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Hal Gill Traded To Nashville

via Pierre LeBrun tweet,

Canadiens acquire B. Geoffrion, R. Slaney, and 2nd round pick in 2012 from NSH for H. Gill and a con 5th round pick in ‘13

added 2:23pm,

Nashville, Tenn. (February 17, 2012) – Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced today that the club has acquired veteran defenseman Hal Gill and a conditional fifth-round pick in the 2013 Entry Draft from Montreal in exchange for a second-round pick in the 2012 Entry Draft and forwards Blake Geoffrion and Robert Slaney. He is expected to meet the team today in Detroit.
       
“Hal Gill brings our team a number of elements – size, penalty-killing ability, depth on defense and playoff experience,” Poile said. “He has won a Stanley Cup and played a combined 69 playoff games over the last four years, experience that significantly benefits our team.”

 

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SYF's avatar

Would Gill be eligible to play in tonight’s game at the Joe?

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 02/17/12 at 05:23 PM ET

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Good !! he won’t becoming to Pens ! Orange Roadcone !  He will get used & abused in the western Conf. he has 2 speeds Slow & Stop

Posted by Evilpens on 02/17/12 at 05:25 PM ET

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This is a sidebar to Gill arriving in Nashville, obviously, but Blake Geoffrion playing for his grandpa’s team in Montreal? Awesome. Can he wear #5?

Posted by JG on 02/17/12 at 05:31 PM ET

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Would Gill be eligible to play in tonight’s game at the Joe?

Probably not since all players involved would have to pass a physical. Seems like it’d be too short a time to do that.

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 02/17/12 at 05:31 PM ET

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Seems like a pretty smart move. Very targeted veteran improvement for the playoffs. Kudos to Preds.

Posted by Crater from SoCal on 02/17/12 at 05:33 PM ET

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I think it a great trade for the Preds.

Posted by hiero4life on 02/17/12 at 05:48 PM ET

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yeah, i think this is a savvy pickup too. Gill seems very Predator-like in his skill set. And with the top d-pairing they already have, adding a big, physical guy to strengthen up the second or third pairing is a playoff oriented move for sure.

You also have to give them credit for jumping on this now before the competition heats up over the next couple weeks. 10 days from now Gill could have definitely cost more. He may be slow, but with the rigid, physical system that Nashville plays, he doesn’t have to be very fast. Barry Trotz will absolutely utilize his strengths the way he has all of their players for several years now. Definitely strengthens their team.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/17/12 at 05:49 PM ET

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UMM when is the last time you have seen Gill Play?? Physical ? NOT ! Big yes, Physical NO

Posted by Evilpens on 02/17/12 at 06:04 PM ET

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Wait, what?

Who sits then for NAS?  Josi?  Boullion?  Ellis?  No, can’t be Ellis… can it?  Kid has been GREAT for them I thought.  Josi has also been fine I thought.  In which case…. that leaves Boullion, in which case they traded a guy that can’t skate for a bigger guy that can’t skate.

I don’t entirely get this deal.  I thought the Preds were happy enough with what they had.  And I don’t actually see what Gill brings to them.  Gotta’ say the guy seems like a pylon far too often.

Not saying Geoffrion is anything to get back in this deal either.  I just don’t see the logic unless I’m missing something.

Preds fans don’t seem to like/get this deal either, and most think they veyr much overpaid.

Posted by Primis on 02/17/12 at 06:05 PM ET

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Might be ok for Preds short-term, but Geoffrion, a prospect and a 2nd rounder is overpaying for Hal Gill in the long-term.  This doesn’t look like a bad deal for MTL.

Posted by Denver Wings on 02/17/12 at 06:08 PM ET

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Geoffreon’s just a crap never-will-be with a famous name as far as I know and I thought Slaney was an assistant coach for the Coyotes farm team.

The second-rounder is the overpayment. Nashville’s a franchise that actually makes things happen with second round picks.

I mean, if Gill was worth a 2nd 5 years ago, you’d have to think that would come down now. Seller’s market, I guess.

Also don’t understand what this does for Nashville. There are teams he would have made a lot of sense on (STL, maybe Philadelphia or NJD), but Nashville isn’t one that jumped out at me. No matter who they lose they are never, ever, ever short on capable D.

Posted by larry from pitt on 02/17/12 at 06:19 PM ET

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Market determines price i suppose.  In 08 Pens gave up a 2nd and a 5th for Gill who still had a year left on his deal.  Obviously he was a lot younger at that point too.  Gotta say though I was hoping the Pens would bring him back, they had interest just not for that price i suppose. Gill will probably take a little while to adjust to the Preds system.  Probably drive Preds fans crazy for a little while.  But there is no doubt Gill is clutch in the playoff, and will do well. With that being said I dont think Gill makes the Preds that much better, they need scoring.  Unless they plan on winnings every game 1-0.

Posted by JT from PITTSBURGH on 02/17/12 at 06:24 PM ET

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this better not mean Suter’s moving. I’m sure it doesn’t, but like some have said, it doesn’t seem like a great fit.

Posted by MoreShoot on 02/17/12 at 06:26 PM ET

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Maybe this is to add a solid, experienced clutch playoff guy since they plan on trading Suter for the Offense they really need?  Can help on the second or third pairing and in the dressing room?

Posted by gusoline on 02/17/12 at 06:27 PM ET

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This makes no sense to me.  The 1 thing the Preds have is defense, a lot of defense.  They need people that can score, so they get Hal Gill?  I don’t get it at all unless they are planning on trading 1 of Weber/Suter.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/17/12 at 06:32 PM ET

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I don’t sweat Gill at all. They need all the O they can get and they just traded some for a pylon.

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 02/17/12 at 06:33 PM ET

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Don’t worry about Evilpens trolling Pred fans ... your team made an awesome playoff pickup in Gill. HIs ability to take away any shot or pass in the PK from the side he defends was a huge part of the reason for the Habs great PK for the last couple of seasons and the man does step it up in the playoffs. Hope it works for you guys. Have no clue about Geoffrion as a player but the Habs are weak on the left side down on the farm so this may be a great pickup for them.

Posted by Shaun from Toronto on 02/17/12 at 06:35 PM ET

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Just a reminder:

Suter’s RFA.
Weber’s UFA.

I think the Preds are keeping Suter.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 02/17/12 at 06:36 PM ET

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OK Shaun I didn’t watch EVERY game he was with the Pens & his breakout pass was hard around the wall !

Posted by Evilpens on 02/17/12 at 06:38 PM ET

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Just a reminder:

Suter’s RFA.
Weber’s UFA.

I think the Preds are keeping Suter.

Posted by SYF from a “Bron-Y-Aur Stomp”.

Thought it was the other way around?  Not sure where to check to verify, don’t usually get involved in trade speculation, but it’s Friday…

Posted by gusoline on 02/17/12 at 06:41 PM ET

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SYF, FYI its flipped the other way around, Suter is the UFA and Weber is still an RFA due to the one year settlement last year at arbitration.

Posted by BrendonR on 02/17/12 at 06:42 PM ET

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there is no doubt Gill is clutch in the playoff

I see what you did there…“clutch.”

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…clutch…clutch and grab…a pylon who constantly gets away with interference and holding in the playoffs. Whoa, that’s a good one…

What…you were serious?

That’s even more funny.

Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 02/17/12 at 06:45 PM ET

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I dont think this has anything to do with Suter/Weber.  This is only about playoff experience and depth on defense. The Preds think they can make a deep playoff run this year. 
Hall Gill has more playoff games then the Predators organization.  He’s slow, but he has won a cup, and if the trend of less obstruction penalties continues through the playoffs, this is an even better pickup for them.

There is no chance either Suter or Weber are moved before the end of the season.  If they cant sign them, they will trade their bargaining rights at the draft, and probably get a decent return for them.

Posted by jwad on 02/17/12 at 06:46 PM ET

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I disagree that Hal Gill’s useless. What he does (block any pass or shot in reach traveling between the circles or through the crease, kill penalties, obstruct, maul people who stand in front of the net), he does very well.

It just seems to me that Pred D already was shored up apart from, maybe, Boullion who isn’t out there that much to begin with. A 2nd round pick from Nashville is a 2nd pairing D in 3 or 4 years. To trade a future #3 D for a bunch of years for 2 months of Gill taking Boullion’s limited minutes? I don’t get why this move was necessary.

Posted by larry from pitt on 02/17/12 at 06:52 PM ET

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Posted by gusoline on 02/17/12 at 03:41 PM ET


Posted by BrendonR from Toronto, ON on 02/17/12 at 03:42 PM ET

You gents are right but I remain that Suter’s the keeper of the two.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 02/17/12 at 06:58 PM ET

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Gill is officially out for tonight’s game but will be meeting the Preds in Detroit.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/17/12 at 07:13 PM ET

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You gents are right but I remain that Suter’s the keeper of the two.

In NAS’s eyes yeah, but he’d be the harder one to retain too.

Posted by Garth on 02/17/12 at 07:15 PM ET

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Evilpens, some Hab fan on another site posted that they’d miss Gill’s breakout pass and they were serious. I laughed too. But the Preds did not pick him up for that and if you look at the guy’s longevity, his career plus minus, and consider his reputation in the league and then couple that with the fact that teams keep wanting him, picking him up, and trading for him, you have to admit you might not be the best judge of his worth. Maybe the Habs were idiots to sign him. Maybe his cup with the Pens was a gift. Maybe the Preds GM is out of his mind. Or maybe all the little thing that he does exceptionally well fly under the radar of the average fan and it’s only the glaring immobility errors that get remembered. It’s easy to see the obvious and rare to notice the not obvious.

Posted by Shaun from Toronto on 02/17/12 at 07:22 PM ET

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Nope Rob Scuderi got paid quite well by the Kings too! SC’s overinflate some players value in somes Peoples eyes I will always hold those guys in high esteem they were part of a SC winning team after all the BS us Pens fans went through. Gill has had a damn good career but in the Western Conf. he will get eaten up

people keep trading for Dominic Moore too Doesn’t mean he is all that good either

Posted by Evilpens on 02/17/12 at 08:50 PM ET

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all i know gil is a great guy that plays a great defence game the nashville fans will love having him on the penalty kill theres a reason why the canadiens are having a terrible seasson this year but the penalty kill is number one in the nhl n gill is a very big part of that and ohh lets not forget that gill is concidered clutch during the playofs the last 2 years he did a great job for the canadiens come playoff time he will be missed in montreal n he will be loved in nashville every team hes ever played for loved him

Posted by dimitri from canada on 02/17/12 at 08:57 PM ET

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I do not understand why Nashville would want a blue-liner with the mobility of a tree stump.  Gill has never been what I would call a decent skater.  He has deteriorated so he is slower than some goalies in full equipment.  He does block shots.  He has been around for a long time.  Guys like Pavel Datsuyk blow around him like he is not there.

I suspect this means that they expect Suter to depart, either through a deadline trade or free-agency. 

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 02/17/12 at 09:18 PM ET

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The Red Wings broadcasters seem to believe this was a preemptive move to keep Chicago from getting Gill.  That makes more sense than any other theory.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 02/17/12 at 11:00 PM ET

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Watching the Preds tonight just enforces my thought that this trade doesn’t make any sense.  Their entire team blocks shots and passes and can’t score, so they give up tradeable assets to get a guy they have a locker room full of, only slower.  It certainly doesn’t hurt them any, but I don’t think it really helps them either, except insurance against injury.  Tell me watching that game tonight, how it would have been any different with Gill on the ice.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/18/12 at 01:18 AM ET

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except insurance against injury.

I think it’s this and the fact that they’ve got two 21 year olds on their roster right now and any kind of veteran presence has got to be good because nobody knows how those rookies will handle playoff hockey.

Also, having a guy with some playoff experience, including a Cup ring, can’t hurt much.

Posted by Garth on 02/18/12 at 04:21 AM ET

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