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A kind-of-sort-of replay of the Franzen ‘incidental contact’ call

If you were wondering about the no-goal call via "incidental contact " against Red Wings forward Johan Franzen, whose team still defeated Minnesota 3-2, the Wild's full-game highlight clip shows the call and its replay around 3:45. Hopefully the clip's set up to play from that point onward:

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That’s a Holmstrom weak kind of call. Oh a Wing is near the goalie? Wave it off.

Posted by AZWinger on 03/22/14 at 09:39 PM ET

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It’s a fine call.

Nothing happened which deserved a penalty to either the Wings or the Wild, but he was hampered in controlling the rebound and the rebound indirectly went into the net.

It’s textbook “incidental contact.”

Posted by alwaysaurie on 03/22/14 at 10:34 PM ET

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My feeling about the call is either the goal should have been allowed because contact was initiated by the Wild player, Franzen got off the goalie as soon as he could, and the puck went in off the same player that initiated contact (making it a kind of poetic goal if it stands—push player into goalie, score into own goal); or the goal should not have been allowed for incidental contact and the Wild player should have been penalized for interference for knocking Franzen down when the puck was not there. What actually happened tells the Red Wings “it’s okay if they knock your players down and don’t you dare put the puck near the goal”.

Posted by bleep bloop on 03/22/14 at 11:55 PM ET


this is from rule 69.1

“The overriding rationale of this rule is that a goalkeeper should have the ability to move freely within his goal crease without being hindered by the actions of an attacking player. If an attacking player enters the goal crease and, by his actions, impairs the goalkeeper’s ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

If an attacking player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by a defending player so as to cause him to come into contact with the goalkeeper, such contact will not be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.”

Looks good, but on-ice call overrules.

Posted by redrum on 03/22/14 at 11:57 PM ET

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...he was hampered in controlling the rebound and the rebound indirectly went into the net.

Posted by alwaysaurie

As both bleep and redrum have pointed out, Franzen was pushed into the goalie by a Wild player. If the goalie couldn’t play the puck, it wasn’t because of anything that Franzen initiated.

It was a ridiculously bad call.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 03/23/14 at 12:16 AM ET

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Franzen was pushed into the crease by Scandella and he exited the crease in time for Kuemper to make the save before Scandella put the puck in via a deflection. I’d argue that it was a Detroit Swede in the Crease call, but I’m both biased and got really tired of Steve Kozari and and Dean Morton’s standards of officiating during the Wings-Wild game and the Wings-Penguins game that preceded it.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 03/23/14 at 01:40 AM ET

Alan's avatar

Clearly an awful call. Are NHL on-ice officials ever tested on their knowledge of the rulebook? Perhaps the league should start.

It’s not just limited to us, either—I’ve seen many cases this year where officials have made some awful calls. The number of bad calls seem to rise every year, and it shouldn’t be any wonder why fans are resentful of the zebras.

Franzen was clearly pushed into the goalie, and the puck deflected off their own guy. If you want to talk textbook, incidental contact isn’t even a factor here, since said incidental contact was initiated by the defender.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 03/23/14 at 05:35 AM ET

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