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Red Wings sign Ian White to 2-year deal

Updated 13x (!!!) at 8:50 PM: The Wings have made their move in terms of attempting to replace Brian Rafalski, per MLive’s Ansar Khan

The Detroit Red Wings have signed free-agent defenseman Ian White to a two-year contract for $2.875 million per season.

Details to follow.

The Macomb Daily’s Chuck Pleiness confirms.

Update #1: If you look at his stats via the Sports Forecaster, he’s no Brian Rafalski, but at 5’10” and 191 lbs, he’s decently big, right-handed and can probably put up 35 points for the Wings. He’s also a very good skater.

Now onto the back-up goaltender’s market.

Update #2: More text from Khan:

The Detroit Red Wings have signed free-agent defenseman Ian White to a two-year contract for $2.875 million per season. The Red Wings needed a puck-moving defenseman who play the point on he power play.

White, 27, played for three teams last season (Calgary, Carolina, San Jose), picking up four goals, 22 assists and 26 points in 77 games. He was a top-four defenseman for the Sharks in the playoffs, when he registered one goal and eight assists in 17 games.

He’s small (5-foot-10, 195 pounds) but plays with a bit of an edge. He actually took a slight pay cut, having made just under $3 million last season.

1. I’m guessing that the Wings will use Commodore and Kindl as the #6/7 guys, with the pair duking it out for playing time. As I said in the comments section, if the Wings want to carry 8 defensemen they’ll have Janik as the #7/8 guy (he might be moved as he has a one-way contract), and Brendan Smith is much, much better served by being the Griffins’ #1 defenseman, playing 25-30 minutes a game, than he would be by sitting in the press box and then playing for eight minutes a night when he did play for Detroit;

2. I’m also guessing that the Wings will now move onto the back-up goaltender’s market and look to add one of Ty Conklin, Marty Turco or Ray Emery. I actually like Turco in this instance;

3. It is still entirely possible that the Wings will make a move to send Hudler packing and reinforce the forward lines, but it’s pretty evident now that with both Miller and Eaves in the fold, Draper won’t be brought back because the team needs to give Jan Mursak and Cory Emmerton chances to make the team. Both would have to clear waivers to be sent down (Janik would have to clear re-entry waivers, so if he doesn’t make the team and they don’t trade him, he’ll be stuck in Grand Rapids for the season);

4. The Wings still have a boatload of cap space with which to make a move or two at the trade deadline if they feel it’s necessary to bolster the roster, which is a good thing;

5. Who would have thought that Ian White would be making LESS than Jonathan Ericsson?

Update #3: DetroitRedWings.com’s Bill Roose confirms on Twitter;

The Sporting News confirms;

Even more from Khan:

“We’ve seen him a lot in the San Jose series,’’ general manager Ken Holland told Booth Newspapers. “He can play on the power play, he’s a competitor. He’s a guy that thinks the game. He’s got the skills. We’ve got skilled defensemen in (Nicklas) Lidstrom, (Niklas) Kronwall, others, and he’s comfortable playing with them.’‘

Update #3.5: So sayeth Mike Commodore:

Thanks for the welcome to Detroit. I’m Very excited. I have lots to prove, I will be ready and raring to go come september.

Update #4: More from Pleiness:

“We got a quick, close look at him during the San Jose series,” Wings general manager Ken Holland said in a phone interview Saturday afternoon. “He really played well against us. He plays physical. He’s got skill. Competes hard.”

The Wings were in need of a puck-moving defenseman who can play the point on he power play. He was a top-four defenseman for the Sharks in the playoffs. He had one goal and eight assists in 17 games. He’s also a right-handed shot and just 27 years old.

“He’s really in his prime,” Holland said. “He’s got some skill. He’s not a big player, but he competes hard and has some hockey sense. He’s got some playoff experience. He can play on the point on the power play and he’s competitive.

“He’s a right-shot defenseman,” Holland added. “We were hoping to get a right-shot defenseman in free agency.”

Update #5: No foolin,’ per Yahoo Sports’ Nicholas J. Cotsonika on Twitter:

Interesting that the Red Wings signed Ian White. He was not high on their list, from what I heard. Sorry to say, but a backup plan.
One more thought on Ian White: Maybe two years at a cap hit of $2.875 he becomes more attractive to Red Wings in this crazy market.

With Ehrhoff, Wisniewski and Bieksa off the board, Jovanovski earning over $4 million in Florida and Tomas Kaberle probably holding out for a similar salary, I would say so.

Also, per Pro Hockey Talk’s James O’Brien:

Ian White might be part of the solution [to replacing Brian Rafalski]

Maybe the Red Wings are overpaying a bit by signing Ian White to a two-year deal worth about $5.75 million overall (or $2.875 million), but it’s not the kind of outlandish deal that will put them in a big hole in the future. Instead, the additions of White and the frugal signing of hard-hitting, red-afro’d defenseman Mike Commodore will help Detroit absorb some of the blow of losing Rafalski, even if their defense might take another step back in 2010-11.

(Unless, of course, they enjoy a certain “addition by subtraction” that comes from an aging defenseman hanging up his skates when his time had come.)

White began his career with the Toronto Maple Leafs before moving on to Calgary in 2009-10. He bounced around quite a bit last season, going from Calgary to Carolina and finally to San Jose, where he seemed to fit in very nicely. White was especially strong in the playoffs, scoring nine points in 17 postseason contests. The Sharks were probably interested in re-signing White until they traded for Brent Burns, an All-Star scoring blueliner with the Minnesota Wild. It’s likely that the Red Wings enjoyed what they saw of White during their seven-game series with the Sharks in the 2011 playoffs and decided he might be a good addition in Detroit.

Replacing Rafalski by committee

Really, the only bad contract Holland handed out was to homegrown talent Jonathan Ericsson, who simply hasn’t played well enough recently to justify his three-year, $9.75 million deal. Still, when you think about it, Ericsson and White won’t cost much more combined ($6.125 million) than Rafalski ($6 million) would have in 2011-12. The trio of Ericsson, White and Commodore probably won’t be as proficient as Rafalski is on an individual basis, but they might help the Red Wings remain playoff-relevant by committee.

That being said, the Red Wings’ future will probably come down to the usual: Lidstrom’s otherworldly play and the great work by talented forwards Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg. White simply might help to set the table for them every now and then.

That’s the concept. It’s going to be a by-committee replacement—with Ericsson stepping up and Niklas Kronwall and Brad Stuart expected to do more offensively as both showed they have another gear left to give last season.

Update #6: Here’s the Wings’ official release:


Detroit, MI… Detroit Red Wings General Manager Ken Holland announced today that the club has agreed to terms on a two-year contract with defenseman Ian White.  In accordance with team policy, additional terms of the deal were not disclosed.

White, 27, was originally a sixth round-round pick (#191 overall) of the Toronto Maple Leafs in the 2002 National Hockey League Entry Draft.  He spent two seasons in the Western Hockey League and three in the American Hockey League before making his NHL debut with Toronto in the 2005-06 season.  He was acquired by Calgary prior to the 2010 trade deadline, was traded to Carolina in November of 2010 and traded again prior to the 2011 trade deadline to San Jose where he spent the past two seasons.

The Steinbach, Manitoba native has played in 401 regular season NHL games and saw his first Stanley Cup Playoff action in 2011 with San Jose .  White appeared in 17 playoff contests this year, tallying nine points on one goal and eight assists.  His firs career playoff goal came against the Red Wings in Game 2 of the Western Conference Semifinals.

Ian White


Born Jun 4 1984 —Steinbach, MAN

Height 5.10—Weight 195—Shoots R

Selected by Toronto Maple Leafs round 6 #191 overall 2002 NHL Entry Draft

                            —- Regular Season—- ——Playoffs——

Season   Team                 Lge   GP   G   A Pts PIM GP   G   A Pts PIM


2000-01 Swift Current Broncos     WHL   69   12   31   43   24 19   1   4   5   6

2001-02 Swift Current Broncos     WHL   70   32   47   79   40 12   4   5   9 12

2002-03 Swift Current Broncos     WHL   64   24   44   68   44   4   0   4   4   0

2003-04 Swift Current Broncos     WHL   43   9   23   32   32   5   1   3   4   8

2003-04 St. John’s Maple Leafs     AHL   8   0   4   4   2 —————

2004-05 St. John’s Maple Leafs     AHL   78   4   22   26   54   5   0   2   2   2

2005-06 Toronto Marlies         AHL   59   8   29   37   42   5   1   4   5   4

2005-06 Toronto Maple Leafs       NHL   12   1   5   6   10 —————

2006-07 Toronto Maple Leafs       NHL   76   3   23   26   40 —————

2007-08 Toronto Maple Leafs       NHL   81   5   16   21   44 —————

2008-09 Toronto Maple Leafs       NHL   71   10   16   26   57 —————

2009-10 Toronto Maple Leafs       NHL   56   9   17   26   39 —————

2009-10 Calgary Flames         NHL   27   4   8   12   12 —————

2010-11 Calgary Flames         NHL   16   2   4   6   6 —————

2010-11 Carolina Hurricanes       NHL   39   0   10   10   12 —————

2010-11 San Jose Sharks         NHL   23   2   8   10   8 17   1   8   9   8


      NHL Totals                 401   36 107 143 228 17   1   8   9   8

Update #7: Hmmm, from Khan:

Holland said they are inclined to carry seven, but didn’t rule out the possibility of carrying eight.

Top prospect Brendan Smith would need an outstanding training camp and preseason, coupled with an injury, to make the team at the start of the season. If he’s not playing regularly in Detroit, he’ll be in Grand Rapids. But, the Red Wings at some point next season want Smith to spend some time with the team, particularly Lidstrom.

Veteran Doug Janik has a one-way contract but, as it turns out, he is not subject to re-entry waivers because he didn’t play in enough NHL games last season. So the Red Wings can send him down (if he clears waivers) and recall him without risking losing him on re-entry.

The Red Wings still need to sign a back-up goaltender. No move is imminent, but the club has been talking to Ty Conklin, one of the few remaining viable options.

Fox Sports Detroit’s Art Regner confirms the move:

The Detroit Red Wings’ blue-line corps and power play became a bit better Saturday when they agreed to terms with unrestricted free-agent defenseman Ian White

The contract is worth $5.75 million over two years.  White’s cap hit will be $2.875 a season.

A right-handed shot who can move the puck out of his own end, White, 27, is a very good skater with strong puck-handling skills. Although not a large man—5-foot-10, 195 pounds—White has a thick body and owns a booming shot from the point. He should be a staple on Detroit’s power-play unit.

White began last season with Calgary, was traded to Carolina and then dealt to San Jose, where he helped the Sharks reach the Western Conference final.

White played in a total of 78 games for the Flames, Hurricanes and Sharks, and had four goals, 22 assists, 26 penalty minutes and was a plus-3. In 17 playoff games, he had a goal, eight assists, eight penalty minutes and was plus-3.

To become a Red Wing, White took a slight play cut. He earned $2,999,995 last season.

White was the 191st overall pick in the 2002 NHL Entry Draft by the Maple Leafs. In 401 NHL games, White has 36 goals, 107 assists and 228 penalty minutes.

The Free Press’s Helene St. James also confirms.

Update #6.5: The Detroit News also confirms.

Update #7: DetroitRedWings.com’s Bill Roose also confirms:

The Red Wings added a second free agent defensemen when they agreed to terms Saturday afternoon with former San Jose veteran Ian White.
The 5-foot-10 White joins former Columbus blue liner Mike Commodore to join the Red Wings since the start of the NHL’s annual free agency frenzy, which began at noon Friday.

Selected by Toronto in the sixth round of the 2002 amateur draft, White has logged 401 NHL games with the Maple Leafs, Calgary Flames, Carolina Hurricanes, and Sharks.

His new two-year contact with the Wings will reportedly pay him $1.437 million per season.

White, 27, is what the Wings are looking for in a defenseman. He’s proved to be an offensive puck-moving D-man with an incredible hard shot from the point. In the last two seasons, White has bounced from Toronto to Calgary to Carolina and then San Jose. Last season, he had four goals and 22 assists in a total of 78 games with the Flames, Hurricanes and Sharks. He also blocked 144 shots and was a plus or even in 44 of the last 53 games of the regular-season.

In his first Stanley Cup playoff season, White scored a goal and added eight assists in 17 games with the Sharks. His first career postseason goal came against the Red Wings in Game 2 of the Western Conference semifinals series, which the Sharks won in seven games. He finished the playoffs with the sixth-most assists amongst NHL defensemen.

White gives the Red Wings seven NHL defensemen that they’ll take to training camp in September. Besides White and Commodore, the Wings also have defensemen Nicklas Lidstrom, Niklas Kronwall, Brad Stuart, Jonathan Ericsson and Jakub Kindl. Prospect Brendan Smith will also be given every opportunity in camp and during the exhibition season to win a spot in the Wings’ roster.

The Red Wings now have 22 players signed to approximately $55.8 million, which leaves approximately $8.4 million that the club has to work with under the salary cap.

I’m pretty sure that it’s 2 years at $2.875…Roose must have miscalculated as $1.437 is half of $2.875.

Update #8: Per the Free Press’s Helene St. James:

The Red Wings signed their second defenseman in as many days, adding Ian White this afternoon. White signed for two years and $5.75 million.

“Our defense is deeper now,” general manager Ken Holland said. “He’s another right-handed shot, he can play with skill players. He can help us out on the power play. He’s not big, but he’s good with the puck. He plays the type of hockey we have built our team to play. He competes hard.”
White is going to compete with Jonathan Ericsson for the last spot in the top four, alongside Nicklas Lidstrom, Niklas Kronwall and Brad Stuart.

On Friday, the Wings signed Mike Commodore, who brings size and grit. They’ve not got seven defensemen under contract for next season: Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart, White, Ericsson, Commodore, and Jakub Kindl. Brendan Smith, the 2007 first-round pick, is also expected to compete for a spot.

Holland said he doesn’t anticipate doing anything else on defense. The Wings remain in search of a backup goaltender.

Update #9: Even more from Khan:

“As far as skaters, we’re probably done for now,’’ Holland said. “We’ll continue to explore the market. We’re comfortable with our defense, but if something came up between now and training camp we’ll definitely explore and look at it. We got nine guys that can play in the NHL. We got depth.’‘

Holland isn’t necessarily looking to make a trade between now and camp, but he didn’t rule out the possibility.

“Teams are calling with trade ideas,’’ he said.

Update #10: Great stuff about the Wings’ defensive corps from the Macomb Daily’s Chuck Pleiness...

““(White’s) really in his prime,” Holland said. “He’s got some skill. He’s not a big player, but he competes hard and has hockey sense. He’s got some playoff experience. Commodore adds a completely different dimension,” Holland added. “He’s more of a stay-at-home defensive defenseman. He can kill some penalties. White is a skilled guy that can play with the skilled players in more offensive situations.
“The two guys that we’ve added has given us some depth,” Holland said.
“I would say yes for the most part,” Holland said when asked if they were done searching for free agent defensemen. “With the defensemen we’ve signed we’re going to camp with nine guys. We think we have pretty good depth and different dimensions. We’ll continue to explore over the summer,” Holland added. “Teams are calling with trade ideas. But if we go to camp with the defensemen we’ve got we’re very comfortable.”

Holland has realistic expectations of White production-wise….

“His point totals are about 30 a year so he can generate some attack from the backend,” Holland said.

And Pleiness confirms that the Wings are looking at one particular back-up goaltender:

“Obviously that’s our top priority over the next few days,” Holland said. “We’re not close on anything.”

Holland said that he had been in talks with a possible backup, but he felt that goalie was going in a different direction. A source told The Macomb Daily the Wings have been talking with Ty Conklin, one of the few remaining viable options.

“You’re always looking to upgrade,” Holland said. “Are we comfortable once we get a goalie signed going into training camp? Yes. But we’d also like to upgrade if we could.”

Update #11: Here’s Holland talking to the AP’s Larry Lage:

“Ian is a skilled defenseman, who makes tape-to-tape passes and competes hard with a good hockey sense,” Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said Saturday, the second day of NHL free agency. “He can play on point on power play and gives us a right-handed shot.”

White has 36 goals and 143 points in 401 NHL games with San Jose, Carolina, Calgary and Toronto. The native of Manitoba had nine points in 17 postseason games with the Sharks last season in his first playoff appearance.

Detroit has retained defensemen Nicklas Lidstrom and Jonathan Ericsson along with forwards Patrick Eaves and Drew Miller this offseason.

The Red Wings signed defenseman Mike Commodore on Friday.

“Now that we have White, we feel really good about our depth on defense,” Holland said.

Detroit might not make another major move this offseason, but Holland does have to sign a backup goaltender - perhaps Chris Osgood - and decide whether to bring back forward Kris Draper.

Update #12: I guess we’ll just continue the discussion via the Detroit News’s John Niyo, who suggests that Holland essentially dodged a bullet by stepping aside on Friday:

Instead of over-spending to fill needs, Holland did largely what I expected him to do, re-signing Jonathan Ericsson with a hope that’ll he’ll continue to grow into a top-four role on the blueline. Up front, the Wings’ GM re-signed two of his own pending free agents, Patrick Eaves and Drew Miller. And the only other NHL roster addition the Wings made July 1 was signing veteran Mike Commodore, a stay-at-home defenseman who’ll add depth and a physical presence.

What about Brian Rafalski’s replacement? Well, in some respects, that’ll be Ericsson. But the Wings made another smart, solid addition Saturday, landing defenseman Ian White, who looked pretty good in a top-four role with San Jose in the playoffs. He’s 27, skates and moves the puck well and boasts a big right-handed shot that’ll help the power play. And if you’re keeping score, Ericsson and White (two years, $5.75 million) combined will make about the same $6 million a now-retired Rafalski would’ve made this season. (White even took a slight paycut from his 2010-11 salary, which makes him an unusual bargain in this marketplace.)

Now then, the fans in Detroit are accustomed to thinking much bigger when it comes to the Wings and their payroll and the Fourth of July weekend.

For years, they were able to solve the few problems they had in free agency, spending freely and, at times, recklessly. But that was before the 2004-05 lockout ushered in the salary-cap era. Now, a problem solved in free agency one year often creates a bigger problem — or two or three — elsewhere the next. And that’ll certainly be the case for some of the teams that spent wildly Friday.

Holland may not have solved all the Wings’ problems this weekend. I think he would’ve liked to unload Jiri Hudler and found another top-six forward with better wheels and more consistent motor. But there’s still most of a full season to see how it all shakes out before making an aggressive move, if needed, at the trade deadline.

In the meantime, say this about Holland: He kept his word. And his sanity.

Update #13: Two more. First, USA Today’s Kevin Allen has this to say about the Wings’ signing…

5:10 p.m.: White to Red Wings

The Red Wings were shut out of the bidding for other free agents because of the high prices. But they landed Ian White for $5.75 million over two years. He will be counted on to provide some of the offense lost when Brian Rafalski retired. Like Rafalski, he’s a puck-possession type of defenseman. The Red Wings are still looking for a backup goalie.

And here’s the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan weighing in:

“He’s a guy who skill, and he plays with an edge,” general manager Ken Holland said. “We saw a lot of him in the playoffs against San Jose. He can play on the power play. He fits with our team. We like the depth we have on defense, adding White’s skills and the size of Commodore. We’re nine deep on defense.”

White plays a game similar to the retired Brian Rafalski; he’s a good passer and valuable on the power play. Both White and Commodore are right-handed shots, something the Wings didn’t have two days ago. White has played in 401 NHL games. He was drafted in the sixth round by Toronto in 2002. His career totals are 36 goals, 107 assists and 228 penalty minutes. He is a native of Steinbach, Manitoba.

White and Commodore join Nicklas Lidstrom, Niklas Kronwall, Brad Stuart, Jonathan Ericsson, Jakub Kindl, Brendan Smith and Doug Janik on the blue line. Holland is likely to keep seven defensemen. Smith and Janik probably will start in Grand Rapids unless there is an injury in the preseason.

Holland said he’s probably done adding skaters, but goaltending remains an issue. The Wings are debating whether to re-sign veteran Chris Osgood, or go in another direction to back up Jimmy Howard. Former Red Wing Ty Conklin remains unsigned on the free-agent market. Osgood, 38, missed most of last season after groin surgery.

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Hello, top 4 defenseman who can pass. Reading through TSN’s preview column, this is the guy who seemed to be a fit, the main concern being size (but Rafalski wasn’t big either), if I read the different eval’s on him correctly.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/02/11 at 05:28 PM ET


I guess this makes Kindl #7 and Brendan Smith as the #1 call-up?

Posted by Garth on 07/02/11 at 05:32 PM ET


Oh, here’s the TSN link to Scott Cullen’s column. If the order on the list is his personal ranking, he’s third among defensemen:

Ian White, D, San Jose
TSN.ca Rating: 67.26
Stats 4-22-26, +3, 26, 78 GP
‘10-‘11 Cap Hit: $3.0M
Comment: Even though he’s undersized, has established himself in a top-four role.


Now, breath a sigh of relief, under $3 million at that.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/02/11 at 05:32 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

I thought Kindl had been promised a spot on the team this year…

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 07/02/11 at 05:33 PM ET

EDJ's avatar

That’s seven defensemen now without Smith or Janik. Unless one of them is dealt in a trade, it’ll be interesting to see who sits in the press box. We probably won’t see Smith this year except on injury recall. At least we have all right depth now:


Posted by EDJ on 07/02/11 at 05:35 PM ET

HockeyTownTodd's avatar

White’s stats look pretty good.  His only (-) season was 16 games with CGY, very light on penalties and 1/6 of his goals were GW’ers.  A lot of years left in his career, could turn out to be a keeper.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 07/02/11 at 05:36 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

He shoots the puck, he’s a good skater and he’s got a bit of a mean streak from time to time.

Kindl and Commodore will have to battle it out for the #6 spot, and Janik will be our #7/8 guy.

After that, it’s better for Smith to play 25-30 minutes in Grand Rapids as the team’s #1 defenseman instead of playing 8 minutes for 20 games up here.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/02/11 at 05:37 PM ET

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White’s no Rafalski—we’re looking at someone who can post 30-35 points—but he’s a solid interim replacement.

Now the Wings will go after a back-up goalie and may trade Hudler yet.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/02/11 at 05:37 PM ET


The #16 free agent overall per The Fourth Period:

Ian White, D (SJ)
2010-11 Salary Cap Hit: $2.999 million | Age: 28
A solid, roller-coaster season for White, who split time between Calgary and Carolina before joining the Sharks.

White won’t be returning to San Jose. He’s one of the few solid UFA defensemen still available and that’ll help his wallet.


Posted by Bugsy on 07/02/11 at 05:38 PM ET

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And where does he play?  I like White, but putting Kindl to #7 is a drag. I thought he was pretty good at seasons end. He might be better than E.

Posted by duhduhduh on 07/02/11 at 05:38 PM ET

Lindas1st's avatar

Good deal, no?

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 07/02/11 at 05:38 PM ET

Chet's avatar

it’s a good signing. white has decent wheels.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 07/02/11 at 05:39 PM ET


I thought Kindl had been promised a spot on the team this year…

He’ll be on the team, #6/7…

Posted by Garth on 07/02/11 at 05:40 PM ET


For that kind of money, it’s a no-brainer.

Posted by godblender on 07/02/11 at 05:41 PM ET


Sorry George, if I gave the impression that he’s Rafalski’s equivalent, but I was hoping all along he’d be the inexpensive interim replacement once we saw the ridiculous salaries from yesterday.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/02/11 at 05:41 PM ET


That’s two right-handed shots on the blueline now, too.


Posted by Garth on 07/02/11 at 05:42 PM ET

Da lil Guy's avatar

He had a weird year last year, but 30+ points probably isn’t out of sight for him if he finds some stability and stays healthy.

Posted by Da lil Guy from Guelph, Ontario on 07/02/11 at 05:43 PM ET

bdos's avatar

It looks like he took a bit of a pay cut to come here. I think he definitely has some upside playing in the Red Wing’s system. I like this signing.

Posted by bdos from Columbus, OH on 07/02/11 at 05:44 PM ET

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I sure do hope Big Rig will learn how to use his 6’4 frame from RedFro and learns some things from Ian White.. Not sure what the D Pairings will be..

Posted by RorSchach from Datsberg on 07/02/11 at 05:44 PM ET

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I feel a trade coming.  Just feel it in my bones.  Uncle Mike may get his forward yet…

Just doesn’t feel right that Kindl and/or Commodore might be the #7.

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 07/02/11 at 05:51 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Another great signing.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/02/11 at 05:56 PM ET


The more I think about it, this was an absolute fuching steal of a deal for the Wings considering the FA landscape this year. Major props to Kenny. I think he’s working on a trade for a forward, as well.

Posted by godblender on 07/02/11 at 05:58 PM ET

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I think that both White and Commodore will be in the lineup. No way they get Comms with his big size and nastiness and not have him play.. Just my thought. And I do smell a trade brewing. I just don’t know who.

Posted by RorSchach from Datsberg on 07/02/11 at 06:00 PM ET

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I feel a trade coming.  Just feel it in my bones.  Uncle Mike may get his forward yet…

Just doesn’t feel right that Kindl and/or Commodore might be the #7.

Posted by MsRedWinger from Florida, wishin’ I was back in the Mitten on 07/02/11 at 04:51 PM ET

Maybe moving Happy but I don’t see us moving any of the defensemen we’ve now got stockpiled.  I think the past two years have proven that we can never have enough of them.  Plus we still have a bucketful of cap space.

Posted by Krononymous on 07/02/11 at 06:02 PM ET

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Hey George, where do the wings sit right now with the cap.
Still looking for a sniper and Jimmy’s back-up.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 07/02/11 at 06:03 PM ET


No way they get Comms with his big size and nastiness and not have him play.

This is what I Think is the genius of these two signings.  With this, the top 5 are set and it gives Commodore and Kindl both the motivation to push themselves and win that #6 spot.  Commo makes a million and Kindl makes $883K, so from a cap POV it makes little difference which one plays and which one sits.

Posted by Garth on 07/02/11 at 06:04 PM ET


According to CapGeek, Det still has around $7 mi left in available cap space….jesus.

Posted by godblender on 07/02/11 at 06:06 PM ET


Still looking for a sniper and Jimmy’s back-up.

Capgeek puts them at $57M and change, just over $7M in space, and that includes the (hopefully getting traded) Hudler.

Posted by Garth on 07/02/11 at 06:06 PM ET

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Great signing, this will really help soften Rafa’s retirement. Two years is also the perfect eval period because I could see White turning into a keeper if he works out in DET.

Commodore continues to say all the right things, I’m hoping that he follows through. A Kronwall-Stuart-Commodore trifecta means we now have at least one nasty Dman on each pairing, or the possibility of loading up with Kronner-Stuie, Stuie-Commie, or Kronner-Commie pairings as needed.

Posted by thethirdcoast from Rochester, NY on 07/02/11 at 06:10 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Hurrah!  Flag Day in Curacao is saved!

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/02/11 at 06:10 PM ET

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. I think he’s working on a trade for a forward, as well.

And who is left?

Posted by duhduhduh on 07/02/11 at 06:10 PM ET


I watched him when he was in Raleigh.  He was the best blueliner on the club by a long way.  He is responsible in his own end.  Is a fine standup defenseman and I like them a lot as they all play much bigger than they are.  He has a decent shot and will be on the power play.  He can pass, he can carry the puck, he can skate.  I said last year that I wanted him.

The downside is that he is relatively small.  That should not be a problem as the Red Wings defense has gotten a whole lot bigger in the last few weeks. 

I also think he wants to play in Detroit.  Why else, in this inflationary time would he have taken a pay cut?

The rumor around this part of the world was that he was difficult to coach and not always the best in the locker room.  I presume that Ken Holland has done due diligence. 

Of course, I remember that Sean Avery started out with the Red Wings.  Good Gawd!  That is a scary thought.


Posted by DocF from Reidsville, NC on 07/02/11 at 06:15 PM ET


Ok, I have been complaining for a while, but I like this signing also.I am also impressed about his salary! With all the craziness going around, this is a good deal! Now, I also hope Holland has one more rabbit in his hat!

Posted by Meg on 07/02/11 at 06:20 PM ET

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What I like most about the signings so far is that none is for a long term.

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 07/02/11 at 06:20 PM ET


Doc, I know what you’re saying about White and the rumors of his fitting in, but he did take a pay cut—hopefullly that’s a good sign in itself.

2012 UFA’s?


Posted by Bugsy on 07/02/11 at 06:25 PM ET

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I dig it Kenny.  You may now enjoy your 4th.  Oh and…

Ian White Rumors (E4)
“Devils and Canucks interested”
- Eklund

Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 07/02/11 at 06:34 PM ET

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Definitely a good signing by Kenny.  Since Toronto Ian White has always been one of my favorite dmen to root for.  He may be undersized but he brings an edge to his game that the Wings backend so desperately needed.  I can see him sliding into the #4 slot very quickly if Big E fails to step up his game.

Posted by topshelf14 from Detroit, MI on 07/02/11 at 06:39 PM ET

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2012 UFA’s?

Better than this year, although in all probability Grabovski, Sharp, Parise and Burns won’t make it to free agency. Suter and/or Rinne will probably be dealt at the deadline if Nashville can’t resign them.  That basically leaves you with Hemsky, Semin and a couple of mediocre defensemen; basically this year’s free agency.

Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 07/02/11 at 06:41 PM ET

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White is a very good puck mover from the defensive zone. And that is something the Wings will sorely need after next year, when That Which Must Not Be Talked About finally happens.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 07/02/11 at 07:02 PM ET

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I can see him sliding into the #4 slot very quickly if Big E fails to step up his game.

Posted by topshelf14 from Hockeytown, USA on 07/02/11 at 05:39 PM ET

Let’s give White the #4 spot now. Why wait for the inevitable?

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 07/02/11 at 07:04 PM ET

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