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Afternoon news: On Clark Park, Ken Holland, Henrik Zetterberg, stats and Tweets of note

Of disparate and generally brief Red Wings-related note:

1. Fox Sports Detroit posted a clip in which the hockey programs at Detroit's Clark Park are spotlighted:

2. Among The Athletic's Craig Custance's mailbag questions:

Well, for one, Jonathan Ericsson’s owed $4.25 million through 2019-20, and that's not an easy contract to get out of.  My sense is that GM Ken Holland believes that’s a somewhat reasonable rate for a veteran defenseman who can play on the bottom pair. He’s still a guy earning over 19 minutes per game right now under Jeff Blashill and the Red Wings see value in having a defenseman who has size and strength and gives the opposition something to think about physically. When you look at the makeup of some of the other defensemen on the roster, they don’t necessarily bring that to the table. That’s the thought process, at least.

If it were up to me, I’d have six great-skating, offensive defensemen and try to win a track meet. Those defensemen don’t grow on trees though, and the Red Wings still believe you need more balance on defense. But mostly it's the contract. That's not an easy one to move.

This is the big question in Detroit. What I don’t have a great sense of is how he’ll be evaluated this season. If the team overachieves and makes the playoffs, I guess that’s good for ownership and the bottom line, but it’s not ideal for the long-term prospects of the franchise.

As owner, I’d be more impressed if he made the tough decisions and started selling even before it was clear the team was out of playoff contention if it maximized the return for some of the Red Wings' moveable assets. But I’m not the owner. I do get the sense from Holland that he has the long view in mind while managing this season and won't make short-term moves just to save his job. That's key.

Without knowing where owner Christopher Ilitch’s priorities lie, it’s hard to truly evaluate Holland’s chances, but as not to dodge the question, I’ll say 60-40 he’s in a different role after this season.

Custance continues (paywall)...

3. ESPN's Greg Wyshynski gives Henrik Zetterberg half a chance of making the Hockey Hall of Fame:

Henrik Zetterberg, Center
(Quads 2,3)

The essential question from Red Wings fans will be "why Datsyuk and not Zetterberg?" The short answer is that Datsyuk is a superior all-around player whose impact on the game supplements his lack of dominating stats. Zetterberg's Conn Smythe is a highlight.

4. In the interview department, Dr. Murray Howe spoke with the CBC News regarding his new book, Nine Lessons I Learned From My Father...

5. And the Red Wings Alumni Association's latest podcast is out:

6. The Dawson Creek Mirror's Declan Riley penned an article about Nathan Staios, Tag Bertuzzi and Danny Weight:

Bertuzzi, having played most of his competitive minor hockey in Oakland, Michigan; down the road from the National Development Program understands the pressures of hockey. He has been producing points with his midget team with a promising junior hockey career ahead of him with the Guelph Storm, of the OHL where father Todd also played.

“Having a dad that was so talented in the NHL is obviously hard to live by but you get to see what he does on a day to day and how he carries himself and how successful he was because of his attitude,” says Bertuzzi.

“Because of my dad’s success in the NHL; I got to see him become a better man and a better player,” he beams.

7. Among TSN's Scott Cullen's "Statistically Speaking" notes:

Red Wings RW Anthony Mantha scored one goal and added two assists in a 6-3 loss at Calgary. He has eight points (4 G, 4 A) in the past six games…Red Wings C Frans Nielsen contributed a goal and an assist at Calgary, and has four points (2 G, 2 A) in the past three games.

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Tomas Tatar and Dylan Larkin: While they had positive possession numbers and generated shots against Calgary, the Red Wings forwards were also on the ice for three goals against in a 6-3 loss.

8. On Twitter:

9. And finally, 97.1 the Ticket's Jamie and Stoney will be giving away tickets to the Wings' game against Colorado on the 19th during their Friday, November 17th broadcast.

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see value in having a defenseman who has size and strength and gives the opposition something to think about physically

Really? And I think E has been decent this season overall, but physical?

Posted by VPalmer on 11/10/17 at 03:13 PM ET

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the Red Wings see value in having a defenseman who has size and strength and gives the opposition something to think about physically.

Are we still talking about Ericsson?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 11/10/17 at 03:23 PM ET

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If the team overachieves and makes the playoffs, I guess that’s good for ownership and the bottom line, but it’s not ideal for the long-term prospects of the franchise

...The Wings should sell off any pieces Green, and anyone else, including Zetterberg (assuming someone wants them) and not worry about making the playoffs for what would certainly be a short stay. Olympia Corporation will be able to book concerts, ice capades, roller derby, big time wrestling in place of playoff games and make tons of $$$. I suggest a “soft” tank and maximize draft picks, just like every team who has won the cup the past 7-8 years has done. LA, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and to a lesser extent Boston have all benefited from top 5 picks multiple years.

The anchor on this team is a ton of bad long term contracts for players nobody wants, and only time or cap floor teams making deals like Phoenix will fix that.

Posted by Down River Dan on 11/10/17 at 03:32 PM ET

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see value in having a defenseman who has size and strength and gives the opposition something to think about physically

We see so much value in this, that Blashill spent the summer pounding the table to sign Witkowski too. Next step is to see if Derian Hatcher is still in shape…

Posted by fatsavage on 11/10/17 at 03:33 PM ET

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The anchor on this team is a ton of bad long term contracts for players nobody wants

Please provide definitions for “ton” and “long term”, because the Wings have exactly three contracts that last more than three years beyond this season.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 11/10/17 at 03:58 PM ET

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Please provide definitions for “ton” and “long term”,

I would classify anything that runs until 2021 as long term, so how bout Nielsen, Abdelker,  Dekyser, Helm, Daley, Ericson for starters.

I’m guessing not a ton of teams lining up to take those guys, but what do I know??

Posted by Down River Dan on 11/10/17 at 04:11 PM ET

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I would classify anything that runs until 2021 as long term, so how bout Nielsen, Abdelker,  Dekyser, Helm, Daley, Ericson for starters.

Tatar is not looking hot for $5.2 mil either although I liked the deal when it was announced.

Posted by VPalmer on 11/10/17 at 04:18 PM ET

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Posted by Down River Dan on 11/10/17 at 04:11 PM ET

For the right amount of salary retained (within reason), you can definitely move DDK and Daley.  Maybe Nielsen.

Posted by ilovehomers on 11/10/17 at 04:28 PM ET

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Posted by Down River Dan on 11/10/17 at 04:11 PM ET

For the right amount of salary retained (within reason), you can definitely move DDK and Daley.  Maybe Nielsen.

Posted by ilovehomers on 11/10/17 at 04:28 PM ET

Don’t forget that DDK and Daley have NTCs and Nielsen has a full NMC. But hey, with Kenny’s track record, well I’m sure he’ll have no problem getting around that…

Posted by fatsavage on 11/10/17 at 04:45 PM ET

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Are we still talking about Ericsson?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 11/10/17 at 03:23 PM ET

Yes, because he’s terrible.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 11/10/17 at 05:56 PM ET

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“the Red Wings see value in having a defenseman who has size and strength and gives the opposition something to think about physically”

First, it takes nards to guess what the team values in Ericsson.

Second, if you compare Hicketts to Ericsson I’d say Hickets hits more, skates better, passes just as well if not better, shoots more, doesn’t treat the puck like a hot potato and actually stick handles out of his own zone, and doesn’t barf up the puck passing to no one to create turnovers and scoring chances.

The only advantage E might have over Hicketts is he may block more shots because of his size.

I’ll go on record and say, if I were GM, I’d gladly eat all of Ericsson’s contract to eliminate the mistakes he makes, and add a fast, mobile, physical defenceman that adds to the offence.

In no way shape or form does E deserve to wear the winged wheel. He’s just a mistake waiting to happen.

Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 11/10/17 at 07:23 PM ET

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Without knowing where owner Christopher Ilitch’s priorities lie, it’s hard to truly evaluate Holland’s chances, but as not to dodge the question, I’ll say 60-40 he’s in a different role after this season.

I haven’t seen much that tells me that Chris is terribly interested in any of the sports teams he owns. If the Wings sell out LCA all year (which they will, since it’s a new building), I picture him going with the status quo and signing KH to another deal, rather than having to do the leg work to sign someone else. Or at best, promoting a KH protege like Draper, which would mostly be a lateral move.

Posted by Steve in San Francisco on 11/10/17 at 09:04 PM ET

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Pretty sure Nielsen only had a full NMC in year 1 so he couldn’t be exposed in the expansion draft. Probably a NTC now.

Posted by easmus on 11/11/17 at 11:54 AM ET

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Pretty sure Nielsen only had a full NMC in year 1 so he couldn’t be exposed in the expansion draft. Probably a NTC now.

Posted by easmus on 11/11/17 at 11:54 AM ET

Sorry. Not true. He had a full NMC last year, full NMC this year, then a modified NTC for the last 4 years.Hence the suggestion to move him now is pretty far-fetched.

But even if you happened to be right…and instead of an NMC he had an NTC…how would that change anything for Kenny? Would he waive him? No. Would he twist his arm to trade him somewhere? Highly, highly unlikely. After all, it was Nielsen, not Stamkos, who was our primary target all along. Sure Kenny. Did you come up with that tale after Stamkos refused to even answer your phone?

Posted by fatsavage on 11/11/17 at 07:05 PM ET

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Posted by fatsavage on 11/11/17 at 07:05 PM ET

You had to mention Stamkos but Kucherov is an 24yr old stud. Together they are far ahead of the competition with 56 combined points so far this yr. Kuch is signed to a good contract and just keeps getting better, scary.

E , I just try to ignore but the #52 keeps showing up on playbacks of goals.  Not going anywhere, IMO

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 11/12/17 at 12:52 PM ET

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