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Don’t expect Red Wings GM Ken Holland to set the world on fire with a dozen moves this off-season

While you, I and the media ponder what the Red Wings' management, pro and amateur scouts, coaches and player leadership will decide to do in terms of the team's roster going forward based upon its salary cap situation, a pair of possible cap-compliance buy-outs, trades, injuries and how the team will accommodate the signings of its prospects and promotions of prospects from Grand Rapids...

The management's decisions to stand pat over the past 11-or-so months has shown that the team tends to believe in the concept that prospect development plus a free agent signing or two = the way to go while "rebuilding on the fly," and Ken Holland basically confirmed that strategy while speaking to the Free Press's Jeff Seidel, who suggests that the Wings' playoff run has made him a "believer" in the Wings' organizational philosophy:

[W]e learned that the Wings have a ton of young talent. And now that young talent has something that is even better – playoff experience.

"I think the most important thing is they are pros, not potential,” Holland said.

Next year will be fascinating. The Wings will get a full season of Danny DeKeyser. And they should get several injured players back.

“Next year, we hope to have Darren Helm back,” Holland said. “We hope to have a healthy Todd Bertuzzi. We hope to have a healthy Mikael Samuelsson. You can look forward to September 2013, and think we are going to have a real good competition” at training camp.

This is a new look for the Wings. This team is not as dominant as in the past, but it is homegrown, and it’s the culmination of a plan that started back in 2005.

“In ’05, we made a decision to be way more conservative,” Holland said.

To hoard draft picks.

“Now, we traded a second-round pick in ’08 for Brad Stuart, and I’d do that all day long,” Holland said. “But for the most part, we have tried to spend most or all of our money in the summer with the thought that we didn’t want to get to the trade deadline and trade a high draft pick and a prospect. Now you are starting to see the fruits of that philosophy.”

Given that MLive's Ansar Khan reports that Samuelsson may need surgery for his torn pectoral muscle, who knows if he'll ever be healthy...But I guess that signing, the team's decided to live with.

For now.

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We hope to have a healthy Todd Bertuzzi. We hope to have a healthy Mikael Samuelsson.

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantastic!

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 03:56 PM ET

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I’m more depressed after reading this than I was last night.

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 03:58 PM ET

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We hope to have a healthy Mikael Samuelsson. You can look forward to September 2013, and think we are going to have a real good competition” at training camp.

So even after watching the kids shine, we’d still rather have a useless Sammy over a guy like Tatar.  Lemme guess, we’re going to re-sign everybody and send Andersson and Nyquist back to GR next season.

Is it me, or does Kenny resent when Babs says after the season is over that they need changes (last few seasons he said it) and so he does nothing?

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 05/30/13 at 04:14 PM ET

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So even after watching the kids shine, we’d still rather have a useless Sammy over a guy like Tatar.

I don’t think Tatar is the answer, but if Holland is still looking at Samuelsson as a piece to the puzzle after what Babcock has done with the “youth movement” then there’s really a serious disconnect between GM and coach.

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 04:17 PM ET

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I always enjoy reading posts where people think that Holland is going to make some gutsy moves, he is not.  This is the team that he’s going to go into the Eastern Conference with, this is the team for next year (minus maybe Fil and Cleary).  If he wants to stay the course that’s fine but it’s an insult to expect that bertuzzi and Samuelsson will make any difference.  So all this talk about buyouts and trades and big UFA acquisitions can stop, like some of us thought, he will kick some tires this summer, work his IPhone or Blackberry and look busy.  So go and enjoy your summer, no need to get worked up about July 5th, nothing is going to happen.

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 04:17 PM ET

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I always enjoy reading posts where people think that Holland is going to make some gutsy moves, he is not.

Who’s talking about gutsy moves?

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 04:19 PM ET

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I always enjoy reading posts where people think that Holland is going to make some gutsy moves, he is not.
Who’s talking about gutsy moves?
Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 04:19 PM ET

Yeah, forget gutsy, just get 14-63-24 resigned. Damien’s a UFA and the other two are RFA’s.

Gutsy would be using a buyout on Sammy or Mule.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 05/30/13 at 04:23 PM ET

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If you read multiple websites, fans actually thought that Holland was going to do some buy outs and trade some prospects given the surplus of prospects this team now has.  There was even some who talked about Holland stating a desire to add bigger forwards now that they’re going to the Eastern Conference, it is all a pipedream.  As long as he can skate by and sneak into the playoffs, collect a fat paycheck for looking busy why should he make any moves?

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 04:24 PM ET

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Yeah, forget gutsy, just get 14-63-24 resigned. Damien’s a UFA and the other two are RFA’s.

Gutsy would be using a buyout on Sammy or Mule.

Gutsy would be not only buying them out but also adding an Iginla and Clarkson to this team.  I still say this team needs to get a bit bigger and meaner if they want to make any kind of noise in the Eastern Conference, especially the playoffs.  The one thing that always gave this team fits was bigger forwards, and bigger forwards with speed?  This team will see that every night.

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 04:26 PM ET

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Gutsy would be using a buyout on Sammy or Mule.

Hell, even those aren’t gutsy.  $5M sitting on the bench when it counts, buying them out is a no-brainer.

Gutsy would be trading picks for a first-pairing defenseman or Bobby Ryan.  ‘Gutsy’ isn’t in Ken Holland’s vocabulary.

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 04:27 PM ET

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Hell, even those aren’t gutsy.  $5M sitting on the bench when it counts, buying them out is a no-brainer.

Gutsy would be trading picks for a first-pairing defenseman or Bobby Ryan.  ‘Gutsy’ isn’t in Ken Holland’s vocabulary.

But when you raise that concern, certain people will tell you you are not an actual fan.  because, you know, being an actual fan means swearing allegiance to the lack of roster moves from ken Holland.  I knew that even if this team crapped out he would loathe making any changes but now that they advanced this far he has even more reason to take a vacation to Kelowna on the 5th of July

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 04:33 PM ET

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Gutsy would be using a buyout on Sammy or Mule.
Hell, even those aren’t gutsy.  $5M sitting on the bench when it counts, buying them out is a no-brainer.
Gutsy would be trading picks for a first-pairing defenseman or Bobby Ryan.  ‘Gutsy’ isn’t in Ken Holland’s vocabulary.
Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 04:27 PM ET

I meant gutsy for risk-averse Ken Holland. For anyone else, you’re right, they’re no brainers.

Though I would prefer that Holland dangle Mule out there as trade bait. For whatever reason, it’s just not working for him in Detroit anymore. (4-2-6, and -7 in 14 playoff games ain’t cutting it) A change of scenery might do him good and if the Wings can get something in return for him, all the better.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 05/30/13 at 04:40 PM ET

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Mule’s contract is an albatross, the guy floats at 33yrs old (or whatever he is) can you imagine when the cap hit is still 3.95mm/yr and he’s playing at 36 or 37 yrs old?

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 04:44 PM ET

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Franzen will never get bought out or traded unless he goes on a racist tirade or something.

Posted by Heaton on 05/30/13 at 04:45 PM ET

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Franzen will never get bought out or traded unless he goes on a racist tirade or something

so we need him to get all “Bobby Hull” up in here grin

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 04:49 PM ET

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So even after watching the kids shine, we’d still rather have a useless Sammy over a guy like Tatar.

Why is that the choice?  Why isn’t Sammy vs Eaves or Emmerton or Miller or Tootoo?

Gutsy would be not only buying them out but also adding an Iginla and Clarkson to this team

You and I spell ‘stupid’ differently.

But when you raise that concern, certain people will tell you you are not an actual fan.

I don’t think people who view the team as you do aren’t fans.  I just don’t think they are fans who look at hockey with much perspective either across the breadth of the league in the present nor in the history of the league extending back.

For anyone else, you’re right, they’re no brainers.

In what universe do you dudes inhabit, where ‘picks’ get you a first pairing defenseman or Bobby Ryan?

Yeah, sure, if a few ‘picks’ could land a guy like that the trade would be made already.  The problem is people who think that ‘picks’ get trades like that done are phenomenally clueless.

The trade that gets you Bobby Ryan is going to be significantly more costly than the trade that got the Rangers Rick Nash because Ryan is a) better and b) has a better contract.  That trade was Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixson, AND a #1.  In Red Wings-ese, that’s means in order to get one of those guys you have to trade MORE than Franzen, Ericsson, Smith and a #1.

It’s not ‘picks’.  It’s a big ol’ chunk right out of the middle of the roster.  PLUS ‘picks’.

For a #1 defenseman you’re talking about MORE than what got moved in the Bouwmeester trade, because that guy isn’t even a #1.  He’s like a #3.  With a terrible contract.  That trade was a #1 and two prospects.  In order to get a real #1 along that scale you’re talking about… pretty much what it would take to land a Bobby Ryan.  2-3 roster players, 1 great prospect, and 1 #1.

It’s not ‘picks’.  It’s a metric buttload and THEN some picks.

And if that trade doesn’t work out (like, for example, the Nash and Bouwmeester trades didn’t work out)?  Boom.  The team goes boom.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 05/30/13 at 05:08 PM ET

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I hope some of this talk is just that… talk.

I am not sure what a health Bertuzzi or Samuelsson will really bring to the table at this stage of their careers.  They really aren’t top 6 forwards anymore and I think the Wings showed this year that they have plenty bottom 6 types ready to go.  Being “over ripe” is one thing, but wasting players away is another.  As much as I like Bert, he really has no value on a 4th line.

I think Babcock made it pretty clear, this team needs to add at least one, ideally two, top six forwards next year.  With Cleary (possible) and Filppula (likely) gone, they have vacancies.  The only forward I could see moving up next year could by Nyquist.  It’s easy to write “sign Iginla and Clarkson”, but another thing entirely to make it happen.  First, they have to want to come to Detroit and second the money needs to make sense.  Very tricky things.  Iginla had no interest in coming to Detroit when he was being shopped around.  That might change, however, now that Detroit is in the East and he won’t have to go back to Calgary all the time. Still, it’s a long, long shot.

I never really considered buying out Franzen as an option.  I think Bertuzzi or Samuelsson were options or maybe Carlo Colavaccio, though he was ok during the playoffs.  He was hardly noticable, which is a good thing.

I would like the Wings to add a defensemen, but, barring some trade, they are going to be pretty locked in to this set for the most part:  Kronwall, Ericsson, Quincey, DeKeyser, Smith and Kindl at the very least.

The back-up goaltending situation is bad.  The Monster stunk.  Howard will need to be able to rest more and a semi-capable back-up would be nice.

The playoff “run” as it was, was pretty fun.  I think they had a good matchup in the first round.  Anaheim was very beatable.  They won 3 more games than I thought they would against Chicago and played the “best” team in the NHL very tough.  That said, even with the lowered expectations, getting knocked out in the second round after being up 3 games to 1, really shouldn’t be acceptable.  Yes, the Wings have a lot of young players who learned a lot and grew, but the organization should still be striving for excellence.  Basically “standing pat” again during this off-season is far from that.  Other than Brunner, Colavaccio was the only free agent from last year’s crop who played any kind of significant role in the playoffs.

Posted by Ajax19 on 05/30/13 at 05:11 PM ET

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And if that trade doesn’t work out (like, for example, the Nash and Bouwmeester trades didn’t work out)?  Boom.  The team goes boom.

So why not tap the UFA market, guys like Clarkson are available and even 3rd/4th line guys like Bickell are available.  Buying out Samuelsson is the ultimate no brainer, that extra $3mm can be used to make your team a bit bigger, younger and healthier.

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 05:19 PM ET

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I don’t think Tatar is the answer, but if Holland is still looking at Samuelsson as a piece to the puzzle after what Babcock has done with the “youth movement” then there’s really a serious disconnect between GM and coach.

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 04:17 PM ET

Why is that the choice?  Why isn’t Sammy vs Eaves or Emmerton or Miller or Tootoo?

Posted by HockeyinHD on 05/30/13 at 05:08 PM ET

Tatar was just the name that popped in my head.  Point is Sammy over ANYONE who is on this team is a mistake.  I just don’t get KH’s logic at the deadline about not wanting rentals, to embrace the youth movement, and then signing aging, health risks in he off-season.  Sammy is the perfect buy-out candidate.  We. Don’t. Need. Him.

I’d like Mule gone too, but it’ll never happen.  He hasn’t been the same player since Doan decapitated him a few playoffs ago.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 05/30/13 at 05:23 PM ET

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Bertuzzi was just fine on the fourth line. Hell, Bertuzzi was rather decent as a net-front guy even on the first line. All this talk of buying him out at his fairly decent cap hit is ludicrous.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 05/30/13 at 05:32 PM ET

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I just don’t get KH’s logic at the deadline about not wanting rentals, to embrace the youth movement

Exactly right, this youth movement happened IN SPITE of Holland’s objective.  If he wanted a youth movement he would never have reached into the garbage dump for guys like Samuelsson.

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 05:33 PM ET

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There’s a lot of players I’d like over Franzen. He is good for 50-55 pts/season though. Better than a lot guys making his cap hit, but worse than others. My complaint with him is he could be an 80 pt/season guy if he worked harder. He floats around and disappears for large chunks of the season or any game. He used to be the Incredible Hulk - you wouldn’t like him when he’s mad. Now he’s not even that anymore, who knows what it takes to motivate him. None of the Wings coaches or players do, that’s for sure.

Posted by awould on 05/30/13 at 05:48 PM ET

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Wait who was franzen playing with when he went all crazy n shits?  and against?

Posted by RhymeTimeWingsDings on 05/30/13 at 05:51 PM ET

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There’s a lot of players I’d like over Franzen. He is good for 50-55 pts/season though. Better than a lot guys making his cap hit, but worse than others. My complaint with him is he could be an 80 pt/season guy if he worked harder. He floats around and disappears for large chunks of the season or any game. He used to be the Incredible Hulk - you wouldn’t like him when he’s mad. Now he’s not even that anymore, who knows what it takes to motivate him. None of the Wings coaches or players do, that’s for sure.

It’s not the scoring droughts, I can live with that, it’s that he does nothing else if he’s not scoring.  He needs to be hard to play against, make a difference even when he’s not scoring, throw his weight around.  That is what bothers me, he’s invisible unless he shows up on the stat sheet.

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 06:08 PM ET

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2 things:

1. There are 11 forwards under contract for next year. Add Andy & Nyquist (RFAs) that’s 13 total. That leaves Brunner, Miller, Cleary, Fil all unsigned UFAs. I like both Miller and Cleary but we don’t need more 3rd/4th line guys. Brunner - sign him. So there’s 14 forwards. Tatar is in the last year of his EL contract so he could play in either GR or DET.

2. There are 5 d-men under contract. Sign RFAs Kindle & Smith and you’re at 7. DK can be sent to GR since he’s on an EL contract (hey, don’t shoot the messenger smile )

So I can see KH starting the season as-is, no buy-outs. But I could also see him sifting through the buy-out trash bin (Heatley? Richards?) to bring someone on board for that top six forward.

Posted by AZWinger on 05/30/13 at 06:12 PM ET

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Bertuzzi was just fine on the fourth line.

Great, except that the third line is (or should be) set and the fourth line is already overflowing.  And Bert is also not an upgrade on the fourth line.

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 06:16 PM ET

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Free Press’s Jeff Seidel, who suggests that the Wings’ playoff run has made him a “believer” in the Wings’ organizational philosophy:

So does that mean if they lost in regulation in game 45, 46, 47 or 48 he wouldn’t be a believer?  Too much to not like about this article.

Posted by jkm2011 on 05/30/13 at 06:39 PM ET

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Why is that the choice?  Why isn’t Sammy vs Eaves or Emmerton or Miller or Tootoo?

Posted by HockeyinHD on 05/30/13 at 05:08 PM ET

Probably because Sammy is not a checker, and those others are.  Are you seriously asking this?

So why not tap the UFA market, guys like Clarkson are available and even 3rd/4th line guys like Bickell are available.  Buying out Samuelsson is the ultimate no brainer, that extra $3mm can be used to make your team a bit bigger, younger and healthier.

Posted by bababooey on 05/30/13 at 05:19 PM ET

Uhhh, because the Wings have a glut already of 3rd and 4th liners?  Why pay more for UFA bottom six guys?  And really, what’s with the raging hard-on some of you have for Clarkson?


People wanting Franzen traded really need a wake-up call in terms of salary and production.  I’ll say it again: go find me 30 G’s/yr for under $4m/yr.

 

Posted by Primis on 05/30/13 at 06:52 PM ET

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And really, what’s with the raging hard-on some of you have for Clarkson?

Posted by Primis on 05/30/13 at 06:52 PM ET

Here’s Clarkson’s 2011-2012 stat line:

80 games played
30 goals
16 assists
46 pts
138 PIMs

Last year, his 15 goals would have tied for the lead on Detroit (with Datsyuk) and his 78 pims would have tied him for the lead on Detroit (with TooToo).

I am not sure if that’s enough to qualify for a “raging hard-on”, but it should be at least enough to make you feel it move like Costanza on the masseur’s table.

Posted by Ajax19 on 05/30/13 at 07:29 PM ET

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While there is certainly room for doubt, I highly doubt Holland would come right out in the media and say “we’re buying out Sammy”, especially since he’s hurt (again). I’m hoping this all just a smokescreen.

Posted by moocat on 05/30/13 at 07:31 PM ET

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Bertuzzi was just fine on the fourth line. Hell, Bertuzzi was rather decent as a net-front guy even on the first line. All this talk of buying him out at his fairly decent cap hit is ludicrous.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 05/30/13 at 05:32 PM ET

Bertuzzi doesn’t work on the fourth line.  That’s why he was benched.  He doesn’t have the speed necessary to keep up and the other fourth line guys don’t have the skills necessary to create his chances for him.  I like Bert.  He brought decent value on the second line for a while, but his skill set just isn’t suitable for what the Wings want out of their fourth line and I think he’s just lost too much to really contribute as a top 6 forward at this point.

Posted by Ajax19 on 05/30/13 at 07:32 PM ET

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What we can almost guarantee with 100% certainty out of the Wings: Nyquist, Anderson, Smith (even with the turnovers), and Kindl will be qualified: the Wings will match all but ridiculous offers for them.

Does anyone know the arbitration rights the players/clubs have now in the CBA?

The Wings will have 8 d-men (9 if White is re-signed) for 7 roster spots. Lashoff’s AHL cap hit is now irrelevant: someone has to get traded.

Also let us face it: Miller’s gone.Don’t want him to be, but with the current contracts. Sammy’s injury could be preventing a buyout. Other team’s cap situations freezing the trade market and the Wings have more than enough 3rd liners/4th liners

What does the new CBA say about LTIR (figuring Sammy will need more than a summer to recover) for a 35+ player? If the Wings aren’t spending to the cap does it even matter?

Franzen’s cap hit of 3.95M is not going anywhere for the next 3 seasons (once his actual salary goes below his cap hit it may interest a cap floor team). And agree that 28-30 goal a year pace he produces is undervalued at that cap hit. I think the issue is how streaky he has gotten and how a guy known for producing in the playoffs is doing the exact opposite and why.

Brunner should be back, but he helped himself to at least a raise by scoring in the playoffs.

I’d say the real issues are is White going to be re-signed (hopefully not) and ditto for Filppula (with the same no based on the rumored 5M contract being sought and the likelihood of bought-out talent). I make a push for Brad Richards.

But he what do I know I’m just the guy that was begging for them to sign Semin last summer…

Posted by d ca on 05/30/13 at 07:44 PM ET

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I’ll say it again: go find me 30 G’s/yr for under $4m/yr.

Clarkson.

Ryder.

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 07:54 PM ET

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If a healthy Bertuzzi did not suit up in the playoffs, why have him on the team next year?

I really wonder about the dynamic between Babcock and Holland over how to rebuild the team.  Babcock I guess would be more ruthless in changing personnel & adding youth, size & speed.  Holland would be slower to change, and let old guys hang on longer. 

Only time will tell how it plays out.

cool hmm

Posted by w2j2 on 05/31/13 at 12:26 AM ET

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Holland would never come right out and state - or even imply through omission - that he is buying anyone out at this point. Just relax.

Posted by jaromirblogger on 05/31/13 at 04:58 AM ET

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So why not tap the UFA market, guys like Clarkson are available and even 3rd/4th line guys like Bickell are available. 

Because the team is already filled, even assuming Fil and White don’t re-sign.

Buying out Samuelsson is the ultimate no brainer, that extra $3mm can be used to make your team a bit bigger, younger and healthier.

It would be dumb to buy out Sammy.  The only real problem there this year was health, which yes it was a huge problem in this goofy season, but still.  If healthy, and there’s no reason to think he won’t be so to start the year next year, Sammy is a viable middle six forward who scores goals.  What would Detroit be looking for on the UFA market?  A viable middle six forward who can score goals.

If there’s some fantastic UFA deal out there to be made and all it takes it pushing Sammy out an airlock, then whatever.  I don’t care overmuch in that scenario.  However, I have seen no evidence that kind of player is available in the UFA market, and Detroit’s far enough under the cap (assuming Helm is on LTIR) that they can sign a Roy or a Connolly or a Bouchard or a Horton… guys in the 3.5-4.5 mil range… and still keep Sammy.  They’d just waive Eaves or Emmerton instead.

Exactly right, this youth movement happened IN SPITE of Holland’s objective.  If he wanted a youth movement he would never have reached into the garbage dump for guys like Samuelsson.

I’ve seen this said before, and I just don’t get it.  I mean, you dudes understand it is possible to have both vets and young guys on the team, right?  You have guys like Sammy and Bert on the team to have competition for the jobs, and in case the kids get hurt, or in case the kids suck.

It’s called having options.

Sure, Holland could just have 15 26 and under dudes on the roster with no vet depth around behind or ahead of them… but what does that mean?  What positive impact does it have?  None.

Point is Sammy over ANYONE who is on this team is a mistake.

Well, that’s just silly then.  You’re just running an anti-player bias out there.  The past two years Sammy has a goal every 4 games.  In a full season that’s a 20 goal guy.  You don’t run a 20 goal guy out the door because you don’t like him.  The issue with him is health.  If he’s not going to be able to play next year, then sure… put him on LTIR or buy him out or trade him for a bag of pucks.  I don’t think he’s going to miss the entirety, or even the majority, of the season next year, however.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 05/31/13 at 07:30 AM ET

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Mule’s contract is an albatross, the guy floats at 33yrs old (or whatever he is) can you imagine when the cap hit is still 3.95mm/yr and he’s playing at 36 or 37 yrs old?

here’s the thing with franzen - after 37 his contract dives and given his perceived effort level is he even going to want to play for $3.5 million the next year?
2 million the year after?
or will he up and retire leaving the wings with 2-3 million of dead cap space for 3-4 years?
trading him won’t make the dead cap space disappear, and i don’t know enough about the recapture rule to know if the wings can save themselves from the dead cap space by buying him out in 2016.
then again is mr i willing to pony up $18 million + to send the mule packing and free up $4 million of cap space today, that could be put to use for a top 6 winger who isn’t so streaky?

 

Posted by syndrome on 05/31/13 at 08:24 AM ET

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Holland would never come right out and state - or even imply through omission - that he is buying anyone out at this point.

Who said anything about that?  He actively offered up that he thinks that a healthy Bert and Sammy would be a good thing to have on the roster.  And nobody asked him.

Just relax.

Fair enough.  “Just relax” worked when people were fretting that he didn’t replace Rafalski and didn’t replace Stuart and didn’t replace Lidstrom, right?

Posted by Garth on 05/31/13 at 08:47 AM ET

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Ryder.

Please!

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 05/31/13 at 09:48 AM ET

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Clarkson.

Ryder.

Posted by Garth on 05/30/13 at 07:54 PM ET

Not on the open market, not for less than $4m.  No.  Please feel free to cite dependable 30 goal-scorers that have gone to UFA and gotten under $4M.  I’ll wait.

Jiri Hudler got $4m for scoring 20 what once, twice?

Get your head out of yours aft and get some perspective.

Posted by Primis on 05/31/13 at 11:25 AM ET

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