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Babcock On Nyquist

“Well, his job, and no different tonight if I were him, he’s still allowed to go back to the minors, is be so good, tonight you put so much pressure on the coach and the manger that they have to do something about it,” Babcock said. “That’s what he’s done. That’s the only thing you can do as a player. The best players in the end get to play, they decide who gets to play because they play well enough to make it happen and he’s done a good job.”

-Mike Babcock on Nyquist, via Chuck Pleiness of Red Wings Front were you can read more on this topic.

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The best players in the end get to play

If only that were the truth, Babs, if only.

Posted by Hootinani on 11/21/13 at 01:28 PM ET

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Consider the definition of “in the end” - that’s where he makes the statement true…

Doesn’t mean now or immediately, but in the long haul. Unfortunately, it’s too long a haul…

Posted by VitoLambruski on 11/21/13 at 01:38 PM ET

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The best players in the end get to play

If the Fans know that is a load of CRAP, I can only imagine what the players think.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 11/21/13 at 01:40 PM ET

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The best players in the end get to play

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Posted by Garth on 11/21/13 at 01:40 PM ET

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The best players in the end get to play

except on a CBA / cap strapped team with immovable penalizing over 35 contracts.

Posted by SnLO from the sub great-white north on 11/21/13 at 01:45 PM ET

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The best players in the end get to play

I thought it was the veterans who got playing time over the rookies.  What a crock.

Posted by Mex-eye-can-dy on 11/21/13 at 01:47 PM ET

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Does anybody out there honestly think Nyquist isn’t getting sent down after tonight no matter what he does?

Posted by Primis on 11/21/13 at 01:51 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 11/21/13 at 12:51 PM ET

I assume he’ll be going back to Grand Rapids if he gets less than three goals tonight.

Posted by Garth on 11/21/13 at 01:56 PM ET

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The best players in the end get to play, they decide who gets to play because they play well enough to make it happen and he’s done a good job.”

Babblespeak strikes again.  Unreal…

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 11/21/13 at 02:00 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 11/21/13 at 12:51 PM ET

I forget who, but someone posted Nyquist would play like 8 mins with no points, and mgt would go “see, he not ready” and send him back down. I completely believe this is what we will witness. Nyquist is going back to Grand Rapids tomorrow.

Posted by SnLO from the sub great-white north on 11/21/13 at 02:02 PM ET

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He’s skating on the 2nd line. He’s being given two of the Wings’ three healthy top-scoring forwards to skate with. He’s playing against a team with a -19 goal differential in 21 games. He’s up against a backup goalie.

And he’s been told to perform.

Throw out all the shit about how it’s everybody’s goddamn job to perform. Nyquist has his shot tonight.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/21/13 at 02:07 PM ET

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I actually think it might be someone else who gets sent down now or goes via trade. Nyquist might finally get his shot.

Posted by VitoLambruski on 11/21/13 at 02:29 PM ET

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Gee if the arrival of the savior known as Gus doesn’t produce tonight, what will everyone complain about next?

Posted by Down River Dan on 11/21/13 at 02:29 PM ET

perfection's avatar

most of these reactions are pretty hilarious.

except JJ’s which is offensively sensible wink

in any case, i just wanted to pop in somewhere to be excited that i just read an Ericsson extension is apparently close… that’s really the one big move Kenny needs to make. E is the only expiring contract that needs to be extended asap. everyone else has to earn a contract through the playoffs or move on for some kids. it’s about that time.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 11/21/13 at 02:41 PM ET

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Why is ward not playing?

Posted by topshelf14 from Detroit, MI on 11/21/13 at 02:41 PM ET

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Gee if the arrival of the savior known as Gus doesn’t produce tonight, what will everyone complain about next?

If the Wings start winning games? Probably still the usual scapegoats: Quincey, Smith, Cleary, Samuelsson.

If the Wings continue to lose? The above plus Babcock, Holland, Bettman.

You don’t need to be Nostradamus to prognosticate this shit.

Posted by pilgrim from the ice at the bottom of the world on 11/21/13 at 02:43 PM ET

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What is Babcock’s obsession with Cleary.
So if Nyquist doesn’t play well, he goes to minors. Cleary doesn’t play well, he gets promoted to play with Datsyuk.
Makes sense.

Posted by George0211 on 11/21/13 at 02:48 PM ET

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I have ever desired that Buckets be utilized only for what he’s qualified to do, which is to be veteran FOURTH LINE experience and PK, and that Quincey is tradable (and should be traded). Smith makes me nuts, but it’s not easy when you are so oft paired with Q.  I don’t know why they hold on to Q, and I vehemently oppose Babcocks logic of putting some stone hands puck raker on a top line. Perhaps moves like that betray sone agreement between Mike and Kenny about that ‘mans league’ notion. But once upon a time, the Wings promoted talented boys (Z and Pav) who wouldn’t have passed Kenny’s current criteria of ‘ripe’. Both lacked experience and bulk, but they had smarts and they learned on the job in the mans league quite nicely.

Posted by MoreShoot on 11/21/13 at 02:55 PM ET

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what are you talking about? both Z and Pav ripened in their home countries and joined the wings as they approached their mid 20’s just like most of our current kids. they then played fourth line minutes for a couple seasons with veterans to continue their growth process… sounds pretty familiar. tick tock

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 11/21/13 at 03:00 PM ET

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“Well, his job…is be so good, tonight you put so much pressure on the coach and the manger that they have to do something about it,” Babcock said.

Gee, no pressure, Gus. You get one fricking game to prove you’re indispensible. Fail and you’re headed up I-96 to GR until some time in January. So get out there and succeed. One game. One chance. Sounds fair to me.  tongue rolleye

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 11/21/13 at 03:01 PM ET

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Z was 22. Pav was 24. My point was that they went directly to the NHL with no previous experience with American style hockey in the minors.

Posted by MoreShoot on 11/21/13 at 03:07 PM ET

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But both Pav and Z were before the cap era.  The Wings were willing and able to gamble more because they could outspend their mistakes.  Now waiver-eligible players get waived because others must get paid (and count against the cap).

Posted by Savage Henry on 11/21/13 at 03:19 PM ET

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It’s all talk. I don’t know what more of you haven’t considered this - he can’t just come out and say “Yeah, we don’t want Samuelson, Nyquist basically has the job.”

They need something to say to the media.

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 11/21/13 at 03:26 PM ET

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Little Known Fact:  This is National “Torches and Pitchforks” week and we lead the pack.  Hooray for us!

Posted by calquake on 11/21/13 at 04:05 PM ET

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And Nyquist rippened in his home country, and then at Maine. 

I was the one who said he might get 8 minutes and be -2 and “See, he isn’t ready.”  But now that Babs is going to give him a legitimate chance to be effective, against a weak team with a 3rd string goalie, that won’t happen.  He’ll play 14-17 minutes and be at least +1.  He might still get sent down, though.

Grab the cheese, son.  Remember, “tie” goes to the veterans.  But “in the end” (of the season and in the playoffs), there are no more “ties.”

Posted by jkm2011 on 11/21/13 at 04:06 PM ET

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....in an entirely unrelated subject, but one that should make everyone as happy as gus coming up, is that the “prince of fielding” has left the building…..

...now, go get ‘em gus….take two slices…..

Posted by dingus from the salty great lake on 11/21/13 at 04:16 PM ET

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No one expects Nyquist to “save the team”, but Babcock is not being honest. I do not see how Sammy and Cleary have out performed anybody.

Let’s Go Red Wings!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 11/21/13 at 05:24 PM ET

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I don’t think Nyquist is the only one who needs to perform tonight. Jus sayin.

Posted by howeandhowe on 11/21/13 at 06:16 PM ET

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My favorite part of these sorts of stories is how people automatically assign a dishonest, nefarious intent to public statements people make just because that person holds a different opinion than theirs.

Babcock thinks player x is better than player y, and I think player y is better than player x… and then he has the gall to say the best players play?  Obviously he’s lying.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 11/21/13 at 07:29 PM ET

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I don’t know if the players have tuned Babcock out, but I have

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 11/21/13 at 08:00 PM ET

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My favorite part of these sorts of stories is how people automatically assign a dishonest, nefarious intent to public statements people make just because that person holds a different opinion than theirs.

Defensive?

Posted by howeandhowe on 11/22/13 at 02:48 PM ET

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