory, Parise laughed, saying, “This is where I live. Either way, we’re coming back here.”

Teams interested in Parise are believed to be offering contracts worth $100 million and above. Still, Parise never imagined how “stressful” this decision would be.

“There’s so much more than the money. That plays a very small factor in it,” he said. “My agent’s did a great job. You take the time to consider everything. You consider where you want to be for the next however long and however many years of your life. It’s a harder decision than I thought it was going to be.”

Parise said he will discuss everything with his family.

“I’m excited for it to be over pretty soon,” Parise said.

 

Update #5 Sorry about being late on this, folks. Went out to get my clothes dry cleaned for Traverse City.

Anyway, here’s the Free Press’s Helene St. James’ take:

Neil Sheehy told the Free Press “a decision is forthcoming” but wouldn’t say whether it will come today.

“For a young man who is looking to commit to 13 years, I find it strange that people expect him to make a decision within hours or days. Everything needs to be carefully considered. Today is another day—really, there is nothing else I can say.”

Sheehy wouldn’t say whether Suter has met personally with the Wings, but a plane registered to Olympia Aviation LLC (Mike Ilitch’s company) left Madison, Wis., this afternoon, headed back to Detroit. Suter lives in Wisconsin in the off-season.

Wings general manager Ken Holland did not return a call seeking comment.

The Wings badly want to add Suter, 27, after losing Nicklas Lidstrom to retirement and Brad Stuart to the San Jose Sharks. Both were top-four defensemen, and Suter would go a long way toward ameliorating the losses, as he’s a headsy puck mover who can join the rush and really help with the Wings’ transition game. The Wings have staunch competition for his services, including from Philadelphia and Minnesota.

The Wings also made an offer Sunday to forward Zach Parise, 27, joining Minnesota, Pittsburgh and Chicago, among others.

 

Update #6: From the Free Press’s Helene St. James:

Zach Parise agent Wade Arnott tells Free Press: “We’re still in decision-making mode.” #RedWings

And the Newark Star-Ledger’s Rich Chere just offered a Parise update as well:

The unrestricted free agent, who says the Devils are still in the picture, called the process “more stressful than I thought.” Although he told The Minneapolis Star-Tribune as he arrived back in his home state he had yet to discuss his options with his fiancee, there is still a possibility that a decision will be announced today.

“Anything is possible,” Parise said this morning.

It seemingly has become difficult for free agents to leave the Devils as general manager Lou Lamoriello continues to keep his players. Martin Brodeur (two years, $9 million), Johan Hedberg (two years, $2.8 million), Bryce Salvador (three years, $9.5 million), Ryan Carter (two years, $1.55 million), Steve Bernier (two years, $1.55 million), Stephen Gionta (two years, $1.125), Cam Janssen (one year, $525,000), Peter Harrold (one year, $525,000) have all re-signed. Parise and Petr Sykora are still unsigned UFAs.

Only Alexei Ponikarovsky got away, signing a one-year, $1.8 million contract with the Winnipeg Jets. But Parise is the big fish.

“There’s a lot of things to factor into it and I think that’s why we’re taking our time with the decision,” Parise told Michael Russo of the Star-Tribune while in the baggage claim area at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. “It’s not something we can just make at 1 o’clock on July 1. It takes time to make sure you consider everything and you’re doing the right thing. We haven’t made a timetable or wanted to make a timetable. I don’t want to put those types of restrictions on anything. You have to do the right research and it’s a life-changing decision.”

Parise laughed at suggestions he came to Minnesota to sign with the Wild.

“This is where I live. Either way, we’re coming back here,” he said.

The Devils, Penguins and Wild may be the teams with the best chance at landing Parise for as many as 12 or 13 years for in excess of $100 million, but he won’t say.

“There’s so much more than the money. That plays a very small factor in it,” he said. “My agents did a great job. You take the time to consider everything. You consider where you want to be for the next however long and however many years of your life. It’s a harder decision than I thought it was going to be. I’m excited for it to be over pretty soon.”


Update #7: Even more Parise stuff from ESPN 1500’s Judd Zulgad:

Parise told Chris Long of 5 Eyewitness News that he will talk to his family and “know pretty soon” where he might land. The Wild is among the teams putting on a full-court press to sign Parise. The list reportedly also includes Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and New Jersey. Parise led the Devils to the Stanley Cup Finals this season, serving as the team’s captain.

“We’ve narrowed it down, closer than we were two days ago,” Parise told Long after landing at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. “(A decision is) going to come soon. ... A lot of things factor in, it’s why we’re taking our time. We have to take our time. It’s not a decision that can be made at 1 (o’clock) on July 1st.”

Parise said he and his fiancée will make the decision together.

“We want to somewhere that we will be happy,” he said. “We haven’t made a timetable. I don’t want to put restrictions on it, because it’s a life changing decision.”

Asked why he would return to Minnesota from Toronto, Parise said: “Because this is where I live. Either way we were coming back here.”

Update #8: Oh, Pleiness...

The aircraft owned by Illich Holdings that visited Madison, Wisc., this morning is en route back to Detroit. The plane is scheduled to land around 4:18 p.m. this afternoon.

According to Flight Aware, a flight tracking system that shows live maps, flight statuses, airport delays, private/GA flights, and airports, there was a plane registered to Ilitch Holdings that arrived in Madison this morning. That is the plane owned by Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch.

That’s where free-agent defenseman Ryan Suter lives on a farm in Madison, Wis.

Wings general manager Ken Holland has not responded to text messages.

This is a great sign since Suter’s agent Neil Sheey told teams that there would be no face-to-face meetings with his client.

The Wings were planning to send Ilitch and Chris Chelios to his farm on Sunday, but that meeting was canceled.


Update #9: And here’s St. James:

#RedWings initial offer to Ryan Suter was $80 M, 13 years, now up to $90 M. Team wants to keep cap # reasonable - preferably under $7 M

Update #9.5: From St. James again:

#Redwings made 2 year offer to D Sami Salo Sunday but lost him to Tampa Bay. Wanted to add both Suter & Salo.

Update #9.75: More St. James:

#RedWings still have offer out to UFA F Zach Parise, but if can’t get him, will go hard after UFA F Shane Doan July 9.

Update #10: Now St. James has put that stuff in print...

The agent for unrestricted free agent defenseman Ryan Suter - a top target of the Detroit Red Wings - said his client is making progress, but won’t be rushed.

General manager Ken Holland is believed to have met today with Suter at his off-season home in Madison, Wisc., though neither side would confirm that. The Wings made an offer of $80 million over 13 years to Suter on Sunday, and have since increased the money to $90 million.

The issue isn’t so much money as a whole but rather the salary cap hit, as the Wings are concerned about retaining flexibility under a new collective bargaining agreement. Their top offer of $90 million averages to a cap hit of $6.9 million, which would put Suter among the leaders for defensemen.

And she added this on Twitter:

Impression is, D Ryan Suter wants to go to “quiet market.” #RedWings would fit as they have passionate fans w/o intense scrutiny


Update #11: The Forechecker, a Predators blogger, offers this…

Interesting - around the same time that a Red Wings plane is flying to/from Madison, there’s a charter from Minny too: http://ow.ly/bZJt5
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Since we have nothing else to do but speculate, I’ll guess that if Suter is indeed holding court today w/multiple teams, no decision today.
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That MN plane? Flew this morning to Int’l Falls (where Suter’s agent is), then later this a.m. to Madison. http?//ow.ly/bZTH1 #SuterWatch

“That plane” is N68JV, from Johnson leasing. The one we’ve been following is N559LC, registered to Olympia Aviation LLC.

And here’s more from St. James:

#RedWings aren’t going to land new guys under market price any more. Look at money being handed out, it’s not happening any more anywhere.
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“@RyanTShannon: @HeleneStJames Suter already in that market with Nashville.”/Which is why Nashville is still in play

 

Update #12: The plane has landed, and the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan says he’s waiting, but the Detoit News’s David Guralnick fired off more interesting news:

I was doubtful that Suter is on that plane. But media are being denied acces to terminal where Ilitch’s plane will land.
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Media being sent off terminal property doesn’t mean Suter is on plane. Ilitch isn’t always up for a media scrum.
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Ilitch’s plane has landed.

And Kulfan’s getting the shove-off, too:

Police have booted us away from driveway

Update #12.5: Here we go, from Ansar Khan:

Wings plane returned from Madison 20 minutes ago. Media not allowed on grounds. No interviews allowed.

Update #12.6: From ESPN’s Craig Custance:

Guy kicking me out of Metro airport says Red Wings contingent left 20 minutes ago.

And, via RedWingsFeed, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review’s Josh Yohe’s an idiot, but here’s his take:

I’ve been told that if the Pens do acquire Ryan Suter, look for Paul Martin to be traded to Nashville.
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That said, I still think Suter is going to Detroit.


Update #13: And here comes your anticlimax, from USA Today’s Kevin Allen:

No Suter decision today, says his agent, Neil Sheehy.

Update #13.5: From WXYZ’s Brad Galli:

Airport officials and police denied access to media, including our reporter. Plane did land. No word on if Suter was on it. #RedWings

Craig Custance:

Guy kicking me out of Metro airport says Red Wings contingent left 20 minutes ago.
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My wife as I left for Detroit Metro: “When you’re stalking someone at the airport, shouldn’t you at least bring a suitcase to fit in?”

And Nicholas J. Cotsonika:

Suter wants to go somewhere media isn’t crazy. Last thing Wings should do is talk to reporters camped out at the airport.
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@Cellblock303 Think NSH, MIN, DET and PIT all offer a good balance. You know NSH. In other cities, hockey matters, but not too much.
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@PK01972 It’s not overwhelming at all. In relative terms, it never has been. It’s a huge selling point for the Red Wings.
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@Phillysports89 Of course hockey matters in Philly. I think the media would be too much for Suter. My opinion.
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@DavePHLFlyers Difference between those cities is that in Pittsburgh, Crosby draws all the attention.
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Philly fans seem surprised Suter doesn’t want to deal with a lot of media. They shouldn’t be.


Update #14: And the Tennessean’s Josh Cooper, who thought all of this business was “silly,” and that he wasn’t “going to go near it,” suddenly fired this off:

With speculation swirling that a contingent of Red Wings management types went to Madison, Wisconsin to meet the prized free agent Ryan Suter — that’s Suter’s offseason home — the Predators say there are no plans for General Manager David Poile to make a return trip to Madison to meet with Suter at this particular instance. Poile did so in early June after the Memorial Day holiday. Of course, this could change.

Nashville is currently in a holding pattern with Suter, waiting to receive word from him on his plans. It’s believed the Predators will have the last crack at negotiations with Suter.

Let’s all feel touched that Cooper chose to grace us with his comments.


Update #15: Crap, per Helene St. James:

DET GM Ken Holland met with Ryan Suter today. No decision imminent. Probably won’t come before Thursday. #RedWings

Update #16: Here’s more form Sr. James, who’s revised her Suter story:

The agent for unrestricted free agent defenseman Ryan Suter—a top target of the Detroit Red Wings—said his client is making progress but won’t be rushed. General manager Ken Holland met today with Suter at his off-season home in Madison, Wisc., arriving back in Detroit late this afternoon. Holland was not immediately available for comment.

The Wings made an offer of $80 million over 13 years to Suter on Sunday, and have since increased the money to $90 million.

The issue isn’t so much money as a whole, rather the salary-cap hit, as the Wings are concerned about retaining flexibility under a new collective bargaining agreement. Their top offer of $90 million averages to a cap hit of $6.9 million, which would put Suter among the leaders for defensemen.

Suter also is being courted by his former team, Nashville, as well as Philadelphia and Minnesota. His agent, Neil Sheehy, told the Free Press, “a decision is forthcoming,” but wouldn’t say whether it will come today.

“For a young man who is looking to commit to 13 years, I find it strange that people expect him to make a decision within hours or days. Everything needs to be carefully considered. Today is another day—really, there is nothing else I can say.”
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The Wings offered a two-year deal to defenseman Sami Salo on Sunday, but he ended up signing with Tampa Bay.


Update #17: Via RedWingsFeed, MLive’s Brendan Savage posits the following airport stake-out report:

A Red Wings’ contingent that included owner Mike Ilitch, general manager Ken Holland and advisor Chris Chelios flew to Madison Tuesday on Ilitch’s private plane to make a pitch to Suter in person.

The plane returned to a private terminal at Detroit Metro Airport at 4:20 p.m. but reporters were not allowed on the grounds to speak with team personnel.

MLive.com sent an email and left a phone message for Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy, seeking comment but he did not respond. Holland also did not respond to phone messages.

But according to Kevin Allen of USA Today, Sheehy said in an email this afternoon that Suter would not make a decision today.

Suter was one of top two free agents to hit the market this year – New Jersey forward Zach Parise is the other – and the Red Wings are among several teams who covet his services.

A source told MLive.com Sunday that the Red Wings initial offer to Suter was 12 years for $90 million (salary cap hit of $7.5 million).

Update #17.5: And sir sanctimonious from Nashville offers this update to his story:

According to Ryan Suter’s agent Neil Sheehy, there will be “no decision” from Suter today. No indication in the email on whether Suter met with teams.

Update #18: And this is no surprise, from Michael Russo of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

#redwings weren’t only team to meet w Suter today. #MNWild owner Craig Leipold, GM Chuck Fletcher & coach Mike Yeo just landed from Madison
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Agent Neil Sheehy was also on the flight. Wild clearly picked up Sheehy in Intl Falls and gave him lift to Madison for both mtgs #MNWild
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Fletcher, Leipold and Yeo would not comment to me. Fletcher said he can’t speculate as to what happens w Suter/Parise #MNWild

 

Update #19: From the Minneapolis Star-Tribune’s Michael Russo:

For the first time Tuesday, the Wild met face-to-face with Nashville Predators defenseman Ryan Suter.

It appears as if Tuesday morning, Wild owner Craig Leipold, GM Chuck Fletcher and coach Mike Yeo boarded a private plane at St. Paul Airport and flew to International Falls to pick up Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy.

They then gave him a lift to Madison for the meeting with Suter. Also Tuesday, the Red Wings also reportedly met with Suter in Madison.

Late Tuesday afternoon, the Wild brass returned to St. Paul with Sheehy, who then flew back to International Falls.

Leipold, Fletcher and Yeo, though cordial at the airport, wouldn’t comment. Fletcher said he couldn’t speculate as to what Parise and Suter would decide.

Cotsonika on Detroit’s “hockey environment”:

@lionsinwinter Detroit would be perfect. People care, but it isn’t out of control. Problem is, same is true in PIT or MIN or even NSH.

No surprise #1, from Ted Kulfan:

Back from the Great Plane Chase…saw what appeared Ilitch and Chelios from a distance…LIke I mentioned, we were not allowed in the hangar

No surprise #2, from Larry Lage:

Ryan Suter agent: No decision today from Ryan Suter

Update #20: Oh, sure, why not? From MLive’s Brendan Savage:

The Detroit Red Wings weren’t the only team that had representatives meeting with free-agent defenseman Ryan Suter today.

According to Minneapolis Star Tribune hockey writer Michael Russo, the Minnesota Wild also flew representatives to Madison, Wis., to make a pitch for Suter.

“Owner Craig Leipold, GM Chuck Fletcher & coach Mike Yeo just landed from Madison,” Russo said on Twitter. “Agent Neil Sheehy was also on the flight. Wild clearly picked up Sheehy in Intl Falls and gave him lift to Madison for both mtgs.”

The Red Wings contingent included owner Mike Ilitch, general manager Ken Holland and advisor Chris Chelios, who flew to Madison on Ilitch’s private plane.

Russo met the Wild contingent at the airport in Minnesota but wrote they would not comment on their meeting with Suter.

Russo also Tweeted, “Best part of story is Leipold’s plane is presently taking Sheehy back to Intl falls. Hope #redwings pick up some of the cost smile.”

Sheehy, Suter’s agent, did not return an email or phone message to MLive.com but he told Kevin Allen of USA Today in an email that Suter would not make a decision today.

And from ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun:

Ryan Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy, told ESPN.com via email at 5:47 p.m. ET, “No decision today from Ryan Suter.”

Neither Sheehy nor the Detroit Red Wings would comment on or confirm the Detroit News report that Wings GM Ken Holland flew to Madison, Wisc., to meet with Suter in person.

Meanwhile, Wade Arnott, agent for Zach Parise, told ESPN.com at 6 p.m. ET that it was unlikely a decision would be taken Tuesday night, although he didn’t totally close the door on it.

Update #21: Via RedWingsFeed, here’s the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan’s report:

The Red Wings, by all indications, paid a visit Tuesday to defenseman Ryan Suter in Madison, Wis., in their bid to lure the talented free agent to Detroit. Wings owner Mike Ilitch and Chris Chelios, an advisor to general manager Ken Holland, apparently traveled to Madison to meet with Suter. Chelios, a former Red Wings defenseman, played college hockey at Wisconsin.

According to FlightAware.com, a Gulfstream plane licensed to Olympia Aviation LLC, left Detroit Metro Airport for Madison at 11:17 a.m. Tuesday. It arrived at Dane County Regional Airport in Madison at 12:08, departed at 3:30 and arrived back in Detroit at 4:19. Ilitch and Chelios left the private hangar at 29900 Northline Road in Romulus in separate cars — Chelios driving his car, Ilitch as a passenger.

Reporters were not permitted to get close to the hangar.

Suter, who is entertaining offers after seven seasons with the Nashville Predators, lives on a farm in Madison.

The Wings planned on sending Ilitch and Chelios to meet with Suter on Sunday, when free agency began. But Suter and agent Neil Sheehy said no face-to-face meetings would take place due to the volume of offers Suter had received.

Chelios could be a good recruiter in Detroit’s bid to land Suter. In addition to playing at Wisconsin, like Suter, Chelios also played with Gary Suter (Ryan’s uncle) with the Chicago Blackhawks. Chelios and Gary Suter entered the USA Hockey Hall of Fame together last autumn.
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He has played previously with at least one member of the Red Wings. Goaltender Jimmy Howard trained with Suter in the national program in Ann Arbor in 2001 and 2002, and was in net for the 2002 Under-18 gold medal victory and the 2003 World Junior Championship.

Suter is the son of Bob Suter, who won the gold in the “Miracle on Ice” 1980 Olympics, and nephew of Gary Suter, who played 1,145 games as an NHL defenseman for 16 seasons and was the first U.S.-born player to win the Calder Trophy (rookie).


Update the last: Via RedWingsFeed again, WXYZ’s Brad Galli filed a report…

The news keeps changing, and we’re left with more answers than questions. Who’s talking to whom? Who’s going where? Is a decision coming soon?

The Red Wings continued their pursuit of the two biggest names on the free agent market Tuesday. There are, indeed, no imminent decisions, but it is apparent Ken Holland and the Red Wings brass is still aggressively seeking a slam dunk combination.

Reports trickled out early Tuesday morning that head coach Mike Babcock was spotted in the Minneapolis airport, seeking a face-to-face encounter with left wing Zach Parise. Parise, speaking to the media Monday, affirmed he planned to head home to speak to his fiancé and family about his decision.

Detroit offered the former Devils forward a contract Sunday, and the offer is believed still be very much on the table. The Red Wings are reportedly still in Parise’s “list” of teams, joining the Devils and Penguins.

Ryan Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy, told reporters Tuesday, his client will not make a decision until Thursday at the earliest.

That doesn’t mean the Red Wings are resting their case. Late in the afternoon, owner Mike Ilitch and team advisor Chris Chelios arrived back in Detroit after meeting with Suter in Madison, Wisconsin. The team declined to confirm the meeting.

Suter met with the Red Wings brass and members of the Minnesota Wild Tuesday.

The reported offer from Detroit to the 27-year old defenseman was originally for 13 years and $80 million, but that has been upped to $90 million. As Parise and Suter wait to sign their new deals, the rest of the NHL is in somewhat of a holding pattern. Yet one thing remains certain: the Red Wings will be working through the holiday.

Here’s the video accompanying the story:

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Surfer Ken's avatar

Suter’s cow says it’s done deal.

= liquid flying out of my nose.

Good one.

Posted by Surfer Ken from San Clemente on 07/03/12 at 05:19 PM ET

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IT’S LANDING

Posted by Herm from the office on 07/03/12 at 05:19 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

Looking like all the “players” get to hold court with Agent and Suter

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/03/12 at 05:20 PM ET

13datsyukfan13's avatar

I’m watching that flight track .. the plane just turned around!!!

Posted by 13datsyukfan13 from Mid Michigan on 07/03/12 at 05:20 PM ET

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And around!! :(

Posted by 13datsyukfan13 from Mid Michigan on 07/03/12 at 05:21 PM ET

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@Surfer Ken on twitter @RyanSutersCow

Posted by cowboycoffee from San Francisco, CA on 07/03/12 at 05:21 PM ET

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Ilitch is having fun with with FlightAware.

“Spinning nigga, it’s spinning”

Posted by Herm from the office on 07/03/12 at 05:28 PM ET

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Maybe they are writing “we got him” in the sky

Posted by wingsnut25 from Cheboygan, MI on 07/03/12 at 05:31 PM ET

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Damn, I’m glad we “lost” out on Salo.

Posted by godblender on 07/03/12 at 05:33 PM ET

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FlightAware says it landed 15 minutes ago, and still no word. Don’t these people realize that we have no lives and our entire existence revolves around Red Wings Hockey?

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/03/12 at 05:35 PM ET

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Three thoughts:
1. If there was any doubt that the Wings were pursuing more than one defenseman, the Sami Salo info seems to shoot that down.
2. All we’re missing is the helicopter and OJ
3. I still want that thinofabobber to alert me on the computer when Suter/Parise actually announce a team, so George, please get us one (it’s not like you’re busy).

Posted by Bugsy on 07/03/12 at 05:35 PM ET

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I’m watching that flight track .. the plane just turned around!!!

Posted by 13datsyukfan13 from Mid Michigan on 07/03/12 at 04:20 PM ET

There was a thunderstorm in the area so it had to change its path to avoid the storm. haha pretty amazing stuff

Posted by yzer19man from Chicago, IL on 07/03/12 at 05:36 PM ET

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Tweet o’ the Day

@lethargicj: Sorry Preds fans. Footage of Ryan Suter trying on his Red Wings uniform just arrived. http://tinyurl.com/cuzwlfu

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/03/12 at 05:40 PM ET

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Hey George, is this tweet for reals? Or is it another douche toying with our fragile psyches?

@K_Robichaud911

Ryan Suter agrees to Redwings 13-year $90 million offer. Press conference to be held @ 7pm est.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/03/12 at 05:50 PM ET

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This via @AnsarKhanMLive: Wings plane returned from Madison 20 minutes ago. Media not allowed on grounds. No interviews allowed.

Posted by Ducksworth from Brownstown, MI on 07/03/12 at 05:53 PM ET

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no interviews allowed because illitch and holland are pissed they flew out for nothing? or because ryan suter is being snuck into joe louis

Posted by Adam from Detroit on 07/03/12 at 05:55 PM ET

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Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 07/03/12 at 04:50 PM ET

He must be related to Pee-air.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/03/12 at 05:56 PM ET

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Kevin Allen says no decision today.

Posted by Herm from the office on 07/03/12 at 06:01 PM ET

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Well this is something to wake up to…

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 07/03/12 at 06:04 PM ET

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Read the last update. USA Today’s Kevin Allen says Neil Sheehy said no decision today.

But it’s pretty *#$%@& awesome that the Twitter world and Wings fans ended up pushing the Detroit News, MLive and ESPN’s Craig Custance to go to Metro Airport to try and talk to Ilitch—and then get the usual brush-off that the Wings’ media relations people tend to give.

From what I was told—and I must state that this came from someone who knew a Wings employee, so take that with salt, as he told me to do—Ken Holland and Mike Babcock were part of the contingent, and I would imagine that Mike Ilitch and Chris Chelios went as well.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/03/12 at 06:05 PM ET

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So tomorrow there’s a whole other day of stalking Suter (and Parise, to a lesser extent) AND Libertadores Cup final.

Heart attack, here I come.

Posted by Herm from the office on 07/03/12 at 06:06 PM ET

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ARGH

Posted by RyanVM on 07/03/12 at 06:07 PM ET

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Just saw a tweet by Josh Yohe the trib Beat writer for the Pens & he tweeted that IF the Pens get Suter they would most likely trade Paul Martin to Nashville.

Found that very weird since Pens seem to be so focused on Parise or at leasst the Media is.

Sorry Guys didn’t
t want to Cluster%&%$ your day anymore with Suter not signing till at least tomorrow

Posted by Evilpens on 07/03/12 at 06:18 PM ET

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Posted by Evilpens on 07/03/12 at 05:18 PM ET


LOL, cluster%$%& our day with rampant unsupported speculation by a homer beat writer?

Also, in what world does any team want Paul Martin and his contract?

Posted by WingsFaninCO on 07/03/12 at 06:26 PM ET

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This is the third evening I’ve been watching this crap, I’ve got no worries about the two fellas taking the time to decide, I’m just sick of staring at this damn laptop refreshing every five minutes. That plane stuff got me so excited and now nothing.

Blue balls. Blue. Balls.

Posted by jimathor from The land of Sir Humblepatch of Bumblehound on 07/03/12 at 06:30 PM ET

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Nashville & Tampa are were after Martin at the draft, The Change in system that Jack Adams’ came up with totally screwed up Michalek who is already gone & Martin who might be next

Posted by Evilpens on 07/03/12 at 06:40 PM ET

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“I’m excited for it to be over pretty soon,” Parise said.

...Ryan Suter - a top target of the Detroit Red Wings - said his client is making progress, but won’t be rushed.

No Suter decision today, says his agent, Neil Sheehy.

Fuch both of these A-holes. I get the concept of taking a day to weigh all of the components of accepting a “lifetime” contract. But two days (when you’ve known for six months who was going to be in the mix)? That’s just bad planning on their part. And now a third day and they can’t figure it out? Fuch ‘em both.

Right now, I’ve got more respect for Tootoo than I do for these two prima donnas.

Bottom line is they’re dragging this out to try to up the price – all while claiming that “money isn’t the most important thing.” Horse manure.

I hope they both end up with the Wild for 13 years at a gajillion dollars. Because the bottom line will be they’ll be with the Wild for 13 years.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/03/12 at 07:07 PM ET

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In addition to the stunning neighborhoods around suburban Detroit, I would imagine Mr. I’s team planes themselves are incentives as well.  I don’t know if the money-grubbing ownership committee in NSH have a team plane (I don’t think they do since they are, after all, all about the bottom line), but a lot of players have raved about the Wings’ private jets.  No more flying commercial or even business class anymore.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 07/03/12 at 07:08 PM ET

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My ringtone is the Pure Michigan music,
Posted by Itrusteddrrahmani from Nyc by way of A2 on 07/03/12 at 03:32 PM ET

My ringtone is “Aprillllll,  Aprill in the Deeee”  from 2011.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/03/12 at 07:20 PM ET

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Again, the Wings met Suter, the Wild met him today, not sure who else was on the dockett…But if we are to believe Sanctimonious Cooper and Cotsonika, I would imagine that the “spotlight” is actually a little less bright in Detroit than Minny…But what the flibberdyjibbit do I know?

Meh. I hope Suter signs here. The MSM “people in the know” keep on saying that *their* sources indicate—well, okay, the MSM minus Cooper—that Parise is leaning toward Pittsburgh or New Jersey, while Suter is leaning toward Detroit. Take that for what its’ worth.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/03/12 at 07:21 PM ET

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Don’t these people realize that we have no lives and our entire existence revolves around Red Wings Hockey?

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 07/03/12 at 04:35 PM ET

I know there’s at least one Marie Callender’s up from Santa Ana on Katella.  Go get some pie!

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/03/12 at 07:22 PM ET

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Sorry Guys didn’t want to Cluster%&%$ your day anymore
Posted by Evilpens on 07/03/12 at 05:18 PM ET

loll because everything here is so on the money factual !!  lol

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/03/12 at 07:24 PM ET

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Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/03/12 at 06:21 PM ET

I know there are other Suitors, but if his decision came down to commit to a career with the Wild or Detroit, then welcome to Hockeytown, Ryan and Cow.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/03/12 at 07:28 PM ET

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You don’t suppose the Wings already have an offer in for Carle regardless now, do you? If they were trying for Salo and lost him to Tampa Bay, they’re trying for a second defenseman as well.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/03/12 at 07:35 PM ET

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You don’t suppose the Wings already have an offer in for Carle regardless now, do you? If they were trying for Salo and lost him to Tampa Bay, they’re trying for a second defenseman as well.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/03/12 at 06:35 PM ET

Yeah the “secondary” market must be very interesting.  Some franchise could end up with a whole lot of nothing if they’re a finalist for Suter and Parise, get neither, and the Plan Bs are already signed and gone for half the money, or less.

A Detroit team plussed up with Carle and Doan, for instance, may not be too much off one with Suter and Parise, with the caveat that Parise would be around a lot longer than Doan.

If we lose on Parise and don’t have another forward signed, I would wave $4 - 5M at captain Shane Doan on July 8.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/03/12 at 07:59 PM ET

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The only thing that worries me, if it truly is down to Detroit or the Wild, is that the drive from the Minneapolis-St. Paul area is only 5 hours.

The chance to win a cup vs. the comfort of being easily able to drive to your old farm…  hope he wants the cup more.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 07/03/12 at 08:38 PM ET

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If we lose out on Suter, we give Carle a good offer and hope he takes it. He can put up 40 points a year without an All-Star partner and he’ll come a bit cheaper.

If we don’t get either of them, we roll with what we’ve got, or we attempt to trade for Yandle, but that’s highly doubtful.

Worst case scenario is we roll with the 6 people we have now and hope that Smith, Ericsson and Kindl have come as far along on their development as the Wing’s braintrust keeps stating, as well as hoping the Quincey has a resurgent year.

As far as Parise goes, at the beginning I was under the impression that we wouldn’t get him as we were closer and closer to actual free agency. I’d rather have Semin over Doan because of youth and my belief that he can mature. I also think that Datsyuk being his friend can help to mitigate his attitude. I wouldn’t be upset if we got Doan, but, I’d rather have Semin.

While I’m growing tired of this circus, I understand their desire to take time and take the holiday for the time to make a big decision. I also feel it’s our own creation and obsession, we could be doing any number of other things to occupy our time, but the dog days of summer say otherwise.

Posted by Zach Alexander on 07/03/12 at 08:39 PM ET

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Meh. I hope Suter signs here. The MSM “people in the know” keep on saying that *their* sources indicate—well, okay, the MSM minus Cooper—that Parise is leaning toward Pittsburgh or New Jersey, while Suter is leaning toward Detroit. Take that for what its’ worth.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/03/12 at 06:21 PM ET

I could deal with no Parise if we get Suter. This whole circus is getting tiring though and I missed Saturday and Sunday due to no power.

Posted by HockeyFanOhio from Central Ohio on 07/03/12 at 08:47 PM ET

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First off, GREAT time-line George!! Awesome work!

Second, Hats off to the I’s for going and meeting this man in person. It says to me “yes, you will get anything you need in Detroit, but we are men, human beings, and we treat each other as such.” Illich isn’t going to throw 90 mil of his and the people of Detroits’ money at a stat sheet, and Suter isn’t going to get hired, fired, praised or kicked in the ass by a lackey who was just instructed by a board to do so!
They only thing nephew Ryan needs to decide is if he wants to play hockey somewhere or does he want to have a chance to win every year, be treated as an adult male human being and have his legacy adorned next to the likes of Fetisov, Konstantinov, Lidstrom, Coffey, Yzerman, Shannahan ect ect ect.

Here you are part of a legacy. A part of something FOREVER. Very few teams can offer that, and NONE that are relevant here and now and forever… Here your name will mean something to peoples grandchildren, great grandchildren. He can get a 1000 million anywhere in the league, he can only get all of this in Detroit.

Posted by christpuncher from Detroit, MI on 07/03/12 at 09:02 PM ET

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George, I heartily encourage the “update 22x” versus 22 new threads, since this is pretty much the same topic.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/03/12 at 09:07 PM ET

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