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More Trade Rumours: Hemsky and Jurco

While twitter can be an excellent way to quickly get information out, it must always be read carefully and fully. One tweet in particular caused a bit of a stir today:

Ales Hemsky-Andy Sutton to Det.for Tomas Jurco and 1st round pick. Hemsky and pick to Nash.for Jonathan Blum and 1st round pick #justrumors

That came from Gene Principe, and there were at least a few of us who didn’t get to the hashtag part before reacting. The Hemsky trade part is nothing new, but should a trade for the winger go through this season it will still come as a shock.

The question that the other half of the tweet raised was of course, just what is the story with this Jurco kid?

Tomas Jurco was selected by the Detroit Red Wings 35th overall in the 2011 NHL entry draft. Jurco is a Slovakian right winger currently playing in the QMJHL for the St. John Sea Dogs.

At the World Juniors this year in Calgary, Jurco was one of the more skilled players for Slovakia and one of the reasons the team finished 6th. Although Jurco only scored one goal, he had 7 assists and a +4 rating on a team that scored only 18 goals in 6 games.

Jurco has unbelievable puck handling skills:


The Detroit Red Wings have no reason to have soured on young Jurco, and should the Red Wings look to move him, it would have to be because that it was it would take. Jurco does struggle with consistency from time to time, like many other young players. But in 36 games, Jurco has 25 goals and 29 assists.

Sometimes seeing is believing and Jurco is a youtube magician:

 


Of course this still doesn’t answer all of the questions, but you will have to take the word of the scouting reports out there, and Jurco’s ranking at the draft to know that this is one talented young up and coming hockey player with a bright future ahead of him. For a more in depth compilation of what the scouts have had to say about Jurco, George Malik did an excellent job compiling information following Jurco’s selection.

The only issue would be trading Hemsky would remove and NHLer or NHL ready player from the lineup and replace him with a player that is still a couple of years away from the NHL, even with the Oilers. There is still plenty of time to speculate about trades before the trade deadline February 27th, but the Oilers will most certainly be sellers that day.

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cainer4wingsglory's avatar

If the Wings are trading a 1st and Jurco in any deal, the player coming back better be Zach Parise or Ryan Suter…

Posted by cainer4wingsglory on 01/31/12 at 01:35 AM ET

Lisa McRitchie's avatar

I don’t think it’s very likely either, but this is the first time I’ve seen a return suggested. Usually it’s just that Detroit may be interested.

Posted by Lisa McRitchie on 01/31/12 at 01:40 AM ET

calquake's avatar

Not worth the asking price.

Posted by calquake on 01/31/12 at 01:51 AM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

The last thing the Wings need is a buffoon on skates and a pass-first winger. They already have enough of the latter.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 01/31/12 at 01:57 AM ET

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Oiler fans overvalue Hemsky just like Burke did Kaberle last year.  Detroit isn’t dumb enough to do a trade like that

Posted by Nick on 01/31/12 at 02:20 AM ET

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Actually, the possible deal for Hemsky and Sutton is way better than what the asking price was earlier in the season.  Jurco is still playing junior hockey and that is a very long way from being a can’t miss prospect in the NHL.  I would make that deal if it is for a first draft choice in, like 2015.

If this is the asking price, it will probably come down to a pair of third round draft choices, one this year and one a couple of years later.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 01/31/12 at 03:08 AM ET

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I would rather the Oil get something for Hemsky than let him walk as a UFA but their biggest need is a top 4 D-man and not another flashy forward who has consistency concerns.  Realistically no team is going to give up a top 4 D-man for a UFA unless a high end prospect is part of the package leaving the Oilers.

Posted by macandirish on 01/31/12 at 03:16 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

No. Jurco is not only a hard-working player whose upside is somewhere between Tomas Kopecky and a poor man’s Marian Hossa, but he’s also one of the increasing number of Wings prospects (cue Tomas Tatar, Gleason Fournier, etc.) who grew up as Wings fans and understand how long and hard the road to the NHL really is.

Jurco seemed to understand that to play on the same team as Pavel Datsyuk, he was facing at least three to five years of playing junior hockey and then earning a regular spot with the Grand Rapids Griffins, that he’d have to live in the gym and that he would have to embrace the monotony that is the 24/7/365 job of growing up in a hurry and becoming a professional athlete. I don’t think that the Wings want to lose him for anything less than an elite player in return, and it’s very hard to suggest that Ales Hemsky is that player right now.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 01/31/12 at 04:15 AM ET

tuxedoTshirt's avatar

Thanks George.  I hadn’t heard any of that and was wondering if this kid was the Rob Schremp type of gimmicks-first player.  Not to knock Schremp, who is no doubt looking pretty slick in the Swiss league.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 01/31/12 at 04:21 AM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

absolutely not.  not for hemsky.  parise, weber or suter…

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 01/31/12 at 04:48 AM ET

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Jurco IS UNTOUCHABLE.

Posted by BobaFett from Las Vegas on 01/31/12 at 08:20 AM ET

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I know we are all concentrating on the Hemsky part but the truly idiotic part is the idea that they would trade Jurco and a pick in any deal for Andy Sutton.  He does not seem like a fit in any way.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 01/31/12 at 11:02 AM ET

Nathan's avatar

Jurco isn’t untouchable, but these proposed (and admittedly hypothetical) deals are both bad deals for Nashville and Detroit.

Hemsky might be rejuvenated and find some extra energy going to a contending team like that, but I think the odds are just as good that he has a hard time settling in in the short window, doesn’t produce much, and as such leaves in the off-season because he won’t be worth the kind of money to the Wings/Preds that he wants. Bad idea.

As for Sutton… come on. He definitely doesn’t fit the Wings’ mold at all. And while the Wings may well be desperate for D come the offseason, right now they are actually full in back, and Brendan Smith as a late-season call-up or black ace is probably the best feasible “upgrade” they can make to the D for this year. Sutton makes more sense for the Preds perhaps, but not at that price… not when they are going to need those picks to likely draft the hopeful replacement to one of Suter/Weber.

Look at Hemsky’s career and he’s clearly more at the level of value of a 2nd round pick or a not-quite-top-level prospect.

I don’t like his game at all, but if Holland and company feel they need to add a skilled forward, and nobody else of substance is available, I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing them give up a 2nd rounder or maybe a 1st given it will be a low pick. But I hope they don’t, I think Hemsky is a bum. I’m all for Wings reclamation projects since they succeed with astonishing regularity, but why trade for him when you can make a run at getting him for “free” in the offseason?

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/31/12 at 12:05 PM ET

Lisa McRitchie's avatar

I don’t think that this is what is going to happen, but it is unfortunate that a prospect like Jurco’s name has been mentioned in the rumour. Any team would be happy to get Jurco.

Now I wish that I had devoted more attention to him at the World Juniors.

Posted by Lisa McRitchie on 01/31/12 at 12:42 PM ET

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Amazing hands, Datsyuk-esque stickhandling. Remember watching him on the Sea Dogs run last year for the Mem cup, on pace this year to shatter his totals from last year. I don’t see him being packaged in any deal unless it’s a blockbuster.

Posted by Ducksworth from Brownstown, MI on 01/31/12 at 02:31 PM ET

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Zetterberg would be traded before Jurco.  THAT is how untouchable he is.  How would I feel if the Wings trade him and (theoretically) win a cup or two, and yet see him turn into another Datsyuk for another team for 10 years?

Datsyuk was drafted 136 players LATER than Jurco.  Not that I think Jurco is Datsyuk…but he has ALOT of potential AND he’s a finisher…

Don’t forget that DeKeyser wants to join the Wings too…The Wings have lots of spare parts all of a sudden.  And the factory is shipping others soon too!

Posted by BobaFett on 01/31/12 at 04:01 PM ET

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This sounds Like wishful thinking out of Edmonton to me… Ken holland didnt get to where he is by making moves like this and I for one cant see the upside of this for the wings.

Posted by Jeff48 from woodhaven Mi on 02/11/12 at 06:48 PM ET

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