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A bit odd: Red Wings waive Jan Mursak

Updated at 12:32 PM: Slightly strange news from ESPN's Pierre LeBrun regarding Red Wings forward Jan Mursak:

I'm guessing that the Wings want Mursak to get playing time, but potentially losing a warm body given the injury parade of late seems strange.

The Free Press's Helene St. James is confirming (update: ditto for MLive's Ansar Khan) and while we wait for practice news, here's something to tide you over:

Update: St. James reports that the Wings want Mursak to play...somewhere else...

The Detroit Red Wings placed little-used, oft-injured forward Jan Mursak on waivers today.

If he clears, he can be sent to Grand Rapids.

"He needs to play," general manager Ken Holland told the Free Press. If that ends up being for another organization, the Wings can live with it.

Murrsak barely has been on the Wings' radar the past two seasons, thanks to numerous injuries. He broke an ankle at the start of the 2011-12 season and hurt his collarbone on opening night this season. When he played in Thursday's 3-2 loss to Columbus, it was only Mursak's second appearance of the season.

In 46 career games with the Wings, Mursak, 25, has four points and a minus-1 rating.

MLive's Ansar Khan's confirming:

The Detroit Red Wings have placed forward Jan Mursak on waivers today.

If he clears by noon Saturday, the club will have the option of assigning him to the Grand Rapids Griffins.

Mursak returned to the lineup Thursday after suffering a collar bone injury in the season opener Jan. 19 at St. Louis.

He could not have cracked the lineup when everyone is healthy.

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detroitredwings's avatar

but we are keeping Cleary, right?

Posted by detroitredwings on 02/22/13 at 01:08 PM ET

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Wow, that is a surprise.  A big surprise.  And it makes no sense to me.  Is it possible that Holland is working on a trade of some kind?

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 02/22/13 at 01:25 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Wonder if Holland has decided that he really doesn’t like his team anymore?

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 02/22/13 at 01:31 PM ET

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I hate to say this but I haven’t watched a single minute of a DRW game in probably 2 weeks.

For one, life has been a bit crazy between the wife, the dog, and work…and for two…I just haven’t really cared.

But this shit…between Holland’s interview a few days back and randomly waiving someone who never got a chance when you have Buckets who has definitely lost his way is just…dafuq is going on?

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 02/22/13 at 01:45 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

GM Speak: “I don’t care if he clears” - I kind of don’t want him claimed.

Although losing a player and a contract gives the Wings more flexibility.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/22/13 at 01:46 PM ET

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i bet Tampa claims him and then trades him to us next year for a second rounder

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/22/13 at 01:51 PM ET

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So he’ll hang onto some players til their 30 hoping to see their upside, but ones who’ve had personal struggle and bad luck get thrown to the wolves.  Playing time my ass or they’d have sent him down for a conditioning stint, being out a month and all.  What about Eaves playing time?  Any interest in that?

Kenny has been all sizzle and no steak the past 5 with NO MAJOR MOVES since we won the cup.  Lots of major losses, no major aquisitions.  But he’s the king at waiving players, taking on-ice performance completely out of the equation to make these decisions as well.  He must keep the best golfers on the team.  Pav is lucky he’s so good at hockey or he’d be waived too.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/22/13 at 01:54 PM ET

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i bet Tampa claims him and then trades him to us next year for a 1st rounder
Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/22/13 at 12:51 PM ET

FTFY tongue wink

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 02/22/13 at 01:54 PM ET

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Jeebus.

I sure as hell hope there’s a master plan here at work.  This makes no damn sense at all.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 02/22/13 at 02:06 PM ET

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There has been an organizational problem for years where if you become one “their guys” (Cleary for example) you can do no wrong and are never held accountable for anything.  If you’re not (pretty much every young player we have like Tatar, Nyquist, and Mursak apparantly) if you don’t go out and score a 2 goals every game you’re going to play 8 minutes on the 4th line or worse.  Take a guy like Tatar, comes out of the gate with 4 points right away, yet is lucky to get 12 minutes a night, while Daniel Cleary gets to do nothing on the top PP unit and a line with Pavel.

This over-riping stuff has gotten out of control.  What ends up happening when you put guys like Tatar and Nyquist in the AHL for so many years is they become AHL players.  So when they come up to the show, they need time to adjust to the bigger, faster game, but they aren’t given the time to adjust before they’re banished to 10 minutes a night or the press box.  It’s time to see what we have in these young guys in the role they are meant for which means no more Cleary and Abdelkader on a line with Pavel.  Bring Nyquist up and let him play with Pavel for more than 1 period to see what could be.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/22/13 at 02:11 PM ET

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but we are keeping Cleary, right?

Posted by detroitredwings on 02/22/13 at 12:08 PM ET

lol. no shite

In the words of Jerry G: “What a long ,strange trip it’s been”

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 02/22/13 at 02:12 PM ET

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Are you kidding me? Mursak played great last night. Good speed and hustle. Cleary plays terrible and gets more ice time for spearing his own organs.

Posted by Crater from SoCal on 02/22/13 at 02:13 PM ET

detroitredwings's avatar

Maybe it WAS a mistake for ignoring Scotty Bowman’s wish of making his son Stan a GM at Detroit. Now we don’t have Scotty’s advice and still have KH as team-liking GM.

Posted by detroitredwings on 02/22/13 at 02:14 PM ET

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What ends up happening when you put guys like Tatar and Nyquist in the AHL for so many years is they become AHL players.  So when they come up to the show, they need time to adjust to the bigger, faster game, but they aren’t given the time to adjust before they’re banished to 10 minutes a night or the press box.

+100500

Posted by detroitredwings on 02/22/13 at 02:20 PM ET

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This is a direct quote from Not-Kenny Holland:
“I really like our team now.”

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 02/22/13 at 02:39 PM ET

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The Cleary bashing has grown deafening of late. I think he’s played pretty good the last few games (I realize playing with Datyuk makes ANYONE look better). His shot on the shorty was brilliant and last night, besides spearing himself, he, and Abbie too for that matter, were playing really tough on the forecheck, in the corners, and infront and behind the net. That line had countless chances that usually started with the defensive paralysis Datsyuk tends to cause, but ended with Abbie battling in front of Cleary retrieving and either setting up or getting a second good scoring chance. I wasn’t thrilled with his play for the first several games, but I think he’s gotten consistently better since the game he scored his first goal and the last few games have probably been his best. He’s still definitely third line material but we also have Bert, Franz, Helm, AND Sammy out. That’s the second line. So of course we have to have lower line players fill in. We just need to get healthy. I know we have to keep saying stuff like “that’s no excuse”, etc. because every game counts and you can’t stop getting points (as we have) or you may not make the playoffs. Also with all of the Cleary bashing, I hear very little Brunner bashing. I know he obviously needs time to adjust, but Brunner has been in the middle of a lot of game changing mistakes of late. He does score a lot which offsets it to some degree, but it seems like his mistakes are just coming at the worst times these days. That last goal was totally his fault. Not only did he get his shot blocked on a rush play, but then after a great hustle to get back while the defender was pointing at the guy he was supposed to cover, he went for the puck carrier which left the goal scorer wide open. I hope he adjusts completely to the NHL game before playoffs, because NHL playoffs are a whole other adjustment. Hopefully he’ll get that first timer playoff luck Wings players seem to get pretty often (Helm, Ericsson, etc.)? They play with a wide eyed abandonment.

We need to go on a tear to make the playoffs. That’s a fact. Getting all or most of these guys back would help a LOT. Not only could we have a full second line coming in (and a much more balanced one at that), but we could add Smith and Colaiacovo on the back and Helm on the forecheck. We would be a different a different team. So while it’s no “excuse” for losing, it is a reason to not really judge our team’s ultimate chances by it’s current state. The Hawks have been on an unreal tear but if they get a rash of injuries right before playoffs and the Wings get totally healthy, I’d take the Wings all day in that series. There’s going to be a lot of luck involved before we get to the end of all of this. We just need to make the playoffs. Not easy, but definitely doable for any team with Datsyuk AND Zetterberg. Last night’s loss was inexcusable, the worst by far. That CANNOT happen anymore. We have to get one point out of that at the least. Gonna be interesting to see what the team does going forward in terms of moves. If we can somehow get (and stay) healthy and make one move for another top 4 d-man at the deadline, I think we’d have a really strong squad with as good a chance as any.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/22/13 at 02:44 PM ET

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Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/22/13 at 01:44 PM ET

I commend you on your optimistic attitude but that is a lot of “ifs” being thrown in there. For this team to make the playoffs they have to go on a crazy tear…. Unfortunately, I’m not seeing it with this group

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 02/22/13 at 02:55 PM ET

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WHAT THE F***?!

Unless there’s some huge deal in the works, this move makes absolutely no sense.

First: It’s obvious that we need to make a trade. You can’t tell me there’s a team out there that wouldn’t have given us at least a draft pick for Mursak? Or took him as part of a package in a deal?

Second: Why waive a young, speedy forward with a small cap hit at all? Unless it’s simply the club’s way of saying “Tatar and Andersson are better than you.”

Really, really odd move.

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 02/22/13 at 03:02 PM ET

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Mursak: Ranked 6th by thn.com 2011-2012 Wings depth chart. “Strong skater who went from scorer to checking role.”
Emmerton outshined him this season. Tootoo here, Abdelkader is better than Mursak and Andersson from what I’ve seen of him also worth keeping.

I got no problem with Kenny’s decision here.

This is going to be a ugly season.

Kindl fast tracking his way out next.

It’s a good thing we are starting to see finally who will be NHLers out of our prospects.

Tatar one of the few that has shown he really wants to stay at this level. He’s playing with some real determination.

Habs playoff run came to an end in the mid 80s I believe after 20+ years and so will the Wings this season perhaps.

 

 

Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 02/22/13 at 03:09 PM ET

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Unfortunately, I’m not seeing it with this group

What if the group included the seven regulars who are injured right now?

Posted by Garth on 02/22/13 at 03:10 PM ET

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Emmerton outshined him this season.

Emmerton has played well this season, but it’s not fair to say he outshined Mursak because Mursak missed 14 games because of injury.

Posted by Garth on 02/22/13 at 03:12 PM ET

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Might as well throw in my opinion.  Why not waive someone who will not get claimed, a bigger cap hit , who is playing on one knee ( at best ) and is at the end of his NHL career??

Cleary should have been waived, IMO.

If Mursak gets claimed which I think he will, that will be a big slap in face for Holland.

What happens when, Sammy (useless), Bert (LTIR), Helm, Smith, Colo, Mule, etc come back?

Which rookie gets dumped, sure as sh!t won’t be a Vet?  Time to cut the ties with a couple of Vets, again IMO.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 02/22/13 at 03:25 PM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

Even my cat can’t figure this one out.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/22/13 at 03:39 PM ET

Vladimir16's avatar

What if the group included the seven regulars who are injured right now?
Posted by Garth on 02/22/13 at 02:10 PM ET

Yes, I think they make the playoffs without this injury craziness. The problem is the bleeding won’t stop.

Second: Why waive a young, speedy forward with a small cap hit at all? Unless it’s simply the club’s way of saying “Tatar and Andersson are better than you.”

Really, really odd move.

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 02/22/13 at 02:02 PM ET

This ^^^^^ I have a hard time believing they couldn’t get something, anything in a trade

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 02/22/13 at 03:46 PM ET

SYF's avatar

It’ll be fuching hilarious if the Laffs pick him up and he stays on the team to burn our asses in next year’s Winter Classic.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 02/22/13 at 03:51 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

What if the group included the seven regulars who are injured right now?

Posted by Garth on 02/22/13 at 02:10 PM ET

We would still be enjoying the annual February freak out free for all free fall.  Good point, though.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 02/22/13 at 04:29 PM ET

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for him to be claimed, he has to stay on the NHL roster of that team. with his injury history, it might not happen. every team in the league has their own Mursaks or Tatars bouncing up and down between the AHL and NHL. promising him a roster spot could be kind of risky. not saying he won’t get claimed but it’s definitely possible he won’t. And perhaps Holland even chose this day to do it strategically because he thought this was currently the least possible chance he’d get claimed. either way, depending on how high of a team claims him, I think we’ll get a better idea if he may of had any trade value. Though I can’t imagine Ken Holland didn’t try before he made the decision to waive him. I think teams are hesitant to make trades for players they deduce will likely get waived due to roster crunch. The writing’s kind of on the wall if you do the math.   

I thought Mursak’s effort last night was real good and who knows what could happen with enough playing time, but to my eyes he still looked like a boy amongst men out there. He says he’s strong and in game shape, but “regular” body checks seem to just flatten the guy. I’d like to see him on the Griffins playing top minutes for a bunch of games so he can get back to game speed. He’s just played so little the last couple years.

Also, while we do need depth, I think if Franzen, Bert, and Helm were healthy, we probably would have just sent one of the kids back down and kept Mursak. But I think they are facing a reality where both Mursak and Eaves missed so much time that the game is just too fast for them right now and Tatar and Andersson just give them a much better chance to win. They need points immediately and literally can’t afford to send the kids back down so they have to waive someone instead. I think the decision was likely between Mursak and Eaves. Emmerton, Tootoo, Miller, Abbie, Tatar and Andersson are all playing well and important parts of the team right now. 

Those of you who honestly think Mursak helps the team more than Cleary are just blinded by hate. It’s not even close. I’d bet most every team in the league would add Cleary for their playoff run if they had the cap space. I bet even the Hawks would swoop him up if they could. He brings a lot of intangibles to the table and this idea that we should abandon veteran leadership at a time when we have a new captain and the biggest lack of leadership in two decades is crazy. What we are watching is transition on the fly. It’s not pretty, but if we can make the playoffs, it’ll be pretty damn impressive. Cleary will probably retire after his contract’s up and join the Wings’ staff in some sense continuing a tradition that WILL attract high end UFA’s in the future. It didn’t work for Suter and Parise, but I think it’ll work again. Some of you mock the Wings’ loyalty during bad patches, totally overlooking the fact that that loyalty is part of what creates the good patches. It’s a slippery slope I realize. That’s why GM is a hard job and most of them get fired every few years. Holland is an exception to the rule. I can’t imagine the rhetoric here if we were all Blue Jacket fans. Scary.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/22/13 at 04:32 PM ET

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“What we are watching is transition on the fly. It’s not pretty, but if we can make the playoffs, it’ll be pretty damn impressive.”

Not only that ... its happening in a lockout shortened season giving you half the time to analyze and decide who stays and who goes.

Why is it teams can send goalies down for conditioning but not forwards or Dmen ??  Is it in the CBA ??

I’d be surprised if Mersak was claimed but stranger things have happened.  Winnipeg could be desperate enough to do it.  Most likely he’ll go to GR and be showcased for trade bait.  If he actually plays well I’m sure Blash will appreciate that.

I think the major reason Nyquist is still in GR is because they already know what they have with him.  When he was up last season he was immediately on a line with Pasha and didn’t miss a beat.  Everyone knows he’ll be here full time next season so theres no reason to bring him up now.  There are too many others to evaluate.

I’ll agree, as a team, we’re not in a good place right now, nor are we in a good place in the standings, but with so many ‘regulars’ out with injuries its only reasonable to expect the borderline performance we’re seeing right now.

I’ve been saying this for quite a while now and i’m sticking to my guns ... KH has a trade up his sleeve and he’s waiting for the right time to pull it off.  If its that obvious to us then imagine how impatient he is.  Nobody likes to see this team struggle after the success they’ve had the last 2 decades.  This has to be eating him up inside.

Its time for us to be patient armchair GMs ... do our research and wait for the anvil to drop.  Its gunna be a doozie of a trade ... something that makes us all say ‘fuch yeah !!”

Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 02/22/13 at 05:21 PM ET

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Why is it teams can send goalies down for conditioning but not forwards or Dmen ??

I just assumed it depended on the injury.  Monster had a groin issue so he can go for conditioning, Mursak’s was upper body so he could still train (theoretically) while he recovers, therefore no conditioning stint.

I, however, have no basis for this assumption.

I think the major reason Nyquist is still in GR is because they already know what they have with him.

If that were the case then he should definitely be the one in Detroit.  We know he can play in the NHL and produce, and we desperately need secondary scoring, so it would make sense to have him up with the big boys.

Posted by Garth on 02/22/13 at 05:48 PM ET

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Gosh, I hope that the Cap Space this clears up will be used to offer Quincy a huge contract extension…

After reading Perfection’s manifesti, I have to agree with him that the Over-Ripening in Grand Rapids approach has perhaps over-ripened itself.

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 02/22/13 at 06:19 PM ET

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Let’s not be too fast in jumping on the Anti-Over-Ripening in Gr bandwagon, even if there may be something to it.

For years most of us have sang the praises of the process, and everyone from The Hockey News to Hockey Night in Canada and all points in between praised the Wings for this patient and mature approach.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 02/22/13 at 07:49 PM ET

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I like Mursak’s raw skills, but the dude is 25 and he hasn’t really done much of anything… ever.  I mean, is there some kind of difference between him or Emmerton or Abdelkader or Tootoo or blah blah blah?  Not really.  Mursak’s done less than all of them to earn a spot, but it’s not like I’d shed a tear if any of them got waived… they’ve all been pretty blah.

It’s entirely possible he’s going to go somewhere else and have a bit of success.  Wouldn’t surprise me.

Of course, a move like this creates another opportunity for people to go ape-bleep on Holland for not making magic like none of the other GMs have managed to do either, but that’s pretty much a given.

Detroit’s playing without 3 top 6 forwards (Franzen, Sammy and Bert), pretty much their best bottom 6 forward (Helm), and they’ve been at least 2 dmen short for just about the whole year with a revolving cadre of blueliners in the training room.

Seriously, how can any of you actually claim you know how the Wings would do this year before you’ve even seen the team play?  Toss in Howard being barely average and this is a recipe for a complete mess.

This is why I’m still 100% behind the ‘let it burn’ strategy.  Suck for a meaningless half season that’ll be over in just barely two more months, get a great pick, then dump some of the dead weight in the offseason and ramp it up again with a pretty solid core… when healthy.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 02/22/13 at 09:41 PM ET

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Of course, a move like this creates another opportunity for people to go ape-bleep on Holland for not making magic like none of the other GMs have managed to do either, but that’s pretty much a given.

I know, right?  I mean why bitch about Holland when every single other team is having a shitty year and currently in the midst of a five-game losing streak?

Come on, why isn’t anyone bitching about all those other teams?

This is why I’m still 100% behind the ‘let it burn’ strategy.

Wonderful, except to think that there is ANY WAY IN HELL that the organization would do that, you’d have to be completely delusional.

You talk about how unrealistic everyone is when complaining about Holland yet you’re being just as unrealistic thinking that they might ever consider blowing the team up.

Also, youre ‘let it burn’ strategy doesn’t make sense with waiving Mursak.  If you’re going to let it burn then you’d do all you can to let your younger guys show what they can do.  Put Mursak on a top line with Andersson and Nyquist, let them do what they want.  If they fail?  Great, at least we would know where they are, rather than waiving an unknown player.

Posted by Garth on 02/22/13 at 10:50 PM ET

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know, right?  I mean why bitch about Holland when every single other team is having a shitty year and currently in the midst of a five-game losing streak?

Eyeroll.

You’ve gotten oversoaked in asinine cynicism, Garth.  Avoid open flames.

Wonderful, except to think that there is ANY WAY IN HELL that the organization would do that, you’d have to be completely delusional.

Oh, I think you might be surprised, Garth.  The Wings certainly aren’t going to push any chips in to make a major deal for this year, for obvious and intelligent reasons.  They may do something for a guy or two who is signed beyond this year or whose rights are protected beyond this year, but I doubt it. 

My process on this is that barring an aggressive (and really stupid) push at the deadline to bring in a bunch of guys, Detroit’s going to miss the playoffs outright anyway.  That part is mostly beyond their control.  What does that leave?  Dumping a few guys at the deadline who are expiring and who the Wings don’t see themselves re-signing for future considerations.

Holland seems pot-committed to Quincey, absurdly so IMO but alas, so he’s likely safe.  I can see White, Cleary and possibly even Fil moved at the deadline this year if the Wings are sitting at 11th like they are trending to be.  If it was me I’d not move Fil now but rather save his rights as an inducement to go up in the draft, say by packaging Detroit’s 10-14th pick with his rights to get into the top 5-8 if that seems necessary.

You talk about how unrealistic everyone is when complaining about Holland yet you’re being just as unrealistic thinking that they might ever consider blowing the team up.

I’m not talking about ‘blowing the team up’, though.  I’m talking about letting the team slide majestically beneath the waves largely as is, moving maybe two guys at the deadline (Cleary and White), and then seeing what the 2014 draft looks like with their top 10-12 pick.  ‘Let it burn’, not ‘soak it in gasoline and toss a match’.

Also, youre ‘let it burn’ strategy doesn’t make sense with waiving Mursak.  If you’re going to let it burn then you’d do all you can to let your younger guys show what they can do.

Yes and no.  Mursak’s enough of an afterthought player that I hardly think he can be indicative of any kind of managerial strategy for the most part.  With Tootoo, Abby and Helm having long term deals there’s not a lot of room in the bottom 6, and it certainly seems like Andersson has cleanly passed him there anyway, along with Tatar.  Throw in Miller and/or Emmerton and/or Eaves and there’s just nowhere for Mursak to have gone.  That’s 6-8 guys cleanly and clearly ahead of Mursak for 6 spots, 5 of them with multi-year deals already.  Poof.

Just because the team may rely somewhat more on youth over the last few months of a lost season doesn’t mean that they should just throw every dime a dozen depth plug who is under 26 in their system on the NHL roster without regard to contract limits.  Even with Mursak out the airlock the Wings are still sitting at 16/9/2 with guys up, so there is more cutting yet to do once the sundry injuries heal up and guys get back on the ice, and the active roster.

Great, at least we would know where they are, rather than waiving an unknown player.

That’s one of the Great Fallacies of fan analysis.  Just because you as a fan haven’t seen Mursak play much doesn’t by any stretch imply he’s an unknown to the organization.  If a guy has been something his whole career you shouldn’t have to see him play 20 games at the NHL level in order to verify that, yep, that’s the same guy we’ve had in our system the past 200+ games.

Mursak wasn’t ever a legit top line forward at the AHL level, he never was all that productive, and beyond having great speed never really developed a defensive game to take overmuch advantage of it.  And he gets dinged fairly regularly, which doesn’t help.

It would have been cool to see him magically turn it on at a higher level, but he needed to do that in the role he had rather than getting born on second base and thinking he hit a double.  It’s not like he had to beat out Zeus, Apollo and Hades to get a regular spot.  Emmerton, Eaves, Miller.  If you can’t get clear of those guys, that just about says it all.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 02/23/13 at 07:39 AM ET

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