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Penguins’ Penalty Problems Cause For Concern

Last night's disappointing 6-4 Penguins loss to the Florida Panthers was one of those nights where you scratched your head and said out loud, a la Vince Lombardi, "What the hell is going on here!".

Lazy, undisciplined penalties getting called left and right.

The usually very steady penalty kill of the Penguins simply collapsing, allowing four Florida powerplay goals.

The fact that the Penguins came back from a 4-1 deficit only made the loss that much worse.

But the increasing frequency of the Penguins' trips to the penalty box should have the coaching staff concerned.

Through 20 games, the Penguins have taken 103 penalties, good for 8th in the NHL.  While that's disappointing enough, the real issue is the type of penalties they're taking, such as lazy hooking, tripping and cross-checking penalties.

What's most alarming is the frequency of times the Pens have not only been shorthanded, but down two men.

By my highly unofficial research, the Penguins have been two men down nine times through 20 games, which have resulted in six goals.

There are some caveats that need to be mentioned, to be fair:

  • It's pretty clear that the officials, at least so far this season, are much more willing to call that 2nd penalty to put the team down two men, as opposed to previous seasons.
  • I don't think I'm the only one who has no frickin' idea what constitutes a boarding call this year.
  • There's an emphasis on removing the hitting on icing calls.  The problem with that, as happened again last night, is that even when both teams think icing has been waved off, and therefore the forechecker makes a hit, he gets called with boarding.

So for as good as the Penguins' penalty kill usually is, this trend has to stop.

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Evilpens's avatar

Lack of Discipline caused by the 3 Stooges of coaching unless you are Tangradi, Vitale, or Despres/Bortuzzo you are not held accountable

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 11:08 AM ET

Evilpens's avatar

very steady PK??? it was 17th going into last nights game

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 11:08 AM ET

Tony's avatar

Well, with six of those goals coming two men short, that makes a difference, does it not?

Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 02/27/13 at 11:33 AM ET


it was disgusting once again.  I am not sure why, but you would think at this point the coaching staff would address it in some form or fashion.  It is becoming quite clear that the current cast of players on the penguins side has a very very short fuse and can be easily duped into taking a penalty.  Add that to the required 1 dumb neal penalty a game and you have yourself a recipe for a bad night.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/27/13 at 11:45 AM ET

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Yes it would make a difference But again they were 17th before last nights debacle, Sid continues to pass, pass, pass & then pass some more

Again Strait & Tangradi said basically the exact same thing when interviewed with new team, Thgat rookies & not established players are held accountable the rest are not/

& WTFF was Letang doing on the 5th goal ?? or as I like to call him LeDumb

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 11:51 AM ET

Evilpens's avatar

With Bortuzzo in the lineup they are 6-4 and lost 4 of the last 5. With Despres in the lineup they are 11-4 and won 8 of last 10. Coincidence?

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 12:03 PM ET


evilpens… its hard for any of us to take you seriously.  You seem to hate every penguin but profess to be a penguins fan.  What penguin do you actually like?

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/27/13 at 01:09 PM ET

Evilpens's avatar

I like a lot of them but Unlike you Most Pens Fans I call them as I see them

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 01:20 PM ET

Tony's avatar

So you’re saying I’m not objective…


Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 02/27/13 at 01:54 PM ET

Evilpens's avatar

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) I said MOST!! go on MB’s & see the Kool-Aid drinkers in action, I have been called a “Band Wagon” fan by pukes who weren’t even alive & Mommy & Daddy probably didn’t know each other yet!

Somewhere being a “Fan” has gotten bastardized & has become if your favorite team tells you the Sun rises in the west & sets in the East you believe them even though everyday you see the exact opposite.

I have been a Pens fan since the Mid 70’s

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 02:29 PM ET


Some of this dovetails into the referees just being more incompetent this year than in past years.

Orpik didn’t break any rule I know of.

And Kennedy…I didn’t hear anyone shout icing (which a linesman is supposed to do and can almost always be heard over the TV), there was no whislte blown when Kulikov touched the puck and both Kennedy and Kulikov seemed surprised by the call. What he did was a penalty, but he had no way of knowing that it would be.

That said, Neal took his millionth stupid penalty and Glass’ wasn’t any better.

Posted by larry on 02/27/13 at 02:36 PM ET

Evilpens's avatar

never have understood the Glass signing ! LH Craig Adams

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 02:43 PM ET

redxblack's avatar

Some of this dovetails into the referees just being more incompetent this year than in past years

Careful, you’re about to sound like a Red Wings fan!

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 02/27/13 at 03:02 PM ET

Lindas1st's avatar

Meh, it’ll all get sorted out before the playoffs…......Trust me .  cool smile

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 02/27/13 at 05:18 PM ET

Evilpens's avatar

like the last 3 seasons ??.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Posted by Evilpens on 02/27/13 at 05:23 PM ET

Flashtastick56's avatar

LeDumb?  EP…you always come up with the cutest, most clever nicknames.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 03/02/13 at 10:25 AM ET

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