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from Josh Lile at WFAA,
The discussion that will never die keeps…not dying. This time we can blame Marc Bergevin of the Montreal Canadiens for lighting the cigarette near the gas leak by trading P.K. Subban for the probably washed up Shea Weber. (Special shout out to the man who traded Tyler Seguin for also trading Taylor Hall at almost the exact same time. What a stroke of good fortune for Peter Chiarelli.)
Today’s choose-your-own-adventure is built around the word “culture.” Culture is important. Culture isn’t important. Maybe culture is important, but overrated. You can’t measure culture, so leave the narrative-building to the neophytes. Narrative, analytics, culture, character, suffering, hammer, thumb, pain: the rabbit hole has no recognizable end point.
What do we actually know about culture?
We know culture as this mysterious “other” dimension that somehow dictates the inner-workings of major organizations. It’s often portrayed as something that just exists. “Hey the culture is here guys. Wait…you. You’re messing it up. Go away.” Culture is grossly oversimplified or misunderstood often, I think, largely because most people will never have to actively think about how to establish or tweak an environment for a large group of rotating people.
from Jack Todd at the Montreal Gazette,
It’s time to chill out, take a deep breath, keep things in perspective. After all, we didn’t just vote to leave the EU and hurl an entire continent into chaos.
What happened in Montreal late Wednesday afternoon is that a hockey player was traded. A great hockey player, much loved by a significant portion of the fan base was traded for another great player.
The sad part is why P.K. Subban was traded. He is gone today because the Canadiens always wanted Floyd Patterson — and they got Muhammad Ali. They wanted shy and humble, they got brash and confident. I remember when Subban first showed up at camp as a second-round pick, talking like a cross between Ali and Johnny (the Ordinary Superstar) Rodgers.
Even then, the Canadiens seemed uncomfortable with their young prodigy. And even then, you could sense that, like Ali and Rodgers, Subban was going to walk the walk.
But the Canadiens spent the past six seasons trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. They stuck him with some of the most conservative coaches in the business and when (predictably) it didn’t work out, it was Subban who was gone, not the coach.
In hockey terms, it might work in the short term — but no one wanted to hear that on Wednesday. It was all about P.K. Subban departing for Nashville, not about Shea Weber coming to Montreal.
Habs fans react...
from John Meagher of Hockey Inside/Out,
from Pat Hickey of the Montreal Gazette,
The Canadiens threw P.K. Subban under a Greyhound bus headed to Nashville.
In a deal which lent credence to the rumours that Subban’s larger than life personality was a problem in the Montreal dressing room, the Canadiens traded him to the Nashville Predators Wednesday for defenceman Shea Weber.
“Obviously, it’s a bit surreal but it happened.” Subban said in a conference call.
While Subban was diplomatic enough not to criticize the Canadiens, he hinted that the situation was less than ideal in Montreal.
“I’m just happy to be in a situation where I can excel and feel good about myself coming to the rink,” he said. He went on to say that he felt closer to winning a Stanley Cup in Nashville.
Earlier in the day, he tweeted that it was good to go to a team that wanted him. He said he felt embraced by the Montreal fans from the time he was drafted in 2007, but skirted around his relationship with the team other than to say: “They paid me a lot of money two years ago.”
In one respect, it’s a trade of equals. Both are all-stars and while Subban has won the Norris Trophy as the best defenceman in the NHL, Weber has been a finalist on two occasions.
added 6:35pm, Below, Watch Subban on the trade....
added 4:18pm, Montreal release is below...
The San Jose Sharks defeated the Nahsville Predators 5-0 in Game 7 of their Western Conference Semifinal, and as such, San Jose advances to the Western Conference Final, where they'll play the Blues beginning Sunday.
Joel Ward's 2-0 goal and Logan Couture's 3-0 goal are indicative of how the game went for Nashville in their own zone--quite poorly, especially if your names were Shea Weber or Roman Josi:
via the Nashville Predators,
While undercover, Shea Weber and Roman Josi interview unsuspecting passersby about themselves.
from Josh Cooper of Yahoo,
We give five reasons why Nashville should trade Weber, at least at some point within the next year.
1. The offers will be ridiculously in Nashville’s favor
His $7.857 million salary cap hit, while less awful in today’s post 2012-13 lockout world, is a lot. Also, some teams have the money, and the lunacy, to part with multiple good, young NHL-ready forwards Nashville needs. Weber is a physical speciman and cornerstone defenseman, but his perceived value, especially amongst old boys GMs, may be greater than his actual worth. Many probably still drool over this 2010 Olympics shot where the puck went through the net on a goal.
The Oilers under former general manager Craig MacTavish always seemed to be hot after Weber. And he’s the type of player the current Edmonton group could use with Connor McDavid coming in. Wait, how would Weber ever allow a trade to EdmonHoth? Oh yeah, the Predators didn’t give him any no-trade clause. So they can deal him to whatever team they want.
And new Oilers general manager Peter Chiarelli has seemed OK with dealing good, young forwards at points of his career. If you’re going to trade the face of your franchise, you need to make sure you get the right pieces back. There are teams that have the type of NHL-ready young talent who can step in and score right away – like again, Edmonton.
From the NHL:
NHL ANNOUNCES 2014-15 ALL-STAR TEAMS
LAS VEGAS (June 24, 2015) -- Left wing Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals, who earned his seventh career berth on the First All-Star Team, heads the list of players voted to the 2014-15 National Hockey League postseason All-Star Teams. Also a three-time honoree on the Second Team, Ovechkin’s 10 career postseason All-Star Team selections are the most among active players.
Six of Ovechkin’s seven career First Team berths have come at left wing (he was voted to the First Team at right wing in 2012-13). The only left wings in NHL history with more First Team selections are Bobby Hull (10) and Ted Lindsay (eight).
Joining Ovechkin on the First Team are three first-time selections: goaltender Carey Price of the Montreal Canadiens, center John Tavares of the New York Islanders and right wing Jakub Voracek of the Philadelphia Flyers. The squad also features a pair of defensemen who have been selected to the First Team for the second time, Erik Karlsson of the Ottawa Senators and P.K. Subban of the Montreal Canadiens.
Among those named to the Second Team is Pittsburgh Penguins center Sidney Crosby, voted to his fifth career postseason All-Star berth (3 First Team, 2 Second Team). Defensemen Drew Doughty of the Los Angeles Kings and Shea Weber of the Nashville Predators both have landed a spot on the Second Team for the second time, while Dallas Stars left wing Jamie Benn, Minnesota Wild goaltender Devan Dubnyk and St. Louis Blues right wing Vladimir Tarasenko are making their first career appearance on the Second Team.
Voting for the All-Star Team is conducted among representatives of the Professional Hockey Writers’ Association at the end of the regular season.
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The Nashville Predators announced Friday that Captain Shea Weber will miss the remainder of the club’s Western Conference Quarterfinal series against the Chicago Blackhawks due to a lower-body injury the defenseman suffered in Game Two of the series. However, contrary to erroneous broadcast and media reports over the last 24 hours, he did not suffer an ACL injury. Further updates will be provided as they become available.
Video of how the injury happened is below...
From ESPN's Scott Powers:
Predators defenseman Shea Weber left Game 2 of the team's Western Conference first-round series against the Chicago Blackhawks with a lower-body injury in the second period and did not return, Nashville announced.
Weber left the game after he was checked into the boards by the Blackhawks' Brandon Saad at 10:49 of the second period. The Predators captain fell to the ice, was slow to get up and skated to his team's bench. He played 16 shifts and 13:25 of ice time before leaving. He had an assist on a goal in the first period. The Predators went on to win 6-2.
Here's the incident from We All Bleed Redd:
Among the Toronto Sun's Steve Simmons' mostly Maple Leaf and/or Toronto-centric Sunday sports notes:
Mark Giordano’s season-ending injury has complicated voting for the Norris Trophy. Somehow, between Shea Weber, Drew Doughty, the alleged embellisher P.K. Subban, Ryan McDonagh, the re-emerging Erik Karlsson and Duncan Keith, it’s a tough ballot to figure out. Said a pro scout: “If I’m voting the first half of the season, I’m voting Giordano. If I’m voting the second half, I’m taking Karlsson. He’s back skating like he was before injury. But if I’m voting for the whole season, Weber is the pick. He does everything well."
The Minnesota Wild are 14 games over .500 with Devan Dubnyk in goal and nine games under .500 in games he hasn’t played. The Coyotes were two games over .500 in games Dubnyk played in Arizona and are now 31 games under .500 without him. Can you say Hart Trophy candidate — just after Carey Price?
Mike Santorelli has been a disaster in Nashville thus far: He has one assist in 14 games with the Predators. No doubt he’s regretting walking away from that multi-year offer in Toronto.
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Tyler Myers barely put some sweat on his new Winnipeg Jets sweater when late in the game, he decided to stand in front of a Shea Weber shot. And why quick to learn why that’s a bad idea.
Below, Myers talks post-game, saying his leg went dead but he is ok. Myers also talked about playing for the Winnipeg Jets.
From the NHL:
NHL ANNOUNCES 2013-14 ALL-STAR TEAMS
LAS VEGAS (June 24, 2014) -- Center Sidney Crosby of the Pittsburgh Penguins and defenseman Zdeno Chara of the Boston Bruins, who each earned his third career berth on the First All-Star Team, head the list of players voted to the 2013-14 National Hockey League postseason All-Star Teams. Crosby received First Team honors for the second consecutive season, while Chara earned a spot on the First Team for the first time since 2008-09.
Joining Crosby and Chara are two second-time selections to the First Team, right wing Corey Perry of the Anaheim Ducks and defenseman Duncan Keith of the Chicago Blackhawks. The squad also features two first-time recipients, left wing Jamie Benn of the Dallas Stars and goaltender Tuukka Rask of the Bruins.
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As noted during the GM's meetings post, ESPN's Pierre LeBrun tends to issue a set of "Rumblings" in conjunction with an episode of TSN's Insider Trading, and that is most certainly the case this evening. TSN's Darren Dreger, James Duthie and LeBrun spent three-and-a-half minutes discussing hot topics, and TSN conveniently provided a transcript of the video.
The Stanley Cup Final is on but GM's are already focusing about next season. We expect Brad Richards to be bought out by the New York Rangers - what about Mike Richards by L.A.?
Darren Dreger: Well the Los Angeles Kings don't plan on buying out Mike Richards because then they would have to replace him. But Mike Richards doesn't want to be a fourth-line centre next year for the Kings. The Kings are expected to push Richards in the off-season to improve his conditions and get a little bit stronger. But we also know that Richards is a strong and confident young man and he may not want to follow the path that the Kings want him to follow. So this could get very interesting.
Is current Philadelphia Flyer Vincent Lecavalier soon to be an ex-Flyer?
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Because I'm a Wings blogger who constantly gets questions about Shea Weber, and I'm sure other fan bases are doing the same presently due to Weber's "gigantic, gigantic, gigantic, a big big love's" worth of d*** Flyers-engineered contract strain.
As such, I want you to read what Nashville Predators GM David Poile had to say to the Canadian Press's Stephen Whyno after the GM's meetings today:
One defenceman is absolutely not going anywhere, and that's Nashville's Shea Weber, who has 12 years left on a US$110-million contract.
"We're keeping him, we're building our franchise around him," Predators GM David Poile said. "I think we've got one of the best young defences in the league. I think he's got an excellent chance of winning the Norris Trophy in 11 or 12 days from now. Why wouldn't we build our team around him? That's exactly what we're doing.
"We just need one or two forwards and when we get that, you'll be saying, 'Imagine that someone ever thought they would trade Shea Weber?' No, we are not trading Shea Weber.''
Whyno continues, discussing Jason Spezza's trade demands and Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon's plans for the #1 overall draft pick.
Updated 2x at 9:19 PM: Paul did a helluva job of covering the "gist" of the GM's meetings, but here are some items that I noticed on Twitter and feel merit mentioning, starting with Craig Custance's chat with Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman...
In Penguins and Maple Leafs news, from Sportsnet's Chris Johnston...
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Here in Metro Detroit, Fox Sports Detroit color commentator Mickey Redmond dropped something of a bombshell in suggesting that the Wings should pursue Shea Weber, but the Nashville Predators' captain would all but cost the moon, the stars, the sun, an arm, a leg and all the horses in the barn--and the barn--to acquire.
With the Predators in something of a rebuild after having fired Barry Trotz, the Tennessean's Josh Cooper examined the concept of the Predators trading Weber and his enormous contract (gigantic, humongous big lockout-proof signing bonuses included), and he spoke with everyone from a Vanderbilt sports economics professor to Sportsnet's Mark Spector, NHL.com's Dan Rosen and the Hockey News's Ken Campbell about such a deal, and their conclusion isn't going to warm the hearts of those who believe that the Predators might be tempted to move big #6:
via the Nashville Predators,
Find out why we think Shea Weber should be in the running for the Norris trophy.
from Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal,
I know Weber’s the face of the Predators, but I also know if the future Hall of Famer Pronger can be traded, so can Weber.
I also know Oilers president of hockey ops Kevin Lowe LOVES Weber. Weber is in his prime, he’s 235 pounds, only Zdeno Chara shoots the puck as hard, and Z stands in front of the net on the Boston powerplay now.
So Weber, who probably has at least seven more years as an elite defenceman, currently pounds it better than anybody else.
If you were the Oilers and Weber was in play, what would you be willing to give up?
Would you consider trading Taylor Hall or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Weber? I can’t fathom the Predators not asking for either Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or Taylor Hall, who might get 80 points this season, in any package for Weber.
Would that be a non-starter for the Oilers or is Weber, in his prime, too good to pass up, no matter the cost?
from John Manasso of Fox Sports Tennessee,
With defenseman Shea Weber getting hotter and hotter since the middle of December, Nashville Predators coach Barry Trotz has increasingly begun making the case for Weber to win the Norris Trophy, given to the NHL's top defenseman.
In recent weeks Weber has almost single-handedly powered the Predators back into the playoff race — his three-point game at Philadelphia on Jan. 16 and two-goal game last Friday against New Jersey stand out as prime examples of his singular contributions in victories — all of which has lent more credence to Trotz's claims while also providing some food for thought.
Unless the Predators make the playoffs, Weber will have a hard time winning the Norris. However, if Nashville does make the playoffs, is it possible that Weber is worthy of an even larger prize? Perhaps he is an even better candidate for the Hart Trophy.
The Edmonton Journal's "Hockey World" columns now hit the web as a set of blog entries, and Paul covered this week's first entry, which discusses the play of Los Angeles Kings goaltender Ben Scrivens. Overnight, Matheson posted a slate of "Short Shifts" and a "This 'n' That" entry, and the former offers bite-sized observations in the, "I was thinking that, too!" department...
An NHL pro scout, after watching the Buffalo Sabres, said: “Ryan Miller is about all they’ve got. He’s playing unreal.” So where do the Sabres send the goalie at the trade deadline? Are the New York Islanders on his list of teams he’d play for? Are the Nashville Predators, if Pekka Rinne is out for longer than they thought?
- I find it interesting that the NHL was dead-set against those 12-year contracts for players, making a term of eight years for their own free agents and seven years for another team’s players the maximum, but jumped for joy when Rogers came up with the same 12-year, $5.2-billion TV deal.
- Defenceman Shea Weber will have a visor on when he returns to the lineup. The hockey gods smiled on him when David Perron’s shot hit the Nashville Predators’ captain around his right eye. He escaped major injury. Why any D-man would ever go without a visor is a mystery to me, with all the errant pucks. Marc Staal also got lucky last year when Kimmo Timonen’s deflected shot nailed him.
- Tri-City Americans goalie Eric Comrie, Mike’s younger half-brother, has a routine at every stoppage where he comes to the bench and gets down on one knee, away from the other players, a la Tim Tebow. “It’s always the same place. I do some breathing exercises, trying to maintain my energy,” said Comrie.
It continues as well.
The Nashville Predators say Shea Weber is day-to-day after taking a shot near his right eye last night.
from Adam Proteau of The Hockey News,
Anytime an NHL team trades away a fantastic player and person in the prime of his career, people will be upset. But the wisely managed teams have the courage to be bold because it makes sense for the best interests of the franchise.
It may hurt to acknowledge that’s where the Preds are at with Weber. But once you remove any emotional attachment you might have to seeing Weber in a Nashville uniform, you can see the prospect of trading the most famous Predator ever isn’t a bad thing at all. It sets the stage for better days.
from Josh Cooper of The Tennessean,
A little more than a year ago, the Predators threw a party in front of Bridgestone Arena.
General manager David Poile, chairman Tom Cigarran and CEO Jeff Cogen sat in the searing heat and praised their decision to match the Philadelphia Flyers’ 14-year, $110 million offer sheet for then-restricted free agent defenseman Shea Weber.
The Predators called the match — six days after Weber signed the offer sheet — “the most important transaction in franchise history.” The big-market Flyers had tried to scoop up Nashville’s captain, and the Predators said no.
A year later, it seems like the right move. It’s hard to believe the Predators would have had their highest average attendance this past season without Weber in the lineup, especially after losing fellow star defenseman Ryan Suter to the Minnesota Wild in free agency.
Losing Weber, their most important player, also would have forced the Predators into a rebuilding phase instead of retooling mode.
from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,
"Without a doubt, it’s been a tough year for us, especially with some of our top guys going down," Predators captain Shea Weber told ESPN.com Wednesday. "We battled hard but in the end we obviously couldn’t pull it together and get in."
These have to be soul-searching moments for Weber, who last summer saw his star defense partner, Ryan Suter, leave for Minnesota, then almost exited himself after signing a $110 million, 14-year offer sheet with the Philadelphia Flyers only to see the Predators match.
As of Wednesday morning, Weber was 16th among NHL defensemen with 23 points (eight goals) while ranking sixth in ice time at 26 minute per game. It’s not a bad season at all, but under the specter of the contract he signed, likely not enough for some.
"Obviously, we didn’t get into the playoffs, that means it didn’t go well for anyone," Weber responded when asked to talk about his own performance. "You can say that guys did well personally all you want, but if you’re not in the playoffs, if you’re not playing for the Stanley Cup, then things didn’t go as well as they should have."
from John Manasso of Fox Sports Tennessee,
A finalist for the Norris Trophy as the NHL’s top defenseman in each of the last two seasons (and signatory to -- oh, by the way -- a 14-year, $110-million contract last July), Weber has failed to earn a point in any of the Predators’ first nine games -- by far the longest drought of his career to start a season.
In spite of Weber’s lack of production -- his 19 goals last season tied him for the most in the league by a defenseman and his 49 points ranked him sixth among rearguards -- the Predators have managed a credible 4-2-3 start, good enough for sixth in the Western Conference.
Yet on Wednesday when asked by FOXSportsTennessee.com if the Preds could continue to win without production from the owner of one of the league’s hardest slapshots, general manager David Poile preferred not to dwell on such a dire hypothetical.
“I’d rather answer that he’s going to produce,” he said, referencing Weber’s slow start to last season. “…So I know that’s going to happen. Again, the way he bombs the puck -- he missed the net a few times -- being a little bit more accurate, he can beat goaltenders. They can’t contain the shot. There’s a rebound. It’s going to be there.”
from Josh Cooper of The Tennessean,
Predators defenseman Shea Weber’s offer sheet has been formalized into a contract, but it does not include a no-trade or a no-movement clause, his agent Jarrett Bousquet said Wednesday.
After Nashville matched Philadelphia’s 14-year, $110 million offer sheet on July 24, the Predators and Weber’s representatives had to decide on the terms of his contract for it to be official. Weber’s agents said they would ask Nashville for a no-movement or no-trade clause.
from Jamie McGee of the Nashville Business Journal,
The Nashville Predators kept their star defenseman Shea Weber Tuesday by matching one of the NHL’s most lucrative offers. As Nashville rallies around the team’s decision to hold on to its captain, consider these other figures for context:
$110 million: Salary Weber will make over 14 years. Also the amount of cash held by President Obama’s re-election campaign as of mid-June.
$51.04: Average ticket price to a 2011-12 Nashville Predators game, according to Team Marketing Report.
2,155,172: Number of tickets you could buy at that price for $110 million.
126: Number of times those tickets would fill each of Bridgestone Arena’s 17,113 seats.
from John Glennon of The Tennessean,
In his first public comments since the Predators matched a 14-year offer sheet for Shea Weber, the all-star defenseman expressed enthusiasm for returning to Nashville and said he hopes to finish his career here.
Those comments were in contrast to those of Weber’s agent, who in recent days said Weber wanted to play in Philadelphia — because the Predators were in a “rebuilding” stage and because the Predators didn’t have a track record of signing top free agents.
“I guess that was (agent Jarrett Bousquet’s) feelings,” Weber said. “Like I said, I was never a part of any of that. I didn’t make any statements publicly.
“I love the city of Nashville. I love the fans and my teammates. It’s a very positive thing that the ownership has stepped up and shown they’re going to be a team that’s going to spend to the cap and bring guys in and be a successful team.”...
Because he’d signed the offer sheet in the first place, however, there was some speculation Weber would push for a trade to the Flyers after this coming season. But Weber said he doesn’t envision that scenario occurring.
via the Predators website,
Nashville, Tenn. (July 24, 2012) – In the most important hockey transaction in franchise history, Nashville Predators Chairman Tom Cigarran, President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile and CEO Jeff Cogen announced today that the team has matched the 14-year, $110 million offer sheet between the Philadelphia Flyers and defenseman Shea Weber, insuring that the Predators’ captain will remain with the franchise for the next 14 years.
The decision to enter into the largest contract in franchise history was made by all parts of the organization, including ownership, hockey operations and business operations.
As the organization analyzed the overall situation and worked toward a conclusion, the decision boiled down to three questions:
- Was Shea Weber the individual that this franchise wanted to lead our team, a team that would compete for the Stanley Cup every year, for the next 14 years?
added 3:27pm, complete press release is below…
from Sam Carchidi of Broad Street Bull,
Two sources with knowledge of the situation confirmed that the Flyers and Nashville Predators have NOT had any trade talks since star defenseman Shea Weber signed a 14-year, $110 million offer sheet last Wednesday.
That would seem to suggest that Nashville plans to match the Flyers’ offer. Either that, or the Predators are delaying trade talks because they are trying to get the Flyers to call with a sweet proposal.///
One would think if Nashville didn’t plan to sign the offer sheet, it would be trying to orchestrate a trade in an attempt to get more than the four No. 1 picks.
Just got told by 1 NHL Exec it looks like Preds will matchWeber offer sheet. “Unless,Flyers are prepared to make a great trade”#doubtful— John Shannon (@JSportsnet) July 24, 2012
from Frank Seravalli of the Philadelphia Daily News,
With four nights to contemplate keeping Shea Weber for the next 14 years, the Nashville Predators have yet to make a decision whether to match the $110 million offer sheet the Flyers tendered the star defenseman last Wednesday.
When contacted by the Daily News on Sunday, Predators CEO Jeff Cogen referred to the original statement issued by the team on Thursday.
Similarly, the Flyers have not heard anything yet as to the Predators’ intentions.
In their statement, Nashville general manager David Poile said they will “take the appropriate time to review and evaluate it and all of its ramifications in order to make the best decision for the Predators in both the short and long-term.”
from Sam Carchidi of the Philadelphia Inquirer,
An NHL source with knowledge of the situation said on Sunday night that Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren and his Nashville counterpart, David Poile, have talked “just once” since restricted free-agent Shea Weber signed a 14-year, $110 million contract with Philadelphia on Wednesday.
That fuels speculation that Nashville is thinking about sending Weber, arguably the league best all-around defenseman, to the Flyers in a trade.
If Nashville was going to match the offer, there would be no need for Poile to confer with Holmgren.
from Scott Burnside of ESPN,
Multiple sources told ESPN.com on Thursday that they believe the ownership group has no choice but to breathe deep and match the offer sheet.
As for the idea that somehow Weber was indicating a desire to depart Nashville, Weber would have known that by signing the offer sheet he was likely to end up a Predator long-term.
Was it his preference to go to Philadelphia? Perhaps. But that is a moot point assuming the Predators match.
Weber knew Poile’s position going into the process, so he knew that by signing the Flyers’ offer, he was narrowing his career options to two, either of which was going to make him wildly wealthy and secure for what will amount to pretty much the rest of his career.
If Weber truly wanted out, he could have explained to Poile that he had no intention of signing a long-term deal in Nashville. He could have asked the Predators to trade him to a team prepared to offer him a long-term deal this summer before a new collective bargaining agreement comes into place that might eliminate these kinds of long-term, front-loaded deals.
That would have provided a risk for Weber, of course, hoping that such a deal could have been consummated.
from Darren Dreger of TSN,
By virtue of signing a 14-year, $110 million dollar offer sheet with the Philadelphia Flyers, restricted free agent Shea Weber has made it clear he wants out of Nashville….
Now the Predators are faced with a huge financial gamble.
With the threat of a work stoppage looming, Weber will collect a minimum of $26 million in the next 11 months. That’s a staggering amount of money for any team to absorb with so much uncertainty. But for the Predators - largely a budget-tight team – that hit them both in the short-term and long-term,
That said, this deal might not make sense.
from Adam Proteau of The Hockey News,
Philadelphia’s offer sheet isn’t exactly the same circumvention as Ilya Kovalchuk’s first contract with New Jersey, which was rejected by the NHL for violating the “spirit of the salary cap,” but it is a blatant “spiritual” circumvention nonetheless and a giant middle finger from Snider to all small-market teams.
That’s why owners such as Snider (a notorious hawk in all previous negotiations with the NHLPA) and Leipold (who got a sweetheart deal that removed him as Predators owner and gave him the keys to the much more profitable Wild) are such monstrous hypocrites when it comes to collective bargaining negotiations. They haughtily demand NHLers tighten their financial belts each and every time the league needs a new labor deal, then proceed to make a mockery of the agreement from the minute after it’s signed to the second before it expires.
Snider must know what will happen if the Predators fail to match their offer sheet for Weber. He has to be aware crestfallen Nashville fans will be justifiably soured on the way the NHL conducts its business and as a consequence will be less likely to invest their time, emotion and money in the league. He can’t be ignorant of the fact small-market teams functioning as de facto feeder systems and farcical versions of parity will be a drag on large markets and the overall profitability of the game. He also has to know if Nashville does match his offer, the financial strain on the franchise will make it next to impossible for the Preds to improve the team around Weber.
from Mark Spector of Sportsnet,
David Poile will wear a stern and disappointed face into the boardroom of his bosses at Predators Holdings LLC, and then he will tell them what everyone already knows.
“Either we compete. Or we die.”
“We just lost Ryan Suter, and got nothing back for him,” he’ll remind his owners. “Now, we have a chance to lock up the best defenceman in the game of hockey for the rest of his career.
“We’ve told our fans we’re going to compete for a Stanley Cup. We told them our offer for Suter was competitive. We told them we’ll match any offer on Shea Weber. If we don’t match this offer sheet, our rink will be empty, our franchise irrelevant. Nobody in this town will believe anything we tell them, ever again.”
It is that critical a week in the history of the Nashville Predators. Either they compete or they roll over and become the Columbus Blue Jackets. Worse. The New York Islanders.
There isn’t any “in between room” in this decision for a franchise that has always punched above its weight. They’re either in contention, or they’re out. No middle ground.
added 1:40pm, from David Shoalts of the Globe and Mail,
from John Boruk at CSN Philly on June 20th,
Here are eight reasons I believe the Flyers should submit an offer sheet for Predators defenseman Shea Weber:
Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren has to proceed as if Chris Pronger won’t return. If he does, and it doesn’t appear anytime soon, you simply cross that bridge when you come to it and make the appropriate moves to clear the cap space to work him back onto the active roster. Secondly, Kimmo Timonen will be entering the final season of his 6-year contract and there will be a considerable amount of wear-and-tear on his 38-year-old treads. On-going back issues could force Timonen to retire after the 2012-13 season.
Are you willing to place your faith in Ilya Bryzgalov without one of the league’s elite defensemen in front of him?
from Larry Brooks of the NY Post,
Shea Weber is the player for whom you pay the bounty the Blue Jackets are demanding but won’t get in exchange for Rick Nash.
Weber is not yet 27 and universally regarded as a franchise player who plays the right defense position, the most difficult in the league to fill — and for whom any team’s list of untouchables is slashed to the bare minimum.
Any suggestion the Predators’ Group II free agent would be susceptible to a one-year offer sheet is misguided. Signing a one-year deal of any kind (including his $7.5 million qualifier) would make Weber ineligible for a multi-year extension until Jan. 1, when a new NHL collective bargaining agreement will be in place that may include restrictions on contract length and front-loading that could cost the defenseman millions.
There are exactly two options for Weber and for the Predators: either a front-loaded 14-year contract with the Predators that, following the Kovalchuk Amendment’s bright line, would take Weber through his 40-year-old, 2025-26 season; or a trade to a team that would be able to sign Weber to such a contract.
continue for more on Weber and specifically how the Rangers could use his services…
from Kevin Allen at Rink Rap,
It certainly isn’t difficult to determine what to offer Weber: It’s the Sidney Crosby contract of $104.4 million over 12 years.
We know the Predators can go that high, because they were at least in the neighborhood in their bidding for Ryan Suter.
If the Predators make that offer, they are telling Weber they value him as much the Penguins value Crosby. And that’s the truth. They would be paying him more than Ryan Suter received when he left the Predators to sign with the Minnesota Wild this week. And that’s important. That offer would also telling their fans that the Predators are willing to do whatever it takes to build a winning organization
That level of offer essentially forces both sides to lay all of their cards on the table. If Weber doesn’t accept that offer now, it’s highly unlikely he’s going to re-sign in Nashville.
If he turns down the offer, Poile doesn’t have to guess whether Weber is going to stay. He will know it’s time to trade him and get players back that will put the franchise back on the road to recovery from the loss of Suter and Weber.
from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,
And so, now the hockey world eyeballs Shea Weber and wonders what the big guy will do.
My ESPN The Magazine colleague Craig Custance did a great job breaking that down yesterday. A restricted free agent, the Nashville Predators captain will be a major story line all summer long regardless of his decision in the wake of Ryan Suter’s departure.
“He’s still in disbelief,” Kevin Epp, one of Weber’s agents at Titan Sports Management, told ESPN.com Thursday. “They were so close this year in terms of the team’s chances. They really had a shot. Shea believed there was a good chance that Ryan would stay there. So, right now, Shea is still processing this news.”
At this point, anything remains possible. Weber could come conclude that the Predators are still a contender, especially depending what they do to replace Suter, and maybe Weber does sign a long-term deal this summer.
Or, after further pondering, the 2010 Olympic gold medalist might instead come to the realization that it’s time to move and turn down any long-term offers from the Preds. That, of course, would likely force Nashville’s hand on a trade.
continued plus other NHL names in the news…
from Craig Custance of ESPN Insider,
As of Monday, Weber hadn’t had any serious conversations on a possible offer sheet nor has the Weber camp aggressively sought any out. He likes Nashville and hasn’t been planning an exit strategy.
But that doesn’t mean there isn’t internal concern in the Nashville organization that an offer sheet is a possibility.
“It’s the nature of our business,” said one Nashville source. “These are the rules designed into our current system.”
There’s an assumption that the Predators would match any offer sheet given to their captain, but one source suggested that a one-year deal worth something close to the maximum like $13-14 million might handcuff Nashville.
“If they match, they can’t trade him,” he pointed out.
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... you do have to wonder if (Shea) Weber, a restricted free agent who went through arbitration with Nashville last summer, looks at the (Norris Trophy) award and wonders if this is a market where he can, at least be engraved, as the best defenseman in the NHL.
-Josh Cooper of The Tennessean, where you can read more plus additional Nashville notes.
from Rob Parent of the Daily Times,
While Jagr, who has the strong support of Claude Giroux behind him, should force the Flyers’ hands and demand a two-year deal with a comfortable upgrade over last year’s $3.3 million per year salary hit — and have Svoboda keep flirting with the Red Wings to help make it happen — the Flyers should put pressure on the Predators in an effort to replace Pronger’s concussion-caused vacancy.
It’s tricky because Weber is a pending restricted free agent, and Nashville has made overtures to re-sign him. If he doesn’t do so, they have to tender him a standard qualifying offer sheet by June 30. At that point, Weber can sign for a year at a 10-percent pay hike, choose to go to salary arbitration, or just wait to see what teams like the Flyers do.
Judging by their history, the Flyers would likely play along and put together an offer sheet for Weber aimed at pricing the Preds out of the market. They have the right to match any offer sheet, but if the landscape is too pricy, there are a couple of nice alternatives.
Weber would command a salary figure that would require four first-round draft picks from the Flyers as compensation, and it would free Nashville to do what it takes to keep Suter. More likely, the Flyers could trim their own payroll by working a deal with the Preds for Weber, banking on his willingness to sign a long-term extension sometime before or during next season.
from Jason Botchford of the Vancouver Province,
Weber is that type of player, the one the Canucks have forever lacked and coveted. But is it even possible?
Well, it just became at least plausible with the Predators disastrous second-round flame out. Ryan Suter is set to leave, and many people believe he will. Those around his situation claim he has a list of teams he wants to play for and Nashville isn’t on it.
If he does go, it backs the Predators into a corner. They haven’t been able to sign Weber to a long-term deal, and if that continues it’s either sign him for one year as a restricted free agent or trade him and try to retool on the fly.
That last option instantly means a treasure trove of assets will be coming back to Nashville in return. But would the Canucks have enough gold to barter with and win the auction?
There’s always Ryan Kesler, but he’s damaged goods, again, right now. Kevin Bieksa is locked up with a no-trade clause. Jannik Hansen is an intriguing option, and maybe the Canucks’ most intriguing. But he’s an add-on.
from Steve Rosenbloom of the Chicago Tribune,
The NHL wonk in charge of making miscreants stay after school did nothing more than fine Weber a mere $2,500, and only that because that was maximum allowed by the collective bargaining agreement.
No suspension. No missed games. No real punishment. Just a silly fine for a serious act.
Shanahan got pantsed. He clowned his own league. He turned the best time of the year into a joke.
The Stanley Cup playoffs just started, and the NHL’s credibility is over.
This decision seems so indefensible and incomprehensible that it smacks of a spineless NHL from a generation ago. The only thing missing is John Ziegler’s big red nose.
I am not going to link back to the actual tweet or else I would be here all day.
I am actually surprised by the reaction…
James Wisniewski’s suspension cost him $536,585.36. He should’ve smashed Zetterberg in the head 214.634144 times instead!
$2,500 fine. For twice wantonly driving a man’s head into the glass w/ violent force. Playoff rules? What a sad joke
Just when you think the NHL might be getting a clue, Weber gets fined but not suspended for atrocious shots to head of Zetterberg. Terrible.
Shea Weber fined $2,500 for turnbuckling Henrik Zetterburg’s head. Maybe woulda got suspended if he’d hit him with the ring bell, though.
NEW YORK (April 12, 2012) – Nashville Predators defenseman Shea Weber has been fined $2,500, the maximum allowed under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, for delivering a blow to the head of Detroit forward Henrik Zetterberg in Game 1 of the teams’ Western Conference Quarterfinal series in Nashville on Wednesday, April 11, the National Hockey League’s Department of Player Safety announced today.
The incident occurred at 20:00 of the third period. Weber was assessed a minor penalty for roughing.
“This was a reckless and reactionary play on which Weber threw a glancing punch and then shoved Zetterberg’s head into the glass,” said NHL Senior Vice President of Player Safety and Hockey Operations Brendan Shanahan. “As is customary whenever Supplemental Discipline is being considered, we contacted Detroit following the game and were informed that Zetterberg did not suffer an apparent injury and should be in the lineup for Game 2.
“This play and the fine that addressed it will be significant factors in assessing any incidents involving Shea Weber throughout the remainder of the playoffs.”
At the end of the game in case you missed it.