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Wings “Struggling With The New Realities Of The NHL”

from Drew Sharp of the Detroit Free Press,

They’re having a tough time accepting that everybody’s catching up, thanks to the NHL collective bargaining agreement (one that’s become the envy of NBA owners who are willing to shut down a season if at the end there’s a comparably reconstituted business model).

The Wings don’t scare anybody anymore. They’re certainly capable of jaw-dropping brilliance, but it’s much harder sustaining that excellence over long stretches. It’s less about them getting older and slower and more about the competition getting better.

The days of them wrapping up playoff berths in February might be gone for the foreseeable future. It’ll be a grind navigating through the Western Conference this season. Edmonton is vastly improved. Minnesota didn’t back down against the Wings, outdueling them in a home and home.

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MOWingsfan19's avatar

“I don’t care what fans or bloggers think”.
-Drew Sharp

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 11/03/11 at 11:09 AM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Drew Sharp is an idiot.  His article makes sweeping declarations without reference to any statements from the club.  As a matter of fact, if I weren’t so lazy, I’d find Holland’s recent quotes directly contradicting Sharp’s idiotic statements about league parity.

His article isn’t even worth lining my bird cage.  Beyond laziness, it is just a waste of space.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/03/11 at 11:19 AM ET

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“The Wings don’t scare anybody anymore.”

I strongly disagree, the Red Wings are still the gold standard for an NHL Hockey team…

Teams still approach playing the Wings like they do playing the defending Stanley Cup Champions…  The Red Wings are still the measuring stick…

Posted by wingsnut25 on 11/03/11 at 11:23 AM ET

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Drew Sharp’s day:

*look at standings, see Detroit is not near the top of the conference ratings*

“well, I don’t remember much about hockey since I stopped caring about it, but I do remember that this is a bad thing”

*walks to filing cabinet, pulls out manilla folder, blows dust off of it.*

“Hello, my old friend. Today is your rainy day.”

*posts incendiary linkbait cliches.*

“My work here is done…”

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/03/11 at 11:36 AM ET

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Drew Sharp made a living trying to convince people the Red Wings were not really all that popular in Detroit during the heydays of the 2002 and 2008 Cups. He would create multiple articles trying to prove the Pistons were more popular than the Red Wings during their last Cup run in the playoffs.

One article was based around the fact a local sports bar he went in had all their TVs but one on the Red Wings playoff game. The fact that lone TV was not showing the Wings was proof the Wings were not a big deal in Motown. I kid you not, that was the gist of his article.

He is a basketball guy who never really appreciated the fact the Wings leapfrogged the Pistons in terms of popularity years ago.

Posted by Red Winger from work on 11/03/11 at 11:45 AM ET

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Drew is as idiotic as some of the posters at the Freep.  And yes I’m looking directly at you Killbuttwipe and Cliffie the village idiot.  All they bloviate about is how Holland and Babcock are horrible at their jobs.  Then they go on to enlighten all of the readers how they would run the team.  It’s actually quite funny when you realize they would run the franchise into the ground within a year if they were in charge.

Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 11/03/11 at 12:46 PM ET

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Teams still approach playing the Wings like they do playing the defending Stanley Cup Champions…  The Red Wings are still the measuring stick…

And, therein, lies one of the reasons the Wings are where they’re at right now. Every team gets up for every game against the Wings. They probably circle it in red on their calendars and dream about it the night before the game.

The Wings simply haven’t matched that level of intensity, even before the losing streak from hell began. But what team can, really? How do you play 82 games with the same level of intensity that other teams devote to a fraction of that number?

Right now, most of the players (not you Bert, you lazy piece of #*!%) are doing a pretty good job – individually. But they’re a mess as a team. And that falls squarely at the feet of the head coach and the Captain. And neither right now seem to have a clue how to right the ship.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 11/03/11 at 01:29 PM ET

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The Red Wings are still the measuring stick…

I hate hearing this. Every team is a measuring stick to some degree. It’s a pretentious line of thinking. A win over Detroit is like a win over any other team, except a few; you know who they are. The Wings are having the same reality check every team gets in a season. The big loss to Washington and giving Columbus their first win was the beginning. It must have put a figurative hole in their sails. 5 goals in 5 straight losses. Even Columbus didn’t let that happen.

Teams go out there and play hard to win, not just against Detroit. The Wings are getting sloppy and need to really fix this trend before they come the 14th, or even 15th placed team in the Western Conference.

I’m exhausted from hearing that Detroit is top dog. It’s like playing a grandpa team with a false sense of entitlement. I’ll give you your 4 cups in 55 years but if that’s the way to look at this then shouldn’t every team play the Oilers, Islanders and Canadiens just as hard? If we’re going to play nice then people need to stop assuming that Detroit is THE bar.

Goodluck with Commodore tonight, seriously

Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 02:30 PM ET

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Drew Sharp is a hack that doesn’t actually know anything about the Red Wings or hockey.  He’s basically a paid troll.

Please Paul, don’t link to anything he writes or posts in the future.  You may as well then link to Eklund or something, it’s the same premise at work.  Eklund writes complete garbage and makes stuff up to get hits and so does Drew Sharp.  He’s a disgrace to journalism and is a prime example of why print journalism is dying…

Posted by Primis on 11/03/11 at 02:47 PM ET

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I’ll give you your 4 cups in 55 years

Ha. Ha. You’re funny!

Posted by sjketcheson from the floor of the Hasek on 11/03/11 at 02:52 PM ET

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5 goals in 5 straight losses. Even Columbus didn’t let that happen.

No, they let it get to 8 straight.  Congrats!

but if that’s the way to look at this then shouldn’t every team play the Oilers, Islanders and Canadiens just as hard?

You could look at it that way… or you could not be stupid and you could look at it as 4 cups in 20 years of consecutive playoff appearances and a team expected to compete for the cup again.

Then you can honestly ask yourself if people give as much of a shit against Columubus as they do against a team that’s… you know… actually good.

But fine; we can be honest and say that perhaps Detroit is not currently THE bar.  But if you want to keep that honesty going, then you should probably at least admit that Detroit is A Bar, as well as Vancouver, Washington, Chicago, Pittsburgh, San Jose, and Boston.

Teams seem to play harder against contenders.  Don’t pretend like people feel as good about beating Columbus as they do about beating Detroit.  Every team is a measuring stick to SOME degree.. it’s just that Detroit is a bigger stick than most.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/03/11 at 03:12 PM ET

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The real news here is that Drew Sharp is still alive.  Had no idea.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 11/03/11 at 03:23 PM ET

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Every team is a measuring stick to some degree. It’s a pretentious line of thinking.

Here’s something to keep in mind. The Wings are not the ones to trot this line out. It comes directly from opposing players and coaches every pre and post game interview from the past 20 years.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 11/03/11 at 03:50 PM ET

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If we’re going to play nice then people need to stop assuming that Detroit is THE bar.

You need to stop pretending Detroit isn’t THE bar.

As recently as the game against Washington, the players and coaching staff of the opposing teams said exactly that.  It’s not arrogance to say Detroit is the bar, it’s just simple observation.

20 consecutive years in the playoffs.

TWENTY.

Four Stanley Cups in those years, and two more finals appearances.

The bar.

Sorry, but it’s true.

Posted by Garth on 11/03/11 at 04:02 PM ET

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who cares if the wings are the bar or not? right now the bar is uncharacteristically low. they need to right the ship ASAP.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 11/03/11 at 04:29 PM ET

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Then you can honestly ask yourself if people give as much of a shit against Columubus as they do against a team that’s… you know… actually good.

And that’s the point I’m trying to make.

The Wings are not the ones to trot this line out. It comes directly from opposing players and coaches every pre and post game interview

Why? Is it because Detroit has had a good record? Just like any team going against a team leading their division it feels good to achieve a victory over them.

Any team on a large winning streak or in the top 6 in their conference is a good win and can be reflected in an interview. There is no reason to dub a single team “The Bar”. That’s ludicrous.

Regardless I’m rooting for Detroit after they drop a few more.

Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 04:38 PM ET

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There is no reason to dub a single team “The Bar”.

Of course there is.  It’s the quickest and simplest (and possibly the most effective) way to motivate ANY team.  “These guys are the bar.  You guys think you’re good?  You’re not good until you beat these guys.”

You’re acting as if it’s some grand conspiracy of someone.  It’s not.  It’s simple coaching and psychology.

Posted by Garth on 11/03/11 at 04:44 PM ET

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It’s the quickest and simplest (and possibly the most effective) way to motivate ANY team.  “These guys are the bar.  You guys think you’re good?  You’re not good until you beat these guys.

I can agree with that completely but this “Bar” isn’t much of a bar, it just sounds like an excuse for a Wing’s fan to complain about a loss. “Everyone shows up to play Detroit, it just isn’t fair.” I’ve heard that before…

Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 04:51 PM ET

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Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 03:51 PM ET

Are you actively not paying attention?

One more time for the cheap seats…

The Red Wings, the players and the fans are NOT the ones who say this.  It is opposing players and coaches who say this!  It is the media who say this!

Get it?  Please take off your anti-Wings-fans glasses and see it for what it is.

Posted by Garth on 11/03/11 at 04:59 PM ET

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Trust me, I’m FAR from being a Red Wings fan—a rarity on this site for sure. But this writer has no clue. The Wings are 10 games in to the season, with 72 left. Something tells me they will be fine and make the postseason for 21 out of 21 seasons.

If Sharp would do more than just look at the standings he can see this team can deal with adversity. The Wings last lost 4-straight in regulation in 2008 and won the Cup. They last went winless in 5-straight and made it to the Cup finals.

No one should ever bury this team. Period.

Posted by tj77 from USA on 11/03/11 at 05:03 PM ET

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I’m exhausted from hearing that Detroit is top dog. It’s like playing a grandpa team with a false sense of entitlement. I’ll give you your 4 cups in 55 years but if that’s the way to look at this then shouldn’t every team play the Oilers, Islanders and Canadiens just as hard? If we’re going to play nice then people need to stop assuming that Detroit is THE bar.

Goodluck with Commodore tonight, seriously

Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 01:30 PM ET

Translated to, “I’m bitter!”

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 11/03/11 at 05:08 PM ET

Nicholas Lorenzi's avatar

The Red Wings, the players and the fans are NOT the ones who say this.

Every fan I’ve talked to says this sir. That’s what I said, as you were not actively reading.

Translated to, “I’m bitter!”

About what?
Commodore? Ha! Have him, he’s a waste.
Detroit beating Columbus 60% of the time? Nope, when Columbus beats Detroit They usually beat the snot out of them.

Detroit is scared, they always find a way but right now I think they’re scared.

Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 05:14 PM ET

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Every fan I’ve talked to says this sir.

HOLY SHIT!

Do you understand why the fans say it?

Seriously, you can’t POSSIBLY not get it…

Posted by Garth on 11/03/11 at 05:23 PM ET

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I get how you get it. You can’t get how I “get it”.

They are contenders amoung others. Not a bar.

Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 05:27 PM ET

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They are contenders amoung others. Not a bar.

They are a bar.

According to professional star NHL players.

They are a bar.

According to professional NHL coaches.

They are a bar.

According to professional NHL management figures.

They are a bar.

According to members of the hockey media.

Therefore, yes, fans refer to the fact that professional star NHL players, NHL coaches, NHL management and hockey media all consider the Red Wings to be a bar.

Because they are a bar.

Posted by Garth on 11/03/11 at 05:31 PM ET

awould's avatar

It’s like playing a grandpa team with a false sense of entitlement.

Seriously. That came out of the mouth of a Columbus Blue Jackets fan.

If the Red Wings are a grandpa, the Blue Jackets are a baby. One has lived a long life with great accomplishments and the other’s still sitting in its own crap.

Posted by awould on 11/03/11 at 05:31 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Detroit beating Columbus 60% of the time?

Detroit’s All-Time record against Columbus is 50-18-1 for a 73% winning clip.  That includes the 100% winning record against Columbus in playoff games.

But, hey, at least you’ve got that one 8-2 victory to keep the bitters away, huh?  As long as you don’t account for the 9-1 revenge beat-down Detroit laid on the Jackets afterwards.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/03/11 at 05:33 PM ET

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Relax, folks. Lorenzi is simply trying to generate controversy for the sake of generating hits. If you doubt that, I give you this from his Oct. 26th blog titled “Blue Jackets Wiz on Conklin and many other firsts”...

I wrote it to be called out, it’s difficult to get attention on a site that is still primarily Red Wings fans.

Never. Ever. Feed. The. Trolls.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 11/03/11 at 06:53 PM ET

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You of sound mind and knowing my stance enables you to stop me from getting a rise out of you. Finally someone figured it out. I was surprised how easy this was.

Go Jackets!

Posted by Nicholas Lorenzi on 11/03/11 at 08:00 PM ET

awould's avatar

how fulfilling that must be.

Posted by awould on 11/03/11 at 08:05 PM ET

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A lot of crying about Drew Sharp and not much discussion about what is wrong with the team. Can you say OLD!!!

Posted by timbits on 11/03/11 at 11:18 PM ET

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Can you say OLD!!!

Sure, if you’re retarded.

It must have been the additions of White & Emmerton and the subtraction of Rafaski & Draper that has somehow made them old, right?

Posted by Garth on 11/04/11 at 02:26 PM ET

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