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GDT - WC Semifinals, Game 4: Red Wings (0-3) host Sharks (3-0)  (7:30)

What do you say?  What is there to say?  Here is my two cents (but not an original thought as one of you other Bitches mentioned it previously):  The Wings have been “out-Red Winged” by their former coach.  DET has lost every game 4-3.  The difference has been that SJS control the puck just that much more than DET; so DET end up chasing the game and taking more penalties instead of vice versa. Yes, as noted by almost everyone, including many in the hockey MSM, DET was hosed on more than a few calls.  But if DET would win more freaking faceoffs (DET were schooled in SJS and managed just 50% faceoff wins at home), they aren’t in that position to begin with; and that Setoguchi goal at 19:56 was just inexcusable, unacceptable - gawd-awful.  SJS have played DET’s game better than DET have, I give them credit for that.

Of course, if SJS become only the third team in NHL history to lose a series after leading 3 games to none - - choke would be too mild an adjective to describe that team.  The odds are incredibly long (DET are 1-4 in their last five games), but it starts with one damn win.

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No caption needed.  Credit Guralnick, Detroit News.

End of Regular Season Records:

DET:  82 GP,  44-24-14,  102 pts, (5 in Conf, 2 in Central), 229 GF, 216 GA, Last 10 8-1-1, Won 3

SJS:  82 GP,  51-20-11,  113 pts, (1 in Conf, 1 in Pacific), 264 GF, 215 GA, Last 10 8-1-1, Won 3

DET on road:  19-14-8 (10th)
SJS at home:  27-6-8 (3rd)

Series Results:
29 APR, at SJS 3-4 L
2 MAY, at SJS 3-4 L
4 MAY, at DET 3-4 L (OT)

Final Regular Sesaon Stats (rank):

DET:  .622 point% (7), 2.72 G/G (14), 2.52 GA/G (7),  0.93 5-5 F/A (21), 19.2 PP% (9), 83.9 PK% (10), 33.4 S/G (2), 29.4 SA/G (9), 51.1 FO% (8).

SJS:  .689 point% (2), 3.13 G/G (4), 2.55 GA/G (8), 1.23 5-5 F/A (3), 21.0 PP% (4), 85.0 PK% (5), 31.7 S/G (6), 31.4 SA/G (20), 55.6 FO% (1).

Playoff Stats (rank):

DET:  .400 Win% (10), 3.50 G/G (3), 3.00 GA/G (10),  1.21 5-5 F/A (4), 20.0 PP% (8), 81.8 PK% (7), 34.6 S/G (3), 32.6 SA/G (11), 50.3 FO% (8).

SJS:  .778 Win% (1), 3.44 G/G (4), 2.22 GA/G (1), 1.18 5-5 F/A (5), 18.8 PP% (10), 88.5 PK% (3), 38.9 S/G (2), 26.4 SA/G (2), 53.4 FO% (4).


Playoff Goal Differential/Game:
DET = + 0.50
SJS = +1.22


Playoff Player Stats:

DET Skaters:
POS Player GP G A PTS +/-  ATOI
L Henrik Zetterberg 10 7 6 13 7 20:14 - - #3 in points, #3 in goals
C Pavel Datsyuk 10 6 6 12 3 18:37 - - #4 in goals
C Johan Franzen 10 2 9 11 4 17:26 - - #2 in assists
D Brian Rafalski 10 1 8 9 2 23:40
D Nicklas Lidstrom 10 4 4 8 26:44
C Valtteri Filppula 10 3 5 8 1 18:34
L Tomas Holmstrom 10 4 2 6 3 13:26
D Brad Stuart 10 2 4 6 6 24:21
R Todd Bertuzzi 10 1 4 5 0 16:41
D Niklas Kronwall 10 0 5 5 0 23:32
R Dan Cleary 10 2 0 2 3 15:09
D Jonathan Ericsson 10 0 2 2 1 12:45
L Drew Miller 10 1 1 2 2 12:21
L Justin Abdelkader 9 1 1 2 1 7:28
C Darren Helm 10 1 0 1 -4 13:40
C Kris Draper 10 0 0 0 0 7:33
D Andreas Lilja 9 0 0 0 1 10:15
C Jason Williams 3 0 0 0 -1 8:12
R Patrick Eaves 8 0 0 0 -3 11:57
D Brett Lebda 1 0 0 0 0 8:53

DET Goalies:
Player GPI W L OT GAA PCT
Jimmy Howard 10, 4-6,  2.99, 0.908

SJS Skaters:
POS Player GP G A PTS +/-  ATOI
C Joe Pavelski 9 9 6 15 8 21:42 - - #1 in goals, #2 in points, #2 in +/-
L Ryane Clowe 9 2 8 10 6 20:34 - - #3 in assists
D Dan Boyle 9 2 7 9 4 1 27:23
L Dany Heatley 8 1 8 9 0 20:35
C Joe Thornton 9 2 6 8 -3 21:06
R Devin Setoguchi 9 5 3 8 6 19:11
D Douglas Murray 9 1 5 6 4 20:27
C Patrick Marleau 8 2 3 5 -1 21:42
C Logan Couture 9 3 0 3 2 10:57
D Jason Demers 9 0 3 3 -1 13:37
D Rob Blake 9 1 1 2 2 0 23:58
C Scott Nichol 9 1 1 2 0 9:22
C Torrey Mitchell 9 0 2 2 -1 12:36
D Marc-Edouard Vlasic 9 0 2 2 2 22:13
C Manny Malhotra 9 1 0 1 0 16:46
C Dwight Helminen 6 1 0 1 0 5:43
R Jed Ortmeyer 4 0 1 1 -1 6:58
D Kent Huskins 9 0 0 0 -2 12:25
D Niclas Wallin 1 0 0 0 0 14:29
L Jamie McGinn 9 0 0 0 1 8:01

SJS Goalies:
Player GPI W L OT GAA PCT
Evgeni Nabokov 9,  7-2,  2.14,  0.916 - - #1 in GAA, # 5 in Save%

Injury Report:
DET:
Kirk Maltby (RW/LW) Shoulder surgery (Early April)
Patrick Eaves (RW) Right elbow injury (Day to day)

SJS:
Niclas Wallin (D): Lower body injury
Brad Staubitz (RW) Lower body injury (Day to day)

HOT and NOT:  

DET: Hot:
Brian Rafalski (D) 7 pts in last 4 GP
Nicklas Lidstrom (D) 5 pts in last 4 GP
Pavel Datsyuk (C/LW) 9 pts in last 6 GP
Henrik Zetterberg (C/LW) 13 pts in last 9 GP
Johan Franzen (LW/RW) 4 pts in last 3 GP
Tomas Holmstrom (RW/LW) 2 pts in last 2 GP

DET: Not Hot:
Niklas Kronwall (D) 0 pts in last 4 GP
Todd Bertuzzi (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Jimmy Howard (G) 0-3-0, 3.88, .886 in last 3 GPI


SJS: Hot:
Joe Pavelski (C/RW) 10 pts in last 4 GP  Otherworldly
Joe Thornton (C) 4 pts in last 2 GP
Dany Heatley (RW/LW) 5 pts in last 3 GP
Ryane Clowe (LW/RW) 7 pts in last 6 GP
Devin Setoguchi (RW/LW) 5 pts in last 5 GP
Patrick Marleau (LW/C) 4 pts in last 4 GP

SJS: Not Hot:
Manny Malhotra (C/W) 0 pts in last 7 GP

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Eaves out again, Ritola in for J-Won’t (hit the damn net)?  Khan(!):

With the Red Wings trailing the series 3-0, Babcock said he hadn’t decided whether to insert a fresh forward into the lineup. One possibility would be putting Mattias Ritola in for Jason Williams.

There was a switch on the top two lines, as Johan Franzen and Valtteri Filppula traded spots:

Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi

But that doesn’t mean he’ll start the game that way.

The other two lines looked like this:

May-Miller-Williams (Mursak working in)
Draper-Abdelkader-Ritola

But that doesn’t mean anything because Helm and Cleary are expected to play.

On defense, Babcock said he hadn’t decided if he’ll use Brett Lebda, as he did the last game, or Andreas Lilja.

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PaulinMiamiBeach's avatar

now here comes everybody freaking out about seeing May’s name listed.

as for Lebda vs Lilja, I think Lebda is the better choice.  his speed paid off.  Lilja simply can’t keep up.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 05/06/10 at 11:32 AM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

As an aside - - if you go to the Wings Official site - http://www.nhl.com/redwings/ - they have a survey for you, 

AND

an opportunity to win a #5 sweater signed by the entire team.

Good Luck Bitches.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 05/06/10 at 11:37 AM ET

pgoody's avatar

Me in 13 hours:

RSV. Bitches.

Posted by pgoody on 05/06/10 at 11:37 AM ET

pgoody's avatar

an opportunity to win a #5 sweater signed by the entire team.

Who wears #5?

Posted by pgoody on 05/06/10 at 11:38 AM ET

FranzensMouthguard's avatar

All I ask for is some heart, not like the 3rd period of game 3 where we were like kevin bacon being smacked on the ass and saying “thank you sir, can I have another?” If they come out like that and just give up, I will be seriously pissed, we’re the damn red wings, we do not give up and we better fuching not go softly into that dark night

Posted by FranzensMouthguard from Chicago, IL on 05/06/10 at 11:51 AM ET

DigitalGypsy66's avatar

Good luck tonight.

Let’s hope it’s not Lidstrom’s last game either.

Posted by DigitalGypsy66 on 05/06/10 at 11:53 AM ET

FranzensMouthguard's avatar

Also recommending that fine 80’s song by romeo void “never say never” for tonight, or from rocky 4 survivors “no easy way out”

Posted by FranzensMouthguard from Chicago, IL on 05/06/10 at 11:55 AM ET

Moq's avatar

Who wears #5?

I hope you’re being facetious.

Good luck to the Red Wings.

Posted by Moq from Denmark on 05/06/10 at 11:59 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Let’s
Go
Red
Wings

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 05/06/10 at 12:00 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

I’ve been working about 60 hours a week since the beginning of March…so honestly, I haven’t caught much hockey, much less playoff hockey this year. As much as I’d love to see round 3 in a few weeks…I’m just not into it this year.

Sacrilege maybe, but…it just seems the Wings share my feelings. Some nights they give a damn, Game 4…Game 7 against the Jets…but it seems since they figured out they’d make the playoffs…that switch has been shut off.

If they lose…well…that’s an extra few weeks off that maybe will make a difference next year. Sad to say it, but that’s how I feel. I just hope for one thing; this isn’t Jimmy Howard’s fault. I’ve seen the highlights, and most of the archived games on the paysite. Sure he hasn’t looked too sharp at times, but hell, this is the kid’s first second season. I’d say he’s done well. Don’t run him out like they did to Legace…if anything…Howard has proven he’s a good netminder, and he will improve next spring.

Nick? Come back. Sure you know what you are capable of, and you know things just don’t come automatically like they used to. You’re still the best D-man in the league.

All this said…LGRW. At least make Todd beat you back on the left coast.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 05/06/10 at 12:02 PM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

No caption needed.  Credit Guralnick, Detroit News.

That pic is the backgound on my laptop at home.
This will not be the last game of the season for us.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 05/06/10 at 12:08 PM ET

Guilherme's avatar

Today, I want to win just to avoid the sweep. (and because Corinthians was eliminated from Libertadores yesterday and I can’t handle two eliminations in a row)

Saturday, I want to win so the Sharks fail in front of their crowd.

Monday, I’ll want to win to avoid meing eliminated at home,

Wednesday, I’ll want to win to close the greatest comeback ever.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 05/06/10 at 12:15 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

One.
Game.
At.
A.
Time.

Believe.

L.G.R.W.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 05/06/10 at 12:24 PM ET

Alan's avatar

L.G.R.W

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 05/06/10 at 12:41 PM ET

Twig in Houston's avatar

i remember 2 years ago when the wings were up 3-0 on the dive. mainly due to injuries, but no one seemed even the slightest bit concerned that colorado would come back. it’s different with the wings this year. even a sharks blog is holding off on the parade. they know this is far from over.

this is going to be epic.

Posted by Twig in Houston from Houston, TX on 05/06/10 at 12:51 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

LIVE morning skate.

(from the H2H section)

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 05/06/10 at 01:07 PM ET

AndrewFromAnnArbor's avatar

Hockeytown: No Excuses.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 05/06/10 at 01:07 PM ET

hockeychic's avatar

I BELIEVE!

LET’S GO RED WINGS!!!!!

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 05/06/10 at 01:08 PM ET

Osrt's avatar

Good luck to the Red Wings.

Posted by Moq

Thanks man.

I feel tranquil about tonight probably because of the numerous sedatives I’ve been mixing, cocktail like. You should try it sometime. Anyway, thanks Jeff.

Since Van and Chi are beating the snot out of each other, I would assume that SJS will come out of the West. If I see Thronton lift the Cup, I may puncture a hole in my sack and watch the blood drip out slowly.

Btw, when did Chicago, specifically Bufyuglin (sp?) become goonish. Everyone was trying to take Luongo’s head off. Even Towes didn’t do anything to avoid him.

Posted by Osrt on 05/06/10 at 01:10 PM ET

Osrt's avatar

p.s. Wings in 7

Posted by Osrt on 05/06/10 at 01:11 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Btw, when did Chicago, specifically Bufyuglin (sp?) become goonish. Everyone was trying to take Luongo’s head off. Even Towes didn’t do anything to avoid him.


Fugly’s always been kind of a goon, but the rest of the squad is doing it because they know it works.  Luongo has a reputation as a whiner, so Chicago knows they can get away with a little bit more than usual and take Vancouver off their game that way. 

If the Wings can’t complete the epic comeback and the Hawks make it past Vancouver, I’m interested to see how it will work out.  Nabokov isn’t a whiner, but he sure is a diver.  I don’t think Chicago will keep up the run-the-goalie strategy against San Jose.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 05/06/10 at 01:13 PM ET

pgoody's avatar

Btw, when did Chicago, specifically Bufyuglin (sp?) become goonish. Everyone was trying to take Luongo’s head off. Even Towes didn’t do anything to avoid him.

Our refs (SJ-DET series)  would have loved that game, goalie interferences all over the place…

Posted by pgoody on 05/06/10 at 01:17 PM ET

hockeychic's avatar

speaking of refs, do we know who the zebras are going to be tonight?

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 05/06/10 at 01:31 PM ET

pgoody's avatar

Who wears #5?

I hope you’re being facetious.

Good luck to the Red Wings.

Posted by Moq from Denmark on 05/06/10 at 09:59 AM ET

Wow, you’re sharp…

Posted by pgoody on 05/06/10 at 01:32 PM ET

calquake's avatar

WIN… one shift… one period… one game.  There is no tomorrow.

Posted by calquake on 05/06/10 at 01:36 PM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

Per Khan (!).
Lebbie out, Lils in. J-Won’t out & Ritola in (probably).

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 05/06/10 at 01:39 PM ET

Primis's avatar

If they come out flat tonight, offseason changes need to happen.

Either leave it ALL out on the ice, or go home and don’t come to the rink.

The refs will hand this one to the Sharks anyways at whatever cost to the integrity of the game, but the Wings could at least make them pay in blood for it.

Posted by Primis on 05/06/10 at 01:40 PM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 05/06/10 at 11:07 AM ET

Too bad the quality is sheit.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 05/06/10 at 01:42 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Wow, you’re sharp…

Posted by pgoody from the 2nd season, 2010, Howard’s run… on 05/06/10 at 11:32 AM ET

Not just sharp, DREW Sharp!!

Posted by Primis on 05/06/10 at 01:43 PM ET

Alan's avatar

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 05/06/10 at 11:39 AM ET

I just read that. Jason Williams sitting is awesome news.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 05/06/10 at 01:56 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

speaking of refs, do we know who the zebras are going to be tonight?

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 05/06/10 at 11:31 AM ET

Khan(!) - - via MO:

They might make one switch on their top two lines, as Valtteri Filppula practiced with Pavel Datsyuk and Tomas Holmstrom on Wednesday. So the lines, at least at the start, might look like this:

Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi
Miller-Helm-Cleary
Draper-Abdelkader-Ritola

Coach Mike Babcock said Patrick Eaves (elbow) is the only player out due to an injury. So defenseman Brian Rafalski (back) is good to go.

Tonight’s referees are Chris Lee and Bill McCreary.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 05/06/10 at 02:01 PM ET

pgoody's avatar

Lebbie out, Lils in. J-Won’t out & Ritola in (probably).

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 05/06/10 at 11:39 AM ET

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dDFIHfTFqg

Posted by pgoody on 05/06/10 at 02:02 PM ET

Triple Deke Tyler's avatar

Fugly’s always been kind of a goon, but the rest of the squad is doing it because they know it works.  Luongo has a reputation as a whiner, so Chicago knows they can get away with a little bit more than usual and take Vancouver off their game that way.

You forgot about how Vancouver thinks the league is always against them.  *#$%@& tin foil-wearing *#$%@&.

Posted by Triple Deke Tyler from Lansing on 05/06/10 at 02:02 PM ET

Twig in Houston's avatar

Tonight’s referees are Chris Lee and Bill McCreary.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 05/06/10 at 12:01 PM ET

i’ve always felt that mccreary is one of the better refs in the league. i was hoping for him.

Posted by Twig in Houston from Houston, TX on 05/06/10 at 02:07 PM ET

pgoody's avatar

i’ve always felt that mccreary is one of the better refs in the league. i was hoping for him.

Posted by Twig in Houston on 05/06/10 at 12:07 PM ET

That’s because he never calls anything so there is nothing to bitch about…

Posted by pgoody on 05/06/10 at 02:08 PM ET

Osrt's avatar

Posted by J.J. from Kansas

Makes sense. And I see your Eharmony designated admirer is following you around today.

Posted by Triple Deke Tyler

Dude, you know you avatar is like so 90s right?

Posted by Osrt on 05/06/10 at 02:08 PM ET

Twig in Houston's avatar

of course, being one of the best refs in the nhl is like having the biggest penis in china. it means nothing.

Posted by Twig in Houston from Houston, TX on 05/06/10 at 02:08 PM ET

Triple Deke Tyler's avatar

Dude, you know you avatar is like so 90s right?

I guess it can’t hurt to change it; 0-3 this series with me living in the past.  Let me start digging.

Posted by Triple Deke Tyler from Lansing on 05/06/10 at 02:12 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

I guess it can’t hurt to change it

Dude - - it is way past time for the Nannerpuss(!)

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 05/06/10 at 02:14 PM ET

Behind_Enemy_Lines's avatar

TY for GDT Okie, and the survey. Awesome pic too.

I believe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vTgtxrxag0

Posted by Behind_Enemy_Lines from Evanston,IL on 05/06/10 at 02:16 PM ET

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