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Articles from practice II: ‘The process’ isn’t going away any time soon.

The Free Press's Helene St. James penned an article from the Red Wings' practice, and all I can say is this: if you were expecting the Red Wings to pitch a different company line after dropping 9 of 10 games, prepare to be disappointed.

With the Wings set to host a team that's won 8 out of their past 10 games, with Wing-killer Tuukka Rask in the net, Detroit isn't going to make any substantial changes to their lineup (save demoting Tyler Bertuzzi), nor their outlook:

“That’s one of the things we talked about this morning, when you are doing the right things and still losing, it’s easy to try to do something different,” veteran forward Frans Nielsen said Tuesday. “But we have to try and remember that we’ve been creating a lot of scoring chances and playing some good hockey lately. So try not to get frustrated.

“We have to keep believing in what we are doing. We are playing good enough to get a win, so we just have to keep digging in and playing the same way. We can’t get frustrated about it. We can’t start cheating or playing a different way.”

Coach Jeff Blashill echoed at practice what he’d said after Monday’s 2-1 overtime loss to Florida.

“One of the hardest things in life to do is to trust the process when you are not getting results,” he said. “In any facet of life. A mistake people make is they go away from the process. They panic too early and they don’t stay with it. You have to trust the process.

“We out-chanced them before the goal went in 19-6 last night. We’ve out-chanced our opponents 49-34 over the last three games, and the worst of that was the Winnipeg game. Being frustrated doesn’t help you. If we stay with it, I believe we will get the results over the long term.”

St. James continues at length, and she posted a video of comments made by Nielsen and Blashill:

Update: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan heard similar notes sounded by the Wings and their coach:

“We have one point to show for it (an overtime loss Monday to Florida),” Blashill said. “That’s not good enough. We get that. Are you frustrated? Sure you’re frustrated. But that doesn’t help you. You have to understand if you keep playing that way and keep trusting the process, we know the guys getting scoring chances have scored in this league, and we believe they’ll score again. So stay with it. If we don’t stay with it, we’ll cost ourselves. If we stay with it, we’ll get the results we want over the long term.”

Blashill is confident this roster is sticking with the message.

“The one thing I believe in is the group’s character for sure,” Blashill said. “It has separated this organization for a long time and it’ll allow us to stay with it, because of the character we have.”

Also:

The Red Wings are now 0-5 in overtime, with four of those losses coming during this 10-game slide. The lack of success in overtime and on the power play (two goals in its last 22 chances) are prime culprits in the losing.

“When you lose every overtime game or shootout, you put yourself in a tougher spot,” said Blashill, who added, in terms of the 1-5-4 record “you have to flip some of those fours (overtime losses). If you flip a few of those fours, if you flip two of them, so we’d end up 3-5-2; it’s fine, it’s not good enough, but that’s the ebb and flow of the season.”

Both specialty teams have struggled, compared to earlier this season, but the power play is vital to producing much needed offense.

“We haven’t had the same production from our special teams that we had had, and that matters,” Blashill said. “I said at the beginning of the year we’d need elite specialty teams to be a playoff team and certainly in the last five or six games, from a production standpoint, it hasn’t been elite or good enough.”

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duhduhduh's avatar

#Fallin4Dahlin

#Gettheblues4Hughes

#CatchACough4Svechnikov

Let the process roll.

Posted by duhduhduh on 12/12/17 at 04:27 PM ET

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#Gettheblues4Hughes

Speaking of Hughes, I caught Michigan’s 2nd game of the year. Talented offensively: yes. Defensively: meh. I think his biggest issue was decision making - and that could be due to the speed of the game and transition to college.

Posted by ilovehomers on 12/12/17 at 04:38 PM ET

duhduhduh's avatar

I think his biggest issue was decision making - and that could be due to the speed of the game and transition to college.

Yeah.  Check back in with him in January.  He’s got a good defensive minded coach to help him out.  He’ll go top 5 in 2018.  His little brother is a center and projects perhaps to 1st overall in 2019.  Michigan is working hard to recruit him to play with his brother. Having Jack and Quinn Hughes on the same team would be delightful.  Getting either in your pro draft would be a big win.

Posted by duhduhduh on 12/12/17 at 04:45 PM ET

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If we stay with it, I believe we will get the results over the long term.

Okay, under normal circumstances where you’ve just hit a rough patch, I would not have a problem accepting that statement.

But the Wings are 1-5-4 in their past 10, running 0.458 for the season, and just lost in overtime to a team tied in points with us in the bottom of the league.  Just from looking at the standings, almost every team the Wings are going to play for the rest of the season is better than they are.  How does continuing with more of the same that is generating losing and low confidence help players turn around, again?

String together a winning record for the remaining 8 games in December, and then I’ll take “process” more seriously.  If not, please for all that is holy, try something else.  Bag skates, tantric yoga, herbal tea, emotional support puppies, anything really…

Posted by MikeMac on 12/12/17 at 04:47 PM ET

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Hey Blash. I totally agree that we shouldn’t panic when you aren’t always rewarded with wins. Makes sense. Keep doing what you’re doing. Stick to the process.

One tiny flaw in your logic…ready for it…your process has never worked. Never. Makes zero sense. So you are actively shunning any attempt to change the way we play and promoting a process that has proven to fail, over and over again.

It’s like asking a toddler to pick up legos and put them in a bucket…but the bucket has a big hole in the bottom. And instead of adjust your strategy, you are yelling at the child to keep following your orders.

Posted by fatsavage on 12/12/17 at 04:52 PM ET

Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit's avatar

I’ve been using the same “process” to win the Powerball for years. shut eye  (heavy sarcasm)

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 12/12/17 at 04:58 PM ET

ilovehomers's avatar

The process worked for the 76ers.

Posted by ilovehomers on 12/12/17 at 05:01 PM ET

bigdee89's avatar

At first I was saying fire Blashill and this is ridiculous how he is still the coach.  But now I’m thinking we need to keep this idiot so we can get a top 3 pick and actually start the rebuild.  Picking 9-15 is ok but they won’t usually be superstars.

We have some nice young players but we desperately need some super star power.

So let’s be happy Blashill is driving this team into the ground.  Otherwise we would be in for more years of mediocre teams maybe squeaking into the playoffs to get swept and/or signing more ludicrous veteran contracts.

Posted by bigdee89 from The Great White North Eh? on 12/12/17 at 06:12 PM ET

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Blashill, you should look in the mirror to see if you can find some other processes. Maybe have players focus on aspects of the game after they have made a ton of mistakes. Who needs strategy when the answer is skill, skill and more skill. We all know the answer to a bad team is, more skill.

Still, it’s time to give up, trade away players for picks during the time of year when players are most likely only traded for players.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 12/12/17 at 06:18 PM ET

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Got a problem with the process, on defense it continually leaves the side open opposite the puck side. Take Panther’s first goal by Trochuk, he was standing alone behind Glendening, while Glendening was facing the puck. This happens every game to all the line and most all players. Offensively, last game, rushing the was great, chances were there, couldn’t convert, in too close at times. Prior to this game, they constantly wasted time doing their perimeter pass puck movement with poor scoring chances.

Posted by stateofmifan on 12/12/17 at 07:00 PM ET

WingedRider's avatar

If we stay with it, I believe we will get the results over the long term.

Getting a head of yourself Blash, use “I"instead of “we” until further notice!!


The long term will be after you, KH and horrible contracts are LONG gone.

He regurgitates the stupidest words, phrases…Process was the first of the Barf phrases, I think??

God Damn it works!!!  I don’t know the 1st from the middle…confusion might F up the process.??

Seriously, Blash has ZERO % of succeeding as a NHL Coach

Where is Big Mouth HSJ getting this information??

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 12/12/17 at 07:00 PM ET

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String together a winning record for the remaining 8 games in December, and then I’ll take “process” more seriously.

I wouldn’t wait if I were you. The slide continues. sick

Posted by bigfrog on 12/12/17 at 07:20 PM ET

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The problem is the same as it has been for years. The compete level is just not there on any sort of a consistent basis. The “process” and line combinations and etc mean nothing when few if any players are giving 110%. Coach needs to bench a few players here and there when they aren’t giving it their all ala Scotty Bowman to send a message and work some of our youngsters into the lineup to show what they got, fight for a spot on the team, and keep the regulars on their toes. Seems simple. Hit me up when the head coach job opens up, Kenny.

Posted by Howdy Gordie on 12/12/17 at 09:07 PM ET

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I thought is was telling that Sheahan made a comment about how much intensity the Penguins put into their practices and then I read about all the optional practices the Wings offer their guys.

There was a time when this was, bar none, the hardest working team in the league. Now, it appears that a country club atmosphere has set in and the figure all they need to do is step on the ice with the uniform on and everything will work out.

This team is no longer a team and no longer playing for themselves or their coach, a situation made worse by the coach having no clue as t how to play a simple structure that works and no control over the old guard…..so he picks on the young guys.

Posted by NewfieWing on 12/12/17 at 09:20 PM ET

ilovehomers's avatar

Coach needs to bench a few players

But it better not be a young player like Mantha or AA or KK will implode.

Posted by ilovehomers on 12/12/17 at 09:38 PM ET

PierreC's avatar

Can anyone explain to me what is the process ??

I need to know so that i can understand what’s going on…

Posted by PierreC from Montreal, Canada on 12/12/17 at 10:52 PM ET

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We need a coach from outside.

Todd Nelson is probably the next in line, knowing how things goes with this organization.

But we need a fresh start, new system, new mentality…

Posted by PierreC from Montreal, Canada on 12/12/17 at 10:55 PM ET

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Wings definitely need a new coach from outside but who is available? Have my reservations about Sutter and definitely not Keenan….so, anybody good available and willing to not kowtow to the vets?

 

Posted by NewfieWing on 12/12/17 at 11:36 PM ET

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The process works!  Ask the 76ers! Lose a lot and get great young players.

Posted by Pfidy on 12/13/17 at 12:42 AM ET

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Can anyone explain to me what is the process ??

 

You might get some very interesting answers, I am not biting on that.

I would expect on any given day, Blash will have a new description, he is a Looney Tune so I really don’t care.

Good Question though!!!

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 12/13/17 at 12:52 AM ET

Tripwire32's avatar

you have to trust the process.

So maybe the process is good, but the players…not so much?

Posted by Tripwire32 from Kay He Mar Heart on 12/13/17 at 10:21 AM ET

Colin's avatar

I’m trusting the process all the way to the top 3… of the DRAFT!!!

#Fahlin4Dahlin

Trade Green
Trade a goalie
Trade Ericsson (I bet someone would be dumb enough)
Trade Daley (if they’ll take him)
Trade anyone not named AA, Larkin, or Mantha

Retain salary if necessary on these players. This team doesn’t deserve to spend to the cap anyway and all these contracts have 2 years or less remaining after this season so it doesn’t matter.

Rotate Hicketts and Hronek in. Tank.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 12/13/17 at 11:05 AM ET

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Trade Green
Trade a goalie
Trade Ericsson (I bet someone would be dumb enough)
Trade Daley (if they’ll take him)
Trade anyone not named AA, Larkin, or Mantha

Retain salary if necessary on these players. This team doesn’t deserve to spend to the cap anyway and all these contracts have 2 years or less remaining after this season so it doesn’t matter.

Rotate Hicketts and Hronek in. Tank.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland’s new yacht, “Incompetence” on 12/13/17 at 10:05 AM ET

I like it. One problem.

Green - NTC
Howard - NTC
Mrazek - never plays
Ericsson - NTC
Daley - NTC

It’s time for Kenny to admit that this isn’t just 5 bad periods…we’re a little more than 2% away…so he should approach every single one of these guys and start getting a sense of who is willing to waive their NTCs, when, where, etc…Give Ottawa credit for already doing this, including Karlsson. They just made it a standard request from top to bottom. We want every player that has some form of modified NTC to submit their list of teams so that we can start discussions now. But maybe Kenny doesn’t want to stress anyone out with Christmas approaching. Let’s just deal with this stuff later. Besides, maybe we can go on a run?

Posted by fatsavage on 12/13/17 at 11:28 AM ET

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Posted by fatsavage on 12/13/17 at 10:28 AM ET

All things can be waived, friendo.

I would also add Nyquist to my list of players.

The idea we’re even 10% away is laughable at this point. Same with the idea of going on a run. That run would have to extend into February.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 12/13/17 at 12:58 PM ET

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