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Jagr conference call breaks the BS meter

Updated 3x with the full presser transcript at 2:49 PM: I truly hope that someone will post a full transcript of Jaromir Jagr’s conference call with the media on Saturday, because the Twitter updates regarding his commentary suggest that he quite literally broke the bull[expletive] meter while rationalizing his decision to sign with the Philadelphia Flyers for $3.3 million dollars, spurning both the Detroit Red Wings and Pittsburgh Penguins, as more aesthetically pleasing (because the Flyers have right-handed centers), somewhat selfless (more money was on the table from other teams…in…some league…) and absolutely, positively not the product of stringing anyone along or making false promises, as noted by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review’s Josh Yohe:

Jaromir Jagr is not apologizing for not signing with the Penguins: “I didn’t promise anybody anything,” Jagr said in a conference call Saturday. “If the Penguins feel like I did something wrong, you know, I didn’t feel like I did anything wrong. If they feel like that, I can’t change their minds.”

Jagr said he had a brief conversation with Penguins Mario Lemieux. When asked if his relationship with Lemieux was damage, Jagr did not give a specific answer: “I talked with him once,” Jagr said. “Wasn’t for very long. He talked about the organization. I didn’t talk with him since I left the NHL.”

Jagr said money was not the deciding factor in choosing the Flyers: “There were a lot more teams offering more money than Philadelphia,” he said.

These teams may have included SKA St. Petersburg, Atlant Mytischi and Avangard Omsk…

Jagr spoke at length about not signing with the Penguins: “If I hurt somebody,” he said, “I apologize. I want people to understand that this is my life. It is tough for me to explain in English. It would be easier in Czech. But hopefully you can understand what I’m trying to stay.”
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He spoke longer about not signing with Pittsburgh than any other subject, indicating that he was upset that so many believed a handshake deal with the Penguins was in place. Jagr said that he thinks Philadelphia has an excellent team and that he has been keeping track of the league while in Europe: “I only have one goal,” he said. “To make people happy.”

If those people include Jaromir Jagr, Petr Svoboda, Jaromir Jagr’s wallet and HBO’s 24/7 crew, that’s true.\

Update: More Jagr Logic from Pro Hockey Talk’s James O’Brien…

Some readers might have a little trouble buying into what Jagr was selling during this press conference, but it was interesting nonetheless.

There were two other highlights (or low points) of the press conference. The first came when explained that playing with Philly’s two right-handed centers (Claude Giroux and Danny Briere) would work out better than skating alongside Pittsburgh’s two lefty pivots (Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin).

“If I were playing in Pittsburgh, Crosby and Malkin are both left handed,” Jagr said. “I don’t think I could play there. I don’t think I would have a chance to play there.”

If that didn’t stretch the boundaries of believability enough for you, check out the second most surprising comment from the press conference.

“I’ve got only one goal, that’s to make people happy,” Jagr said. “To make them happy — those who believed that I could be good. If those people are happy, I’m happy.”

And Philadelphia Sports Daily’s David Isaac:

he Flyers’ offer of one year at $3.3 million sounded perfect to him.

“I wanted one year,” Jagr said. “I’ve never thought about more than one year. I think it’s better for me and better for the team because you don’t know how it’s gonna go. You might think it’s gonna be good and hope it’s gonna go good, but there’s no guarantees.”

The Czech said that the choice to come to Philadelphia wasn’t about the money, even if the Flyers’ offer is $1.3 million more than the Penguins were willing to offer. He even said that there were more profitable offers than Philadelphia’s but he chose to come to the other side of Pennsylvania.

“I could easily stay in Russia, make a lot more money and play 50 games,” Jagr said. “But I wanted to try this.

Update #2: Uh, right, per NHL.com’s Dan Rosen:

“There is always going to be pressure. That’s not the problem,” Jagr said. “The only thing I worry about is there are a lot of people who counted on me to help them. If I fail or I play bad, people are going to criticize me and that’s fine. But, if I play bad, people are going to criticize those people who brought me to Philadelphia and that would be tough for me. That would be tough for me because I let somebody down who believed in me. In my age, that’s the toughest thing.”

Update #3: Here’s the full transcript of the presser, per the Delaware County Times’ Anthony J. Sanfilippo:

Q: Why Philadelphia, over Pittsburgh or other teams?

Before I start talking, it surprised me when you said money – there were a lot more teams with a higher offer than Philadelphia. I didn’t think I was going to go there, but after the conversation with the coaches and Chris Pronger, I started to like it and I also like that there is something to this from their side, and that was important to me.

Q: What did you like about Philadelphia that swayed you here?

“There’s a lot of things. When you’re talking to the GM and the coaches, you kind of have a sense of what they’re trying to do. I also liked that they made a great move with the goalies before I even signed with them. I follow a little bit of the NHL even though I haven’t been there for three years, I follow it, and I know Philadelphia’s defense is very good. There are some guys that when I was the NHL I played against and it was always tough to play against them. They’re not only good defensively, but they’re also good offensively, and that’s very important in the new style of the NHL. I’m going to have an opportunity to play a little more than [I would] with other teams. Philadelphia made those trades, and I know it’s going to be tough for the fans because the GM traded two very good players, and it’s not easy for the fans to see it, but I think it would be a lot easier for me to come in if the team stayed the way it was before, but you never know.

Q: Why now and not any time in the last three seasons?

“I had a contract. I couldn’t do it.”

Q: There was never any thought of trying to buy your way out of that, an offer strong enough from an NHL club?

“A few years ago, when I was leaving, when I was in the NHL, the Russian team came in February, during the season, and asked me if I wanted to go to Russia. Back then, I didn’t know. I was playing there during the lockout and I really liked it, everything about it. Back then I wanted to play for the New York Rangers, and I promised [Omsk] if I don’t make a deal with the New York Rangers, I’m going to go to Omsk. That’s what I promised them. Three years ago with the free agency, we couldn’t make any deals with Glen Sather. So like I promised, I signed with Avangard Omsk. But right after I signed, there were very good offers from the NHL. But I told myself I’m not going to look back, because I already did what I did. It was kind of tough to leave, because then I saw there was more interest from the NHL, but I had already made the promise. I know for some people it might be just words, but for me, I’m very religious, I know it would bite me a little later. I know that. That’s the way the word works.

Q: Would you have stayed in the NHL or were you happy with the decision to go to Russia for three years?

“That’s exactly what I said, that I’m not going to look back. I made the decision three years ago and I said I’m going to go over there. You just think it might be better, it might be worse. You never know. There’s only one life. We cannot compare it with anything else. You can match it, how it was going to be, but that’s not real. So I said I’m not going to look back, if I made a good decision or a bad decision. I just made the decision and stayed with it.

Q: Are you concerned that you may have damaged your relationship with Mario Lemieux over the last week?

“I talked to him once, and it wasn’t very long – just talked about the organization and how it would be. I didn’t talk to him since I was in the NHL. I didn’t promise anybody anything, that I was going back. The Penguins seemed like I did something wrong or something bad, and I don’t think I did something bad. If they feel like that, I cannot change their minds. I was a free agent, and I had my chance to pick wherever I think is best for me. Everybody does in the world. I have the option to pick. It doesn’t mean that if somebody wants you or they’re telling you they would like you to be on their team, that it means I have to go there – I still have the choice. At least that’s what I think. I still have the choice to make a decision where I’m going to go. If I hurt somebody, I apologize, I didn’t mean it, but this is my life and I want to make the choice. It’s tough for me to explain in English, it would be a lot easier for me to explain in Czech because I didn’t speak a lot of English in the last three years. I could even explain in Russian better. I have to learn better English now. But hopefully you guys understand what I’m trying to say.

Q: What are your impression of the Flyers centers and playing alongside them?

“I didn’t look at a roster… I wasn’t here for three seasons, and during those three years, when I looked at [all the NHL] lineups, all the new guys, there’s probably half of the young guys I don’t know. There are a lot of young guys in the league. When I looked, for me, [I looked for] a centerman, a good player like Briere or Giroux, who are right handed, have a right-handed shot. I like to play power play on the right side, and I think because they’re right-handed, they like to play on the other side. I think it would be a problem if I would play in Pittsburgh with Crosby or Malkin, left handed, and have to play on the other side, when I’ve played all my life on the right side, I don’t think I would be able to play there. Or if I go to Detroit, with Datsyuk and Zetterberg, they’re left-handed and they play on the boards where I used to play at. I don’t think I would have a chance to play at all. If I’m going to play good, at least I have a chance to play. That was the other thing I was thinking.

Q: The length, the one-year contract – is that mutual for both sides?

I wanted one year. I never talked about more than one year. I think it’s better for me, I think it’s better for the team, because you don’t know how things are going to go. You might think it’s going to be good, you might hope it’s going to be good, but there’s no guarantees. And if something goes wrong, why have two years? Why?

Q: You said something about the changing of the roster and it would be easier if those guys were still there. Are you talking about pressure on you because of who you are, and the expectations that could be put on you?

There’s always going to be pressure. That’s not the problem. The only thing I’m worried about is that there are a lot of people who counted on me to help them. If the things were only about myself, I’m not worried about it. If I play bad and people criticize me, that’s fine. But on the other side, if I play bad, people are going to criticize those people who brought me to Philadelphia. That would be tough for me. That’s the way I think. It would be tough for me because I let somebody down who believed in me. With my age, that’s the toughest thing. That’s the way I look at it.

Q: Do you feel after not being in the NHL for several years that you can jump back into NHL hockey and be a productive player?

I don’t know. There’s no guarantees. I hope so. If I didn’t believe that, I wouldn’t have come here. I could easily stay in Russia, make a lot more money and play 60 games. I wanted to try it. I wanted to have the feeling. I believe it’s for my good, and hopefully the team too.

Q: Have you set any goals for yourself?

“I have only one goal, and that’s making people happy. To make them happy, to those people who believe I can be good. That’s my goal. If I make them happy, I’ll be happy.

Q: How do you compare to yourself to when you last played in the NHL?

“I don’t know. You’d have to ask somebody else who saw me years ago and then saw me last month. I don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see.”

Q: Can you compare the level of play in the KHL to the NHL?

“I’ve always said that the league is a totally different game on the big ice. That’s why there’s so many great players who play on the small ice that when they come on the big ice, they can’t play. It’s a totally different game. It’s tough to compare. If you had asked me three years ago, I would have told you I love to play on the small ice. I played there for 17 years. I felt a lot stronger than anybody, and I can play on the boards. It was a lot easier for me to play hockey on the small ice. But when I get to the big ice, I had to get used to it. I couldn’t play the same style. I had to change, had skate a lot more. You cannot stand. You have to skate a lot more. I think I’m better than I was, but you have to skate all the time. If you stand there, you don’t have a chance to play on the big ice.

Q: Conditioning-wise, the Flyers were talking about how you have re-committed yourself.

“Well, I don’t think I recommitted. I’ve always been a hard worker. If I didn’t work hard I wouldn’t have a chance to play. If you want to be the best, if you want to be one o the best, you have to work extremely hard. There’s no other secret. The more you work, the better you’re going to be. I was really lucky in Pittsburgh. I always loved to work when I was younger. But I came to Pittsburgh when I was younger, and there were different players who were extremely hard-working guys like Paul Coffey, Kevin Stevens, Rick Tocchet. I loved it. I think for the young players, if you have a chance to watch the older guys and how they work, it’s going to help you. They show you the different ways of thinking. Young guys, I don’t think you know if you’re young. You just have to make the next step. They challenged me. Paul Coffey, I’ll always remember, he always told me, you have to do whatever I do. And I know it was tough for me, but he always you said you have to do it, and I did it. And thanks to him and those guys, I’m still playing.

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SYF's avatar

Yeah, he’s full of it.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 07/02/11 at 03:38 PM ET

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Get over it…there was no firm deal with Pittsburgh and Philly’s better anyway

Posted by T from Montreal on 07/02/11 at 03:41 PM ET

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As much as I’d like to say this is the final chapter, this is just another of many more Jagr stories.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/02/11 at 03:42 PM ET

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Philly’s better anyway

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

Posted by cs6687 on 07/02/11 at 03:48 PM ET

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Whatever. This will make the Flyers’ early exit from next spring’s postseason just that much more amusing.

Posted by godblender on 07/02/11 at 03:50 PM ET

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To be honest, I don’t think there’s any way that Jagr can win here. There’s virtually nothing he could have said this morning that would have changed anyone’s minds.  People will always have their pre-conceived ideas about the choice he ultimately made, and about whether the negotiations by his agent were good faith or manipulative. 

Whatever the case, I’m certainly not going to miss his first visiting game in Pittsburgh this season… should be a doozy.

Posted by Alanah McGinley from British Columbia on 07/02/11 at 03:52 PM ET

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Not that I give a damn about either Jagr or Pittsburgh, but now that Phili completely blew up there team, especially the center position, Pitt is clearly the better choice for a winger to sign with.  Couple that with Jagr’s supposed personal connection with Pitt, and it shows that this signing was made for two reasons:  greed and ego..

And on Phili’s end, as long as you are gutting the franchise anyway, why not go ahead and take a swipe at your cross state rival by stealing away some of there history?!?!  I mean, its already become a circus there anyway, might as well add a clown.

Posted by Hootinani on 07/02/11 at 03:57 PM ET

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Jagr… again is Bi-Polar ! he changes his mind On a whim & what he says 1 second can be 180 degrees in the Opposite the next, I don’t know if someone asked him about his Playing for Mario for Minimum wage because of all he has done for me

Posted by Evilpens on 07/02/11 at 03:58 PM ET

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Philadelphia’s going to lose the Atlantic unless Jersey craps the bed again (yes, I’d put money on the Islanders not finishing last in the Atlantic next year).

Philly went from second-best collection of centers in the division to fourth-best in a span of three weeks. Their top 2 centers now are both better-suited for wing and have an average height of 5-8. Would I take Tavares and Nielsen over Briere and Giroux if all are forced to play C? You’re GD right I would.

The Flyers’ best player is 37 and had 4 surgeries last year. Their second-best defenseman is 36 and small.

They have a talented, headcase goalie who wilts in the playoffs signed for 10 more years.

They swapped out Powe and backfilled him with a smaller, slower, more expensive version of himself with a lot more miles on the odometer (nothing against Talbot, but at this point in his career, I would have traded him straight-up for Powe without a thought).

And, as an extra layer of glaze on the turd, they add Jagr, who is 39, fat

and one of the most-toxic, youngster-hating (Giroux and JVR are going to just loooooove this guy as a linemate) dressing-room personalities ever, to a room with chemistry problems and a vacuum of leadership.

Maybe I’m wrong, but Philadelphia is in for a loooong year, imo.

Posted by steviesteve on 07/02/11 at 04:24 PM ET

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Oh By the way T from Montreal Crack is VERY VERY bad for you

Yep the Flyers traded away Carter to BJ"s for Voracek & other stuff & Aaron Portzline said & I quote Jakub needs to grow up in a lot of ways & traded captain leadership top LA for Simmons & Brayden Schenn who wasn’t in the NHL with LA & they add Jagr & Petulant Bi-Polar drama Queen Who Pronger Dispises & gave 1.8 Mill to Talbot who had 8 Goals & 13 assists


I am going to enjoy Jagr destroying the Philly Locker room & remember boys & girls this is the city that Booed Santa Claus & a Judge in Philly set up & makeshift court in the Philly ols Stadiums to have hearings on people throwiing Snowballs Iceballs & Beer Bottles

He pulls the BOO HOO I’m Dying alive BS in Philly & they will have him on a spit roasting his ass

Posted by Evilpens on 07/02/11 at 04:29 PM ET

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By the way, Malik, you’ve been a beast on this most-surreal of beats.

Posted by steviesteve on 07/02/11 at 04:34 PM ET

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yes George has Been a beast on jagrgate

Posted by Evilpens on 07/02/11 at 04:36 PM ET

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whew, thank goodness he dissed Detroit, what a mess

Posted by Rdwings28 on 07/02/11 at 04:37 PM ET

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If those people include Jaromir Jagr, Petr Svoboda, Jaromir Jagr’s wallet and HBO’s 24/7 crew, that’s true.\

Let me put on my tin-foil hat here for just a second and wander through a wasteland of insanity.

Jaromir Jagr made a big deal about coming back to the NHL and people paid attention to that every day for about two weeks. 

When he finally DOES come back, he turns his back on Pittsburgh to sign with their most hated rivals - a super WWE-style stab in the back.

He does this in a year where Philly is playing in a winter classic against one of his old teams and a year where Philly is going to be followed around with video cameras.

As a reminder, Philly is owned by Comcast, which is owned by NBC, which has the rights to broadcast the Winter Classic.

Jagr’s press conference here is all weak arguments for stupid things.

What I’m more concerned with is somebody getting a breakdown of what the NHL spends on “Advertising” and making sure that the league isn’t spending a dime on paying Jaromir Jagr to “advertise for them” by playing in Philadelphia.

I know… I know… it’s a stupid conspiracy theory.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/02/11 at 04:42 PM ET

edillac's avatar

I can buy that he likes to play with righ-handed centers,
wish that Pav and Hank had a good right-handed winger on their lines

Posted by edillac from isolation on 07/02/11 at 04:44 PM ET

Evilpens's avatar

UMMM yeah he had real trouble scoring with Ron Francis who was ..................................... wait for it ........................................... LeftHanded

Posted by Evilpens on 07/02/11 at 04:46 PM ET

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Oh & Marty Straka too who was also LH

Posted by Evilpens on 07/02/11 at 04:50 PM ET

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Maybe I’m wrong, but Philadelphia is in for a loooong year, imo.

See, that’s where I think you’re wrong.  With the roster they have, I’ll be very surprised if their year goes beyond 82 games.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 07/02/11 at 04:55 PM ET

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Remember that 19 year old kid who joyfully(I think it’s a word) made d-men look foolish . What-happened?

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 07/02/11 at 04:57 PM ET

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Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/02/11 at 02:42 PM ET

Dunno, but 24/7 just got a lot more interesting in the last couple of days. I’m sure the producers are already storyboarding the “what’s it like for a player to be away from his family” segment (Rupp, a guy featured last year with his family, who are remaining in Pitt) and a ‘what’s it like to join your hated enemy’ segment (Talbot, another player featured last year).

And who knows what explosions Jagr and Pronger (and maybe even Breezy) set off by being forced to coexist in the same space?

Now, if the Rangers would just trade for Hendricks or Green and the league would schedule a Flyers game against Columbus or LA, HBO would crap their collective pants at all the good fortune they’ve seen.

Posted by steviesteve on 07/02/11 at 05:01 PM ET

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See, that’s where I think you’re wrong.  With the roster they have, I’ll be very surprised if their year goes beyond 82 games.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 07/02/11 at 02:55 PM ET

Touche

Posted by steviesteve on 07/02/11 at 05:03 PM ET

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I know… I know… it’s a stupid conspiracy theory.


Yes it is… but one we can embrace wholeheartedly.

Posted by calquake on 07/02/11 at 05:04 PM ET

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Lindas1st Jagr has ALWAYS been about Jagr remember Him SCREAMING at Hlinka God Rest his soul going of the ice & Hlinka was brought in because Craig Patrick thought Hlinka could control Jagr more than Brooks Who couldn’t stand Jagr

Posted by Evilpens on 07/02/11 at 05:04 PM ET

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There’s virtually nothing he could have said this morning that would have changed anyone’s minds.

Maybe not, but he could’ve been smart and just shut his mouth.

Posted by Garth on 07/02/11 at 05:43 PM ET

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@ Evil

Yeah, but that was all post-mullet (1999-present). I really believe after Gretzky and Lemieux had retired and he became “the face of the league” he just crumbled inside. He was a man now and not the kid anymore and couldn’t handle it. A spoiled brat who now had to take on some responsibilities and just couldn’t. JMO.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 07/02/11 at 06:00 PM ET

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Just a reminder to Jags that the pens were not really interested until his idiot agent kept preaching how he wanted to come back the burgh.  and that the pens ( and wings) pulled their offer because they were no longer interested.  Had jagr not pushed to get an offer from the pens i bet shero never even looks at it.  Yet somehow he chose philly?  I think its more a matter of he ended up with philly because philly chose him with $$$  Congrats philly.  I could not be happier with how Jagrwatch ended.

Posted by Spike from pittsburgh on 07/02/11 at 06:14 PM ET

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Who else is getting excited about watching PHI and its schizoid locker room go down in flames like the Hindenburg this season?

As that other great Philly sports icon Terrell Owens put it, “Get yo popcorn!” folks!

Posted by thethirdcoast from Algiers, DZ on 07/02/11 at 06:22 PM ET

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Yet somehow he chose philly?

Why do people keep saying this?  He didn’t choose Philly, Philly was the only team left.

Montreal was supposedly interested yet never gave him an offer while both Pittsburgh and Detroit pulled their offers to him.

The only thing he chose was to desperately sign with any NHL team that gave him an actual offer in order to save face and not have to go back to the KHL with his tail between his legs.

Posted by Garth on 07/03/11 at 02:51 PM ET

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