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GDT - Game #15:  Red Wings host Stars (7:00)

One, two, three, the Red Wings (8-5-1), are riding a three game win streak into the finale of their six game homestand.  DET are 3-1-1 in this homestand, and are hoping to finish it up against DAL tonight by earning 9 of 12 points (that’d be a .750 pt percentage for you math pharmacists out there). 

I won’t pull an Albom on you (I was watching DHS annihilate their opponent in their playoff opener, 38-7), so I’ll let the Edmonton Journal sum up last nights tilt:  “. . . it shouldn’t have been surprising that the Red Wings won tonight’s contest, nor should it have been surprising that they looked quite good while doing it.  The surprising thing was how thoroughly they smothered the Oilers’ offense, limiting the team’s scoring chances and making most of the big offensive names look incapable of generating plays.”  Nice score sheet, James third shutout, and lots of guys due for points, no comment on the 0-6 PP.

The Stars (11-4) are the league leader in percentage points won at .733 (despite getting outshot by 6 a game?).  But DAL lost at the tuxedos last night, 3-1 (PIT had two other scores waived off - 24 seconds apart), mustered only 20 SOG, and lost D-man Alex Goligoski to injury. 

So, how bout some Billy Joel tonight?  LGRW. 

Central Division Standings:

1 CHI 17 10 4 3 23 +7
2 NSH 15 8 5 2 18 +2
3 DET 14 8 5 1 17 +6
4 STL 15 7 7 1 15 -1
5 CBJ 15 2 12 1 5 -25

Team Records:

DET:  14 GP,  8-5-1, 17 pts, (7 in Conf, 3 in Central), 37 GF, 31 GA, Last 10 4-5-1, WON 3

DAL:  15 GP,  11-4-0,  22 pts, (2 in Conf, 1 in Pacific), 46 GF, 36 GA, Last 10 7-3-0,  LOST 1

Home/Away Record:

DET at home:  6-2-1 (2)
DAL on road:  5-3-0 (5)

Stats (rank):

DET:  .607 point% (13), 2.64 G/G (18), 2.21 GA/G (5), 1.41 5-5 F/A (3), 16.7 PP% (18), 78.6 PK% (21), 35.5 S/G (2), 25.9 SA/G (1),  51.3 FO% (11).

DAL:  .733 point% (6), 2.93 G/G (10), 2.40 GA/G (10),  1.53 5-5 F/A (1), 18.5 PP% (11), 81.3 PK% (16), 27.0 S/G (24), 33.0 SA/G (28), 49.5 FO% (17).

Goal Differential/Game:

DET = +0.43
DAL =  +0.53

Player Stats:
DET Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
C Johan Franzen 14 8 6 14 5 17:06
D Nicklas Lidstrom 14 6 5 11 5 24:05
C Valtteri Filppula 14 3 8 11 9 16:26
C Pavel Datsyuk 14 2 8 10 -4 19:29
L Henrik Zetterberg 14 3 3 6 0 19:38
D Niklas Kronwall 14 3 3 6 -2 22:56
C Jiri Hudler 13 2 4 6 3 13:26
D Ian White 14 2 4 6 7 22:58
L Tomas Holmstrom 12 1 3 4 1 12:25
R Danny Cleary 14 2 2 4 -2 16:36
L Drew Miller 12 1 3 4 5 10:29
R Todd Bertuzzi 11 1 2 3 -1 13:17
D Jakub Kindl 12 0 3 3 3 13:23
L Justin Abdelkader 14 1 2 3 1 13:54
C Cory Emmerton 11 1 1 2 3 8:44
C Darren Helm 14 1 1 2 4 14:51
D Jonathan Ericsson 14 0 1 1 3 15:47
R Patrick Eaves 7 0 1 1 -1 10:59
L Fabian Brunnstrom 3 0 1 1 0 8:06
D Brad Stuart 14 0 0 0 -1 19:41
D Mike Commodore 2 0 0 0 0 12:01
C Gustav Nyquist 1 0 0 0 0 11:07

DET Goalies:
Ty Conklin 3, 1-2-0,  3.37,  0.882
Jimmy Howard 11,  7-3-1, 1.63,  0.934

DAL Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
L Jamie Benn 15 5 13 18 8 17:59
L Loui Eriksson 15 8 8 16 11 18:55
D Sheldon Souray 15 4 9 13 11 21:15
R Michael Ryder 15 6 5 11 9 16:36
C Mike Ribeiro 15 1 9 10 4 19:20
C Steve Ott 11 2 6 8 4 19:09
L Brenden Morrow 15 2 5 7 3 17:54
R Adam Burish 14 3 4 7 -1 13:06
L Vernon Fiddler 15 3 4 7 0 13:22
R Radek Dvorak 15 0 6 6 -1 13:19
D Alex Goligoski 15 2 4 6 -2 21:09
D Stephane Robidas 15 2 3 5 5 23:04
L Eric Nystrom 10 5 0 5 1 11:27
D Trevor Daley 15 1 3 4 7 22:05
R Krystofer Barch 6 0 0 0 0 6:39
C Toby Petersen 9 0 0 0 0 7:23
C Tomas Vincour 3 0 0 0 -1 8:13
C Tom Wandell 11 0 0 0 -2 8:26
C Jake Dowell 11 0 0 0 -2 8:27
D Philip Larsen 3 0 0 0 0 13:30
D Nicklas Grossman 12 0 0 0 6 18:30
D Mark Fistric 9 0 0 0 0 16:44
D Adam Pardy 6 0 0 0 -1 17:31

DAL Goalies:
Kari Lehtonen 13,  11-2-0,  2.20,  0.934
Andrew Raycroft   2,  0-2-0,  2.56,  0.907

TSN - HOT and NOT: 

DET: Hot:
Nicklas Lidstrom (D) 4 pts in last 3 GP
Niklas Kronwall (D) 4 pts in last 4 GP
Johan Franzen (LW/RW) 7 pts in last 3 GP
Valtteri Filppula (C/W) 3 pts in last 2 GP
Jiri Hudler (LW/RW) 2 pts in last 2 GP
Jimmy Howard (G) 3-0-0, 0.67, .972 in last 3 GPI

DET: Not Hot:
Tomas Holmstrom (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 6 GP

DAL: Hot:
Sheldon Souray (D) 7 pts in last 5 GP
Jamie Benn (W/C) 8 pts in last 4 GP
Loui Eriksson (RW/LW) 7 pts in last 4 GP
Michael Ryder (RW/LW) 7 pts in last 4 GP
Adam Burish (W/C) 2 pts in last 2 GP
Eric Nystrom (W/C) 4 pts in last 4 GP
Radek Dvorak (RW) 2 pts in last 2 GP
Vernon Fiddler (C) 6 pts in last 6 GP
Kari Lehtonen (G) 11-2-0, 2.20, .934 in last 13 GPI

DAL: Not Hot:
Brenden Morrow (LW) 1 pts in last 5 GP

Injury Report:

Todd Bertuzzi (RW/LW) Flu (Day to day)
Jan Mursak (RW/LW) Fractured ankle (Injured reserve)

Steve Ott (W/C) Hip injury (Injured reserve)

Jeff Sagarin NHL Ratings, USAToday

NHL 2010-2011 through games of 2011 NOVEMBER 11 FRIDAY

HOME ADVANTAGE=  0.19   RATING   W   L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16  

8 Detroit Red Wings     =  4.27   8   6   3.82(  24)  2   4 |  2   4
3 Dallas Stars         =  4.64   11   4   3.87(  23)  1   1 |  2   4
I can’t find squat from DET MSM (or may have overlooked it) on whether Jimmy Howard will play tonight.

The Dallas Morning News preview:

Key matchup: Jamie Benn vs. Pavel Datsyuk
Benn has drawn the toughest checking assignments for much of the season, so he’ll get to test himself against maybe the best two-way center in the NHL in Datsyuk.
Key stat: 0
Wins by Stars backup goalie Andrew Raycroft since he defeated Minnesota on Jan. 9. He has had only four starts in that span but has dropped all four. Raycroft is 0-2-0 this season with a 2.57 GAA and .907 save percentage.
Detroit: RW Todd Bertuzzi (flu) and RW Patrick Eaves (back) are questionable.
Dallas: LW Steve Ott (hip), D Alex Goligoski (hand) are out.
Dallas played in Pittsburgh on Friday and is expected to put Jake Dowell and Adam Pardy into the lineup for fresh legs. … Detroit played at home against Edmonton. … The Stars were 3-1-0 against the Red Wings last season, including winning both games in Detroit. … Dallas is 4-2-0 in its last six visits to Joe Louis Arena.


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Primis's avatar

No Steve Ott?

Shhyaaa… we got this.

Seriously though, a win tonight would announce to the NHL that the losing streak really was just a blip, and thet DET is for real.  They would have defeated the #2 and #3 teams in the West on B2B nights

With Raycroft in net,  no reason to expect anything less than a W.

Posted by Primis on 11/12/11 at 01:33 PM ET

sjketcheson's avatar

Datsyuk looked real good last night - one of those has got to go in eventually! Should be a good tilt tonight.

Posted by sjketcheson from the floor of the Hasek on 11/12/11 at 02:43 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Khan(!) has an update:

Jimmy Howard, who’s posted two shutouts in his past three games, will be in goal tonight. . .

No lineup changes for Detroit. Todd Bertuzzi (swelling in ear, sinus infection), Fabian Brunnstrom and Mike Commodore are out.

Andrew Raycroft (0-2, 2.57 GAA) in net for the Stars. 



Howard (starting)

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/12/11 at 03:09 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

Too bad Bruno isn’t getting the start against his former team…

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 11/12/11 at 03:12 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

Kinda surprised to see Howard back in. Have the Wings lost confidence in Conk?  I’m not sure I’m ready to see him back in either after his previous 2 games.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 11/12/11 at 03:31 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Have the Wings lost confidence in Conk?

I’m officially gonna start worrying about this.  Jimmy’s been great, but that’s all the more reason I’d rather see his regular season workload dialed down a bit.  The blueprint for this team hinges on defense and goaltending.  Any postseason success is going to require JHoward at the top of his game come springtime.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 11/12/11 at 03:44 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Babcock trying to shelter Conk from the home crowd a bit.  Nobody in Detroit is very happy with him right now and with Joey MacDonald feeling the effects of a concussion, now’s not the right time to risk breaking the confidence of your backup and have him booed out of the building.

I wonder if Babs gives him a chance Tuesday in St. Louis?

It’s not exactly like I want the Red Wings burning out their starter to keep their backup from cracking though.  The Wings play a lot of games in November and December; Conks is going to have to start playing some of them.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/12/11 at 03:49 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

Anyone think the Wings will try to make a trade for Nabakov?  He’s made it clear that he wants to be traded…

I have always liked Ty Conklin but the idea of him playing tonight scared the hell out of me.  Can’t figure it out at all.  He was stellar and then some in his first appearance against the Avs, earning high praise from his team mates.  Then the next two games, he was like a deer in the headlights.  Maybe Babcock is going to ease him back in by having him play against some lesser teams, but if they’ve lost confidence in him, they must be thinking about making some kind of move.

Anyway, loved what I saw last night and I want to see lots more of it tonight.  Hope the energy level and focus are what they were against the Oil.


cool smile

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 11/12/11 at 04:06 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

Thanks, Okie.

looking for expecting a “W” tonight.

healthy squad, at home, on a roll, jimmy playing sharp, PP ... um, well, ... 18th?
healthy squad, at home, on a roll, jimmy playing sharp, PK ... um, well, ... 21th?
healthy squad, at home, on a roll, jimmy playing sharp, 5-5 F/A 3rd!
... wait, ... what? Dallas 5-5 F/A 1st??? ... um, well, ...

healthy squad, at home, on a roll, jimmy playing sharp, S/G 2nd & SA/G 1st ...
so there’s hope?

yep <fingers crossed>


Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 11/12/11 at 04:23 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Thanks for a terrific GDT, Jeff.

It’s gonna be odd rooting against Glen Gulutzan since he was so successful as GM/head coach of the ECHL Wranglers and he was very well-liked in this town.  Would’ve loved to have seen him coach the Panthers instead of the Steers.

Go Wings!!!

Posted by SYF from Twerkin' with Anastasia Ashley on 11/12/11 at 04:25 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

I really like the team defense, although Edmonton did have multiple lengthy possessions in our zone, few really good scoring chances though.  Jimmy back to back, ok at this time of the year.  There’s sort of a mojo going on, don’t want to disrupt it while trying to climb back to a high winning percentage.


Posted by RWBill on 11/12/11 at 04:37 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Nabokov?  Hmm, I should check into that.  Wings do have cap space.  Still early in season, but Wings can’t be hesitant to use the back up.  If they’re concerned Conk has lost a step since he was last with the Wings then they can’t go through the last half of the season and into the playoffs like that.

Wings don’t break the bank on goalies, how much could they get Nabby for?

Posted by RWBill on 11/12/11 at 04:50 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

I wouldn’t give up a warm body for Nabokov. Maybe give the Islanders a fourth-rounder and a case of Ben-Gay for DiPietro.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/12/11 at 05:20 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

... for DiPietro to use, not to get him on our roster.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/12/11 at 05:21 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Nabokov is on a salary of $570,000 and a No Trade / Movement clause.  He is 36 years old.  He’s saving at a .911 this year.

If it turns out the Isles aren’t going anywhere this season, would they not prefer to trade him and get some return, a first round pick perhaps, rather than let the season expire and Nabby goes Unrestricted and they get nothing for him?

Good eyes, Ms. Red Winger.  The Conk Watch continues.

Posted by RWBill on 11/12/11 at 05:24 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

If Ken Holland gave up a first round pick for Evgeni Nabokov, I would mail him my dookie for a week.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/12/11 at 05:27 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

I don’t know what that is, but a first round pick seems too much.  However, as premature as the talk is, it could be an extremely low risk/high reward transaction, costing the team little with the potential of a solid professional goalie for a run down the stretch and through the playoffs.

Posted by RWBill on 11/12/11 at 05:42 PM ET


it could be an extremely low risk/high reward transaction

I’m not sure how high a reward you can get from a guy you’re going to hope will play 20-25 games…especially for a 1st or 2nd rounder…

Posted by Garth on 11/12/11 at 06:13 PM ET

monkey's avatar

Nicklas Lidstrom did not score a point in the Red Wings’ 3-0 victory over Edmonton but the 41-year-old defenseman logged more ice time (23:33) than any other skater on either team. It was a milestone victory for Lidstrom, who when the final buzzer sounded became the first man in NHL history to play in 900 regular-season wins by his team. On October 13, Lidstrom broke Chris Chelios’ old NHL record of 894 regular-season wins.

Posted by monkey from Prague on 11/12/11 at 07:07 PM ET

SYF's avatar

It was a milestone victory for Lidstrom, who when the final buzzer sounded became the first man in NHL history to play in 900 regular-season wins by his team. On October 13, Lidstrom broke Chris Chelios’ old NHL record of 894 regular-season wins.

Posted by monkey from slipping into a comma on 11/12/11 at 04:07 PM ET

No shit.  And we’re so lucky we’re witnesses to history.

Posted by SYF from Twerkin' with Anastasia Ashley on 11/12/11 at 08:05 PM ET

Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit's avatar

I have always liked Ty Conklin but the idea of him playing tonight scared the hell out of me.

Me too.

Thanks OAkie. Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 11/12/11 at 09:55 PM ET

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