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Detrtoit’s Compete Level Not There In Loss To The Dallas Stars

from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

This seemed too much like last season went for the Red Wings, not playing a consistently effective 60 minutes of hockey.

That was certainly the case Tuesday, as a poor start was too much to overcome in a 4-2 loss to the Dallas Stars.

The Red Wings (2-1) saw their modest season-opening two-game win streak end rather abruptly.

“We didn’t have nearly enough offensive zone time,” coach Jeff Blashill said. “Our competitive level can’t be fine, it has to be outstanding. We didn’t have enough guys skating well enough, (so) we didn’t have enough pressure.

“When we pressured them we were able to create turnovers but we didn’t do enough of it.”

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——This seemed too much like last season went
——I had the same thought for most of the game

Posted by VPalmer on 10/11/17 at 08:41 AM ET

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Posted by VPalmer on 10/11/17 at 08:41 AM ET

Agree - I thought that when I saw the Wings were getting doubled up in shots. smile

Posted by ilovehomers on 10/11/17 at 08:43 AM ET

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And again, what a bizarre decision to bench a hot goalie for this one with back to back coming up later this week.

Posted by VPalmer on 10/11/17 at 08:45 AM ET

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——This seemed too much like last season went
——I had the same thought for most of the game

Posted by VPalmer on 10/11/17 at 08:41 AM ET

That’s exactly what I thought too, last years Wings are back. Complete inability to get out of their zone cleanly.

Big E had a decent game. Oullette was awful.

3rd period was pretty entertaining.

Posted by George0211 on 10/11/17 at 08:52 AM ET

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Oullette was awful.

Agreed. Like Kronwall, he makes decent decisions with the puck, but he is lacking in mobility and speed. That hurts when you have to recover from the turnovers that this team is bound to give up. He got absolutely walked on that third goal. He’s nothing to write home about offensively either. Sproul would probably make more mistakes, but at least he has more speed to recover and he can actually be an offensive threat. I think that’s worth the trade off.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 10/11/17 at 09:24 AM ET

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Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 10/11/17 at 09:24 AM ET

My guess is Sproul is playing in the next game.

 

Posted by George0211 on 10/11/17 at 09:25 AM ET

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Compete level? Well this is the reason why Blashill would bench AA, Mantha, Smith, etc…

So is there a vet that could perhaps be benched after last night? Did Sheahan and Glendummy have outstanding compete levels? What abou Abby coming on for the 6-on-5 and being more interested in a shoving match than seeking the tying goal? Nyquist looked afraid to get hit.

Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 09:29 AM ET

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——This seemed too much like last season went
——I had the same thought for most of the game

Posted by VPalmer on 10/11/17 at 08:41 AM ET

From Same ol’ Lions to Same ol’ Wings, amirite?

We were atrocious in our own zone. Exposed once again by the more physical, puck-possessing WC style we pretty much invented. It’s really sad to watch. Couldn’t get out of the zone, couldn’t keep it in theirs (or really get it in all too often). What’s the point of speed if you don’t go anywhere?

Oullette was awful.

Agreed. Like Kronwall, he makes decent decisions with the puck, but he is lacking in mobility and speed. That hurts when you have to recover from the turnovers that this team is bound to give up. He got absolutely walked on that third goal. He’s nothing to write home about offensively either. Sproul would probably make more mistakes, but at least he has more speed to recover and he can actually be an offensive threat. I think that’s worth the trade off.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 10/11/17 at 09:24 AM ET

Our whole team was shit on the 3rd goal. Ouellet gets shook, Jensen gets spun around even though he has support from Mantha, and then Mantha decides to defend towards the outside in front of the net. Just bad defensive play altogether. If Mantha takes the inside angle there he forces the Dallas player to go to the boards or the point instead of a quick turnaround shot.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Sproul up, but I’d rather see Hicketts.

On to the rest of the team:

Compete level? Well this is the reason why Blashill would bench AA, Mantha, Smith, etc…

So is there a vet that could perhaps be benched after last night? Did Sheahan and Glendummy have outstanding compete levels? What abou Abby coming on for the 6-on-5 and being more interested in a shoving match than seeking the tying goal? Nyquist looked afraid to get hit.

Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 09:29 AM ET

I would bench everybody but Zetterberg, Frk, and Mrazek after last night. In this game we couldn’t seal off the slot as usual, and were even worse at clearing it. On the Klingberg goal, DeKeyser allows his man to push inside him past the corner of the net, which allows him to apply what looks like the best timed screen I’ve seen in a good long while. A strong defender doesn’t let that happen. I saw a mad scramble in front of the net while our allegedly physical grind line with Gritkowski, Sheahan, and Glendening was out in which Dallas was just slamming Mrazek and NOBODY took their man out. As it turns out, it’s at about 5:20 in the highlight reel. HIT SOMEONE FOR F$%&S SAKE. We have to be the softest team in front of our net in the NHL, and teams are going to pick up on that VERY quickly.

Nyquist always looks scared to get hit. Tatar continues to have the puck possession jitters. Our defense is weak, can’t break the puck out, and hangs Mrazek out to dry AGAIN. Larkin looked invisible except the play where he hit the post. Abdelkader gets put on a 6v5 and immediately proceeds to squander it by trying to fight someone for reasons unknown. Green fails to seal off the slot early in the game allowing a Dallas player to just walk in front of the net, then allows for a similar opportunity on our powerplay when he gets caught puckwatching and fails to pick up the second man cutting to the slot. I know it was a point of contention with us last year, but seriously watch the way this team plays in front of Mrazek vs. Howard this season. You can’t really blame any of these goals on Mrazek except the 3rd. On the first you had weak net front D allowing for an incredibly timely screen, on goal 2 you had a crazy knuckler one-timer shot by Tyler Seguin that no goalie would have stopped, and on the third, even though Mrazek should have been better on his post, you still had THREE Detroit defenders look like pylons on the play.

Mantha scored again but really showed why he is criticized for disengaging. On goal 3 he had at least two opportunities to end that play but didn’t. He can be a star if he just goes balls out, and this team NEEDS him to do that.

So to your point, Savage, yes there are absolutely some vets that deserve to be benched after last night. But with the exception of Frk I’d say the kids deserve it too, and one of them scored.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 10/11/17 at 10:15 AM ET

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Also, can someone explain the use of Witkowski last night?

We know it was Blashill who pushed all summer to sign him.

We’ve heard his greatest asset is his versatility…he can play defense, he can play forward.

So Dekeyser goes down with an injury with a period to go. Seems like the perfect opportunity to slide Witkowski to defense. Because anyone with an ounce of hockey knowledge knows that it is so much easier to be one forward short than it is to roll 5 d-men. 

But instead, Blashill plays the entire period with 5 d-men, putting a ton of responsibility on Daley, Green, and Ericsson. Meanwhile, Witkowski and the rest of the 4th line was stapled to the bench for most of the 3rd period. Seriously. Did anyone in the media even ask Blashill why he didn’t take advantage of our secret little versatile weapon? You could have had Jensen or Ouellet join Daley, and then Witkowski take a few shifts on a 3rd pair.

Great coaching Blashill!

Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 10:20 AM ET

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I watched some of the Vegas game last night, and if that’s the team that shows up when the Wings are in town on Friday it’s going to be embarrassing.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 10/11/17 at 10:22 AM ET

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Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 10:20 AM ET

This is actually a GREAT point.

Posted by ilovehomers on 10/11/17 at 10:22 AM ET

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Nyquist looked afraid to get hit.

Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 09:29 AM ET


Nyquist always looks like he’s avoiding any hit. He is too soft .

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 10/11/17 at 10:30 AM ET

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Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 10:20 AM ET

Great point, Savage. It really was perplexing considering how much our D was already getting manhandled. Then again, Witkowski was out on the play 5:20 into that “highlight” video, and didn’t seem all that interested in using his “grit” to clear the attackers out of our crease when Mrazek was down.

I watched some of the Vegas game last night, and if that’s the team that shows up when the Wings are in town on Friday it’s going to be embarrassing.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 10/11/17 at 10:22 AM ET

Personally, I hope they mop the floor with us to show Mr. Delusional that our team is worse than an expansion team.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 10/11/17 at 10:34 AM ET

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Vegas and Nosek scoring on the Wings would be about right. If the Wings of last night take the ice in Vegas, it will indeed be embarrassing for the Wings and their fans.

However, this game only goes to show how inept this coach is at managing the team. He has to make some of the worst personnel decisions I have ever seen in a coach. Three seasons in and he’s still way out of his league.

If it’s KH calling the shots, Blashill should resign. If it’s Blashill alone, KH should fire him. I was always a strong supporter of KH but his work during the past 3 years, has slowly eroded my respect for him as a GM….time for him to be fired or moved upstairs.

Posted by NewfieWing on 10/11/17 at 11:35 AM ET

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.....We didn’t have enough guys skating well enough….

...gee if only there was a player out there who could really well who could help…. confused

Posted by Down River Dan on 10/11/17 at 11:38 AM ET

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The team said that they had something to prove this year.
It appeared last night that their 2 - 0 start was sufficient to prove the point so they brought their mediocre for this one.
Are we done boys? Point made?

Posted by Ventr on 10/11/17 at 11:46 AM ET

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I am aware there are a lot of problems, but I am the only one thinking Helm looks absolutely lost out there, and dare I say slow at times?

Posted by nolan33 on 10/11/17 at 12:10 PM ET

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I think it would be safe to say last night’s game was what most Wings fans thought this season would be like.

Without a full effort from everyone, this is what we can expect.  Even then, some games they will play well and lose, talent level is just not there for the Wings.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 10/11/17 at 12:13 PM ET

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They simply can’t ice this defense and expect to get much better results. Daley is an improvement but there are way too many holes. When your “best” defenseman is Mike Green, that says a ton.

I hate seeing Tats and Nyquist playing together. In principle it sounds good but evidence has shown it is a bad combo. Blashill is stupid for even trying it again.

I don’t care how many spectacular saves Mrazek makes if he is going to allow a goal like that 3rd one. That goal was atrocious.

Posted by evileye on 10/11/17 at 12:47 PM ET

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I’m glad we invested 3 years in Daley. Wouldn’t want to just see what Sproul or Hicketts can do. Since the roster blows anyway.

It’s like if a hurricane rips the roof off your house and rain is pouring in. But Kenny is standing in the kitchen trying to fix a leaky faucet.

Sorry Mr. Magoo, Time to open your eyes. You aren’t 2% away. All these guys that you were hoping to have bounce back seasons is complete fantasy.

Abby was always an 8-12 goal scorer. Last year he had 7. But Kenny thinks he can bounce back to 23 - without Pav and Zee holding his hand.

Nyquist and Tatar are career 40-50 point guys. Which is exactly what they delivered last year. Yet Kenny thinks they are going to bounce back. From what Kenny? This is what they are.

He thinks Dekesyer is a young #2 d-man. Sorry Kenny. He’s a 4/5 on most rosters.

A healthy Kronwall can make a huge difference. Sorry Kenny. He’s never going to be healthy. And even then, he’s a 5/6 at this stage. Your roster is already loaded with 5/6 guys.

It’s sad to see management so delusional. Hope the building has lots of empty seats so Illitch opens his eyes…

Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 12:49 PM ET

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Khan tweet…

Danny DeKeyser (lower body injury) is listed as day to day. Wings at Arizona Thursday

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 10/11/17 at 12:57 PM ET

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Nyquist looked afraid to get hit.

Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 09:29 AM ET

Bingo!!

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/11/17 at 01:07 PM ET

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OK boys. Timeout. We’re only down by 1 goal with 1 minute left. So we’re going to pull the goalie here. Abby, you are the guy going on the ice. Mantha stays on the bench, you know, because of his compete level or something like that. AA is gone. Witkowski is a defensemen I think. Helm has the speed to actually hop over the boards and quickly get into the play, but Abby gets the nod because he’s from Michigan.

So Abby, when you get on the ice, please randomly skate up to someone and start pushing and shoving. Ignore the puck. Get tied up in the offensive zone so we all have to wait for you to clear the zone before trying to attack again. The other 5 of you, just treat this like a PP where you stand around and do nothing.

Got it boys. OK. 1-2-3…Octopi!!

Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 01:42 PM ET

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Posted by fatsavage on 10/11/17 at 01:42 PM ET

That is both Humorous and Accurate!  Needed a Laugh!

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/11/17 at 02:46 PM ET

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——This seemed too much like last season went
——I had the same thought for most of the game

They were lousy from the goal on out. Mrazek didn’t have much of a chance on the first 2 Steer’s goals, but oh that third goal. shut eye

Posted by bigfrog on 10/11/17 at 07:31 PM ET

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Here’s a fact.

It was dumb to get optimistic based on a performance against the Karlsson-less Senators.

Posted by captaineclectic on 10/11/17 at 09:35 PM ET

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