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Injured Detroit Players Update Their Status

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

“I’m good to go, so if (the coach) puts me back in there, I’ll be fine,” DeKeyser said.

Helm felt good after skating Tuesday.

“I’ll skate (Wednesday), I’ll push it a little harder, take the pregame skate (Thursday) and take it from there,” Helm said.

He was disappointed to miss the Winter Classic.

“I was planning on (playing) but after the practice (the day before) I kind of felt something,” Helm said. “It didn’t feel bad, it was just a little something, so I got off the ice quick. I thought I was going to be fine and the next morning I woke up it wasn’t good enough to play.

“I wanted to make sure I was smart about it. It was a tough one to take (missing the outdoor game). It was probably one of the harder (decisions), but it was probably a smart one.”

Pavel Datsyuk (lower-body injury) also practiced Tuesday, but his status is more questionable, he said.

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appreciate the many updates-enjoyed the winter classic and had a long ride home afterwards to Indianapolis. I am extremely down about the remainder of the year. The schedule is brutal and the Wings cannot win at home-am afraid the chances for a playoff position are bleak. in reality the course for this season and those to follow was set by Mr Holland et all awhile ago and there is going to be no relief. Allowing Stuart to leave with no compensation, missing out on Suter, and allowing Val P to go South have cast a damaging shadow on what was a a barely salvageable team. The injuries are a bit of a mystery-as is the constant nonsense from Babcock’s and Holland’s mouths. This is a mid-level team now with very little margin for error. I really do not see a way out of years of mediocrity. The wings have too much nonproductive age, no room to experiment with youngsters, and a hierarchy that loves veterans. And finally no one to take over a game-all great teams have someone like that-Nick is gone and Stevie isn’t coming back.

Posted by dan hurley on 01/08/14 at 10:04 AM ET

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I have to “semi disagree” with you on a couple of things. If the Wings stay healthy, I can assure you we will start winning at home and this team does better the 2nd half they did in the first half. Also, Many teams have players that are crazy good like the blackhawks for gettings for 1st picks way high up in the draft. Because a long time ago Chicago sucked balls and they got a ton of first round picks in Kane and Towevs. Now, someone on are team who I think can “take over” is probably Zetterberg. They guy just knows where to go and plays like an all star every game. You should see our wins and losses with him on our team and with him injured… However I DO AGREE that letting stuart go for nothing and missing out on suter were huge losses. That’s why we’re stuck with Quinceys and lashoffs…

Posted by Pasha1277 on 01/08/14 at 10:46 AM ET

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basically, Holland and babcock definitely dropped the ball and have been going in a direction where, maybe in the next year or two we need a change.

Posted by Pasha1277 on 01/08/14 at 10:48 AM ET

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Allowing Stuart to leave with no compensation, missing out on Suter, and allowing Val P to go South have cast a damaging shadow on what was a a barely salvageable team

A. They did get some sort of draft pick for Stuart, and him staying did help them make the playoffs. Immaterial really- they wouldn’t have gotten anything worth having him leave before the season was over.

B. They didn’t miss out on Suter. They went big and Parise convinced Suter to go to the Wild. If Parise wasn’t there, rumors had it Suter would’ve went to Detroit. Oh well.

C. Really? Filppula wanted out. The contract was essentially the same as what Detroit offered him, but see…we know what Valterri would provide…and with the way this season has played out, he would’ve been even more maligned in the Winged Wheel.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 01/08/14 at 11:24 AM ET

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Allowing Stuart to leave with no compensation, missing out on Suter, and allowing Val P to go South have cast a damaging shadow on what was a a barely salvageable team.

As stated above, Stuart left for familial reasons that tied everyone’s hands in the matter. The Franchise went more or less all-in on Suter but missed out when he chose to play closer to home – the same reason the Wings ended up with DeKeyser. And Valterri was offered the same contract by the Wings that he signed for in Florida, so ...

The injuries are a bit of a mystery-as is the constant nonsense from Babcock’s and Holland’s mouths. This is a mid-level team now with very little margin for error. I really do not see a way out of years of mediocrity.

Players get injured. Some more than others. As bad as it seems last I checked there were 9 teams in the NHL this year that have lost more players for games to injuries than the Wings. If anything that’s an improvement over past years.

And sorry you consider Babcock & Holland to be speaking a bunch of nonsense. Not much can be done about that if they’re not a-speakin’ your a-language.

The wings have too much nonproductive age, no room to experiment with youngsters, and a hierarchy that loves veterans.

The Wings are loaded with youngsters right now compared to where they’ve been in the past 25 years. While a lot of players have received their cup of pies earlier than The Franchise would have preferred due to injuries, they’re still getting their shots and doing well which bodes well for the now and for the future. Without looking it up, this seems to be the youngest team the Wings have iced in decades and they’re doing pretty well all things considered.

And finally no one to take over a game-all great teams have someone like that-Nick is gone and Stevie isn’t coming back.

As much as Yzerman & Lidstrom are some of my all-time favorites, so too are Pavel & Hank. It makes me sad to think that you’ve somehow missed their brilliance over the last ten or so seasons. Maybe you need to take a deep breath and look at all the positives there are and enjoy those. It makes it a lot more fun.

Posted by SK77 on 01/08/14 at 11:57 AM ET

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Since on the Stuart topic, I have been surpised a bit with a couple of healthy scatches this season by the Sharks.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 01/08/14 at 12:00 PM ET

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The wings have too much nonproductive age, no room to experiment with youngsters, and a hierarchy that loves veterans.

I won’t argue that they love vets, and I was as annoyed as anyone that they made choices that led to Nyquist starting the season in Grand Rapids, but to look at the fact that they have six regulars who are 24 or under (Smith, DeKeyser, Lashoff, Andersson, Tatar and Nyquist who is regularly playing in a top-six role) and seven other rookies who have dressed in Red Wings sweaters this year it’s kind of hard to argue that there’s been no experimentation with youngsters.

Posted by Garth on 01/08/14 at 12:10 PM ET

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The Wings are getting a 7th rounder in the next draft as a result of trading away the rights to a guy with one foot out the door.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/08/14 at 12:19 PM ET

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The Wings are getting a 7th rounder in the next draft as a result of trading away the rights to a guy with one foot out the door.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/08/14 at 12:19 PM ET

Heh.  Maybe the Wings’ll trade down to the last pick of the seventh round; the Mr. Irrelevant pick has been fairly good for the Wings.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 01/08/14 at 01:16 PM ET

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Anyone noticing how great a year both Hudler and Val are having?
Same players just don’t like playing under Babs.
This team will not built physically nor talent wise to go deep in the playoffs.
In pre cap days Ilitch could just buy up on highly skilled players but now you need a mix of toughness and skill something Holland and Babs don’t seem to understand.
Badly missing a hitter like Stuart and superpest like Homer, badly.

 

Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 01/08/14 at 02:59 PM ET

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Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 01/08/14 at 02:59 PM ET

Val is playing first line minutes thanks to Stamkos’ injury and averaging about two more minutes on the ice per game. Huds is getting about the same amount of ice time more as well. According to hihd logic that should net them more points. I’m happy they have found a good place to play for their skills.

Maybe the Wings’ll trade down to the last pick of the seventh round; the Mr. Irrelevant pick has been fairly good for the Wings.

And maybe San Jose will win the president’s trophy and spoil that additional draft pick.

ook at the fact that they have six regulars who are 24 or under…and seven other rookies who have dressed in Red Wings sweaters this year it’s kind of hard to argue that there’s been no experimentation with youngsters.

Can you imagine if the Wing’s had bad luck and not lost anyone to injury?

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/14 at 03:51 PM ET

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And maybe San Jose will win the president’s trophy and spoil that additional draft pick.

Don’t touch my dream with your dirty hands.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 01/08/14 at 04:29 PM ET

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. And finally no one to take over a game-all great teams have someone like that-Nick is gone and Stevie isn’t coming back.

Posted by dan hurley on 01/08/14 at 10:04 AM ET

Like Datsyuk and Zetterberg have never taken games over.

Apparently you never watched the 2008 and 2009 playoffs, or watched Zetterberg at the end of last year.

Also…sorry to say but Lidstrom never took a game over. He doesn’t really play a position that allows for that but still.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 01/08/14 at 08:58 PM ET

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B. They didn’t miss out on Suter. They went big and Parise convinced Suter to go to the Wild. If Parise wasn’t there, rumors had it Suter would’ve went to Detroit. Oh well.

How does that qualify as not missing out on Suter?

Posted by Garth on 01/09/14 at 01:05 PM ET

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How does that qualify as not missing out on Suter?

One could argue that refusing to pay what it would have taken to overcome what happened with Suter (Or refusing to offer Zach Parise the deal he ended up with) counts as passing on him rather than missing out on him.

But that’s silly semantics.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/09/14 at 02:03 PM ET

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While drafting players is an inexact “science,” drafting low over an extended period of years means the best talent will be taken before the low drafting team gets to pick. There will always be exceptions, players who are late bloomers, that develop into something special.

The Wings dynastic run was fueled by high picks (Stevie), the rest of the NHL’s failure to recognize the talent outside of North America, and Mr. I’s deep pockets in a cap-free NHL. Now the Wings have been drafting low for 20+ years, every NHL team scouts outside of North America as much as the Wings and the salary cap ended Mr. I’s free-spending ways.

As one can see from the Wing’s injuries over the past couple of seasons, depth is a key part of success. However, depth can only be achieved through the draft. Depth can not be achieved through free agency because of the cap. The cap also minimizes the impact of trades because the salaries have to match.

The Wings have begun their descent into mediocrity. But they are stuck in Purgatory, neither bad enough to hit the draft lottery nor good enough to win the Cup. The sooner the Ilitch family realizes this and takes appropriate action, the sooner the Wings can rebuild into a contender for 8-10 years. Fighting to make the playoffs just delays the inevitable. It’s time to end the streak and rebuild. Babs is not the man for that job. He won’t play youngsters and develop youngsters as long as there is a veteran available. Holland either share Babs beliefs or has bowed to them (Cleary, Sammy, Weiss, Alfie)

I am not advocating tanking games. I am advocating winning the Stanley Cup. Winning the Cup takes access to top talent in the draft. The new normal in the Cap NHL is missing the playoffs for multiple years, drafting the best talent and keeping that core together for an 8-10 run while adding a piece or two through trade or free agency. Also, follow the Patriots model: trade top players that have a little left in the tank for draft picks. The days of players like Stevie and TPH playing their entire careers with a single team are over (if they ever existed; how many teams did Lindsay, Abel and howe play for?).

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 01/09/14 at 02:29 PM ET

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