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Dreger: NHL will tweak the net to try to avoid O’Halloran situations

Per TSN’s Darren Dreger, the NHL’s at least going to make some tweaks so that notorious goal-deciding referee Dan O’Halloran and the rest of the NHL’s refs have better, ahem, visual data when making calls as to whether a puck actually crosses the line:

The NHL requires conclusive evidence to overrule the call on the ice and since the video support wasn’t there to do that, the call by O’Halloran on the ice was the determining factor. Camera angles, poor video quality and obstructed views have always plagued video review.

There have multiple proposals considered to improve this process, but the league seems focused on the nets and changes that can be introduced to increase visibility.

In addition to testing a thinner mesh on the top of the nets, the National Hockey League will also be changing the ribbon that essentially protects skates from hitting the base of the net. The existing ribbon that wraps around the base is white, but will be replaced this summer at the research and development camp by a clear band which will extend three feet back of the goal line from each post.

Reconfiguring the nets isn’t going to eliminate goal line controversies in the NHL, but the league hopes these subtle tweaks will help limit them.

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Ajax19's avatar

Reconfiguring the nets isn’t going to eliminate the “distinct kicking motion”  controversies in the NHL either.

Posted by Ajax19 on 04/07/11 at 03:35 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

Reconfiguring the nets isn’t going to eliminate the “distinct kicking motion”  controversies in the NHL either.

Posted by Ajax19 on 04/07/11 at 01:35 PM ET

Or the clear bias in favor of certain teams - see Hossa’s kick in last night that was ruled a goal…

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 04/07/11 at 03:39 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

I actually agree with having the video review take place off site because it takes the heat off the referee.  But why not install cameras up and underneath the cross bar that looks down at the goal line and allow the camera to be the definitive authority?  Once again the NHL refuses to keep it simple.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 04/07/11 at 03:49 PM ET

Nathan's avatar

The argument is that the rule about kick-ins says it can’t go directly in, or off a player or official and in. It doesn’t say a kick off the post is illegal.

I know it’s absurd, but that’s what it says. So that part of the book needs to be cleaned up, because as someone else pointed out in another thread (I think Paul from Miami), the supposed purpose of the kicking rule is to eliminate the injury risks, particularly for goalies. If that’s the case, they really should change it so that the kicking motion means that technically speaking, the play is immediately dead when the kicking motion happened.

I’m in favor of getting rid of the kicking rule all together. I think the safety aspect is overblown, and the NHL obviously does too considering the structure of the current rule. But this is another discussion entirely.

The bigger point is that the ref clearly called that the puck went over the line where there was no humanly possible way that he could’ve actually observed the puck completely over the line.

I think the R&D stuff is great, but some of these changes seem so obvious I don’t see why the league approaches them with so much caution.

I understand the need to approach the thinner mesh with a pessimistic eye because there’s a safety issue there. But the idea they tried last off-season with the yellow line the width of a puck behind the goal line? Why the hell not throw that in there?

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 04/07/11 at 03:57 PM ET

Chris from NOHS's avatar

Or even just at the back of the net…

Posted by Chris from NOHS from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 04/07/11 at 03:57 PM ET

Nathan's avatar

Posted by bezukov from Wings Fan in exile: Columbus, OH on 04/07/11 at 01:49 PM ET

I’ve thought about that too, but I think it would be more difficult than it seems at first blush. If it’s a camera like the one mounted in the back of the goal or the standard top-down view, it would be large enough that it could potentially get in the way of a puck coming into the net, or even get in the way of the goalie. And if it’s fiber optics or something small enough to almost be built into the crossbar, what’s the resolution like?

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 04/07/11 at 03:59 PM ET

Down River Dan's avatar

Instead of finer mesh on the net, how about putting a miniature camera inside of the crossbar and pointing straight down. The camera would be completely inside of the metal tubing with a small pinhole for the lens. Jesus! For less than $300 a small wireless transmitter/video camera could sole the problem. No No ....the league feels it easier to keep the goal cam mounted in the rafters of the arena staring down from 100 feet.The league is run by idiots.

Posted by Down River Dan on 04/07/11 at 04:39 PM ET

Leo_Racicot's avatar

Wow, wasn’t this a quick change that was agreed upon?  It’s as if they were waiting for last night to happen before introducing the change.

Visionaries, that’s NHL leadership in the post lockout era.

Posted by Leo_Racicot on 04/07/11 at 04:41 PM ET

Nathan's avatar

Wow, wasn’t this a quick change that was agreed upon?  It’s as if they were waiting for last night to happen before introducing the change.

Visionaries, that’s NHL leadership in the post lockout era.

Posted by Leo_Racicot on 04/07/11 at 02:41 PM ET

Exactly… they are too cautions and slow when it comes to obvious changes that would enhance the game at best, and literally change nothing at worst.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 04/07/11 at 05:42 PM ET

SpaceCityHockey's avatar

I would say small fish eye cameras inside base of each post, from above you still have the goalie blocking the view with his glove as happened in this case.

Posted by SpaceCityHockey from Houston, TX on 04/07/11 at 05:52 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

I would say small fish eye cameras inside base of each post, from above you still have the goalie blocking the view with his glove as happened in this case.

Fish eye cameras on the side of the posts (inside the tubing) and under the crossbar would all but solve the problem.  If the goalie makes it so you can’t see the puck, no goal.  Thats pretty simple to me. 

The fact of the matter is the NHL makes enough money that a tech solution could be found, its stupid that were are still waiting on one.

BTW NHL, I wan’t review process for goalie interference!  It’s common sense to me that a call that can shift the momentum of the game like that ought to be eligible for a second look.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 04/07/11 at 06:10 PM ET

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