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Chasing Zach Parise via the radio and Twitter as Red Wings fans wait for his, Suter’s decisions

Updated 4x at 12:36 PM: So we’ve gone from airplane watching to Tweets of radio interviews, NHL Home Ice’s Josh Rimer interviewed Zach Parise on Nextsportstar.com, right after NHL.com’s Dan Rosen posted the following…

Text from Parise: “Nothing will happen tonight.”

And here’s the play-by-play of the interview from the Washington Times’ Stephen Whyno...

Parise: “it’s very stressful. I understand no one wants to be dragging on” on http://nextsportstar.com
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Parise to @joshrimerhockey: “It’s a life changing decision. You work hard as a player to put yourself in a good ... http://sulia.com/c/hockey/f/4669f528-ca74-43fa-81ff-478886b7eb06/?source=twitter
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More from Parise: “I don’t feel comfortable saying who’s in and who’s out.” It’s a short list but he won’t say how many. @JoshRimerHockey
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Parise to @JoshRimerHockey on Suter: “We’ve talked. Ryan and I are friends. We’ve definitely talked throughout this thing.”
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Asked about Miami Heat comparison, Parise to @JoshRimerHockey: “I don’t like when anyone is drawing those comparisons to LeBron.”
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http://nextsportstar.com interview with @JoshRimerHockey, Parise admits connect w/ Wild b/c of dad. “That would be really cool.”

The Tennessean’s Josh Cooper...

According to @JoshRimerHockey Parise and Suter have been talking and they will talk tonight…
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That would be a bad sign for the #preds. I don’t think they are in on Parise at this juncture.

Comcast Sportsnet Chicago’s Tracey Myers...

Zach Parise tells @JoshRimerHockey he’s talked with Devils GM Lou Lamoriello “three or four times a day” during this process.
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Parise tells @JoshRimerHockey that “I would love to play on a team with a defesneman like Ryan Suter.”
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Parise to @JoshRimerHockey on July 4 plans: “Get a workout in and spend the afternoon on the pontoon boat.”

And the Minneapolis Star-Tribune’s Michael Russo:

No decision tonight from Zach Parise or Ryan Suter. But I can assure you, the #mnwild is still very much in this ballgame for both players
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I’ll be on with @joshrimerhockey on http://nextsportstar.com at 11:05 p.m. ET/10:05 CT. Apparently Josh gave Parise the better timeslot #mnwild
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Zach Parise said he’d spend the fourth on his pontoon. In about 2 days, my guess is he will buy a $12 million yacht

The Washington Times’ Whyno penned a blog entry about the interview:

Most of the NHL seems to be waiting on Zach Parise and Ryan Suter to make free agent decisions. They realize everyone’s watching.

“It’s very stressful. I understand no one wants to be dragging on,” Parise told Josh Rimer on “Night Cap” on nextsportstar.com Tuesday night. “Its a life changing decision. You work hard as a player to put yourself in a good situation to make decisions. I appreciate everyone’s patience, No. 1.”

Parise’s list has reportedly been narrowed to a few teams, but he wouldn’t reveal which teams. The Minnesota Wild, Detroit Red Wings, Pittsburgh Penguins and New Jersey Devils appeared to be the favorites, with the Chicago Blackhawks and Philadelphia Flyers in the mix.

“You entertain the offers in the teams that you’re interested in. … you say no to some teams that you’re not interested in,” Parise told Rimer. “I don’t feel comfortable saying who’s in and who’s out.”
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Parise and Suter might be right for each other. Comparisons have been made to the Miami Heat getting LeBron James and Chris Bosh together to play alongside Dwyane Wade. But when friends bring up the Heat in text messages, Parise bristles, even though he has a good relationship with Suter.

“We’ve talked. Ryan and I are friends. We’ve definitely talked throughout this thing,” Parise said. “I don’t like when anyone is drawing those comparisons to LeBron.”

Particularly if it’s the Red Wings, Parise and Suter could be an impressive tandem. The Wild, Penguins, Red Wings and Flyers have been linked with both stars.

“I would love to play on a team with a defenseman like Ryan Suter. Immediately you’ve got your top defenseman,” Parise said. “To get an opportunity to play with him would be great.”

And if you’re a Wings fan that’s cringing about the two landing elsewhere and the Wings’ alternatives shrinking, RedWingsFeed offers a jitter-worthy quip from Sport-Express’s Slava Malamud:

Surprising absolutely nobody, GM Sergei Fedorov tells @ru_sportexpress that CSKA is actively pursuing Semin. ‪#Caps

Update: And the chase and tea-leaf reading continues, from the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan..

Sensing Suter makes decision THURS-FRI; Parise, who knows…maybe we can enjoy July 4th?

Shall we receive a lovely update from Sir Josh Cooper about Ryan Suter? Oh why the hell not…

For the first time in two days Ryan Suter didn’t just sit around his farm in Madison, Wisconsin and mull his options. He had visitors. The Detroit Red Wings came to see him and the Minnesota Wild according to reports. The Predators weren’t expected to make another trip to Madison, though things could change.

Before today, the Predators were the only team that had face-time with Suter. Now he has some level of a personal connection with other teams.

By all accounts, the Predators haven’t been told they’re out of it. And the fact that Matt Carle remains unsigned is a positive for Nashville if Suter bolts. He remains a very solid Plan B.

But you have to wonder about his level of interest in Minnesota and Detroit. Minnesota is owned by former Predators owner Craig Leipold. Say what you want about how he left Nashville, but the guy has money — even if the Wild doesn’t have a winning tradition. The Red Wings can offer a history of success and money. Their core is aging, but that may not have an effect on Suter’s decision.

There’s also the Zach Parise factor. According to a report from Josh Rimer, the Devils star forward has said he and Suter are talking and indicated they would like to play together.

Maybe in the end, he sees that Nashville’s sizable offer is enough to help him return to a place he knows. When an agent goes on record and says it’s a big deal, it probably is competitive with what the Wings and the Wild are offering.

No matter what, my uneducated guess says we’ll have an answer in the next day. The information has been gathered, now it’s decision time.

Via RedWingsFeed, TSN apparently just read Helene St. James’ Suter story...

Unrestricted free agent defenceman Ryan Suter has reportedly been offered a 13-year, $90 million contract by the Detroit Red Wings.

A report in the Detroit Free Press says that Suter was offered $80 million by the Red Wings on Sunday, and the team has since increased its offer to the 27-year-old blueliner.

The newspaper says that Red Wings general manager Ken Holland met with Suter at the defenceman’s home in Madison, Wisconsin on Tuesday.

Suter is reportedly also being pursued by the Philadelphia Flyers and Minnesota Wild, in addition to his former team, the Nashville Predators.

His agent, Neil Sheehy, said this week that Suter is taking some time to consider his options.

And if you missed the plane-gate—which fans scooped the media on—the Macomb Daily’s Chuck Pleiness wants to keep you apprised of that situation as well:

On Tuesday, the Wings paid a visit to Suter in Madison, Wis., where he lives in the offseason on his farm.Detroit’s contingent included owner Mike Ilitch, general mananger Ken Holland and advisor Chris Chelios, who played college hockey at Wisconsin and is good friend with Suter’s uncle, Gary.

According to a source, the Wings have offered Suter a 12-year contract worth $90 million.

Reports started to circulate Tuesday afternoon that Ilitch’s private plane flew out of Detroit to Wisconsin. According to FlightAware.com, a Gulfstream plane licensed to Olympia Aviation LLC, left Detroit Metro Airport for Madison at 11:17 a.m. Tuesday. It arrived at Dane County Regional Airport in Madison at 12:08 p.m., departed at 3:30 p.m. and arrived back in Detroit at 4:19.

Ilitch and Chelios were seen leaving the private hangar in separate cars. Reporters were not permitted to get close to the hangar.

Messages were left with numerous people within the Wings’ organization and were not returned.

Neil Sheehy did not return and email or phone message left by The Macomb Daily, but he told Kevin Allen of USA Today that there would not be a decision made Tuesday.
“There’s no blueprint to this time of year,” Holland said in a phone interview Monday. “We have to sit and wait just like anyone else.”
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The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that the Minnesota Wild also sent representatives to make a pitch to Suter. Reporter Michael Russo said that owner Craig Leipold, general manager Chuck Fletcher and coach Mike Yeo were on the flight. Russo met the Wild at the airport in Minnesota but wrote that they would not comment on their meeting with Suter.

Russo also sent out a Tweet, “Best part of story is Leipold’s plane is presently taking Sheehy back to Intl falls. Hope #redwings pick up some of the cost smile.”

Update #2: Yes, Puck Daddy and Pro Hockey Talk are in on the news…

And here’s Ansar Khan’s 11 PM story on MLive:

The Detroit Red Wings made a personal pitch to free-agent defenseman Ryan Suter on Tuesday, and now they wait for his decision. Suter met with the Red Wings and, reportedly, the Minnesota Wild at his farm in Madison, Wis.

Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch, general manager Ken Holland and team advisor Chris Chelios boarded a corporate jet in the morning, spoke with Suter and his agent, Neil Sheehy, and returned to Detroit in the afternoon. The Red Wings offered Suter $90 million for 13 years.

The Nashville Predators, with whom Suter has spent his entire seven-year NHL career, and the Philadelphia Flyers also are confirmed to have made offers. Reports indicate the Pittsburgh Penguins also have shown interest.

Red Wings officials did not respond to messages seeking comment. A small media contingent that gathered at a private terminal at Metro Airport was turned away by security.
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The Red Wings have been targeting Suter for more than a year. The interest has been mutual, as Suter, during the All-Star weekend in Ottawa, inundated the Red Wings’ Pavel Datsyuk with questions about what it’s like to play in Detroit.

The Red Wings also have been using Chelios as a recruiter. Chelios has spoken frequently with Suter’s uncle, Gary. Chelios and Gary Suter were teammates for five seasons with the Chicago Blackhawks. Chelios and both Suters are Wisconsin alums.

The Red Wings typically do not travel to meet free agents. But there is some intense competition for the top two players, Suter and left wing Zach Parise, in a weak free-agent class.

The Red Wings desperately need to bolster their defense after the retirement of seven-time Norris Trophy winner Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart’s departure to San Jose. If they don’t land Suter, they might pursue a trade for Keith Yandle of Phoenix. The Red Wings do not appear to have high interest in Matt Carle (Philadelphia), the only other top-pair quality free-agent defenseman available. They like Carlo Colaiacovo (St. Louis), but he is not a top pair defenseman.

And Khan says that the Wings would go after Shane Doan as a “plan b” forward as they’re not Semin fans, but I can’t quote his whole article. Great work as usual.

Update #3: Greg “Puck Daddy” Wyshynski’s also reporting the $90 million offer, and while the Free Press almost inevitably tweaks their stories with more late-night info, here is their initial version of Helene St. James’ Wednesday story, from the Sacramento bee:

Red Wings general manager Ken Holland met Tuesday with coveted unrestricted free agent defenseman Ryan Suter as the team continues its courtship.

They’ve made an offer as high as $90 million over 13 years to Suter, 27, but are competing with teams including Philadelphia, Minnesota and Nashville. Suter has been mulling a handful of mega-million dollar contracts since free agency began at noon Sunday.

Suter’s agent, Neil Sheehy, said his client will take the time needed to make the right decision.

“For a young man who is looking to commit to 13 years, I find it strange that people expect him to make a decision within hours or days. Everything needs to be carefully considered,” Sheehy said.

The Wings also remain in the running for forward Zach Parise, though obtaining his services is less pressing. His agent, Wade Arnott, said Tuesday they’re “still in decision-making mode.”

The Wings are mulling numerous courses of action as they seek to engineer a more rugged identity. They’re keeping an eye on Shane Doan and remain interested in Rick Nash. For any other dominos to fall into place, though, they first need to find out if their wooing has won them Suter.


Update #4: Take this for what you will, via RedWingsFeed: here’s what the Minneapolis Star-Tribune’s Michael Russo says about Suter, Parise and Minnesota:

@HockeyyInsiderr trust me. It’s up to Suter. He’s waiting on Suter to decide and that’ll determine if Zach comes here or elsewhere

That “HockeyyInsiderr” is a big fat fake. It’s terrible that MSM’ers are quoting him because he’s a complete fraud.

Speaking of rumor-mongers, Comcast Sportsnet Philadelphia’s Tim Panaccio says that the Flyers have offered the most money to both players per a “source”...

And the Windsor Star’s Dave Waddell adds some repetition to the mix:

Detroit Red Wings’ owner Mike Ilitch and general manager Ken Holland flew to Madison, Wisconsin Tuesday to make their pitch in person to defenceman Ryan Suter. Suter lives on a farm just outside of the state capital.

The Wings reportedly have upped their offer to Suter by $10-million US with an offer of $90-million US over 13 years. That would work out to a cap hit of $6.9-million per season. It’s believed Detroit’s original offer was 12 years for $80-million US.

Ilitch’s private jet returned to Detroit Tuesday afternoon where it was met by reporters staking out Olympia Aviation’s hangar. However, the media was shooed away and the Wings were refusing comment on the trip.

Suter’s agent Neil Sheehy later released the news that a decision wasn’t expected until at least today.

“When a young man is asked to commit for 13 years, why is it considered extraordinary to take a few days to make a decision?” Sheehy wrote in an email. “A deal will happen when it happens.”

The Wings, who are also bidding on free-agent forward Zach Parise, are focusing their most intense efforts on Suter. With the retirement of defenceman Nick Lidstrom and the departure of Brad Stuart, the Wings have a couple of gaping holes to fill on their blue-line. Detroit currently has 23 players under contract on their NHL roster and has just under $17-million in cap space remaining.

 

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//sigh//

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 07/04/12 at 12:04 AM ET

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In other words, we still have no idea if the Wings are the favorites, they still could be totally shut out (I hope they called Carle in case), and they still can land both (which would set the Wings fans into delirium)—but they’re still in it, if one puts together the Wings talking to Suter and the possibility of both playing together. I could be wrong, and often am, but if I’m in Minnesota or Detroit, it would be pretty hard not to think the team couldn’t get both.

Carry on.,...

By the way, George, where are you financially, by the way, re: Traverse City?
We may be paying for your hospital room for sheer exhaustion at this point….

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 12:15 AM ET

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Plane-gate was the finest bit of journalism meets fan deep-digging I’ve ever seen on this site.  Way to go, George (and fans)!

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 07/04/12 at 12:20 AM ET

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Russo is really starting to piss me off (and hopefully Suter, too). Every time someone says something about either Suter or Parise…

“Oh but I did THIS.” or “Oh but the Wild are doing THIS.”


Holy fanboi, batman.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/04/12 at 12:21 AM ET

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Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 07/03/12 at 11:20 PM ET

I must admit, Hippy…I scooped it from WIIM. Someone posted the same link I did about the same time.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/04/12 at 12:23 AM ET

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</b>Hopefully this will do it.

Posted by Close the bold on 07/04/12 at 12:41 AM ET

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Okay, let’s try this.

Posted by Close the bold 2 on 07/04/12 at 12:42 AM ET

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Parise to @joshrimerhockey: “It’s a life changing decision. You work hard as a player to put yourself in a good situation to make decisions.

Oh, really? So it wasn’t all a big surprise to you that a bunch of teams would be making offers to you at noon on Sunday? Because the way you’re acting, you seem to have absolutely no idea where you’d like to play for the rest of your career. It’s almost as if you’ve never even heard of Detroit or Pittsburg or MSP.

If this is the way you “put yourself in a good situation to make decisions,” then you’re not even close to being as smart as some of us thought you were. And with that in mind, I can’t think of any reason why you’d be the kind of guy we’d want as a (future) leader on our team.

A report in the Detroit Free Press says that Suter was offered $80 million by the Red Wings on Sunday, and the team has since increased its offer to the 27-year-old blueliner.

In all honesty, I get that the Wings have to “compete” for players these days. But Suter is not the second coming of Nick Lidstrom. On Monday, I would have been more than happy to have seen Tick Tock tell Suter, “Look, bud, we love what you bring. But you need to decide that you really want to be a Red Wing by 5:00 tonight or we’re going to sign Garrison and Carle because we can get both of them for a few mil more than we’re offering you.”

I know both of these thoughts are over-simplifications of how things really work in the real world. But at some point, I think fans want to see their GM “grow a pair” and stop letting himself get yanked around by a couple of guys who can’t make a decision on their own.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/04/12 at 12:46 AM ET

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Just letting you guys know, tomorrow I’ll be on a work conference all day, totally out of the internetz.
So knowing my luck, there’s at least a 150% chance of them signing somewhere, and I wont know about it until very late

You guys have been warned! Be ready! 

=D

Posted by Zqto from Brazil on 07/04/12 at 12:49 AM ET

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I’ve already told Paul that I will be out for significant chunks of Thursday.

I have to go to Farmington Hills and back to pick up some medication (that’s about an hour round trip including the sitting in the doctor’s office waiting), go to the bank, pack and possibly go grocery shopping…and on Friday, I’ll be driving to Traverse City. My bet is on one of those two days :sigh:

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 12:54 AM ET

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wow, reading those makes me feel like the pens have 0% chance of signing Suter.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 07/04/12 at 01:03 AM ET

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These players really ought to signal their intentions soon. They know they have the entire league on the edge of their chairs, checking blogs a couple times an hour to see if their team picked up an asset.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 07/04/12 at 01:06 AM ET

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These players really ought to signal their intentions soon. They know they have the entire league on the edge of their chairs, checking blogs a couple times an hour to see if their team picked up an asset.

well for sure they both are going to be viewed as overpaid.  I can not believe the numbers that are being reported.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 07/04/12 at 01:09 AM ET

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I don’t know about you guys and gals, but after reading the way Russo, Josh Cooper, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review’s Josh Yohe and Rob Rossi and so many other media members work…

Suddenly, I’m feeling a little better about the “diggers’” blandness. At least they don’t revel in scandal and rumors. Jerk-jerk-jerk-jerk the chain, jerk-jerk-jerk-jerk the emotional chain, get more follows, get more hits, convince fans that so-and-so is TOTALLY coming to the team you follow, that they could NEVER go anywhere else.

Garrison already signed with Vancouver…

I get in trouble whenever I say this in my blog or on Twitter, but while I certainly understand that Suter and Parise have every right to thoroughly deliberate life-changing decisions, for *#$%@&’s sake, boys, there are 35 or so free agents, 6 teams and millions and millions of fans whose lives are going to change—some more than others, obviously—very, very quickly because your decision-making process is so very slow. Guys like Carle, Semin, etc. will have to decide very, very fast whose contingency plan they want to be, and I don’t think that’s necessarily fair to them. I don’t think any of this is fair to us fans, either, but that’s just my opinion.

I would have imagined that given both players were heading to market, their agents would have prepared them better to evaluate the marketplaces and pluses and minuses of the cities they were going to be fielding offers from. We knew by the draft that the Wild, Red Wings, Penguins, Flyers, Hurricanes, Blackhawks and Kings would be bidders, we knew that the Predators and Devils would push hard to retain their players, and when you’ve got that kind of lead-up, why would an agent sit there and wait? Why not help facilitate the decision-making process? Why not tell these gentlemen that deals can disappear?

So it is what it is, but it’s very frustrating. The only the Wings are waiting is because that reputation of being the team that can land elite players is on the line with Nick retiring, and so for the Wings, they can’t lose that status by pulling out of the derby before it’s over. But that makes it really *#$%@& hard to be a Wings fan right now.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 01:10 AM ET

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my theory:  Zach has a list that looks something like 1) Pit, 2) NJ, 3) maybe sorta Min.
Ryan has a list that looks like 1) Det, 2)Chi, 3) Nash.  But wouldn’t it be cool if we could play on the same team…....
How would you make it work.

Posted by akwingsfan from alaska on 07/04/12 at 01:18 AM ET

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yea, to be honest, i am surprised we have not heard of a few teams pulling their offers by now.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 07/04/12 at 01:19 AM ET

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The Red Wings do not appear to have high interest in Matt Carle (Philadelphia)

Like it…

And Khan says that the Wings would go after Shane Doan as a “plan b” forward as they’re not Semin fans

Like it…

They like Carlo Colaiacovo (St. Louis)

Huh?

Posted by godblender on 07/04/12 at 01:29 AM ET

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I can’t help but think that Carle and Semin are the plan B’s, but that’s my gut talking. It’s not a small gut, but it’s still a guess.

And I’ll say this: there’s always something to be said for a little disinformation.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 01:42 AM ET

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Michigan income tax rate (just changed) is 4.25%.
Detroit’s income tax rate is 2.50% for residents and 1.25% for non-residents.
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Minnesota has 3 different tax rates, the high income tax rate is 7.95%.
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Pennsylvania income tax rate is a flat 3.07 %, but Pittsburgh has a city income tax of 2%.
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New Jersey has a top earned income rate of 8.97%. (just changed for 2012).

This all has to be considered when you are talking in the 90 mil range.

Oh wait, I keep forgetting

It is not about the money

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 07/04/12 at 01:44 AM ET

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ok, if you want some sobering perspective to counter all of this, this story does not bring back good memories: Thoughts and prayers are needed for Brett MacLean

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399869

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:48 AM ET

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Pennsylvania income tax rate is a flat 3.07 %, but Pittsburgh has a city income tax of 2%

is that if you live in the city or earn money in the city?

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 07/04/12 at 01:51 AM ET

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Wonder how many FSD girls i could get to feed me grapes for $90,000,000. It just boggles the mind.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 07/04/12 at 01:51 AM ET

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For perspective, thoughts/prayers for Brian MacLean of Phoenix: bad reminder here.


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399869

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:57 AM ET

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The only the Wings are waiting is because that reputation of being the team that can land elite players is on the line with Nick retiring, and so for the Wings, they can’t lose that status by pulling out of the derby before it’s over.

That’s just nonsense. The way you establish yourself as a League leader is by taking control of situations. Not by sitting back and letting two players control the situation – especially if those two players aren’t the second coming of Lidstrom or Yzerman.

Sign Carle and trade for Ryan. Then call up Parise and Suter and wish them luck in Minnesota (or wherever they end up). I’m so far over these two prima donnas it isn’t even funny.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/04/12 at 01:59 AM ET

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Brett MacLean in trouble, reminds me of bad things. Perspective tonight as we debate free agents:


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399869

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:01 AM ET

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I seriously doubt tax rates will matter to these guys. They want to win more than just collecting a payday.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 07/04/12 at 02:13 AM ET

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If it was just a payday - there’s the KHL.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 07/04/12 at 02:14 AM ET

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I’m so far over these two prima donnas it isn’t even funny.

Posted by OlderThanChelios on 07/04/12 at 12:59 AM ET

You’re also just a little knee-jerk, eh?

I think the Wings should sign Carle or a stay-at-home D-man on top of Suter (regardless of what Parise does) anyway.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/04/12 at 02:14 AM ET

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trust me. It’s up to Suter. He’s waiting on Suter to decide and that’ll determine if Zach comes here or elsewhere

If that’s true (HUGE “IF”), seems like Parise wants a team, but would be willing to go to another is Suter signs there.

How to interpret that depends if you’re a half-full or half-empty person.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/04/12 at 02:17 AM ET

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Loving they’re looking at Doaner.  I know I’ve been all about Semin but I think they’d be able to do what they said they couldn’t do in one season if they can add him to the top 6 mix.  He’s an intense guy, shot in the arm guy I think would be good for the enjoyment of the players playing with him.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:25 AM ET

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Doan-Helm-Tootoo as a SHTF line.

Or a Doan-Z-Franzen EOTWAWKI line

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:40 AM ET

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I know these guys have numbers to look at, but they have teams in mind when they hit July 1st. 

None of us are in the position of making choices like this, but it goes back to my first statement, they have teams in mind on July 1st. 

The only way Suter goes back to Nashville (IMO) will be if he just doesn’t care about winning, because that team is not winning anything significant anytime soon, I don’t care what troll gets in here and starts saying how great their prospects are and the usual delusional crap. Novi, Northville, West Bloomfield, Plymouth all offer anything that he can find in Metro Nashville.. ( I know first hand, lived in both cities)

Pittsburgh’s and Nashville’s coverage and statements regarding this FA period are ridiculous.  Rob Rossi, Josh Cooper and the “insider” sites affiliated with these 2 teams are a joke… I will take a page from George’s book and be nice about it, could have said lots worse.  These guys must have written for the National Enquirer or US Weekly prior to their current gigs.

Posted by @TheJimPl9 from Nashville on 07/04/12 at 02:48 AM ET

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When putting together these innovative line combos - don’t forget William Tell. His wild shots will be replacing the midget pimp’s non-shots.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 07/04/12 at 02:49 AM ET

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This fiasco is now worse than LeBron’s “The Decision”  These guys have held the entire hockey world hostage.  Parise and Suter have gone from “aww shucks” to raving divas and prima donna’s.  So, 90MM gets you what 50 points per year from your top blueliner.  I bet B. Smith will get atleasst 30 next season.  If 90MM isn’t enough combined with Red Wings rep and stature- well fuq them both.

Since money is now the highest standard for players, owners will no longer value respect, loyalty etc.  Biz is never personal.  Suter, turns down 80MM.  Suter is no where near 80MM.

Sign Suter to his 90-100MM, but with NO trade stipulations.  I trade Suter to Nashville straight-up for Shea Weber.  I then trade, straight-up Weber to Columbus for Rick Nash.

Nash IS worth 90MM.

Posted by beelza on 07/04/12 at 03:23 AM ET

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Everyone - relax, roast some meats and hoist an ice-cold beer tomorrow, and celebrate. 

There are more things to life than hockey.

Friends, Family, and… Fireworks.

(yes, that was a jab at a certain goalie…)

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 07/04/12 at 03:41 AM ET

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Their core is aging, but that may not have an effect on Suter’s decision.

-Sir Josh Cooper

Fuch you, ass.  Jeebus, if there’s ever a ‘tard with head full of idiocy, it’s Cooper.  Good luck with the Poile lapdances, Josh.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 07/04/12 at 03:42 AM ET

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Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 07/04/12 at 01:49 AM ET

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Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 03:47 AM ET

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Does Nashville even have a core worth mentioning as such?

Posted by Seaner from San Jose on 07/04/12 at 03:48 AM ET

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Semin, ugh. Do I have to link the fight he got in and started slapping like a girl.
Hoping that turd goes to the KHL.
Nash and Bobby Ryan options but don’t see either teams GMs willing to trade in conference with us such a good goal scorer. The players and picks going the other way would have to be obscene.
Blackhawks still with only one free agent signing in Brookbank. Expecting them to sign Doan.

Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 07/04/12 at 07:11 AM ET

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From the perspective of a lifelong salesperson:
1) my biggest customer just gave me a face-to-face meeting AND
2) negotiated with me on my quote.
3) As of this moment, I don’t hear the Wild (nor anybody else) upped their offer. 
4) Therefore, I infer KH was given the opportunity to more-or-less matched the best bid.  (“last look”)

I wouldn’t be running out to spend the commission check yet, but these would be interpreted as very, very good signs that I am winning this deal.

Posted by vfsvfl on 07/04/12 at 08:03 AM ET

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