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How Much Rope Will Shanahan Get?

from Damien Cox of the Toronto Star,

“It’s evident that Shanny isn’t going to fool around with $200 fines or anything like that,” said Sharks coach Todd MacLellan.

Still, the GMs are the people that gave direction to Colin Campbell for years and Burke before that, and there are indications some are already feeling that Shanahan is taking his new disciplinary role beyond the expected boundaries.

“We voted for stiffer suspensions, and we meant it,” said one veteran executive. “But not doubling and tripling.

“If (Shanahan) gets too far in front, he won’t last long in the job.”

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It is apparent that “veteran executive” does not have his finger on the pulse of the NHL fans these days.  It is the behind the scene comments like this that has slowed down the progress of the NHL, when will they learn?

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The simple answer is that they will never learn, because while this is a great game, it is run by people who are a step to the side of the mindset that believed in clubbing women over the head and dragging them back to a cave. 90% of the teams that lose in this game do so because of dunderheads and the NHL front office is filled with such types.

Posted by Adam from Michigan on 09/28/11 at 12:15 AM ET

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Well, Adam, I can’t disagree with you regarding the dunderheads in the NHL office.  The most thickheaded of all would be the Garden Gnome.  (I almost said the biggest of all, but that word cannot be used when talking about Bettman.)  The difference is that there seems to be a small glow rising in a few cities that indicates that some teams are realizing that the injuries have to stop.

Shanahan was a hard player.  He would never have won the Lady Byng, for sure.  That being said, he understands that the game, as it has been evolving in the last few years, is being affected more and more by goons mugging players on the other team.  This must stop. 

If the league office can’t back him when he does the right thing, then they are worthless and so is the league.  I know that GMs, especially for the Blue Jackets and the Flyers, are whining 24/7.  They should be penalized for being stupid.

I sincerely hope the stiff justice continues.  If it does not, we will see more stars being seriously injured by clowns who play less than 2 minutes pere game.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 09/28/11 at 01:20 AM ET

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I can guaranteed guess the GM in 3 tries, but it’s probably holmgren.

This is one occasion where I think Bettman’s business sense may save Shanahan from the wrath of the cro-magnons. I don’t know if Frodo gives a fig about player safety, but he’s savvy enough to know that if Shanahan lost his job for too effectively policing player safety, the NHLPA would hire him immediately and make the issue into a PR nightmare for the league during the next CBA negotiations.

Posted by steviesteve on 09/28/11 at 01:54 AM ET

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“If (Shanahan) gets too far in front, he won’t last long in the job.”

How can he get “too far in front” when it comes to player safety. That’s a dumb comment from a dumb person (whoever he is).

...if Shanahan lost his job for too effectively policing player safety, the NHLPA would hire him immediately and make the issue into a PR nightmare for the league during the next CBA negotiations.

You beat me to it – almost word for word.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 09/28/11 at 01:58 AM ET

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Wait til the king of the knuckledraggers gets his say on HNIC. I can just hear him complaining that if you can’t club in the head minorities, skirtwearers and foreigners what good is it to play hockey.

Posted by timbits on 09/28/11 at 02:01 AM ET

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Big fan of Cherry, eh?  I’ll bet you Cherry agrees with Shanny.  If you listen to him instead of reflexively condemning him, you would know that he has been calling for no touch icing, softer equipment and changes to the glass and boards for years.

Posted by 13 user names on 09/28/11 at 02:33 AM ET

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I think that the NHL should ban checking. 

There would be no concussions, no knee on knee injuries, no upper body injuries…  The only possible injury would be from getting hit by the puck or twisting your ankle.

There would be no goons.  It would really allow the skilled players to shine.  Pure G-Rated family fun.

Sounds awesome, doesn’t it?

Posted by Terry Hale from San Jose on 09/28/11 at 02:41 AM ET

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LOL. Go ahead and sack Shanny for being too tough on irresponsible and dirty plays. Go ahead and try to sell that to both the public and the players union. It would make the wheel of justice coverage that Colin got seem like a vacation.

Posted by UMFan from Denver, Colorado on 09/28/11 at 03:38 AM ET

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I think that the NHL should ban checking. 

There would be no concussions, no knee on knee injuries, no upper body injuries…  The only possible injury would be from getting hit by the puck or twisting your ankle.

There would be no goons.  It would really allow the skilled players to shine.  Pure G-Rated family fun.

Sounds awesome, doesn’t it?

Posted by Terry Hale from San Jose on 09/28/11 at 12:41 AM ET

Wasn’t that tried once?

Posted by 42jeff from The greater Howard City, MI metroplex on 09/28/11 at 08:39 AM ET

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I’d love to know who the GM was. If it’s Boston or Philly’s GM than Shanny will be toast. Those guys are backed by owners who literally hold our favourite Garden Gnome by the short hairs.

It would be a shame as Shanny is spot on so far. Hit em hard (with a fine) and hit ‘em early (in the preseason) to send a message.

If enough meatheads like Shelley and Jacques are suspended early, maybe the likes of Lucic, Richards, the Wiz, Avery, Kaleta, Carcillo, Ruutu, Torres, and Cooke will think twice about targeting players when they’re vulnerable as they’ll be costing their team plenty in missed games…

Posted by Marc10 from Sydney, Oz on 09/28/11 at 10:11 AM ET

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Posted by 13 user names on 09/28/11 at 12:33 AM ET

But why would anyone want to do any of that when you can make broad, sweeping generalizations while pretending that Cherry hasn’t been at the forefront of changing the pads, teaching players not to hit from behind when they’re kids, etc?

Posted by Garth on 09/28/11 at 10:19 AM ET

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The simple answer is that they will never learn, because while this is a great game, it is run by people who are a step to the side of the mindset that believed in clubbing women over the head and dragging them back to a cave. 90% of the teams that lose in this game do so because of dunderheads and the NHL front office is filled with such types.

Well said.

The game is still being run by dinosaurs who think spearing someone in the neck for looking at the goalie is fine.
They came from an era where shoulder pads were padded with kleenex, where a large man was 6’ and 175lbs, and where fast meant you could make it end to end in 100 strides.

Shanny’s doing the right thing. With Campbell we had an era that saw stars like Savard, Crosby, Kariya and Bergeron severely injured with careless hits to the head.

If this ‘exec’ is upset now, think about how great the game will be when all the stars are spending more time in the ‘quiet room’ than the rink.
Oh how fun it’ll be to watch the NHL where every team has 3rd liners on their top line.

I hope Shanny takes this quote as a personal challenge and shoves it in their face.
All of the suspensions he’s given out are warranted. All of them were highly dangerous or cowardly plays that could have resulted in major injuries.
It’s been proven that giving 1 or 2 games doesn’t work. Hacking 10% off a players salary will sure make them think twice before running a guy head-first into the boards, or throwing a deadly elbow after a whistle.

Posted by Hank1974 on 09/28/11 at 11:12 AM ET

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I think that the NHL should ban checking. 

There would be no concussions, no knee on knee injuries, no upper body injuries…  The only possible injury would be from getting hit by the puck or twisting your ankle.

There would be no goons.  It would really allow the skilled players to shine.  Pure G-Rated family fun.

Sounds awesome, doesn’t it?

Thanks for the hyperbole. You do realize there’s a difference between a clean shoulder-check compared with a hit from behind, or elbow to the jaw right?

I love how the most uneducated hockey fans can look at someone getting crushed from behind into an unmovable wall and all they can think is “That’s a good hockey play”.
Tell me which Shanny suspension wasn’t warranted?

Clean hitting is awesome. Cheapshots and dangerous hitting isn’t.
I hope you never have to see your child get run from behind. And maybe when that kid only gets a slap on the wrist you can make sarcastic comments about how we’re panzifiying the sport.

Posted by Hank1974 on 09/28/11 at 11:16 AM ET

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I wish Damien Cox had a shorter rope.

Posted by Iggy Rules on 09/28/11 at 11:30 AM ET

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As to fighting, if you think about it it’s been eliminated among 90% of the players already.  That’s why they wheel out these giant goons once in awhile for a scrap and then return to the game.  If the stage fights were taken out I think fighting would be reduced by 80%  I don’t think the safety valve argument holds water anymore (how many fights do the vast majority of players have?)

Posted by 13 user names on 09/28/11 at 07:47 PM ET

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