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Update: Henrik Zetterberg jabs Shanahan, who’s still talking about the Weber non-suspension

Updated 2x at 2:45 PM: Forget the Shanahan stuff…Here’s what Henrik Zetterberg had to say to the Windsor Star’s Bob Duff about the non-suspension on Shea Weber:

Not known for his outspoken comments, in his own quiet way, Detroit Red Wings forward Henrik Zetterberg called out NHL disciplinarian and former teammate Brendan Shanahan for the rash of on-ice incidents that have so far plagued the Stanley Cup playoffs. Zetterberg felt that had Shanahan thrown the book at Nashville Predators defenceman Shea Weber for slamming Zetterberg’s head into the glass during Game 1 of the series between the two teams, then perhaps the ensuing mayhem in other series might never have happened.

“It could be true,” Zetterberg said. “I think the league had a pretty good opportunity in Game 1 to set the bar, and I guess they did. There’s been a few incidents after that.”

Update #2: WXYZ’s Brad Galli caught Zetterberg’s comments on video, too:

What this post looked like first: Urgh. The Globe and Mail’s David Shoalts offers yet another interview with NHL disciplinarian Brendan Shanahan about his decision to not suspend Shea Weber for trying to break Red Wings forward Henrik Zetterberg’s face last Friday:

“In our view of the play and talking to the Detroit people, in our range of punishments from two minutes up to a possible multiple-game suspension, we were on the [punishment] where we thought we’d end up on it,” Shanahan said Tuesday.

While Shanahan considered a suspension, Zetterberg’s health and Weber’s history of no previous discipline played a large part in the decision. “What I said to Weber is that this doesn’t end here with just a fine, that this is part of your record for the rest of the playoffs,” Shanahan said.

Meaning, Weber’s lost the benefit of the doubt the next time he’s involved in a dubious foul and put himself in line for more serious penalties.

Shanahan says he’s not naive about the financial deterrent in the punishment, but that Weber has made himself a target. “For a lot of these guys, $2,500, the maximum amount, doesn’t mean anything. But what it means to them is that they enter the area of repeat offenders. So when I fine a guy, I say you’re now on a much shorter leash.” What does he say to those who think he missed the chance to send a message?

“I think the job is always going to subjective,” Shanahan said. “Regardless of who does it, the person is going to be accused of a million things. I don’t think people understand the depth of analysis and evaluation that we seek on each case. I get that. People don’t have the time to look at things as long and as deep as we do. But this for us is a 24-hour job. As our families can attest, we obsess about it. I’m not going to say we’re perfect. I do think we’re really qualified, and we’re really good.”

Continued, and thanks to the Globe and Mail’s James Mirtle for pointing this one out.

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This guy is terrible at his job and delusional.  The best thing he can do is just shut his stupid mouth and stop trying to justify what he clearly knows was a wrong decision.  Just STFU, let someone be seriously injured and then be mystified that the $2500 fine isn’t a deterrent to millionaires.

Posted by Garth on 04/17/12 at 01:11 PM ET

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When in a hole, the best advice you can take is - stop digging.

The NHL made a mistake, didn’t understand the public perception, opened up a Pandora’s box for the players and are now trying to justify it. Either admit you screwed up or stop talking about it,

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 04/17/12 at 01:15 PM ET

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Wasn’t Weber fined in October?

Faux you, Shanahan.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 04/17/12 at 01:16 PM ET

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Why did Weber not lose the benefit of the doubt when he boarded Hansen?  How is that not a history of previous discipline?

Posted by Stevis on 04/17/12 at 01:20 PM ET

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Yep, good thing you gave him a warning. That has certainly help spread the message around in the playoffs that you’re not messing around and that people should keep their noses clean…

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 04/17/12 at 01:23 PM ET

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Sssshhhhh…. you are now on double secret probation, just don’t tell anyone okay.  If it happens again, we’ll have to put you on triple secret probation.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 04/17/12 at 01:29 PM ET

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Question for you guys. If Shanahan suspends Weber for a game or two does all that other bullshit happen in the Ranger v OTT series or the Pit v Phi series? To me it was like “wow weber got away wit that? Lets see how far I can push it!”

Posted by Malik_is_alive on 04/17/12 at 01:33 PM ET

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Here’s what Henrik Zetterberg had to say

Nice to hear him (gently) calling out Shanahan, but it’s about f*cking time that someone in a position of power in the organization (either Holland or Illitch) comes out and gives the media an earful about the disgusting inaction of the league.  Obviously the guy who had his head smashed into the glass and the guys who play with him are pissed, but how about the GM or the owner man up and take the league to task for this.

Zetterberg is 100% right in saying that the agression in the playoffs this year is directly related to the inaction of the shitheads in charge of discipline, but the league doesn’t give a shit that the victim isn’t happy with the “punishment”.

Posted by Garth on 04/17/12 at 02:08 PM ET

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Question for you guys. If Shanahan suspends Weber for a game or two does all that other bullshit happen in the Ranger v OTT series or the Pit v Phi series? To me it was like “wow weber got away wit that? Lets see how far I can push it!”

I agree definitely with NYR/OTT.

and it was a contributing factor for PIT/PHI.

The lack of control from on ice officials contributed as well, but its hard for them to step up when they get that message from the front office.

as bad as the NHL was in contributing to this mess, There is nothing that would have contained the meltdown from the pens this weekend however.

Posted by jwad on 04/17/12 at 02:08 PM ET

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Zetterberg’s just a crybaby. He’s mad that his old buddy didn’t come down hard on Weber, and nor should he have. Fine is appropriate, but it wasn’t like Zetterberg was remotely close to being hurt on the play, especially wearing a visor. Boo hoo Henrik, can’t wait for Nashville to take your team out!

Posted by steve on 04/17/12 at 03:01 PM ET

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Posted by steve on 04/17/12 at 02:01 PM ET

Poor Steve, show us on this Vince Gill doll where that mean old Bertuzzi gave you the bad touch. It’s all right, it’s a natural response to lash out when you’re nervous or scared. I can’t imagine the torture you’ll be going through tonight when the series becomes tied up, or when after Nashville loses series how you cope with the frustration and hurt.

Posted by Puck from San Francisco, CA on 04/17/12 at 03:27 PM ET

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Zetterberg’s just a crybaby. He’s mad that his old buddy didn’t come down hard on Weber, and nor should he have. Fine is appropriate, but it wasn’t like Zetterberg was remotely close to being hurt on the play, especially wearing a visor. Boo hoo Henrik, can’t wait for Nashville to take your team out!

Posted by steve on 04/17/12 at 02:01 PM ET

Thanks for playin’, Troll.

When in a hole, the best advice you can take is - stop digging.
The NHL made a mistake, didn’t understand the public perception, opened up a Pandora’s box for the players and are now trying to justify it. Either admit you screwed up or stop talking about it,
Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 04/17/12 at 12:15 PM ET

This ^^^^^^^

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 04/17/12 at 03:28 PM ET

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In some regard I do feel the minimal pennance given by Webber did contribute to some of the jackassery going on around the playoffs.

However, ultimately it comes down to respect.  Much like Datsyuk said in his interview a few weeks ago…the players have to respect each other.  With free agency, the absolute lack of regard for the health of their fellow players could come back and bite you.

“Hey *#$%@&, good to see us sitting next to each other in the locker room now that we’re on the same team, hey remember last year when you elbowed me in the face?  Yeah…don’t leave your underwear unattended….”

Posted by 42jeff from The greater Howard City, MI metroplex on 04/17/12 at 03:32 PM ET

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If you don´t regularly read Down Goes Brown, I highly recommend today´s post.

Humorous look at a lot of this…

Posted by gusoline on 04/17/12 at 03:37 PM ET

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I see in today’s NY Times that Weber’s mother died of a seizure.  Anybody going to the game tonight up for making a sign:

WEBER’S MOM SEZ “SEIZE THE DAY”

Posted by Louis from California on 04/17/12 at 03:53 PM ET

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“Hey *#$%@&, good to see us sitting next to each other in the locker room now that we’re on the same team, hey remember last year when you elbowed me in the face?  Yeah…don’t leave your underwear unattended….”

Posted by 42jeff from Minot, North Dakota on 04/17/12 at 02:32 PM ET

Kinda reminds me of Donald Brashear exploding Blair Betts’ face with a BLATANT elbow to the face nowhere near the face.  What do the Rangers do?  Sign Brashear in the offseason.  Blair Betts was traded days later, and you can believe he went and demanded to be traded as soon as they signed Brashear.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 04/17/12 at 04:20 PM ET

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The problem began when the refs didn’t assess a match penalty at the time. For the refs to give only a 2-minute penalty set the table for Shanahan to do nothing. I’m sure the refs just did it because the game was over, but it was quite obviously an intent to injure and had it occurred in mid-game, it probably would’ve been a major penalty, at least.

Short version: the refs suck first, then shanny

Posted by awould on 04/17/12 at 04:27 PM ET

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Posted by awould on 04/17/12 at 03:27 PM ET

The only problem with is that the refs see the play in real time from one angle so it’s possible they missed the full extent of what Weber did.  Shanahan had the benefit of taking as much time as he needed to review the play in as fast of slow motion as he wanted from every angle available.

And he completely *#$%@& it up.  There are excuses for refs missing calls, there’s no excuse at all for the NHL’s cheif disciplinarian to miss the call.

I found this interesting:
The factors Shanahan cited in his ruling included the fact Smith returned to the game and “suffered no apparent injury,” and that Shaw has not been the subject of prior supplemental discipline from the league.

It’s the explanation for why Andrew Shaw received three games and it’s also the reason that Shea Weber received no suspension at all.

Posted by Garth on 04/17/12 at 04:43 PM ET

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Posted by Garth on 04/17/12 at 03:43 PM ET

All good points. Shanny sucks.

Posted by awould on 04/17/12 at 04:44 PM ET

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Guess what happens next?  The Pens become, ONCE AGAIN, the first team to have the proper punishment levied.  I love how the league sets a standard, then changes it again when the Pens do it.  Consistency.  Please.

Posted by Andy from FL on 04/17/12 at 06:01 PM ET

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George, to answer your question..
The violence in the other series happens one way or the other.
The violence is a byproduct of animosity between those teams.

Now, if the Wings-Preds series had become a nightmare of violence, you might have point. But that hasn’t happened.

Hockey violence is rarely premeditated. These teams clearly have animosity toward one another (Pitts-Phi and even NYR-Ott, though I’m not sure why)

This was going to happen whether Weber go a slap on the wrist or 3 games.

A lot of Wings fans have been trying to make a big deal over the lack of action against Weber, and still, a week later, some are still trying to assign way too much importance to it.

Wings fans need to step back. We won game 2. Had Weber been suspended a game, maybe the Preds would have won that game, the way the Ducks did game 5 when Pronger was out.

Posted by captain bob on 04/17/12 at 06:07 PM ET

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Those comments mean something entirely different if you’re not looking at his face. Haha.

Posted by Thom from Hockeytown on 04/17/12 at 06:19 PM ET

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Posted by Louis from California - sorry not funny in the least, actually shameful.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 04/17/12 at 06:35 PM ET

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Posted by Louis from California - sorry not funny in the least, actually shameful.
Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 04/17/12 at 05:35 PM ET

Ditto.  Poor taste and not classy.  Even if it’s not true, there’s no reason for it.

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 04/17/12 at 07:50 PM ET

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It’s actually funny, the article.  Read it, specifically some of Shanahan’s quotes.  This one jumped out at me:
I don’t think people understand the depth of analysis and evaluation that we seek on each case.

I personally haven’t ready any account of the situation in which anyone says that they spoke to Zetterberg, just to “Detroit’s people”, and the above quote comes a couple paragraphs after he says that he didn’t talk to Weber about it before they made their decision.

Boy, isn’t that a great depth of analysis and evaluation?  You don’t talk to the victim or the perpetrator before handing down a decision?

Posted by Garth on 04/17/12 at 07:57 PM ET

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I fully expect Zetterberg to be fined $2500 or be suspended for one game for this anti-league comment.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/17/12 at 08:35 PM ET

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redxblack, personnel only get finned for saying ‘mean’ things about Cindy or speaking I’ll of the penguins.

Posted by 11B3PF7 in MN on 04/17/12 at 10:57 PM ET

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