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GDT - Game #9:  Red Wings at Wild (8:00)

By all accounts the Red Wings turned in a much better effort last night, and lost.  DET (5-3) now possess the worst losing streak in the league.  As you’d expect, there is great anxiety in the Hasek. The “19” are asking questions, and pointing fingers in all directions; Holland, Babcock, and the roster.  A consensus is forming that DET “just aren’t good enough.”  I’m not quite ready to hit the panic button, but I certainly can hear David Bowie exercising his pipes.  Last year DET finished with a .634 point%, .622 in 09-10, .683 in 08-09; right now they are .625; so they aren’t terribly off the pace.  Having said that, DET have scored only 4 goals during the losing streak, and the #2 line do not have a single point between them during the streak.

But hell, I’m just glad to see that DET finally turned in a good effort, and I expect the Wings to put in the same type of effort on a much more consistent basis. But it is damn sure time to post a W.  LGRW.

Central Division Standings:

GP W L OTL PTS GOAL DIFF  
1 CHI 9 5 2 2 12 +4
2 DET 8 5 3 0 10 E
3 STL 10 5 5 0 10 -1
4 NSH 9 4 4 1 9 -5
5 CBJ 10 1 8 1 3 -11


Team Records:

DET:  7 GP,  5-3-0, 10 pts, (7 in Conf, 2 in Central), 22 GF, 22 GA, Last 10 5-3-0,  LOST 3

MIN:  9 GP,  3-3-3,  9 pts, (13 in Conf, 4 in Northwest), 20 GF, 23 GA, Last 10 3-3-1,  LOST 1

Home/Away Record:

DET on road:  2-2-0 (16)
MIN at home:  2-2-1 (13)

Stats (rank):

DET:  .625 point% (10), 2.75 G/G (12), 2.75 GA/G (16), 1.08 5-5 F/A (13), 17.1 PP% (14), 75.9 PK% (26), 35.6 S/G (2), 27.6 SA/G (6),  50.4 FO% (13).

MIN:  .500 point% (23), 2.00 G/G (28), 2.44 GA/G (12),  0.92 5-5 F/A (20), 13.9 PP% (22), 74.2 PK% (28), 25.3 S/G (28), 28.4 SA/G (9), 49.3 FO% (18).

Somebodies PP unit should get a little better.

Goal Differential/Game:

DET = + 0.00
MIN =  -0.44

Player Stats:
DET Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
C Pavel Datsyuk 8 2 5 7 -4 18:45
C Valtteri Filppula 8 2 5 7 3 16:22
C Johan Franzen 8 4 3 7 1 16:36
D Nicklas Lidstrom 8 2 4 6 -2 24:08
L Tomas Holmstrom 6 1 3 4 1 11:34
C Jiri Hudler 8 2 2 4 1 14:10
R Todd Bertuzzi 8 1 2 3 1 13:19
L Henrik Zetterberg 8 2 1 3 -3 19:20
D Ian White 8 2 1 3 1 23:04
R Danny Cleary 8 0 2 2 -2 15:38
D Niklas Kronwall 8 1 1 2 -2 22:54
D Jakub Kindl 8 0 2 2 3 13:36
L Justin Abdelkader 8 1 1 2 0   14:36
C Cory Emmerton 6 1 1 2 1 9:21
L Drew Miller 6 0 2 2 2 10:22
C Darren Helm 8 1 1 2 3 15:29
D Jonathan Ericsson 8 0 1 1 3 16:03
D Brad Stuart 8 0 0 0 -1 19:31
R Patrick Eaves 5 0 0 0 -2 11:02
L Fabian Brunnstrom 1 0 0 0 -1 8:09

#1 line is -9!  That explains alot.

DET Goalies:
Player GPI W L OT GAA PCT
Ty Conklin 3, 1-2-0,  3.37,  0.882
Jimmy Howard 5,  4-1-0,  1.98,  0.925

MIN Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
L Dany Heatley 9 2 4 6 -1 22:04
C Matt Cullen 9 4 1 5 1 18:34
L Guillaume Latendresse 8 1 4 5 2 15:49
R Devin Setoguchi 9 3 2 5 -1 18:49
C Mikko Koivu 9 0 4 4 0 21:07
C Pierre-Marc Bouchard 7 0 4 4 -2 15:56
C Kyle Brodziak 9 2 1 3 0 17:45
R Brett Bulmer 9 0 3 3 1 11:01
D Marek Zidlicky 9 0 2 2 -2 23:25
R Nick Johnson 5 1 1 2 1 9:08
R Cal Clutterbuck 9 2 0 2 -1 16:52
D Jared Spurgeon 9 1 1 2 0 18:59
D Greg Zanon 7 1 0 1 1 20:01
D Clayton Stoner 9 0 1 1 3 17:45
C Colton Gillies 9 0 1 1 -2 9:33
D Marco Scandella 9 1 0 1 -4 21:14
D Nick Schultz 9 0 0 0 -1 19:45
R Brad Staubitz 5 0 0 0 0 6:17
L Matt Kassian 2 0 0 0 1 2:58
C Darroll Powe 9 0 0 0 -2 11:04
D Justin Falk 2 0 0 0 1 21:58

MIN Goalies:
Player GPI W L OT GAA PCT
Josh Harding 1,  0-0-1,  2.81,  0.927
Niklas Backstrom 8,  3-3-2,  2.30,  0.912

TSN - HOT and NOT:  

DET: Hot:
Nicklas Lidstrom (D) 5 pts in last 4 GP
Pavel Datsyuk (C/LW) 4 pts in last 4 GP
Tomas Holmstrom (RW/LW) 4 pts in last 4 GP
Jimmy Howard (G) 3-1-0, 1.73, .931 in last 4 GPI

DET: Not Hot:
Ian White (D) 0 pts in last 4 GP
Dan Cleary (LW/RW) 0 pts in last 6 GP
Jiri Hudler (LW/RW) 0 pts in last 4 GP
Valtteri Filppula (C/W) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Johan Franzen (LW/RW) 0 pts in last 3 GP

Ty Conklin (G) 0-2-0, 5.08, .821 in last 2 GPI

Paging the #2 line.

MIN: Hot:
Devin Setoguchi (RW/LW) 3 pts in last 3 GP
Dany Heatley (RW/LW) 3 pts in last 3 GP

MIN: Not Hot:
Cal Clutterbuck (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Niklas Backstrom (G) 0-1-1, 2.88, .875 in last 2 GPI

Injury Report:

DET:
Mike Commodore (D) Back injury (Day to day)
Jan Mursak (RW/LW) Fractured ankle (Injured reserve)

MIN:
Greg Zanon (D) Groin (Day to day)
Mike Lundin (D) Back injury (Injured reserve)
Cody Almond (C/LW) Back injury (Injured reserve)

Jeff Sagarin NHL Ratings, USAToday

NHL 2010-2011 through games of 2011 OCTOBER 28 FRIDAY

HOME ADVANTAGE=  0.07   RATING   W   L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16  

11 Detroit Red Wings     =  4.18   5   3   3.76(  29)  0   2 |  1   2
24 Minnesota Wild       =  3.47   3   6   3.90(  26)  2   2 |  2   3

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stonehands-78's avatar

Paging the #2 line.

for me,
that about sums it up.

L.G.R.W.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 10/29/11 at 02:14 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

The Wings are good enough. Whether they want it enough time will tell. But if the effort is there, I’ll take that anytime.

Thanks, Okie.

LET’S GO RED WINGS!!!!!

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 10/29/11 at 03:03 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

I tthought the number two line was good had good chances.. thought mickey was tough on them but they were going just not getting..

Top line was MIA first 6 games.. they definitely are missing swagger as a team…

I think there could be some merit to the team just not being great.. with the parity in the league skill is very evenly dispursed and we don’t look like a team that recognizes that.  Against columbus they looked like they thought it was gonna be a cakewalk and got stuck in the mouth.. think the team thinks they’re better than tthey are and aren’t competing hard enough or persuing the puck like they used to.. will over skill

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 10/29/11 at 03:05 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

Brunnstrom has been placed on waivers.

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 10/29/11 at 03:08 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

Howard in net tonight.

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 10/29/11 at 03:27 PM ET

Red Winger's avatar

Brunnstrom has been placed on waivers.

Posted by MsRedWinger from Florida, wishin’ I was back in the Mitten on 10/29/11 at 01:08 PM ET

What the hell??

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 10/29/11 at 03:27 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Good work as always Jeff.

As it’s still very early in the season, I wouldn’t necessarily say that I’m quite in panic mode over this team.  It’s just that last night, having now played that team from San Jose 21 teams in slightly over two calendar years, I think some of us are starting to see some pretty clear trends that aren’t exactly reassuring.

It seems that they are now our measruing stick, and not the other way around.  It bears repeating, but as I mentioned last night, I don’t think the gap between the two teams is huge by any means.  I also don’t think it’s insignificant either.  I think the Red Wings can hang with them, beat them even, but they have to play a damn near perfect sixty minutes in order to do so.

I guess the most glaring trend when these two teams meet is that whenever the game is on the line, it’s inevitably the Wings who seem to make the crucial mistake at the crucial moment and whenever those breakdowns occur, the Sharts make them pay by burying their chances.  The Wings, on the other hand, are capable of carrying the play to them for long stretches, but they just don’t seem to have the horses to finish in close around the net with the same proficiency as San Jose. 

To me it’s is simple as that.  They have better offensive players at the top of their lineup and they capitalize on the Wings’ all too numerous breakdowns and blunders.  It’s not panic, just a rational assessment.  Ask yourself this.  Do guys like Hudler, Cleary and Filppula even sniff top six minutes on SJ’s roster?  Probably not.

Again, I don’t think the gap is huge, but I do think in order to move beyond a merely good team that will probably make the playoffs and possibly win their division—in order to regain their status as one of the teams to beat—the Wings need an infusion of sorts.  Foremost, I think they desparately need to find someone to play alongside Datsyuk and Hank who can complement what they do and be a constant threat to score goals.  That would allow Cleary to return to his “utility infielder” role.  He’s so much better suited to the grinder, occasional complementary or secondary scorer who can plug in and be effective in a variety of roles.

I also agree with those who have suggested that beyond whatever talent deficiencies exist on the current roster, they could use a little fire in the belly as well.  Granted we’re merely observers, but from where I sit at least, I gotta say it does look as though there‚Äôs not a helluva a lot of passion and that maybe the whole calm, buttoned-down approach that has been their trademark has reached a point of diminishing returns.  The fact that their head coach has continued to question his team’s commitent and effort level over the past three seasons rather strongly suggests there might be some chemistry issues that need to be addressed.

Or maybe it’s just the way that three game losing streaks make me see things.  I guess we’ll find out more about this team in a few hours.

LGRW!

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 10/29/11 at 03:55 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Brunnstrom has been placed on waivers.

Well they were 5-0 when he was inserted into the lineup and they haven’t been the same since.  Scapegoat?

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 10/29/11 at 03:59 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

But it is damn sure time to post a W.  LGRW.

 

We should have had the last 2 of 3 or better. And, I want a far better effort than even last night.

Oh, and keep Homer in. He is a beast.

Thanks OAkie.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/29/11 at 04:41 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Snow in October sucks!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/29/11 at 04:42 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Brunnstrom has been placed on waivers.

Maybe trying to sneak him through on a busy weekend?  Doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense.

Posted by calquake on 10/29/11 at 05:39 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Per Khan on MLIve…

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/10/red_wings_place_fabian_brunnst.html

Brunnstrom to GR, Nyquist or Conner to Detroit?

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 10/29/11 at 06:32 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

Nyquist or Conner to Detroit?

Or Tatar. It’s a curious move regardless.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 10/29/11 at 06:36 PM ET

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