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Red Wings trade Commodore to Tampa Bay; Wings recall Smith from GR, Stuart staying

Updated 11x with Commodore’s farewell at 4:41 PM: I’m confused, per Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos: Mike Commodore’s leaving the Red Wings as they’ve trade him to Tampa Bay:

#SNtrade. #Redwings. D-man Commodore to #Lightning. Done.

Per TSN’s Bob McKenzie:

Confirming Mike Commodore from DET to TB for a conditional 7th round pick. #TradeCentre

Update: Wings’ Twitter account is confirming and per St. James:

Commodore only played 17 games, wasn’t able to dent the lineup. Became moot last week with trade for Kyle Quincey.
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#RedWings would rather see Brendan Smith in lineup if needed. Moving Commodore clears up roster spot.

Update #2: Per Commodore:

Get the #sunscreen ready… #spf70 #Tampa

Per Capgeek

The Commodore move frees up a contract on the #RedWings 50-man reserve list. They may have been at the limit depending on slides.

And MLive’s Ansar Khan:

The Detroit Red Wings have traded defenseman Mike Commodore to the Tampa Bay Lightning for a conditional seventh-round draft pick.

Commodore has been a healthy scratch the past nine games and had no chance of getting into Detroit’s lineup anytime soon after their acquisition of Kyle Quincey last Tuesday and despite Jonathan Ericsson’s broken wrist.

Jakub Kindl, who will replace Ericsson in the lineup, was ahead of Commodore on the depth chart.

The Red Wings signed Commodore, 32, to a one-year, $1 million free-agent contract on July 1. They liked his size (6-foot-4, 233) and abrasiveness. But he got injured in the preseason, enabling Kindl to run with the job as the sixth defenseman.

Commodore has played only 17 games, with no goals, one assist and 12 penalty minutes.

Update #3: Per Paul:

Per Paul, here’s KH on TSN:

Couple young players had passed Commy, Kindl and Smith.
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Smith in lineup tomorrow.
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Commie deal was known to Yzerman when Quincy deal was made.

If Holland did something he would move Commie, Yzerman said yes.

Per Khan:

Holland on TSN: Brendan Smithj recalled, will play in Columbus.
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Holland on TSN: Still looking for deal, prices steep, not sure if anything will happen.
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Holland said he’s done on defense. Still looking for a depth forward.

Per the Free Press’s Helene St. James:

Asked #RedWings General manager Ken Holland if anything else coming. Answer “Not sure.” Wings are looking for forward, but prices high
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Holland says Smith called up, will play Tuesday at Columbus
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#RedWings GM Holland says another d-man is “banged up” and might not play Tuesday, so that would mean both Kindl and Smith in. Wouldn’t ID

MY TAKE: This was a thank-you to Ken Holland for the Quincey trade and a thank-you to Commodore for being a good soldier. Now Commdore gets a chance to play regularly and extend his career, as he told Sportsnet. He’s excited about being able to play regularly and thanked KH for the opportunity. Said he loved being in Detroit and that the guys in the room prevented him from being “miserable” while playing in only 17 games, and he wasn’t sure why he didn’t get a chance to play more.

Update #4: Per Ansar Khan:

The Stuart to Rangers rumor is ridiculously false. Holland just confirmed to us he is NOT being traded.

Update #5: Here’s St. James’ text report:

In a minor move made today, the Detroit Red Wings shipped little-used defenseman Mike Commodore to the Tampa Bay Lightning.

The Wings get a conditional seventh-round pick. Commodore became extraneous last week when the Wings acquired defenseman Kyle Quincey.

The Wings signed Commodore to a one-year, $1 million deal last summer for his size, but he never was able to become a regular in the lineup. He played just 17 games, registering two points

Khan and the Wings are confirming that Smith has been called up as well.

Obvious, per NHL.com’s Brian Hedger:

#Redwings bringing up Brendan Smith and playing him Tues. Vs. CBJ. Babcock and Holland not happy with Kindl or Commodore


Update #6: Per Ted Kulfan:

Commodore to Tampa…does sthis set up another move for later? Not necessarily because the Wings are so far under the cap anyway.
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Ken Holland just said Brendan Smith will be called up and play in Columbus tomorrow nite.
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Smith and Kindl both playing tomorrow in CBJ…another d-man “dinged up” said Holland

And Khan...

Holland said he’s done on defense. Still looking for a depth forward.
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Holland said they have a couple of defensemen dinged up. Might need to recall another player from GR. Smith and Kindl will play at CBJ.
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I think Lidstrom is the player who is hurt and questionable for tomorrow. He was limping around before practice, which starts at 2 p.m.
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The Stuart to Rangers rumor is ridiculously false. Holland just confirmed to us he is NOT being traded.

: Jeff Riger of ,a href=“So, another D dinged for #Redwings and they still traded Commodore for 7th rd pick. What does that tell us about 22 in eyes of Holland/Babs?”>97.1 the Ticket,/a> with a little comic relief:

Now most people think this deal is minor and it really is, however it has the ability to become major.

Detroit, more than any team in the NHL has the ability to draft a guy deep, develop him and 3 years later have themselves a border line star that makes an impact every night. I don’t think I need to remind you that Detroit drafted Jonathan Ericsson with the last pick of the draft in 2002. It was in the 9th round with the 291st pick overall to be specific, and now Detroit has a top 5 d-man that is a plus 17 for the season.

Of course Ericsson is not the only late round success story.
Henrik Zetterberg was taken in the 7th round, the 210th overall selection in the 1999 draft. Since then, Z has become one of the best two way players in the game.

Pavel Datsyuk was taken in the 6th round, the 171st selection in 1998. Datsyuk is now not only the best forward on the Wings, but maybe in the entire league as well.

And then there is my personal favorite, the story of Tomas Holmstrom. Homer was taken in the 1994 draft with the 257th overall pick in the 10th round. Holmstrom had trouble skating and keeping up with play when he first came to the Wings. Now the Pieta, Sweden native is one of 6 Detroit players to play in over 1000 games wearing the winged wheel and is quite possibly the best “in front of the net agitator” in the game.

So to repeat, Mike Commodore has been dealt to the Lighting for a 7th round pick, a pick that very easily could be turned into one of the games next stars!

The Bolts are confirming, as is the Macomb Daily;
Here’s Sportsnet’s Commodore video:

Here’s Holland on Commodore trade/Smith recall per Ted Kulfan...

Jonathan Ericsson is out with a wrist injury, and Holland said there is another defenseman who is “dinged up,” which will lead to both Jakub Kindl and Smith in the lineup.

Holland said Kindl and Smith had moved past Commodore on the depth chart, and Commodore wanted to earn a contract for next season.

“Mike wanted to play,” Holland said. “I met with Mike after the (Kyle) Quincey deal and he was okay with staying but he wanted to play hockey. It’s an opportunity for Mike and opportunity for us. I didn’t feel right calling up Brendan Smith and passing (Commodore on the depth chart).”

Commodore, 32, signed last summer as an unrestriced free agent (one year, $1 million), played in 17 games this season with two points (both assists) while averaging 11:29 of ice time. He also had 21 penalty minutes. Commodore hurt his knee the last week of the exhibition season, wasn’t able to win a regular job, and never consistently moved into the Wings’ rotation. Smith has played in three games with the Wings this season, with two assists. He had 10 goals with the Griffins.

“We’re very high on Brendan Smith,” Holland said. “He’s young, but when the playoffs start we expect Ericsson to be healthy and we expect Kindl and Smith will be our seventh and eighth defenseman.”

Holland said he’s still talking with general managers around the league but isn’t sure another deal for a forward will be made by Monday’s trade deadline.

“We’re talking, we’ll see,” Holland said. “I’m doing a little talking, but there’s not a lot out there right now.”

And Holland per MLive’s Ansar Khan:

Detroit Red Wings general manager Ken Holland took some time out to address the media here at Joe Louis Arena about two hours before the trade deadline:

On trading Mike Commodore to Tampa Bay: “To think that Mike Commodore can play 20 games in the NHL, this year he’s played 17, and then go into the Stanley Cup playoffs, is pretty hard. Mike wanted to play. I met with Mike after the (Kyle) Quincey deal, he was OK staying but he wanted to play hockey. It’s an opportunity for Mike. I didn’t feel right bringing up Brendan Smith and having Mike Commodore being passed over by Brendan Smith.

Brendan Smith, recalled from the Grand Rapids Griffins, and Jakub Kindl will play Tuesday at Columbus. An injured defenseman, other than Jonathan Ericsson, is out. It might be Nicklas Lidstrom who was limping around before practice.

More Holland: “We want Brendan Smith to get a few games between now and end of the year. We want Jakub Kindl to play a few games between now and end of the year. If we do that, then Commodore doesn’t play.’‘

Holland on Smith: “We’re very high on Smith. He’s young, but when the playoffs start, we expect to have Jonathan Ericsson healthy. We think our seventh and eighth defensemen are going to be Jakub Kindl and Brendan Smith, also got two vets down there in Doug Janik and Garnet Exelby. When you start getting into your 10th and 11th and 12th defensemen, we’re as deep as anybody. Part of the puzzle of going of going for a long playoff run is health.’‘

Any more deals?: “We’re talking, we’ll see. There’s not a lot out there right now. We’re not doing anything on defense or goal. We’re going with what we got.’‘

On injuries on defense: “We’re going to find out today, there’s a couple of guys that are questionable, they got dinged up. Brendan Smith is going to be on the plane, if somebody else is hurt we’re going to have to call up somebody else.’‘

Here’s a bit more from St. James...

Straight from the mouth of #RedWings GM Holland: “We’re not doing anything (else) on defense and goal. We’re going with what we’ve got.”
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Per Holland: A couple of guys on defense “are dinged up” ... Will update as soon as practice begins later this afternoon if anyone absent
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Holland still exploring picking up a forward. #RedWings

Update #8: From the Windsor Star’s Bob Duff:

#redwings Holland on other deals: “We’re talking, we’ll see. There’s not a lot out there right now, we’ll see.”
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#redwings Holland on what he seeks: “We’re not doing anything on defence or goal. We’re going with what we’ve got.’‘
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#redwings will recall D Brendan Smith from #AHL Grand Rapids for Tuesday’s game at #CBJ.
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Holland felt that asking Commodore to play 20 straight GP and then SC playoffs after playing 17 all season was too much.
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Holland: Planned to play Smith ahead of Commodore. Not fair to Commodore, so he found him another place to play.
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#redwings Holland: “I didn’t feel right bringing up Brendan Smith and having Mike Commodore being passed over by Brendan Smith.”
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#redwings Holland: “We want Brendan Smith to get a few games between now and end of the year.”
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#redwings Holland: “We want Jakub Kindl to play a few games between now and end of the year.”
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Lidstrom not on ice for #redwings practice. Start the trade rumours (that’s sarcasm people).
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#redwings Lidstrom was limping badly when he arrived at rink today. Quincey also not on ice for practice.

Here’s Chuck Pleiness’s report with quotes from the Macomb Daily:

“To think that Mike Commodore can play 20 games in the NHL, this year he’s played 17, and then go into the Stanley Cup playoffs, is pretty hard,” Wings general manager Ken Holland said.
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“You can’t play 20 games and be ahead of guys on the farm team,” Holland said. “Mike wanted to play. I met with Mike after the Quincey deal, he was OK staying, but he wanted to play hockey. It’s an opportunity for Mike and it’s an opportunity for us to. I didn’t feel right bringing up Brendan Smith and having Mike Commodore being passed over by Brendan Smith,” Holland added.

Smith will be in the lineup Tuesday night against the Columbus Blue Jackets.

“Smith was on the all-rookie team last year in the AHL, he’s got 10 goals, tremendous college career,” Holland said. “We’re very high on Smith, he’s young but when the playoffs start, we expect to have Jonathan Ericsson healthy, we think our seventh and eighth defensemen are going to be Jakub Kindl and Brendan Smith, also got two vets down there in Doug Janik and Garnet Exelby. When you start getting into your 10th and 11th and 12th defensemen, we’re as deep as anybody. Part of the puzzle of going of going for a long playoff run is health.”

Holland said he’s still talking with teams about other deals.

“We’ll see,” Holland said. “There’s not a lot out there right now. We’re not doing anything on defense or goal. We’re going with what we got.”

However, more moves on defense may be necessary.

“We’re going to find out today, there’s a couple of guys that are questionable, they got dinged up,” Holland said. “Brendan Smith is going to be on the plane, if somebody else is hurt we’re going to have to call up somebody else.”

Per St. James...

Per Holland: A couple of guys on defense “are dinged up” ... Will update as soon as practice begins later this afternoon if anyone absent
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Holland still exploring picking up a forward. #RedWings
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#RedWings defensemen on ice so far: Stuart, Kronwall, Kindl, White
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Still no Nicklas Lidstrom or Kyle Quincey on the ice for #RedWings practice this afternoon

The Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan...

Ken Holland just said Brendan Smith will be called up and play in Columbus tomorrow nite.
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Smith and Kindl both playing tomorrow in CBJ…another d-man “dinged up” said Holland
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No lidstrom or quincey yet on ice
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Lidstrom and Quincey not on the ice for Wings practice that began at 2 p.m.

Pleiness confirms no Lidstrom or Quincey.

Update #9: DetroitRedWings.com’s Bill Roose’s Commodore report follows:

“Once we got Kyle Quincey we really want Brendan Smith to play,” Wings general manager Ken Holland told DetroitRedWings.com. “He’s really played good in the American Hockey League, it’s kind of hard to keep Mike Commodore around here when Brendan Smith is ahead of him, so we made a decision.”

For the second time in the last week the Wings made a traded with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Last week, the Wings acquired Quincey in a three-team deal involving the Lighting and Colorado Avalanche. Quincey was the Wings’ fourth-round pick in 2003.

Commodore, 32, had grown dissatisfied with his dwindling playing time – he last played in Phoenix on Feb. 6 – and the Lightning were looking for defensive help. In return, the Wings received a conditional seventh-round draft pick.

Though he played in just 17 games, Commodore was a solid contributor for the Wings, racking up three fights while logging 11:29 of ice-time, mainly to give breathers to legendary defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom.

“The job that Mike was in, to really think that you’re going to sit for two months and go into the Stanley Cup playoffs and play, it’s really going to be someone from Grand Rapids, somebody that’s playing every day,” Holland said. “Stanley Cup playoffs are too hard to think that you’re going to play four games in a half a year and then go into the Stanley Cup playoffs, so to be fair to Mike Commodore we traded him.”

An injury to Jonathan Ericsson (fractured wrist) in the Wings’ last game is a problem, but it will provide an opportunity for Smith and Jakub Kindl heading down the stretch and into the playoffs.

It’s expected that Ericsson will miss a month.

“I know that we have an injury to Ericsson, but Kindl is going in now,” Holland said. “And we see Brenden Smith as the next on our depth chart because he’s young, and with addition of Quincey and the development of Smith, it really effected Mike Commodore’s position on our depth chart and I don’t think it’s fair to our team and it’s not fair to him to sit him day after day after day.”

Khan via text…

Update from the Detroit Red Wings’ practice today at Joe Louis Arena, which started at 2 p.m.:

Defensemen Nicklas Lidstrom and Kyle Quincey are not skating, apparently those are the two players general manager Ken Holland said earlier today are hurting. One or both might not play in Columbus Tuesday.

Lidstrom was limping around pretty badly before practice. Will get an update after the skate.

Holland said they might have to recall another defenseman from Grand Rapids, in addition to Brendan Smith. Doug Janik would be next in the pecking order.

And Twitter:

All 12 healthy forwards on ice. Franzen skating on third line. Clearly, they’re not happy with his performance of late

Update #10: Per the Macomb Daily’s Chuck Pleiness...

Commodore “I had a great time here. If u had told me I would have played 17 games here I probably said I was miserable and I’m not.”

DetroitRedWings.com’s Bill Roose...

Former #RedWings D Mike Commodore said of his trade to @TBLightning: “At least I get a chance to play. I can go down swinging.”

And MLive’s Ansar Khan:

“It’s good,’’ Commodore told M-Live.com. “It would have been nice to see this thing through here. It’s a good team here, they got as good a chance to win as anybody else, but this is probably better for me. I get an opportunity. I never really got an opportunity here, was in and out.’‘

Commodore played only 17 games this season and had been a healthy scratch the past nine games, since Feb. 6 at Phoenix. After the team acquired Kyle Quincey last week, Commodore was bumped down to eighth on the depth chart, behind Jakub Kind. And he would have been further buried in the playoffs, behind rookie Brendan Smith.

“I played 17 games, was a healthy scratch for 30 games, that’s not going to cut it,’’ Commodore said. “I had a meeting with Kenny (general manager Holland), said I’ll see it through, ride it out. I didn’t ask for a trade. I’m fine either way. With me signing here the first day of free agency (July 1), I think that was a big reason why Ken decided to move me. There just was no opportunity here.’‘

Commodore was extremely frustrated much of this season but did not want to criticize coach Mike Babcock. He took the high ride again today.

“I enjoyed being in the dressing room, the guys, had a really good time, learned a lot even without playing,’’ Commodore said. “I’m fine. It just didn’t work out. It’s not the first team where it didn’t work out. It’s time to move on.’‘

USA Today’s Kevin Allen also analyzes the deal as follows:

Feb. 27: Lightning add Commodore

The trade: The Tampa Bay Lightning acquire D Mike Commodore from the Detroit Red Wings for a conditional seventh-round pick.

Why this trade happened: Commodore, 32, is a big, strong, shot-blocking veteran defenseman. He was a spare part in Detroit, and he might be able to play more in Tampa Bay, especially with D Victor Hedman injured (he’s day-to-day with an upper-body injury). Commodore will stand up for his teammates. The Red Wings are simply cleaning up their roster, making a place for young defenseman Brendan Smith, who was called up Monday after the deal.

Last update: Here’s what Commodore had to say via Twitter:

Get the #sunscreen ready… #spf70 #Tampa
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RT @BizNasty2point0: Hey @commie22, don’t feel bad you only got dealt for a 7th rounder. The way Detroit drafts they’ll turn that into a HOF
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@BizNasty2point0 hey thanks Biz. Makes me feel better. 7th rounder is a mid round isn’t it?
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Thanks for all the tweet folks. I appreciate it. Unexpected busy day. Although my time in the D was short I really did have a great time..
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I really enjoyed the city of Detroit, and met a lot of great people around town. I really can’t say enough about the players in that..
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locker room. Great guys and a lot of great people in the organization that I will miss. I wish then nothing but the best.
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But its time to move on. Super excited to get to Tampa and get things rolling in the state of Florida. What’s that line from #Slapshot?
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But its time to move on. Super excited to get to Tampa and get things rolling in the state of Florida. What’s that line from #Slapshot?

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DrewBehr's avatar

Basically, with the signing of Quincey, we needed to give up a contract, via waivers or a trade. With Commodore, and the desire for depth D-men around the league, we probably felt that he would be picked up if we exposed him to waivers, so we decided to get something for him instead. A 7th round pick is basically a pack of gum, but whatever.

Pretty much panned out like this:

Red Wings trade Mike Commodore, Sebastian Piche and a 1st Round Pick

Lightning trade Kyle Quincey and a 7th Round Pick

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 02/27/12 at 03:27 PM ET

SYF's avatar

reallisa Sportsnet panel discussing keeping Minnesota players at home, or bringing ‘em back. (Still bitter Joel Otto got away)

Jeebus, could they possibly be anymore incestuous in that state regarding hockey?

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 02/27/12 at 03:30 PM ET

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A 7th round pick is basically a pack of gum, but whatever.

Or Henrik Zetterberg 2.0?

Posted by Garth on 02/27/12 at 03:32 PM ET

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What the fuching hell does that treeball league have to do with the NHL???  I’m this link that The Emperor gave us and there’s this dumb news about the treeball Kings getting new financing.  Who the fuch cares???

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 02/27/12 at 03:35 PM ET

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Yzerman beefing up defensively with veteran help.  Getting shit done in TBL.  I like it.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 02/27/12 at 03:38 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

Please scroll up for updates.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 02/27/12 at 03:56 PM ET

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Please scroll up for updates.

and a scary freeze frame of Commodore in the sportsnet video LOL

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 02/27/12 at 03:57 PM ET

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Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 02/27/12 at 04:28 PM ET

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George, when your title said “Stuart Staying” I misinterpretted that as re-signing for another 5 years.  I was so happy! , Because I already knew Holland would not let him go fot the playoff run. 
Alas, there is no re-signing, so the Wings will need to replace both Stuart AND Lidstrom this summer.

Posted by w2j2 on 02/27/12 at 04:37 PM ET

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Alas, there is no re-signing, so the Wings will need to replace both Stuart AND Lidstrom this summer.

Or neither.

Posted by Garth on 02/27/12 at 04:48 PM ET

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sxm breakaway is reporting kyle quince is out with a groin injury. 3:20pm est

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 02/27/12 at 05:20 PM ET

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This deal shipping off Commodore makes perfect sense to me.  When he got hurt early on, he got behind and that is not going to make you a regular with the Red Wings.  Jan Mursak is in the same boat.  He is playing out of necessity right now.

Anyway, I wish Mike good luck in Tampa.  He is a stand up guy and was often the best defenseman when he was in Raleigh.  He and help that team down there.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 02/27/12 at 06:00 PM ET

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Commodore, 32, is a big, strong, shot-blocking veteran defenseman.
Commodore will stand up for his teammates.

We obviously do not need big, strong, shot-blocking veteran guys for the playoff run. Who will stand for his teammates now? Abdelkader? Buehler?

Posted by Alex on 02/28/12 at 01:52 AM ET

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