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It’s decision day, and the Red Wings aren’t the favorites for Suter or Parise

Updated at 11:25 AM: If these players do not choose Detroit, it does not speak poorly of the Wings. It speaks poorly of their decision-making processes: Per the Free Press’s Helene St. James:

The Red Wings will find out today whether they’ve landed their no. 1 target on the free agent market: Defenseman Ryan Suter. A representative for Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy, posted a tweet this morning saying, “Client Ryan Suter plans on making a decision today.”

As of 10:30 Wednesday morning, the Red Wings hadn’t heard back from either of the two biggest catches on the free agent market.

They’ve made a 13 year, $90 million offer to Suter, who is their number one priority as they need to boost the back end after losing top-four defensemen Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart. The Wings have also tendered an offer to forward Zach Parise. Suter and Parise, both 27, are being chased by several teams, including Philadelphia, Chicago and Minnesota.

And MLive’s Brendan Savage:

The Minnesota Wild could be on the verge of pulling off one of the biggest free-agent coups in NHL history. Reports are emerging that Minnesota could be close to landing Nashville defenseman Ryan Suter and New Jersey forward Zach Parise, who are easily the most coveted free agents on the market this summer.

Michael Russo, a Wild beat writer for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, reported late Tuesday night that Parise was in Minneosta to meet with officials for the Wild, who also sent a contingent to Madison, Wis., to meet Suter face-to-face.

The Detroit Red Wings, who also would love to sign both players, sent owner Mike Ilitch, general manager Ken Holland and advisor Chris Chelios to Madison Tuesday in an effort to sign Suter.

“The Wild has made gargantuan long-term contract offers to both players,” Russo wrote. “Exact figures haven’t emerged, but teams interested in Parise are believed to be offering contracts worth $100 million and more, and Suter more than $80 million.

“Now it’s only a matter of the two deciding if they want to play together in Minnesota and be part of package to help shape the future of a franchise or choose other destinations. Yes, there is a likelihood the Wild will either land both or neither.”

This morning, Russo wrote on his blog. “Today could be the day that Zach Parise and Ryan Suter make their big decisions, and things are tracking in a positive way if you’re a Wild fan. The Wild executed a bigtime power play yesterday in an attempt to land both the highly-coveted New Jersey Devils captain and Nashville Predators defenseman.”
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This morning, [Josh] Rimer Tweeted, “I strongly believe now especially after my interview last night with Parise, that him and Suter are a package Deal! I’m also feeling pretty strongly that they’ll both be pulling on Minnesota Wild Jersey’s this season.”

Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy, told MLive.com in an email late Tuesday night that “I don’t know for sure” when Suter will make a decision. “Let’s see what tomorrow brings.”

Update: From the Free Press’s Helene St. James:

Just heard from Wade Arnott, agent for Zach Parise: “Likely a decision today.”
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Wade Arnott, agent for Zach Parise, tells FP: “Likely a decision today.”
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If #RedWings don’t land defenseman Ryan Suter, they’ll turn attention to Matt Carle, Carlo Colaiacovo to bolster defense.

The Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan...

Maybe Suter decision this afternoon? His agent tells Sportsnet it’s “likely”...hmmmmm
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Lot of chatter Parise/Suter leaning to Minnesota…Now that would be a (minor) upset
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@SHEEHYHOCKEY: Client Ryan Suter plans on making a decision today.”

Via RedWingsFeed, more from Kulfan:

Could it be a happy Fourth of July for the Red Wings?It probably will be for at least one NHL team, as it appears free agent defenseman Ryan Suter will make a decision on where to play next season — and beyond.

Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy, told the Sportsnet television network in Canada Wednesday morning that a decision “likely” will be announced Wednesday afternoon. Paul Ostby, and agent at the firm Sheehy Hockey, wrote on Twitter: “Client Ryan Suter plans on making a decision today.”

Sheehy did not respond to phone calls and e-mails from The Detroit News early Wednesday morning.

Team officials from the Red Wings and Minnesota Wild both met with Suter, an unrestricted free agent who played with the Nashville Predators last season, on his farm Tuesday in Madison, Wis.

The Predators, Pittsburgh Penguins and Philadelphia Flyers all have aggressively shown interest in Suter. The Flyers reportedly have offered Suter a contract worth over $100 million spread out over 12 years, but did not meet face-to-face with him over the past couple days.

The Wings have reportedly offered Suter a 13-year contract worth $90 million, which would make for a salary cap hit of roughly $6.9 million.

As for the other prized free agent, forward Zach Parise, reports Wednesday morning out of Minneapolis indicate he and Suter both could be headed to the Minnesota Wild. The Wild have missed the playoffs the last four seasons and don’t have the prestige or history of the Red Wings, or the other teams that have been chasing Parise and Suter. But Parise is from Minneapolis, and Suter’s home isn’t far away in Madison.

Parise reportedly met with Wild officials Tuesday night, after Suter had met with them, as well as a Wings delegation that included owner Mike Ilitch, general manager Ken Holland and advisor to hockey operations Chris Chelios.

And from Chuck Pleiness:

Ryan Suter will make his decision today, according to NHL agent Paul Ostby via Twitter.Ostby Tweeted, “Client Ryan Suter plans on making a decision today.” Neil Sheehy is Suter’s agent.

The Wings paid a face-to-face visit with Suter, 27, on Tuesday, as did the Minnesota Wild. Detroit made a 13 year, $90 million offer to Suter.

There are reports that say Suter and Zach Parise are both leaning towards signing with the Wild. The Wings have also tendered an offer to Parise, 27.

Michael Russo, the Wild beat writer for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, reported that the Wild are believed to be offering contracts worth $100 million and more to Parise and more than $80 million to Suter.

Suter leaving for the Wild will be a big blow to the Wings, who are looking to reload on the blue line after Nicklas Lidstrom retired and Brad Stuart was traded to San Jose.

The free agent market was slim to begin with on defense and it could open up the Wings to possibly trading for a top defenseman.

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Gag.

Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 07/04/12 at 01:16 PM ET

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Why is it all of a sudden that Russo and Brian Lawton are considered gospel ?

They are still rumored everywhere else, and until these 2 sign somewhere, I’m just going to take it as another “jump the gun” attempt to break news.

Posted by @TheJimPl9 from Nashville on 07/04/12 at 01:17 PM ET

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Un-Fuchin-Real

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 07/04/12 at 01:20 PM ET

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Why Wild? Have they gone mental? Not winning anything for the rest of my career? Two please!

Posted by Lucce- from Zweden on 07/04/12 at 01:21 PM ET

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Leilpold syas his team isn’t making money because of player’s salaries, signs these two with essentially $200 million…then will go vote for a lockout to roll the player’s share back.

Fuch him and fuch that Russo guy.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 07/04/12 at 01:22 PM ET

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As i read the tweets, Russo got it from Lawton.  It seems to me that Lawton is in the publicity business.  Even when he’s wrong, it’s still free publicity.

FWIW, it they do go to the Wild, IMO, its because a) they want to be in charge & b) it’s nice not to be expected to win the cup every year.

If either of those is even close to accurate, the Wings wouldn’t have been happy with them anyway.

Posted by vfsvfl on 07/04/12 at 01:24 PM ET

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Minn. Wild is a poorly ran organization.  And will be for years to come.
To them, it’s all about money…...not “team”.

Posted by T Bird from Micigan/Indiana on 07/04/12 at 01:26 PM ET

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Two great Americans, ruining my Fourth of July :(

Usually only Obama and Biden could do that

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 07/04/12 at 01:26 PM ET

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You couldn’t have said it better…

If either of those is even close to accurate, the Wings wouldn’t have been happy with them anyway.

Posted by T Bird from Micigan/Indiana on 07/04/12 at 01:28 PM ET

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@Red Winger Amen to that last post ! we agree on something

Posted by Evilpens on 07/04/12 at 01:28 PM ET

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Its all still speculation, but i’ve been feeling that that this is why its taken so long.  They are not necessarily a package deal, but neither one would go to minnesota unless the other one was going.

Posted by jwad on 07/04/12 at 01:28 PM ET

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@Red Winger Amen to that last post ! we agree on something

Posted by Evilpens on 07/04/12 at 11:28 AM ET

Love ya, buddy smile

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 07/04/12 at 01:30 PM ET

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if they don’t come to Detroit, then the Wild is a good choice from our perspective because then they can’t hurt us. better they end up in Minnesota than Pittsburgh or Chicago.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 07/04/12 at 01:30 PM ET

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These two signing with Minnesota will likely prompt me to evacuate my bowels.

Posted by Shanker from Meeeeeechigan on 07/04/12 at 01:32 PM ET

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I agree with the sentiment that if they do go to Minny, at least they will be neutralized.

I mean, seriously, it’s the Wild. They make Edmonton look like Cup contenders next year.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 07/04/12 at 01:34 PM ET

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Two great Americans, ruining my Fourth of July :(

Usually only Obama and Biden could do that

It looks like Suter has been playing “Biden” to Parise’s “Obama.” And none of them can make a decision that doesn’t suck.

Now, having said that, watch Suter and Parise both choose the Wings. smile

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/04/12 at 01:38 PM ET

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Wait, this doesn’t make any sense. Minny has $15.7 in cap space, you’re telling me they’re going to actually use all of their cap space? Me no think so.

Posted by Keyser S. on 07/04/12 at 01:40 PM ET

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I guess they are more interested in taking it easy the rest of their careers if they sign with the Wild. No pressure to win a cup every year? Hahaha. Good riddance if they don’t come to Detroit then. What the hell is a “wild” anyway. If that’s their decision, it’s a bad one. At least this circus will finally be over one way or the other.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 07/04/12 at 01:41 PM ET

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If they both sign in Minny, Parise just became my enemy number one.  I can almost guarantee that with no Parise this summer, Suter would be a Red Wing.  The hold up has been Parise and his desire to get both signed somewhere.  From the very beginning Suter has been linked to the Wings, even Preds fans were resigned to that fact.  This move to the Wild is all Parise.

Posted by Booyah! from chicago on 07/04/12 at 01:42 PM ET

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Notice the “sky is falling” commenters hate Obama…boohoo gents

Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 07/04/12 at 01:42 PM ET

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If wings Don’t get suter. We’ll still be ok and love to have shea weber next season. The wings will win with or without them.

Posted by tom from s carolina on 07/04/12 at 01:44 PM ET

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I agree with the sentiment that if they do go to Minny, at least they will be neutralized.

But that also means the Wings will face them six times a year once realingment goes into effect. The new “Central” will be: Detroit, Columbus, Nashville, St. Louis, Chicago, Minnesota, Dallas and Winnipeg.

There’s still a lot of “not so good” involved in them both going to the Wild.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/04/12 at 01:44 PM ET

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Red Winger and Evilpens - I’ll see you at the meetings.

Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 07/04/12 at 01:45 PM ET

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I hope we can keep the politics out of this. It’s bad enough to contemplate both going to Minnesota, and no, I don’t belong to either party. Family and friends may be the storyline if they go to Minnesota. The more I think about it, the more confusing it gets.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:50 PM ET

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When players leave two of the better run organizations, pass up a chance at two other well run organizations to sign with the Minnesota Wild, it says something about them. I don’t want to hear it isn’t about the money. The Wild have been on of the most dysfunctional organizations in the leaguoe the last two years.

Posted by Jkrdevil on 07/04/12 at 01:51 PM ET

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The wings ken Holland and MR Illitch. Will put a winner on the ice. The Red Wings are the Best organization in Hockey ! If they don’t get parise or suter. We’ll still win the west. I can’t wait until the season starts. Go Wings !!

Posted by tom from s carolina on 07/04/12 at 01:52 PM ET

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Notice the “sky is falling” commenters hate Obama…boohoo gents

Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 07/04/12 at 11:42 AM ET

LOL  wink

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan hometown of Abdelkader on 07/04/12 at 01:52 PM ET

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Anyplace but Pittsburgh.

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 07/04/12 at 01:52 PM ET

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It does not add up.  Not Minnesota, if a Stanley Cup is their priority.

The Fat Lady needs to sing before I am believing it.

Posted by Cal on 07/04/12 at 01:53 PM ET

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The reports from Minny remind me of the begining of the season when everyone was raving about how well they are doing and their cup chances blah blah. Team didn’t even make the playoffs and totally tanked 1/3rd into the season. Minny just doesn’t seem like the place to go.

Posted by Malik_is_alive from Hell on 07/04/12 at 01:53 PM ET

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So hey, Matt Carle, what’s up?

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 01:53 PM ET

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Anyplace but Pittsburgh.

A-friggin’-men.

Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 07/04/12 at 01:54 PM ET

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Actually, does Schultz decision for Edmonton make more sense or if the dynamic duo goes to the Wild? Just a thought (maybe you don’t think either makes sense). For example, the Oilers having the last 3 #1 picks overall is a good thing or bad thing, depending on how you look at it.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:54 PM ET

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The wings ken Holland and MR Illitch. Will put a winner on the ice. The Red Wings are the Best organization in Hockey ! If they don’t get parise or suter. We’ll still win the west. I can’t wait until the season starts. Go Wings !!

Posted by tom from s carolina on 07/04/12 at 11:52 AM ET

Yesterday I was hoping we’d get them too but know if it doesn’t happen there is a reason for it and we’re probably better off ... all this drama they have created isn’t worth it.  Holland and Mr I will come up with what is needed

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan hometown of Abdelkader on 07/04/12 at 01:56 PM ET

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Plan B is going after Matt Carle or Carlo Coocococchanel?  A Blues cast off?

Posted by Booyah! from chicago on 07/04/12 at 01:56 PM ET

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Actually, does Schultz decision for Edmonton make more sense or if the dynamic duo goes to the Wild?

Schultz to Edmonton makes a ton of sense.  He’ll step right into at least a top four role and play on the PP with a bunch of young guns.

Plus, he gets two years to hone his skills and prove himself as an NHL player, then he can cash in on his next contract if he wants.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 01:57 PM ET

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So hey, Matt Carle, what’s up?

Hey Semin how you doin?

Posted by Adam from Detroit on 07/04/12 at 01:57 PM ET

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Let’s see what happens on paper.

And the Wings’ front office made plans B, C, D and etc. because they knew it was very probable that one or neither player would sign in Detroit. This is not a “referendum for a dream”—if these players choose the same money DET has offered but go to Minny, that’s a lifestyle choice, and that does not signal the end of the “program” selling itself.

What the Wings do to adjust will tell the tale, and more importantly, what happens on the ice is the biggest deciding factor.

We have to wait and see.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 01:58 PM ET

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About Carlo Colaiacovo: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/round-two/are-colaiacovo-s-days-as-a-blue-numbered/article_5128448a-c532-11e1-a9a9-0019bb30f31a.html

QUESTION: Carlo Colaiacovo is now an unrestricted free agent. Do you think there is any chance Colaiacovo will return to the Blues next season? Would he rank among the team’s top six defensemen at this point?

JEREMY RUTHERFORD

At this point, I would say the chances of Colaiacovo returning are 50-50. Doug Armstrong hasn’t closed the door, but the Blues are exhausting other options in landing a defenseman, including free agency and trade partners. Colaiacovo can be a decent defenseman in the league and he showed that he has chemistry with Alex Pietrangelo. But whether it was injury-related or not, Colaiacovo struggled down the stretch, and with his contract up, the Blues are looking for an upgrade. If they can’t find one, he could be back.

DAN O’NEILL

It is, at best, unlikely Colaiacovo would be back, even at a reasonable salary figure. As it stands right now, the Blues have three lefthanded defensemen that figure to make the roster in Kris Russell, Barret Jackman and Ian Cole. They also have depth players in Jeff Woywitka and Taylor Chorney.

The signing of Jackman pretty much insured Colaiacovo will be a casualty. At this point, the club should be trying to upgrade on defense, not maintain. If they are going to carry seven, they should be looking for someone who can move into a top pairing with Alex Pietrangelo. I don’t think they consider Colaiacovo, ideally, to be that player.

Certainly, he is an NHL-caliber defensman, but he also is an often-injured NHL defenseman, which essentially requires you to have eight defensemen available at any given time. The bottom line is the Blues are looking to get better, or at least they should be, and it doesn’t look like Colaiacovo is in the plans.

JEFF GORDON

Yes, Carlo Colaiacovo would be one of the team’s top six defensemen. GM Doug Armstrong set out to find an upgrade over Carlo this summer, but the free agency market quickly became pricey. Former Blues defenseman Dennis Wideman was just one of the players to get overpaid. With each signing, Colaiacovo looked a bit more attractive. But Armstrong is eager to make an upgrade, so he may exhaust free agent AND trade possibilities before reconsidering Colaiacovo.

MIKE CLAIBORNE (Host of “The Sports Hub” on KMOX)

Colaiacovo is a good, sound serviceable player when healthy. At this point, if the Blues are really ready to get to the next level, especially when it comes to the postseason, then they will have to upgrade the areas of serviceable players. Coliacovo made a good contribution to the Blues. It can hopefully enhance his worth on the open market to other teams.

ANDY STRICKLAND (TrueHockey.com, KFNS)

I reported a few weeks ago that fans shouldn’t be surprised if the Blues turn back to Carlo Colaiacovo after examining the market. I don’t think it’s a priority for the organization but in the event they fail to get a player they covet it wouldn’t surprise me at all. The Blues know Colaiacovo and some inside the organization tell me he’s better than 75 percent of the defenseman available. The Blues are also looking at the trade market in an effort to grab a partner for Alex Pietrangelo. Based off of the current roster, most inside the organization would tell you he would certainly crack their top six. He played 20 minutes a game last season with basically the same group. There are some players available who the Blues like, but if they strike out Colaiacovo remains an option.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:58 PM ET

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For eryone saying “at least it’s not Pittsburgh” they didn’t have the cap space for both, it was Parise or nothing.  Suter was Detroit bound, this whole Minny play for both is new and is something that would not have happened had Parise not pushed it.

Posted by Booyah! from chicago on 07/04/12 at 01:58 PM ET

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