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Faceoffs An Issue For The Detroit Red Wings

from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

The Stars won faceoffs, got control of the puck, and forced the Red Wings to chase it most of the game.

Zetterberg was 15-of-34, Frans Nielsen 5-of-16, and Dylan Larkin 8-of-16 in the circle.

Basically, officials want to curb the cheating, specifically to players squaring up behind the L-shaped marks surrounding the dot.

But it’s that second guy coming in after his teammate gets thrown out that is making teams cautious....

We have to do a better job in the faceoff circle,” Blashill said. “The one thing I’d say about that is we’re very worried about taking that penalty. I guess I have to look through the league and see if they’ve called any yet. In the preseason they did, but I want to make sure that it’s being called the same way for that second guy going in.

“I certainly want to make sure our guys are not taking a penalty. But if they’re allowing more cheating on that second guy throughout the league, we have to make sure they’re looking at that.”

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It’s a good sign that Larkin was at 50%.

Sure would be nice to have a true shutdown centre like Hanzal in the lineup. Instead we have Helm, Sheahan, Glendummy as our “defensive” centers.

Posted by fatsavage on 10/12/17 at 10:13 AM ET

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Haha. You enjoy your Sports Illustrated story. I’ll save the lengthy rebuttal to that. I’ll maybe just point out that this esteemed author couldn’t find one player, coach, or GM to quote in that article. Strange huh?

So I’m going to stay in a room with people like Scotty Bowman, Babcock, Zetterberg, and hundreds and hundreds of other Hall-of-Famers who all agree that faceoffs are important, a skill to learn and practice, etc…

But you can stay in your little room with that Sports Illustrated journalist and probably a few other people that have probably never played the game at a competitive level. Have fun over there Homers!

Posted by fatsavage on 10/12/17 at 11:45 AM ET

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just wow.

Posted by ilovehomers on 10/12/17 at 11:53 AM ET

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Face offs ,,,,Just another stat losers have, this team will be a mess for a few yrs. Nosek might have helped, right KH?

His departure offers the Wings no salary cap relief, deprives them of a prospect (a center) who has size and showed tenacity during an 11-game stretch in Detroit this past season.  Bottom line for the Wings: They lose a prospect, gain no tangible salary cap space (Nosek makes $612,500 in 2017-18)

It makes feel a bit better when other hockey people see our mess!

That Sheahan did not entice Vegas is something. He had an appallingly bad 2016-17 season, going 81 games before scoring twice and finishing with just 13 points and a minus-29 rating.  25 years old, and makes just $2.1 million next season.

Helm, 30, was a long shot, given his history of injury, his meager production (17 points in 50 games) and salary (signed through 2020-21 at a $3.85-million cap hit).

Luke Glendening, 28, also is signed through 2020-21, at a $1.8-million cap hit, and finished last season with 14 points and a minus-10 in 74 games.

Sorry to swamp you with stats you already know but being a big Nosek fan, KH really shit his pants with this pathetic move.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/12/17 at 11:54 AM ET

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I am a fan of Frans Nielsen but not a $6 M Frans.  Good in SOs and a $6M Center on the 3rd line.

That has to be one of the most overpaid 3rd line centers. His Faceoffs were nudging 50% before coming to the Wings.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/12/17 at 12:16 PM ET

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That has to be one of the most overpaid 3rd line centers.

One of the 3rd line centres who is playing on Nielson’s wing is at least as overpaid as Nielsen is. And the other one isn’t far behind.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 10/12/17 at 12:46 PM ET

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I am a fan of Frans Nielsen but not a $6 M Frans.  Good in SOs and a $6M Center on the 3rd line.

That has to be one of the most overpaid 3rd line centers. His Faceoffs were nudging 50% before coming to the Wings.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/12/17 at 01:16 PM ET

Nielsen only makes $5.25M. Kenny drives a hard bargain.

Also, Helm is the best 3C in all of hockey. He’s so good as 3C that he’s now used as a 3W. Oh well. His wife knew someone that changed Kenny’s diapers.

Posted by fatsavage on 10/12/17 at 01:06 PM ET

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Nielsen only makes $5.25M. Kenny drives a hard bargain.

My bad, I only looked at total salary, which is $6M (this yr and next)

KH’s usual contract goodies,,,,NM for 1st 2 years and Modified NTC/NM after

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/12/17 at 01:46 PM ET

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That has to be one of the most overpaid 3rd line centers

To be fair, he was brought in to be a second line center. 4 years at $5 mil would have been a reasonable contract for one of the best UFA centers available, so 6 years at $5.25 is close, but obviously years 4-5-6 of that contract will be really bad. More importantly we did not need Nielsen,
Z-Larkin-Helm-Glendening (Sheahan) were your centers for at least the next 4-5 years.

Posted by VPalmer on 10/12/17 at 02:11 PM ET

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More importantly we did not need Nielsen,
Z-Larkin-Helm-Glendening (Sheahan) were your centers for at least the next 4-5 years.

Posted by VPalmer on 10/12/17 at 03:11 PM ET

Bingo. This is why we never should have traded Datsyuk. There were enough centers on the roster (you could also add Nosek). Whether or not we had Nielsen or not would not have kept the streak alive. That was proven last year. Now you have 5 more years with a player we don’t even want. Would rather have extra cap space to pay AA, and maybe even use that cap space as a dumping ground for bad contracts (ie absorbing Bickell to add TT).

But Kenny thinks we’re 2% away from being back in the mix. So that makes Nielsen and Daley big priorities.

Posted by fatsavage on 10/12/17 at 03:01 PM ET

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