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Khan: Red Wings’ ‘Osgood watch’ to reach its conclusion on Monday or Tuesday

Not exactly stunning news from MLive’s Ansar Khan: Red Wings GM Ken Holland hasn’t yet met with Chris Osgood in the pair’s off-season haunt, Vernon, British Columbia, and he’s going to take the weekend to listen to Osgood and then decide what the team does in terms of both its back-up goaltender’s situation—and Kris Draper’s future might take even longer to be determined:

“I anticipate early next week I’ll know what I’m going to do in goal,’’ Holland said.

The Red Wings pursued several goalies through free agency, including Tomas Vokoun, who signed with Washington, Jose Theodore (Florida) and Mike Smith (Phoenix). But all wanted starting roles and weren’t interested in backing up Jimmy Howard and playing only 20-25 games. Holland has talked with the agent for former Red Wing Ty Conklin, who remains an option. Marty Turco and Ray Emery are among the few other free-agent goalies still unsigned. Holland said he also was offered a goalie through a trade.

“I have been in contact with agents of other goalies,’’ Holland said. “They know where I’m at, but right now the goalie market is pretty settled. We have time on our hands. If some team decides to get in the mix with one of those goalies then that could accelerate the process.’‘

The Red Wings are in no rush because it doesn’t appear that any other team is in the market for a goalie.

“We have a backup plan,’’ Holland said. “Part of that plan was to sign Joey MacDonald (who they inked on Monday to a two-year deal). He’s a bit of an insurance policy.’‘

Holland also remains in contact with forward Kris Draper, another long-time Red Wing who would like to return for his 18th season in Detroit.

“I have been in communication with Kris Draper,’’ Holland said. “We’ll talk again early next week.’‘

The Free Press’s Helene St. James focused on Draper’s fate:

“No doubt he wants to play . . . and play in Detroit,” Holland said. “We don’t have any cap issues, but we have to sort out what we’re doing with our 14 forwards.”

Draper, 40, showed last season that he still has something left in the tank. His primary role was as a defensive role player, but he also contributed six goals and 11 points in 47 games, and didn’t complain when made a healthy scratch. He has tremendous value in the locker room, where he sets a great example for younger guys with a relentless training program.

The Wings certainly can fit Draper in financially; they have about $6.5 million in salary-cap space. Roster-wise, however, it’s a hard fit. Thirteen forwards already are under one-way contracts for 2011-12. Cory Emmerton, a second-round pick from ‘06, is on a two-day deal, but he’d have to be exposed on waivers to be sent to the minors, and the Wings won’t risk that.

It’s possible the Wings make a trade - they have forwards and defensemen to spare - but even so, there will be very tough competition right down to the fourth line.

It’s doubtful Draper would go the route that Kirk Maltby tried last season, when he signed a two-way deal and tried to make the team during camp. When he wasn’t able to do so, Maltby retired and took a job in the organization as a scout.

Draper has been with Detroit since 1993, helped win four Stanley Cups, topped 1,000 games as a Wing and served as an alternate captain since ‘06-07. Should he, as expected, not be offered another contract as a player, Holland will discuss finding a different job for Draper within the organization, following a path also taken by Steve Yzerman and Chris Chelios.

 

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Chris in Hockey Hell's avatar

Anyone happen to catch the “news” at Klessel’s site tonight?

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 07/15/11 at 01:19 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

To quote my boss, “Three-way deals never happen.”

It’s irrational.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/15/11 at 01:34 AM ET

Chris in Hockey Hell's avatar

“Three-way deals never happen.”

Don’t those cost extra?

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 07/15/11 at 01:37 AM ET

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Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/14/11 at 11:34 PM ET

Why don’t three-way deals happen in Hockey like they do in Basketball?

Posted by Itrusteddrrahmani from Nyc by way of A2 on 07/15/11 at 01:39 AM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

Er…what ‘pipedream’ are we talking about?

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/15/11 at 01:45 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

Hard cap. That’s why a 3-way deal is so hard to accomplish.

And it’s this Semin crap again, via Eklund. I don’t care how much in love people fall with this deal—it ain’t happening. The Wings need a back-up goalie and they need that cap space to play with should Ian White and improved contributions from Niklas Kronwall and Jakub Kindl not fill Brian Rafalski’s skates, and they need that cap space in case the big, fast grinding forward they needed versus the Sharks becomes available at the trade deadline. Now is not the time to get married to another inconsistent forward.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/15/11 at 01:51 AM ET

Hockeytown Wax's avatar

“It’s possible the Wings make a trade - they have forwards and defensemen to spare…”

Eklund keeps tweeting Alex Semin is a Red Wing trade target.
I tweeted back “Only if Caps take both Hudler AND Ericsson straight up”.

OK ... so he’s making the same $6.7 mil. as Datsyuk, he’s a right hand shot which would fit nice on the PP but what would the 5 on 5 lines look like ??

Semin is definitely a 1st liner so that would bump either Z or Homer. If Z goes to the 2nd line then Cleary gets screwed and sent to the 3rd line.  If Homer gets bumped then he’s gonna be boned because he’d most likely end up on the 3rd line.  Not a bad problem to have as a team, plenty of interchangeable parts, but someones going to be a bit miffed at getting less icetime.

As for the goalie situation ... I say bring back Conklin.

Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 07/15/11 at 01:55 AM ET

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So what do we figure, the goalie situation will be cleared up around, say, Christmas?

Posted by Garth on 07/15/11 at 01:57 AM ET

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Datsyuk-Franzen-Homer
Zetterberg-Filppula-Semin

Cleary gets screwed and sent to the 3rd line.

Making both our top six and our bottom six stronger.

But why would a team want that?

Posted by Garth on 07/15/11 at 02:02 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

Why do people believe Eklund? And why the hell did the Wings just sign Ericsson to that deal if they were to create a hole on their defense and no longer have the cap space to fill it?

Give me a break here. Eklund makes stuff up. This is not fantasy land.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/15/11 at 02:07 AM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

We have a backup plan,’’ Holland said. “Part of that plan was to sign Joey MacDonald…

With the way he played last year, I’d be every bit as comfortable with Joey Mac as I would with Conklin. And I’d rather have either of them than Ozzie.

As for Ekturd, it was proven a year ago that his “success” rate on predictions was less than 4%. Hell, even Obama tells the truth more often than that – although just barely. smile

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/15/11 at 02:16 AM ET

Hockeytown Wax's avatar

“why the hell did the Wings just sign Ericsson to that deal”

George ... thats the 5 bazillion dollar question we’re all asking.

Maybe the deep dark insider secret is that the Wings’ braintrust is secretly working on moving Ericsson back to forward, turning him into Keith Primeau v2.0.

I think Ian White is going to play some awesome hockey once he’s comfortable in the Red Wing system. Kindl looked great at the end of last season and will only get better. Ericsson still had that ‘deer in the headlights’ look on his face and was terrified to carry the puck out of his own zone.

Getting rid of Ericsson would create a hole on D ??  He’ll be gnawing on pine way before the all star break. They signed him to that contract because its the “going rate” and puts him in the ‘reasonable’ salary category, so using him as trade bait isn’t out of the question.

We’ll see what happens in training camp. If Brendan Smith is half as good as Chelios says he is then there is no hole on D.

As an afterthought .... Brendan Morrison might be a nice addition to our 3rd line with Helmer and Big Bert.  If Bertuzzi & Morrison can make Helm look half as good as Markus Naslund ..... hmmmmmm

Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 07/15/11 at 02:28 AM ET

Chris in Hockey Hell's avatar

Actually, OTC, according to the site hockeybuzzhogwash.com, Klessel’s success rate is 2.3%.

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 07/15/11 at 03:14 AM ET

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Brendan Morrison might be a nice addition to our 3rd line

I think the last thing the Red Wings need is another bottom six forward…

Posted by Garth on 07/15/11 at 10:51 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Eklund IS wrong most of the time.

I’m just not hoping this is one of them.  I would like to see Detroit go after Semin.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/15/11 at 11:14 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

I’m just not hoping this is one of them.  I would like to see Detroit go after Semin.

Me too. Getting rid of Hudler while getting another great Russian, who makes a lot of money but it’s on a one-year deal? I don’t know how that’s a bad thing. Also, wouldn’t we still have more than $2 million in the cap room?

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/15/11 at 11:38 AM ET

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Also, wouldn’t we still have more than $2 million in the cap room?

With Semin, without Hudler, and no backup, it’s $3,2 million. Even if the Conk asks for a full mil, that’s still $2,2M (or Joe Mac, making $550k, leaving $2,7M).

I have no idea who’s tradeable, but I’d make that move any day of the week.


I don’t care how much in love people fall with this deal—it ain’t happening.

You’ll never let us dream, will ya’?

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/15/11 at 11:52 AM ET

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