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Hall Of Fame Inductions Announced

Today the 2012 Hockey Hall of Fame inductees were announced.  There was a strong class of first year eligible players including Curtis Joseph, Claude Lemieux, Jeremy Roenick, Joe Sakic, Brendan Shanahan and Mats Sundin.  There is also a strong group of players held over from other seasons as well in Dave Andreychuk, Pavel Bure, Phil Housley, Sergei Makarov, Adam Oates and others.  Since only four players can be inducted in any given year it is a given that some people passed over this year will be inducted in the future.  The four selected this year are Pavel Bure, Adam Oates, Joe Sakic and Mats Sundin.  No other people were inducted as builders, referees or female players.

As for the inductees, three of these four were my picks.  I would have selected Brendan Shanahan in place of Pavel Bure, but the other three selections are good ones.  Shanahan will be inducted in the near future

Though I am not surprised Bure is an inductee, I don’t think he belongs in the hall.  He was a player who was clearly on a Hall of Fame track but knee injuries and a season lost to hold out kept him from completing that career.  I will write an upcoming post explaining why I don’t like Bure as a Hall of Fame inductee.

The others I fully support.  Here was the post I wrote when Joe Sakic retired.  Here was my post when Mats Sundin retired and my post when I first considered Sundin a Hall of Famer.  I have no such posts for Adam Oates as he retired before I began blogging but I think he is a Hall of Famer who waited too long for induction.  This has been a great day for Oates, not only was he inducted into the Hall of Fame he also became coach of the Washington Capitals.  I will write posts in the future explaining my Hall of Fame arguments for these three as well.

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PSH, if you have time, I would be interested in hearing your take (maybe in its own blog post) on three modern players known for bright but short and injury-plagued NHL careers—Bure, Forsberg and Lindros. I know you think Bure should be out and Forsberg should be in. Not sure what your take on Lindros is, but I don’t think I’ve seen him on any of your lists.

Different players, from pure sniper (Bure) to pure playmaker (Forsberg) to a more balanced profile (Lindros), but all three wind up pretty close to one another offensively, and the rankings change depending on what metrics you use—goals (Bure, Lindros, Forsberg); points (Forsberg, Lindros, Bure); goals created (Lindros, Bure, Forsberg), etc.

Despite scoring 106 more total points, Forsberg actually dips a little below Bure in terms of both raw and adjusted goals created (using Hockey Reference’s formula), though I think it likely that GC underrates the value of Forsberg’s assists. Lindros probably suffers a bit because his best season statistically came during the lockout-shortened 1994-95 campaign.

I do have my opinions, but I think there’s a lot of room for argument with these three guys—especially between Bure and Forsberg, which is a classic setup of whether you prefer raw point totals (which greatly favor Forsberg) or goals (which greatly favor Bure) or some kind of weighting system like GC (which puts them very close to one another).

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 06/27/12 at 01:10 PM ET

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