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An open letter to Ken Holland re: re-signing Kyle Quincey and Daniel Cleary

Updated 3x at 9:10 PM:

Dear Ken Holland,

On behalf of my fellow Wings fans, we've had it. We are fed up, we are fed up with you, and we are angry. Why?

Because the concept of loyalty to players and alumni has, in our eyes, clouded the Red Wings management's judgment.

Spending the kind of money that a statistically superior, younger and right-shooting defenseman in Anton Stralman got from the Tampa Bay Lightning to re-sign Kyle Quincey was bad enough to "compromise" with a "known quantity." But the Daniel Cleary signing (a one-way deal, no less)?

It's ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous.

I don't care about the fact that Cleary's sacrificed, on behalf of the team, feeling in parts of his mouth, his knees, his groin and so many other parts of his body that will not function like an average human being's after he is done playing. I don't care about the fact that, if the Free Press's Helene St. James is to be believed, Cleary left $6 million worth of Philadelphia Flyers money "on the table." I don't care about the fact that he's a "good guy in the room."

I care about the fact that Riley Sheahan, Tomas Tatar, Luke Glendening, and the player most likely to end up in Grand Rapids should Mr. $1.5 million one-way contract and $1 million in bonuses make the team--Tomas Jurco--TOOK CLEARY'S JOB, and those of Mikael Samuelsson, Jordin Tootoo, Todd Bertuzzi and Cory Emmerton,  last year based upon their play on the ice in comparison to Cleary's when he was healthy. Those players earned their spots on the team, and they may end up spending time in the press box for Cleary's sake.

Cleary's now your 14th forward. If you bring Daniel Alfredsson back, your team will have 15 forwards, and as such...

Tomas Jurco may be certain to be "Nyquist'd" after you take care of re-signing players who actually contributed to the team in the aforementioned Tatar and Danny DeKeyser due to cap issues--and if you recall, Mr. Holland, a certain Gustav Nyquist, who ended up leading the team in goal-scoring, was sent to Grand Rapids despite earning a spot on the team in training camp, for Daniel Cleary's sake--and because the still-waiver-exempt Jurco can, like Nyquist, be demoted without clearing waivers.

Landon Ferraro and Mitchell Callahan may very well have no chance whatsoever to make the team now, and you may lose Ferraro, a speedy 3rd or 4th-line winger with offensive upside, and Callahan, a heart-and-soul player who's gritty and superb defensively--because you'll probably have to waive them to make sure that Daniel Cleary has a spot on the opening-night roster.

[quick edit: OH YEAH AND WHAT THE FACK ABOUT THAT ANTHONY MANTHA KID? GRAND RAPIDS IT IS, WOO! /end edit]

Red Wings fans can understand why you're hoping to hold open some money for Daniel Alfredsson. Despite his status as a 41-year-old who had some chronic groin and back issues last year, he co-led the team in scoring while being a "good guy in the room," a member of the leadership group and a leader on the ice and on the bench. Alfredsson had 18 goals, 31 assists and 49 points in 68 games played.

Cleary played in 52 games. He registered 4 goals, 4 assists, 8 points, and a team-second-worst -11.

Over the past two seasons and 100 regular-season games, Cleary has posted a total of 23 points and finished at -17.

Last season, Riley Sheahan, a rookie, had 9 goals, 15 assists and 24 points in 42 games, finishing a +8 in his rookie season.

Last season, Tomas Tatar, who began the season watching Cleary, Samuelsson, Tootoo, Emmerton and Bertuzzi play, posted 19 goals, 20 assists and 39 points in 73 games, finishing at +12 in his first full season with the team. That's pretty dang close to the 20-goal threshold that you say is so very important in terms of finding players who can score at an essential level.

Last season, Tomas Jurco had 8 goals, 7 assists and 15 points in 36 games, finishing even in his rookie season.

Those three players had an incredibly difficult playoff run against Boston, but the Red Wings wouldn't have made the playoffs without the contributions of "Riley and the Slovaks."

Last season, Luke Glendening, whose waiver-exemption your coach chose to exhaust, had 1 goal, 6 assists and 7 points in 56 games, finishing at -8 as a rookie. Glendening took 52 games to score his first goal, but he nearly out-produced Cleary, and he was far more valuable to the team.

Three years ago, you told your "special assistant," Kris Draper, that he would have to accept a two-way contract and essentially try out for the team if he wanted to continue playing hockey for the Detroit Red Wings, after Draper had given the team 1,137 games of NHL service.

Four years ago, you told Kirk Maltby, who played 908 games for your team, the same circumstances would apply.

Why is Cleary a special case? Why couldn't he be told to earn spot on the team like Ferraro, Callahan, Jurco, or Maltby or Draper before him?

This summer, after having struck out on Dan Boyle, Matt Niskanen, Stralman and Tom Gilbert, you've given Kyle Quincey 2 years and $8.5 million...

And this summer, you've given what will be a total of $2.5 million to Daniel Cleary for loyalty's sake when there are 28 free agent forwards available who posted more than Cleary's 8 points--excluding Todd Bertuzzi and Daniel Alfredsson, who make it a total of 30 available players who out-scored Cleary.

Cleary's given his heart and soul to the team, and he's sacrificed his body repeatedly, but Cleary's simply not been a useful player over the past two seasons. He hasn't earned his spot on the team based upon his play on the ice.

But he's been given a contract based upon money the Philadelphia Flyers may or may not have offered him--if you are not aware, there are several reports that the Flyers were in fact only willing to give Cleary a pro try-out contract, and nothing more, and those reports came from journalists who know much more about the inner workings of the Flyers than anyone in Detroit does--and he will probably be given a spot on the roster by your coach because "he's a good team guy."

Probably over Tomas Jurco, Luke Glendening, Landon Ferraro or Mitchell Callahan, even if they've earned their spots on the team.

How does this signing send any sort of message to the team's young players that you are in fact committed to the "youth movement" or "the kids?"

Does it  instead send a message that, on a team where we're supposed to believe that the best players earn playing time, that some players are in fact more equal than others, even if they haven't done anything to earn their spot?

How does this signing send any sort of message to the team's fans that you are in fact concerned with availing yourself of the best personnel available instead of playing favorites?

How does this signings end any sort of message to the rest of the league that the Detroit Red Wings want to avail themselves of the best personnel available to them, or that the team is committed to recruiting the best players outside of Detroit to come here and play for the coach that at least one player agent says no one wants to play for because he's, "An *#$%@& behind the bench"?

What happens if Daniel Cleary doesn't make the team? What happens if your line about not wanting to sign players that you have to get rid of in November turns out to be true for Cleary, and you have to send him to Grand Rapids. Will you send him to Grand Rapids? Will you understand that you'll have to still carry $575,000 of Cleary's contract on your cap figure?

What will that money do to the team's roster flexibility in terms of being able to add what whoever the "team sources" are have insisted is an absolutely essential player in a top-four defenseman with strong scoring abilities?

Daniel Cleary did nothing this past season to earn a spot on the 2014-2015 Red Wings roster, but you've given him a contract that ensures you're going to be paying him for two more years.

You've told MLive's Ansar Khan that things are different this time around (and the quotes are the same in Fox Sports Detroit's report)...

"He's worked hard in the gym, done things to get himself back," general manager Ken Holland said. "We're hoping Dan Cleary can bounce back. He'll be good insurance. He'll have to beat people out to be in the lineup."

The Red Wings now have 14 forwards, including Tomas Jurco, the only one of the group who is exempt from waivers and can be assigned to the Grand Rapids Griffins.

Holland said they will start the season with 14 forwards. They will decide before training camp whether to re-sign Daniel Alfredsson. Both sides are waiting to see how the 41-year-old's troublesome back holds up later this summer.

Cleary, 35, had just four goals and eight points in 52 games last season, after signing a one-year, $1.75 million contract on the eve of training camp. He didn't play after Jan. 28 due to a knee issue.

When Cleary signed his previous deal in September, Holland promised him he'd be taken care of at the end of the season. Holland is keeping his word.

"Unfortunately he had a tough year," Holland said. "He's a guy the coaching staff likes, his teammates like. He's a leader in the room. He can play left wing/right wing, can go on the power play."

But how are we supposed to believe you? Especially after we heard Mike Babcock insist that veterans win roster battles over youngsters--namely Tomas Tatar, Gustav Nyquist, Riley Sheahan, Tomas Jurco and Luke Glendening--"by default" this past season?

You and your coach have said one thing, but your management group has acted in a completely different manner.

With Alexey Marchenko, Ryan Sproul, Xavier Ouellet and Mattias Backman supposedly nearly ready to play in the NHL, you chose to respond to your inability to sign a top-four, right-shooting defenseman by bringing back a left-shooting, 4/5/6 defensive defenseman because you're familiar with him.

Now, with four youngsters having "stolen jobs" over the past season and Landon Ferraro and Mitchell Callahan out of waiver options this upcoming season, you've given a one-way contract and a two-year pay-out to player who didn't contribute to the cause last season, and wasn't particularly useful the season before.

How have things really changed if you keep going back to the "take care of alumni" well?

How have things really changed if "the youth movement" keeps on finding that, every July, the team either retains or seeks out older alumni for the sake of familiarity and "loyalty" (see also: Mikael Samuelsson, Todd Bertuzzi, Jason Williams)?

How can you explain the fact that the team's words and off-season actions aren't consistent?

How can you justify the abandonment of, "The kids are our future" philosophy for, "It's a men's league and the kids aren't the answer" every damn summer?

When your team may very well have an "image problem" in terms of attracting elite talent due to the outside perception of Metro Detroit, the outside perception of your rink (especially the visitors' facilities), the outside perception of your team's nearness to being within any sort of reasonable probability of winning a round in the Eastern Conference and Atlantic Division, or the outside perception of that "*#$%@& behind the bench?"

How has any of what you've done since July 1st helped your team's cause?

And why are we supposed to believe anything you tell us any more?

Maybe completely losing credibility with the fans who pay so much money to attend games, purchase team merchandise and follow your organization is more important than you perceive it to be.

Maybe we deserve some answers, some honest ones, and some answers that we can believe in, and at this point, we're not sure that you're willing to afford us an explanation as to why you've made moves that have done nothing less than infuriate your paying fans.

I wish I could have talked to you at the summer development camp, but you ducked out, and I was told that I could speak to you in September.

Between now and then, don't be too surprised if you lose some season ticket-holders and lose some fans (and I mean that very sincerely) based upon your free agency track record and your "loyalty" to players who simply cannot be afforded preferential treatment in the "cap era."

At least Quincey was decent during the second half. Cleary was injured and when he wasn't, he wasn't very good, but here he is, and Wings fans don't understand why you'd do something they believe is utterly nonsensical.

It's ridiculous. And you should expect to be ridiculed, and your competency as a general manager questioned, as a result.

Update: Submitted for your inspection...

Update #2: From St. James:

When Daniel Cleary left $6 million on the table last fall in Philadelphia to return to Detroit, there was an agreement made that it would be ameliorated by the Red Wings.

That led to the contract that was announced Thursday, when the Red Wings signed Cleary to a one-year deal worth $1.5 million with another $1 million in bonuses. Cleary told the Detroit Free Press, "I"m happy for the opportunity to come back and play. I'm putting in a lot of effort to get ready and have a bounce-back year."

General manager Ken Holland said the decision, "has more to do with last year. My program has been one of loyalty, and there's good things and bad things that go with that. Way more good, in my opinion. I reached out to a lot of people before signing Dan, and he's very popular in our organization and with our on-ice leaders."

On the surface, it seems incongruent for a team that, with Tomas Tatar and Daniel Alfredsson still to be signed, already had a dozen forwards under NHL contracts. Cleary, 35, had eight points in 52 games last season, and had become a healthy scratch by late January.

The answer lies in loyalty, and in untangling a web of agreements from last September. After rejecting contract offers from the Red Wings - his team since 2005 - in June of 2013, Cleary verbally agreed to a three-year, $8.25 million deal with the Philadelphia Flyers. A day before training camp, Cleary flew to Traverse City and met at the airport with Holland and coach Mike Babcock.

Babcock pushed hard for Cleary's return, leading to a one-year deal at $1.75 million. Along with that came with a verbal agreement the Wings would take care of Cleary this summer.

"He had a tough year, but we're hoping he's going to bounce back," Holland said. "We've had luck with players with heart and determination." Holland said that if Cleary doesn't have a big camp, "he won't be in the lineup."

Update #3: But wait, there's more, from the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness:

"He’s a leader,” Wings general manager Ken Holland said. “We’re hoping he can bounce back. He’ll be good insurance, but he’s going to have to beat people out to be in the lineup.”

Some of Cleary’s struggles were due to injuries.

He tried to return from a knee injury he suffered before the Olympic break, but a bad reaction to an injection caused inflammation.

“He had a tough year last season,” Holland said. “But he’s a guy the coaching staff likes and his teammates like. He’s a leader in the room. He can play left or right wing and can go on the power play.

“He’s worked really hard in the gym, doing things to get himself back,” Holland continued. “With this one-year deal we’re giving him an opportunity.”

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Which direction have we gone?

That’s a key question and my answer is there is no direction. You either have win now mentality while Dats and Z can walk or you allow youth to grow with the hope to win in 3-4 years.

If you are in win now mentality you either trade your youth for star players who can help you win now (I want to stress star players, not Mike Green type).
If you want to win in 5 years, you develop youth and even considering trading Dats and Z.

What KH is doing is nether. He is stuck at neutral and happy to keep the playoff streak going without a legitimate chance to win the cup. In order to accomplish that, he signs and resigns mediocre redundant players. And he always chooses the path of least resistance (a la I will better send Nyquist to GR instead of explaining to Cleary why he is not playing).

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 08:21 PM ET

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Cleary’s terrible with fans, almost as bad as Chelios, and at least Chelios got used and abused by the Montreal and Chicago press. Cleary’s fantastic with the media, but I’ve heard more than a few Wings fans say that Cleary’s the opposite in terms of his interactions with them.

Sorry George, but from personal experience I have to disagree with you on Cleary’s interaction with fans. Last season the Wife and I posed for a picture with Kronwall and Cleary. They were both very pleasant. Later during the event Cleary and Kronwall with both very cordial signing my Lidstrom Jersey. I told my Wife I wanted Cleary’s autograph as I thought it was Cleary’s last season. Guess I was wrong.

Posted by bigfrog on 07/10/14 at 08:24 PM ET

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Later during the event Cleary and Kronwall with both very cordial signing my Lidstrom Jersey. I told my Wife I wanted Cleary’s autograph as I thought it was Cleary’s last season. Guess I was wrong.

Sorry I meant “were” not “with”. Fat finger again.

Posted by bigfrog on 07/10/14 at 08:27 PM ET

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Since when people get paid $2.5 mil dollars for being just nice and working hard in the gym? In what universe KH is living? Where is accountability Mr.Ilitch? Does anybody question KH? Seriously, anybody? Please start paying attention to what KH is doing to the best franchise in sports.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 08:28 PM ET

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Levity folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBoTEZxWkec

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate-made in Detroit on 07/10/14 at 08:28 PM ET

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As my daddy used to say: life’s a shit sandwich and every days another bite.

Posted by duhduhduh on 07/10/14 at 08:32 PM ET

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George—thunderous applause.

Posted by captaineclectic on 07/10/14 at 08:33 PM ET

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George—thunderous applause.

Posted by captaineclectic on 07/10/14 at 08:33 PM ET

Defiantly!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate-made in Detroit on 07/10/14 at 08:35 PM ET

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Please see: Helene St. James’ Tweets added to the entry.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/10/14 at 08:40 PM ET

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On behalf of my fellow Wings fans, we’ve had it. We are fed up, we are fed up with you, and we are angry. Why?

Because you are, the whole lot of you, dopes.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/10/14 at 08:43 PM ET

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“My program has been one of loyalty and there’s good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion.”

Awesome. Our GM just indirectly admitted that he errs on the side of loyalty, which sometimes means you build an inferior team and you know it. It’s a shame to watch Pav and Z finish the back nine and know they have no shot at another Cup as long as Holland is running the show.

Posted by ZandPasha11 on 07/10/14 at 08:46 PM ET

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Between now and then, don’t be too surprised if you lose some season ticket-holders and lose some fans (and I mean that very sincerely) based upon your free agency track record and your “loyalty” to players who simply cannot be afforded preferential treatment in the “cap era.”

Yeah.  Just like the fans the NHL lost after the lockout, or that other time something happened to get somebody’s knickers in a twist.

So much agita over something so incredibly meaningless.  Ooh, a vet forward got a crap 1 year deal.  APOCALYPSE.

You guys find the weirdest things to go mental over.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/10/14 at 08:47 PM ET

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Because you are, the whole lot of you, dopes.

If ever there was a doubt that you are nothing but a troll…

Posted by Garth on 07/10/14 at 08:49 PM ET

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Eric, you’re a bit of an *#$%@& yourself.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/10/14 at 08:50 PM ET

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Updated twice with even more St. James.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/10/14 at 08:52 PM ET

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You guys find the weirdest things to go mental over.

They could be weirder. They could be mental over other fans.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/10/14 at 08:56 PM ET

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Because you are, the whole lot of you, dopes

Do you really want to defend THIS move by KH? Please enlighten us.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 08:56 PM ET

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Cleary and his contract will be Pronger’ed on the LTIR. He will break quickly resolving the issue. Sadly, that is now the hope….

Posted by Chip4Pips on 07/10/14 at 08:58 PM ET

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This is a great analysis George of a completely absurd situation. Playing for the complete status quo and even risking losing talented guys like Calahan and Ferraro is beyond ridiculous.  We go from hoping for solid free agent signings to Dan Cleary and Kyle Quincey.  It beyond pathetic.  My wife and I have already decided the annual trip we make to the Joe from out of state between Oct and Christmas is off this year. We actually make two and the second is likely to be cancelled is well and will be evaluated mid season.  I am sure many fans will consider whether to throw their hard earned cash at the team this year because its starting to feel like we are being played for suckers.  Wings are still a top D man and a top forward away from being a true contender and all we get is Quincey and Cleary,  This is the first season I would actually say the Wings don’t deserve to make the playoffs due to the terrible personnel decisions that are being made.

Posted by karlander on 07/10/14 at 08:59 PM ET

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Eric, you’re a bit of an *#$%@& yourself.

You do love proving what an internet troll you are whilst roundly denouncing internet trolls, George.  Didn’t you just have to go back and edit a post because you acted childishly like this before?  Me, I don’t really care, if you think being able to find my nae and use it somehow chastens me… but at some point the sheer hypocrisy between your purported worldview and your actions just has to drive you a bit nuts, right?  Like a subconscious, mental bone spur in a joint, grating and causing pain?

It’s absurd to overreact the way you have to a meaningless depth signing.  I’d write it off as you just being out of whack from a long weekend in TC, but you do tend to go ‘round the bend at odd times.  The rest of the chorus here just eats up the kind of empty, thoughtless rage you’re voiding into the internet though, so I guess that’s a ‘win’.

It’s a junk, depth signing George.  Get down off the cross.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/10/14 at 09:00 PM ET

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Holland said that if Cleary doesn’t have a big camp, “he won’t be in the lineup.”

KH, you mean “not falling down on every shift trying to catch up with the pace of the game” big camp? How about we get real here. Jurco can score 10 goals in 5 preseason games and Cleary will still take his place in the lineup because it is EASY to send Jurco down and KH likes it easy.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 09:01 PM ET

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Do you really want to defend THIS move by KH? Please enlighten us.

What’s to defend, exactly?  It’s a crappy contract given to a depth vet forward.  Whoopee.  If he doesn’t have a big camp he won’t be in the lineup.  Their words, not mine.  If he misses the team out of training camp I’d give odds he retires before mid-season if he’s not called up, or demands a release or a waiver.

I mean, Jiminy Cricket people, you’re all in a race to see who can out-outrage each other over a deal that’s like 2% of the salary cap… just because it may keep back a couple prospects who weren’t particularly close to being ready last year from… showing that they’re probably not totally ready yet either?

You guys are working really hard to find things to kvetch about.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/10/14 at 09:06 PM ET

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You do love proving what an internet troll you are whilst roundly denouncing internet trolls, George.

Hey now that this user has admitted that he’s a troll, can he finally be treated like one by the management?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/10/14 at 09:07 PM ET

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SWEET SASSY MOLASSY !

Terrific news.
I was getting used to not ralphing when I saw the jersey “11” because I would finally remember that it was Alfredsson and not Cleary.

Now that he has signed a contract first will we have to get used to seeing him in “11” again because he just got dibs over Alfie?

Posted by RWBill on 07/10/14 at 09:08 PM ET

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They could be weirder. They could be mental over other fans.

Yeah, I pulled back my ‘Open letter to Wings fans’ at the last minute, JJ.  Phew.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/10/14 at 09:09 PM ET

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Hey now that this user has admitted that he’s a troll, can he finally be treated like one by the management?

Man, KK needs to add some kind of function where you could just filter posters you didn’t want to read.  Imagine how sweet that would be!

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/10/14 at 09:10 PM ET

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@ J.J. - I’m curous, what are your thoughts on this summer thus far? Quincey and Cleary? I’m still hoping this is a nightmare that I’ll wake up from.

Posted by ZandPasha11 on 07/10/14 at 09:11 PM ET

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This is the first season I would actually say the Wings don’t deserve to make the playoffs due to the terrible personnel decisions that are being made.


The season will start and I will be rooting for our team to win every game and make the playoffs, but I have a feeling something big has to happen for Ilitch to start paying attention to what KH is doing. Something like missing the playoffs or Dats demanding a trade or bolting to Russia.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 09:11 PM ET

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Maybe we will get lucky and HockeyinHD,  or rather Eric,  will go troll another teams site.

Posted by karlander on 07/10/14 at 09:14 PM ET

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If he doesn’t have a big camp he won’t be in the lineup

It’s good to know that Cleary had a great camp last year so he won the job and sent Nyquist to GR. And this year he will do the same to Jurco. We are not willing to feature the best possible lineup from day 1, all the best available free agents basically said “FU KH”. This worries me, but I am glad you are OK with it.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 09:17 PM ET

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Hey now that this user has admitted that he’s a troll, can he finally be treated like one by the management?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/10/14 at 09:07 PM ET

Please?

The hostility and personal nature of his attack on George was unwarranted, and all he does is defend every move management makes.

Posted by captaineclectic on 07/10/14 at 09:18 PM ET

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Man, KK needs to add some kind of function where you could just filter posters you didn’t want to read.  Imagine how sweet that would be!

It’s fine to ignore people you don’t want to read, but since you clearly haven’t filtered every commenter here after calling everybody dopes, it’s clear that you’re only interested in getting a rise. Do-it-yourself anti-trolling isn’t an effective measure.

Plain and simple, it would be a better forum if you were no longer a part of it. That’s my final word on the topic.

@ J.J. - I’m curous, what are your thoughts on this summer thus far? Quincey and Cleary? I’m still hoping this is a nightmare that I’ll wake up from.

I’m very dissatisfied with the way the summer has gone to this point. I’m hopeful in the possibility that additional moves can be made which don’t end up in the Wings essentially icing the same team as last year which was a bubble team during the biggest injury problems and a mid-tier contender when healthy.

I think the Wings are in a spot where they could have improved to being an upper-mid-tier to upper-tier contender (with some real luck) and one that would still be a solid low-tier contender if faced with injury problems again.

Basically, the team could have gotten better and they have not. They still could, but I’m not as confident that this will happen.  I remain hopeful.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/10/14 at 09:18 PM ET

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Palms, do you really deserve it if you really do nothing at all to improve ?  Its the old cliché of thinking of management thinking we will do better because each player will get better.  But that rarely ever happens, especially considering injuries and guys that even regress ( Kindl as example)

Posted by karlander on 07/10/14 at 09:18 PM ET

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Nill and Scotty leaving is what eroded KH’s facade as hockey’s finest GM, a myth many of us, including me, believed in. 

Nill and H. Anderson were the architects of the 2008 team; Devallano as well, and the squad was mainly comprised of assets we acquired prior to the 04-05 work stoppage. 

I’m trying to figure out where this wrongheadedness comes from.  The NHL has changed.  KH has not.  It’s no secret how conservative the guy is.  Could that be a reason, since the classic definition of conservatism is “opposition to change”?  I’m not talking political or social conservatism.  I’m talking about a very general attitude/philosophy that might be making it so hard for KH to adapt to the modern NHL.

I’m desperate for answers, and trying to avoid the dreadful feeling that KH is going to trade Tatar and/or Jurco.

Posted by ianfdunham on 07/10/14 at 09:19 PM ET

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Open letter to Malik-

A dumbo open letter rot Ken Holland. I’ll buy into his program and proven record of success- based on loyalty- over your whiny drivel letter anytime.

Posted by joedaiceman on 07/10/14 at 09:24 PM ET

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all the best available free agents basically said “FU KH”

Bingo. Everyone now knows that Ken Holland (a) is delusional about evaluating talent; (b) is unable to distinguish between emotion and business; (c) knowingly takes action that is not always in the best interest of winning a Cup, but rather plays favorites ; and (d) always low balls UFAs on contract offers. Translation: we will never get another marquee free agent while Ken Holland is in Detroit, because he’d rather sign fringe players who have no business in the lineup to begin with (Cleary, Sammy, Tootoo, the list goes on and on).

Posted by ZandPasha11 on 07/10/14 at 09:29 PM ET

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Not even Nancy Kerrigan likes this signing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NjUQMs0kVEI&sns=em

Posted by RWBill on 07/10/14 at 09:40 PM ET

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I love this team and will support it come October, whether Dan Cleary is there or not. Ken Holland has 4 Stanley cup rings and yes he had help compiling those damn teams. Let’s see if Pav and Z can stay healthy.

Posted by topshelf14 from Detroit, MI on 07/10/14 at 09:56 PM ET

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I love this team and will support it come October

Yes, me too, but Z and Dats deserve better.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 10:02 PM ET

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Had to fix that up just a bit. Hope you don’t mind.

I am not the one who is blaming KH as the only reason he did not get a single UFA he offered a deal to,  but I definitely criticize him for doubling down on his failures by signing (and overpaying) for Q and Cleary.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/10/14 at 10:12 PM ET

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