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Daniel Alfredsson will sign a 1-year deal with the Red Wings today

Tis official:

Updated 23x at 3:59 PM: After fifteen updates to the Daniel Alfredsson rumor thread, here's the gnus regarding Alfredsson joining the Red Wings:

And, regarding Daniel Cleary (no news on Damien Brunner or Valtteri Filppula as of yet)...

Alfredsson will fit in--the Wings do not expect him to be a superstar, but instead, part of the puzzle--and given that Khan's reporting that Stephen Weiss wants $6 million a season for 5 years (Clarkson and Horton want more $/term), it's no wonder that the Wings went for a back-up plan.

FYI:

Update #1:

 

And, regarding Cleary:

Update #1.5:

Update #2:

The Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness says that Alfredsson coming = Cleary going:

Alfredsson, who’s a right-handed shot, had 10 goal and 16 assists in 47 games this last season.

The signing means that Daniel Cleary is likely not returning.

Cleary was looking for a three-year deal at around $3 million per season.

Dallas could be a nice landing spot for Cleary, where Jim Nill has taken over. The Stars also just signed Shawn Horcoff, who has become good friends with Cleary.

Update #3: The Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch has weighed in:

This will be shocking news for the people of Ottawa, but Alfredsson informed the club before unrestricted free agency because he wanted to give the Senators time to find a replacement.

Former Senators coach Jacques Martin, an analyst for TVA Sports in Montreal who was with Alfredsson from 1996 to 2004, said he was surprised by the news.

“I am surprised. I know what kind of person, character and what he’s meant to the franchise,” said Martin from Montreal. “At the same time, I almost compare it to Ray Bourque.

“When you look at Ray Bourque in Boston, he was that franchise, he was the ultimate. Daniel is the same. Does he have a chance winning a Cup in Ottawa next year? Well ... He probably feels he has a chance of winning a Stanley Cup.”

Martin said this was a tough decision for Alfredsson.

“I’m sure that was difficult. He has played his entire career there. He really is Mr. Ottawa,” said Martin. “When you think about Ottawa and their team, they’ve been outstanding he’s been a big part of that with his leadership and play. He probably felt that he wanted to give himself a chance of winning a Stanley Cup. He’s won a gold medal with Sweden. If he goes to Detroit, they’ve got several Swedish players.”

Update #4: Via RedWingsFeed, Expressen's Gunnar Nordstrom confirmed that Alfredsson's leaving Ottawa in a conversation with his agent, J.P. Barry.

Update #4.5:

Update #5: The Free Press's Helene St. James has posited an Alfredsson story:

A person close to the situation told the Detroit Free Press this morning that Alfredsson has chosen the Wings as his new home. Alfredsson, 40, has spent his entire career with the Ottawa Senators, but when he became an unrestricted free agent this week, he opted to look elsewhere.

The Wings are an ideal fit for many reasons: Alfredsson is a skilled right winger who shoots right, something the Wings lack. He's Swedish, which never hurts in joining a team that already boasts seven Swedes.

The deal is for one-year, and heavy on bonuses that, if needed, can be deferred to 2014-15, when the salary cap will rise above next season's $64.3 million.

Alfredsson will be the 13th forward under contract for next season, a number that will grow by two when restricted free agents Joakim Andersson and Gustav Nyquist are re-signed.

There are numerous questions, though, that hang over that current roster, including whether Darren Helm and Mikael Samuelsson will be able to play next season after both spent almost all of last season injured.

Update #6: Money's good. Wings can exceed the cap for performance bonuses for 35+ players:

Update #7: TSN's Scott Cullen on Alfredsson:

The Red Wings Get: RW Daniel Alfredsson.

Alfredsson, 40, suffered through the worst year of his career in 2010-2011, but has rebounded in the two years since to score 85 points in 122 games. That 0.70 points per game as a 39 and 40-year-old player ranks sixth since 1980 among players aged 39, 40 and 41. Alfredsson also put up better puck possession numbers in the last couple seasons too, an indication that his production rebound wasn't merely by luck.

A 13-time 20-goal scorer, Alfredsson has also been logging big minutes for the Senators, playing 19:21 per game last season, second-highest among Ottawa forwards.

In Detroit, Alfredsson will likely play a prominent role if not necessarily quite as many minutes, perhaps skating on the wing with fellow Swede Henrik Zetterberg, a position that should afford Alfredsson the opportunity to produce enough to justify his place on the depth chart, since Zetterberg consistently holds an edge in territorial play, regardless of who his linemates have been over the years.

At the same time, Alfresson did generate only 2.15 shots per game last season, the second-lowest rate of his career and his shooting percentage (9.9%) was the third-lowest of his career, so there are signs of declining production. Could he still score 50-plus points in a full season? Sure.

Ottawa will miss Alfredsson, who also led the team with 10 points in 10 playoff games last season, but the Senators have Jakob Silfverberg heading into his second season and Alfredsson's departure will likely make the Senators a more active suitor in free agency, where they could get highly-coveted David Clarkson, but may also want to consider Jarome Iginla, Michael Ryder or Clarke MacArthur to help replace the lost production.

Alfredsson's deal is reportedly for $3.5-million, with bonuses that could make it worth as much as $5.5-million.

It's rare for any player to last his entire career with one franchise, yet it always comes as a shock when one that has remained with a team for so long finally moves on. Alfredsson has given his all to the Senators and has every right to pick and choose where he will spend the last years of his career.

That he feels comfortable with Detroit, a team that still has a strong veteran Swedish contingent (including Johan Franzen, Niklas Kronwall, Jonathan Ericsson and Mikael Samuelsson in addition to Zetterberg) is understandable and, as strange as it might look initially, it's still easy to see Alfredsson as a solid complementary player for the Red Wings and, on a one-year deal, he's a low-risk investment for a team that expects to contend every year.

Update #8:

Update #9:

From DetroitRedWings.com's Bill Roose:

Prior to late Thursday afternoon, Alfredsson wasn’t on the Red Wings’ radar, as their first priority in free agency was to sign a No. 2 center. However, his agent started shopping him around, seeking a one-year deal for the 40-year-old Swede who has spent his entire 17-year NHL career in Ottawa.

Alfredsson has been a highly-consistent player throughout his career, averaging 25 goals and 65 points each season. The Swede had been the Senators’ captain since taking over from Alexei Yashin back in 1999, and has been the linchpin of the franchise ever since – on and off the ice – as almost a point per game producer. On Friday morning, hours before teams could sign new players, the NHL’s longest-serving captain informed the Senators that he wouldn’t return to Ottawa.

The Senators fully anticipated re-signing their captain, whose leadership has often drawn comparisons to Steve Yzerman when he was captain of the Red Wings. Appearing at a news conference Thursday to discuss coach Paul MacLean’s three-year contract extension, Senators general manager Bryan Murray was quite confident that Alfredsson would re-sign with the Canadian club.

Now it appears Alfredsson will finish his illustrious playing career with the Red Wings and among several follow Swedes that he has played alongside at the Olympics and World Championships.

Alfredsson has an impeccable work ethic that will make his transition to the Red Wings’ locker room a smooth one. He’s always been a solid two-way forward, capable of killing penalties or manning the point on the power play. He holds the Senators' franchise records for goals (426), assists (682), and points (1,108) with 1,178 games played. A regular on the international stage, he’s appeared in 13 tournaments for Sweden. He’s played in four Olympics, winning gold in the Torino Games in 2006.

In the 2006 Games, Alfredsson produced personal tournament bests in goals (five), assists (five) and points (10) while playing on the second line with Mats Sundin and Red Wings captain Henrik Zetterberg. Alfredsson has also skated in international tourneys with other Red Wings players and prospects such as Nicklas Lidstrom, Johan Franzen, Jonathan Ericsson, Niklas Kronwall, Calle Jarnkrok, Jonas Gustavsson, Tomas Holmstrom and Mikael Samuelsson.

Alfredsson was the 75th player to reach 1,000 career points in the NHL when he collected three goals in a win at Buffalo on October 22, 2010.

Alfredsson won the 2013 Mark Messier NHL Leadership Award, which is given to the player who exemplifies great leadership qualities to his team, on and off the ice during the regular season. He also was the Calder Trophy recipient as the NHL's rookie of the year in 1996.

The Red Wings entered the open market originally seeking a No. 2 center to fill the role, especially if they were unable to re-sign Valtteri Filppula. The Wings had discussions with representatives for several UFA centerman, including Tyler Bozak, Matt Cullen, Valtteri Filppula, Mikhail Grabovski, Max Lapierre, Mike Ribeiro, Derek Roy and Stephen Weiss.

And MLive's Ansar Khan:

Daniel Alfredsson is 40 and nearing the end of his Hall-of-Fame career, but the Detroit Red Wings believe in his skills, work ethic and character.

The Red Wings moved quickly in free agency today by signing Alfredsson to a one-year, incentive-laden contract. The deal is worth up to $5.5 million. He'll get a base salary of $3.5 million, with an additional $2 million in easily attainable bonuses.

Alfredsson had been the face of the franchise for the Ottawa Senators for 17 seasons. He also was their captain. He desperately wants to win his first Stanley Cup, and apparently feels the Red Wings have a good chance. He also was considering the Cup finalist Boston Bruins.

The Red Wings are moving to the Eastern Conference next season, joining a division that includes the Senators. So Alfredsson will be playing against his former team four or five times and making at least two trips to Ottawa.

The right-handed shooter could join fellow Swede Henrik Zetterberg on the second line.

Alfredsson can play in all situations. He can play the point on the power play and he kills penalties. He is a creative playmaker and has some finishing ability with a good shot.

Update #10: The Ottawa Citizen's Ken Warren confirms:

The news represents quite a turn of events. Only a week ago, Senators fans and players alike were rejoicing over the news Alfredsson, 40, had chosen to return to play another season.

Star defenceman and fellow Swede Erik Karlsson, who has been so close to Alfredsson during his years with the Senators, tweeted “It’s A Beautiful Day” in response to the news, a reference to the song by U2, Alfredsson’s favourite band.

But the music is now over for Senators fans who can’t fathom how the organization could allow the team’s all time leader in every significant offensive and longevity category to get away.

Alfredsson is a borderline Hall of Fame candidate. He has played in 1,178 regular season games, scoring 426 goals and 682 assists. His playoff resumé includes a franchise record 121 games played and a franchise-high 51 goals and 49 assists. He owns his own chapter in the Senators’ record books.

It now appears he will close out his career with a Red Wings franchise that will move to the Eastern Conference for the 2013-14 season.

More to come.

TSN and everyone else are confirming, too.

Update #11: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan confirms and adds the following:

Red Wings GM Ken Holland has other issues to deal with other than Alfredsson. Forwards Valtteri Filppula, Daniel Cleary and Damien Brunner are all unrestricted free agents.

Cleary could be bound for Dallas, where former Red Wings assistant GM Jim Nill is now the GM of the Stars.

Brunner appears to be headed for the free-agent market and likely will not return to the Wings.

The Red Wings could also be in the hunt for one of many unrestricted free agent centers available such as Mike Ribeiro, Stephen Weiss or Mikhail Grabovski.

WDIV of all places is confirming, as is the Windsor Star's Bob Duff.

Update #12: Via RedWingsFeed, here's Craig Button on the signing:

Update #13: The Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness confirms:

Wings general manager Ken Holland reached out to Alfredsson on Thursday.

Alfredsson, who can play the point on the power play as well as kill penalties, wants to win a Stanley Cup and therefore narrowed his choices of where to play between Detroit, Boston and Ottawa.

Alfredsson, who had been the league’s longest serving captain, will fit well in the Wings locker room that’s full of Swedish-born players and could fit well on a line with Henrik Zetterberg.

That makes eight Swedes now in Detroit’s locker room – Zetterberg, Niklas Kronwall, Jonathan Ericsson, Johan Franzen, Mikael Samuelsson, Gustav Nyquist and Jonas Gustavsson.

Alfredsson, who’s a right-handed shot, had 10 goal and 16 assists in 47 games this last season.

Over his 1,178-game career, he has 426 goals and 682 assists.

Update #14: Here's the official press release:

RED WINGS AGREE TO TERMS WITH FREE AGENT FORWARD DANIEL ALFREDSSON ON A ONE-YEAR DEAL

... 17-Year NHL Veteran has Collected 1,108 Points in 1,178 Games …

Detroit, MI... Detroit Red Wings Executive Vice President and General Manager Ken Holland today announced that the club has agreed to terms with free agent forward Daniel Alfredsson on a one-year contract.  In accordance with team policy, additional terms of the deal will not be disclosed.

Alfredsson, 40, has spent his entire 17-year National Hockey League career with the Ottawa Senators, the team that selected him in the sixth round (133rd overall) of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft.  The 5-11, 200-lb. forward has skated in 1,178 career regular season games, collecting 426 goals (sixth among active NHL players) and 682 assists (fourth among active players) for 1,108 points.  Alfredsson is Ottawa’s all-time leader in games played, goals, assists and points.  The Gothenburg, Sweden, native has captained the Senators since the 1999-2000 season.  A dependable two-way player, Alfredsson has a career plus-minus rating of +153 (10th among active players) and has notched 69 career game-winning goals (eighth among active players).  In 121 career postseason games, he has registered 51 goals and 49 assists for 100 points.

Alfredsson won the 1996 Calder Memorial Trophy as the NHL Rookie of the Year after posting 61 points (26G-35A-61P) in 82 games during his freshman campaign and was named to the 1995-96 All-Rookie Team.  He has skated in six career NHL All-Star Games (1996, ’97, ’98, 2004, ’08, ’12) and was named a Second Team NHL All-Star following the 2005-06 season when he posted career-bests with 43 goals, 60 assists and 103 points.  Known for his leadership qualities on and off the ice, Alfredsson has been recognized with two awards over the past two seasons, winning the King Clancy Memorial Trophy in 2012 for humanitarian contributions to his community and the Mark Messier Leadership Award in 2013 as the player who exemplifies great leadership qualities to his team during the regular season.

Fox Sports Detroit's Art Regner also confirms...

Alfredsson, 40, is a right-handed shot, which Detroit has desperately searched for during the past several seasons.

A 17-year veteran, Alfredsson has spent entire career with the Senators. In 1178 games, he has 426 goals and 682 assists. He’s played in 121 playoffs games and has totaled 51 goals and 49 assists.

This is a good fit for the Wings. Not only is Alfredsson -- 5 feet 11 inches tall and 203 pounds -- a premiere forward, but his influence on the Wings' young crop of forwards will be immeasurable. It’s expected that he’ll play right wing on Henrik Zetterberg’s line.

Detroit has always coveted Swedish players, so it’s a no-brainer that they would pursue Alfredsson  once it became clear that he wouldn’t be returning to the Senators.

What’s next for the Wings remains to be seen. Reports are circulating that Daniel Cleary and Damien Brunner are not coming back to Detroit, which might give them the opportunity to go after Pavel Datsyuk’s close friend, Mikhail Grabovski.

Update #15: Niklas Kronwall spoke to Expressen's Jonathan Lindquist about the deal, describing Alfredsson as legendary.

Update #16: It's an auto-play clip, but, via RedWingsFeed, Sportsnet's Ian Mendes weighed in as he's their Senators beat reporter.

Update #17: Henrik Zetterberg told Aftonbladet's Per Bjurman that he's absolutely delighted with the news.

Update #18: The Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch offered reaction from Ottawa:

"It’s very disappointing,” said [Marc] Methot. “The biggest thing is it caught a lot of us off guard. We all were pretty adamant that he was going to return because he is grounded in this city and so well-loved that something would work out. He’s got the right to do what he wants to do. He has meant everything to this city. It’s just a really a tough situation because it’s happening in the middle of the summer. If it was happpening at the trade deadline and the team wasn’t doing so well, it’d be different. It’s something we have to deal with.”

The Senators aren’t just losing a player, they are losing a large presence in the dressing room.

“That’s a huge hole in terms of leadership because Alfie is so well respected and he’s been so good with all the Swedish players on our team that have looked up to him,” said Methot. “It’s sad. You’re going to see a lot of upset people but that’s the harsh reality of this game.”

Methot said he thinks the club is well-positioned to win.

“I like us for next year,” he said. “We’re a contender. All these experience with the young guys, great goaltending and a solid defence, I like us going into next year. It’s tough to understand it.”

Senators alternate captain Chris Phillips said he got a call from Alfredsson around 9 p.m. Thursday to give him the news that he was gone.

“I was a bit shocked to hear about it as anyone,” said Phillips from his Ottawa home. “He gave me a call and gave me a heads up on what was happening. That was the time that I was shocked. I had a bit of a heads up. I certainly respect what he did. He was up all night thinking about it. The main (reason) was he wants to go win. We didn’t get into it too deep. He had a lot of discussions with his wife Bibi and a lot of other people.”

Ditto for the Ottawa Citizen's Ken Warren:

“I’m shocked, like everybody else,” said right winger Chris Neil. “I thought he would be around and retire here, with his legacy, along with his family and all the stuff he does in the community.”

Neil says he was aware of the rumblings for the past few days and the possibility that Alfredsson could leave, but he still didn’t believe it would happen.

“Obviously, he had his reasons, but probably the only ones who know are him and his family. It’s unfortunate. He will be tough to replace. I’ve always said that Alfie is not the most vocal guy in the locker room, but he always led by example, always scoring that big goal or having that big shift or slowing the game down for a shift. You expect your captain back and it changes the whole make up of the locker room.”

It’s expected that centre Jason Spezza will inherit the captain’s role, but any such decision likely won’t be made until training camp. Defenceman Marc Methot echoed Neil’s thoughts, caught completely off guard by the news.

“It’s disappointing, we all love Alfie so much,” he said. “He’s such a great guy in the room. There’s a reason why we praise him all the time. I’m surprised, but Alfie does have the right to exercise his options. I still thought we had the best chance of (keeping) him.”

Update #19: The Ottawa Citizen's Ken Warren and the Ottawa Sun's Tim Baines are stunned.

Update #20: From the Aftonbladet interview, via St. James:

In response to the Alfredsson signing, Zetterberg told Sweden's Aftonbladet that, "this is fantastic. Alfie was the last Swede I expected to be playing with over here, it's really surprising, but I'm really loooking forward to having him as a teammate.

"We played together in the national team a couple of times, especially on the power play. I expect we'll be together on the PP in Detroit as well and he's gonna be a great addition there.

"I believe he's got a great chance of winning the cup with us. And if we do, there's no debate anymore on who I'll give the Cup to ..."

Update #21:

Update #22:

Update #23: More Alfredsson reaction from Aftonbladet via the Detroit News's Gregg Krupa and Lauren Abdel-Razzaq:

"This is fantastic,” Sportbladet quotes the Wings’ captain, Henrik Zetterberg. “Now there’s a lot of talk about who I will give the (Stanley Cup), if we win.”

That may overstate it, a bit. The fact Alfredsson’s signing is greeted with unbridled enthusiasm by Zetterberg is the best evidence of what the move is all about. When healthy, Alfredsson can still score 20, provide great character and courage, and his insights on the play of other teams and players in the new Eastern Conference of the NHL could prove a significant contribution.

“I am just as surprised as everyone else,” Zetterberg said. “But I am definitely excited to have him as a teammate.”

Speaking of his experience with Alfredsson in international competitions, when both play for Sweden, Zetterberg said, “We haven’t played so much five-on-five but more on the power play, and that went really well.

“We will certainly use him on the power play now, too, and I hope we will even get the opportunity five-on-five. It should be good to try out.”

Zetterberg added, “Absolutely, he fits in perfectly in our game system and will play an important role as a right-handed shot and will be a key player on the power play.

“It will be even better off the ice both for Daniel and his family. I have been here, what is it, ten years, and can attest that it is a wonderfully pleasant place to live in.”

The Red Wing now have nine Swedes on their roster, and it is from A to Z: Alfredsson, Joakim Andersson, Jonathan Ericsson, Johan Franzen, Jonas Gustavsson, Niklas Kronwall, Gustav Nyquist, Mikael Samuelsson and Zetterberg.

Russian Five? How about the Swedish Nine!

Much of the Alfredsson’s desire to come to Detroit may well have to do with both that presence and a shot at his first Stanley Cup after 18 years in the NHL. Other factors may have also spurred his departure from Ottawa, and the thinking around the league is the Senators’ owners have some money problems.

“Yes, we can win,” the Swedish paper quotes Zetterberg, about the Stanley Cup. “I think we had a good season least year, a few of the young guys came forward. Now we’ve got ‘Affe’ and maybe someone else. I think it feels really promising.”

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mrfluffy's avatar

There’s your splash people. I dig it more than Vinny.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/05/13 at 11:45 AM ET

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There’s your splash people. I dig it more than Vinny.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 07/05/13 at 11:45 AM ET

Hard not to dig giving a proven leader & player a reasonable, one-year deal ... versus handing out a deal that could potentially handcuff the team for years to come.

Posted by SK77 on 07/05/13 at 11:50 AM ET

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LOVE THIS MOVE!!!

Compare him to Horton over the last five years:
Alfredsson has played more games (325-301), scored more points (261-209) and has a higher point/game (0.8-0.69).  The only year Horton had a higher point/game was Alfredsson’s injury shortened 2010-2011 season.

Yes, Alfredsson is older and skills are diminishing but the same could be said for Horton.  Horton is 28 which is near the point where players’ best days are behind them.  Also, Alfie won’t be missing the first month of the season with shoulder surgery.

Not to mention the intangibles and the fact that it would be crazy $$ and term.

Posted by P Wix on 07/05/13 at 11:55 AM ET

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I just…can’t imagine why he left Ottawa…and how their fanbase feels. Crazy.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/05/13 at 11:55 AM ET

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I like this signing.  I think he can bring some tricks to the table that our rookies can gain valuable experience from and be productive while doing it.

He’s still a slick goal scorer and maybe he’ll get more time and space here than he was used to.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 11:56 AM ET

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Awesome. Get a legit #2 center and lets go!

Posted by lancer on 07/05/13 at 11:56 AM ET

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I love you Dan Cleary, but three more years….. I hope I can wish you the best in Dallas before today is over.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 07/05/13 at 11:57 AM ET

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Meh.

Posted by godblender on 07/05/13 at 11:57 AM ET

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P Wix, 28 is usually when players ENTER their prime.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 11:58 AM ET

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No surprise, Bruins have been informed their ``out’’ on Alfredsson. B’s lose out to Detroit.

For a fan of a team that isn’t considered a destination by the mainstream anymore, its good to hear something like this.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 07/05/13 at 12:00 PM ET

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As I said before I don’t hate it but… I’m still confused about where Alfie fits in linewise…

Posted by Primis on 07/05/13 at 12:00 PM ET

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@Hockeytownoverhaul I was a little more definite than I should have been.  Many forwards have their best offensive seasons in their mid-20’s.

Posted by P Wix on 07/05/13 at 12:03 PM ET

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Z-Mule-Alfie.  Plus gives Z a right handed shot with 20 years of NHL experience scoring goals.

Pav can carry Abby and Sammy, big guy and a right handed shot on either wing.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:03 PM ET

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A lot of places for Alfie. R shot on either top lines. Or sit him with Anderson and Nyquist on the 3rd to add some experience. I want him on that bench with all of these young players.

Posted by lancer on 07/05/13 at 12:03 PM ET

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Z-Mule-Alfie.  Plus gives Z a right handed shot with 20 years of NHL experience scoring goals.

Pav can carry Abby and Sammy, big guy and a right handed shot on either wing.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:03 PM ET

Given what Tatar did in Grand Rapids, I’d like to see him on Pav’s wing opposite Abby, then leave Nyquist and Andersson on the third line with…hopefully Brunner.

That’s 3 scoring lines; first time in 5 years.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/05/13 at 12:07 PM ET

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As I said before I don’t hate it but… I’m still confused about where Alfie fits in linewise…

Posted by Primis on 07/05/13 at 12:00 PM ET

Lines change frequently even within a game.  They’ll find him some combinations to work with.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 07/05/13 at 12:08 PM ET

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Pav can carry Abby and Sammy, big guy and a right handed shot on either wing.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:03 PM ET

One, not both.  The thought of Sammy back out there makes me throw up a little, in my mouth.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 07/05/13 at 12:09 PM ET

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I’m with you Fluff, Tatar is going to be a stud and he’s a WORKER.  LOVE the guy, glad he won the MVP in the AHL playoffs for some validation of how good he really is.

I like that third line too but then where do you put Brunner?

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:10 PM ET

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Brunner would be on Andersson’s wing opposite Nyquist…but as the minutes tick by I don’t think Brunner is coming back.

Who would you put on Andersson’s wing, Miller?

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/05/13 at 12:13 PM ET

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I like that third line too but then where do you put Brunner?

Columbus?

Posted by lancer on 07/05/13 at 12:13 PM ET

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I like that third line too but then where do you put Brunner?

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:10 PM ET

You put him in Philadelphia with a 5-year contract, NMC.

Posted by SK77 on 07/05/13 at 12:14 PM ET

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I wouldn’t mind a Helm Tatar Tootoo like, talk about a forcheck and Tatar could score.  Toots isn’t a bad setup guy and creates space, can hold onto the puck down low, same with Helm, could work out fantastically for a goal scorer like Tatar.  That’d leave 3 lines with R hand shots, if they keep Eaves you could have 4. 

I really don’t think this can be overvalued.  Look at White with Lidas on D.  All because he was a R shot.  May not be good on their own, but paired with good players, especially if they’re already good players, it can be very difficult for opposition to defend against.

When we’re running 3 L’s or 5 L’s on the ice, the opposition seems to grind us to a hault pretty quick most of the time.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:15 PM ET

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I’m still confused about where Alfie fits in linewise…

Really?  I think he fits into the top six easily.

Datsyuk-Abdalkder-Tatar
Zetterberg-Alfie-Franzen (or switch Tatar and Franzen’s lines)
Andersson-Nyquist-? (Bert/Sammy?  Preferably Eaves/Miller)
Emmerton-Tootoo-Miller/Eaves

Posted by Garth on 07/05/13 at 12:24 PM ET

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Posted by Garth on 07/05/13 at 12:24 PM ET

I love Tatar’s spirit & game, but is he ready to handle the defensive responsibilities that come with the first or second line?

Posted by SK77 on 07/05/13 at 12:34 PM ET

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@Garth- No Helm?

Dats, Abs, Mule
Z, Alfie, Nyquist
Andersson, Tatar, Miller
Helm, Eaves, (Tootoo, Emmerton)

No idea what to do with two washed up oldies in Bert and Mike

Do we still try and sign a dman?

Posted by RhymeTimeWingsDings on 07/05/13 at 12:39 PM ET

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Like Hudler, SK?  He was a top 6 F and Babs loved him.  Never saw a lick of D out of him but once or twice.

Tatar is MUCH better, and you don’t get MVP of the Calder Playoffs not playing D.  Kid has earned his chops and plays a man’s game, a complete game.  He’s paid his dues.  He’s raised his game. Pumped to watch him play every game, give him a chance to show everyone why he should’ve been here last year.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:43 PM ET

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If the Weiss rumors are to be believed ...

Datsyuk – Zetterberg – Abdelkader
Weiss – Alfredsson – Franzen
Andersson – Nyquist – Tatar
Helm / Emmerton – Miller – Eaves / Bertuzzi / Sammy / Tootoo (Time to ship some forwards)

There are some good parts in that top 9 that Babcock could rearrange as needed.

Posted by SK77 on 07/05/13 at 12:44 PM ET

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This reminds me of the Larionov signing.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:47 PM ET

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Definitely would make our top 6 a lot more respectable adding Weiss AND Alfie.  Given how solid we are in the bottom 6, we could have 4 scoring lines potentially.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/05/13 at 12:48 PM ET

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Good point, HTO, regarding Hudler’s defensive ... skillset.

Tatar is a stud for sure, but wouldn’t it be even better for him to start on the 3rd line where he could be an absolute killer for the Wings? On a 3rd/AHL line that already has established great chemistry, Tatar would be able to do some real damage against the other team not having to match up against their best defensive pair and forwards.

Posted by SK77 on 07/05/13 at 12:51 PM ET

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I hope we can still keep Brunner. But the lack of a top 6 spot will probablypush him away, so he’ll be gone. And PLEASE get Grabovski over Weis. He’s just as good of a skater, better defensively and gold on the draw. They need to get Sammy cleared to buy him out,and pay someone to take Bert. Then trade Tootoo This is what I’d like to see.

Hank-Datsyuk-Abby
Franzen-Grabovski-Alfredsson
Nyquist-Andersson-Tatar
Miller-Helm-Eaves
Emmerton

I’d also take a shot on Rozsival if he comes cheap. And Trade Quincey.
Kronwall-Eriksson
Smith-Dekayser
Kindl-Roszival/Lashoff

PP1
Hank/Datsyuk/Alfie
Smith/Dekayser

PP2
Nyquist/Grabovski/Franzen
Kronwall/Kindl

Posted by mormerod19 on 07/05/13 at 01:40 PM ET

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Weird.  It’s almost like Holland made a signing after pursuing some options or something.

I’d rather have Alfredsson for 1 at 3.5 (5.5) than I would Cleary at 3 for 3, or Fil at 5 for 5, or VL at 4.5 for 5, or Brunner at 4 for 5.

This gives the team a little more veteran stability in the short term while not capping the ability of the kids to earn more and more important IT either in this season or in the ones to come.

See, this is what a smart GM looks like when he makes moves.  Ones that have lots of upside and little downside, ones that aren’t wildly transformative but are efficient.

Weiss wouldn’t be a bad add, though.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/05/13 at 02:08 PM ET

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Holland’s kind of deal for 35+ players.  Welcome to DET, Alfie.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 07/05/13 at 02:33 PM ET

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Ugh. I’d rather have Brunner.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 07/05/13 at 02:57 PM ET

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Ottawa got over Alfie quickly by trading for Bobby Ryan. Course it cost them a boatload.

which might give them the opportunity to go after Pavel Datsyuk’s close friend, Mikhail Grabovski.

He’s a friend with that clown? wow. Skilled guy but a total jerk on the ice from years I have watched him play for the Habs and Buds. Regner get this stuff from his parent company fox news and that count chocula guy, lol.

Z and Mule gotta be loving that Alfie coming to town. This guy is clutch when the pressure is really on.

Kenny shocking me with this signing a Weiss. Way to roll out of bed on July 5th this year man

tongue rolleye

Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 07/05/13 at 03:57 PM ET

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Welcome to HockeyStad, Alfie!

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 07/05/13 at 05:15 PM ET

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