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TAMPA BAY- “Tampa Bay Lightning captain Steven Stamkos suffered a lateral meniscus tear in his right knee during the team’s game against the Detroit Red Wings Tuesday night and will remain out of the lineup indefinitely,” said Lightning General Manager Steve Yzerman. “We are in the process of evaluating options for repair and rehabilitation and will release more information as it becomes available.”
At this point, Stamkos has yet to return.
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added 8:41pm, Lightning announce lower-body injury, will not return.
Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman penned an absolutely fantastic feature article discussing the trio of moves that shook the hockey world on June 29th, 2016, and his article's more than worth your time:
Did they know? Did Marc Bergevin, Peter Chiarelli, David Poile, Ray Shero and Steven Stamkos know they were going to set the NHL on its ear one early summer afternoon?
“We knew what we were doing but had no idea what everyone else was up to,” New Jersey GM Shero said last weekend. “You know this is going to get out, so we’re trying to get hold of Adam Larsson. All of a sudden, you hear the other moves, and you’re like, ‘Holy (Bleep).’”
“July 1 is a landslide, but you expect it,” said Chiarelli, Edmonton’s President of Hockey Operations and GM. “The last thing you’re thinking about is someone else’s deal. We had the TV on, and the moves came across the ticker. I did a double-take. Wow.”
“In my world, none of that other stuff mattered,” laughed Poile, Nashville’s President of Hockey Operations and GM. “I still don’t know the order of the three moves.”
At 2:34 p.m. ET on Wednesday July 29 — seven minutes after intense speculation about Taylor Hall hit Twitter — his trade to the Devils for Larsson was a reality. It’s almost impossible to believe there could be a bigger one-for-one deal in the same afternoon, but 17 minutes later came an absolute blockbuster: Shea Weber for P.K. Subban.
Then, at 2:57 p.m., word came that #Stammergeddon was over. Steven Stamkos stayed in Tampa.
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from Shawn Jeffords of the Toronto Sun,
It was news Toronto Maple Leafs fans didn’t wanted to hear.
And it’s clear John Tory’s staff didn’t want the mayor breaking it to Leafs Nation. But that was potentially the scenario when Tory faced questions in late June about being part of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment’s hush-hush meeting to woo Markham-born NHL superstar Steven Stamkos.
According to documents obtained by the Toronto Sun through a Freedom of Information request, media questions about a meeting between Stamkos, Tory and MLSE, put the mayor in the tough position of potentially have to break the devastating news to the city’s hockey fans before Stamkos made his announcement.
Tory’s staff knew the top free agent was staying in Tampa Bay before the general public, a series of e-mails show.
"Victor and I are extremely close friends, we came up in this organization as 18-year-old kids. To say that we're going to be together for the long run, and on one team, that's something special. We have talked a lot throughout this process. I joke with him that sometimes I forget the time difference (with Sweden) and I'm calling him at 4 in the morning. But he's always getting back to me as quick as he can. It was extremely exciting to see him sign. A big reason why both of us stuck around is because of the relationship that we have as teammates and as friends as well."
-Steven Stamkos of the Tampa Bay Lightning. Pierre LeBrun of ESPN has much more on Stamkos plus other hockey notes...
Leading off a 1 AM-posted edition of "30 Thoughts" (I guess it's been that kind of day for Elliotte Friedman, too):
On a crazy day where Steven Stamkos signing in Tampa Bay could arguably be the third-biggest hockey story, the most unanswered question has to be: “Why couldn’t Montreal and Edmonton work out a Taylor Hall-P.K. Subban deal?”
The Oilers sure could’ve used Subban. We knew they were talking last week. Montreal initially asked for Leon Draisaitl, the No. 4 pick at Friday’s draft and more. That “more” included either Oscar Klefbom and Darnell Nurse, plus something else. I can’t nail down what that “something else” was, but it was not insignificant. It was a big price to pay, and Edmonton did not want to do that.
According to several sources, there was another possibility — without Draisaitl. Was Hall there? I can’t say for sure. But I do think he’s got fans in the Montreal organization. So, why didn’t it happen?
Here’s a quote from a GM on a different team: “How much are you paying Connor McDavid in two years? If you’re budgeting for $10M-11M, that’s $19M-$20M for him and Subban. Can you do it under this tighter cap?”
I would suspect that’s the reason.
With McDavid’s next contract potentially massive, Peter Chiarelli looked elsewhere. The Hall-for-Adam Larsson deal saves Edmonton more than $1.8M in cap room. No doubt that’s why it was a one-for-one trade. New Jersey GM Ray Shero could say, “I’m adding salary, I’m not giving up anything else.” He took a hard line.
TAMPA BAY – The Tampa Bay Lightning have re-signed captain Steven Stamkos to an eight-year contract, vice president and general manager Steve Yzerman announced today.
Stamkos, 26, played in 77 games with the Lightning last season, recording 36 goals and 64 points to go along with 38 penalty minutes. He ranked first on the Bolts for goals and was second for points. Stamkos also ranked tied for seventh in the NHL for goals and was tied for fourth for power-play goals with 14. He led the team for shots on goal with 216 and led all Lightning forwards for average time on ice (19:45).
from Chris Johnston of Sportsnet,
The Stamkos camp, led by agent Don Meehan of Newport Sports, essentially controls the situation. They’ve had an open interview period to speak with rival teams since Saturday and also enjoy the protection of a no-movement clause in the player’s expiring deal.
As a result, they would have to be central in orchestrating the first sign-and-trade agreement in NHL history.
For teams looking to add Stamkos there may even be a benefit to completing that sort of maneuver with the Lightning. They would have to part with an asset, sure, but it also offers the chance to lower the player’s eventual cap hit by spreading it over eight years rather than the maximum seven they could offer on the open market.
(If Stamkos’s price is $80-million over the length of the deal, for example, that amounts to an $11.43-million annual cap hit on a seven-year contract and $10-million on an eight).
from Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times,
Aside from being seemingly the best on-ice fit, the Lightning, which is believed to have offered Stamkos an extension worth $8.5 million annually, holds a couple x-factors over other suitors — there's no state income tax in Florida and the Lightning is the only team that can offer him an eight-year contract (others only seven).
As a Tampa Bay Times analysis in January showed, Stamkos could net nearly the same annually after taxes in Tampa Bay at $8.5 million as $10 million in New York (Rangers, Islanders), presuming he'd be a New York City resident; Stamkos would make more over the length of the deal in Tampa because of the extra year. Stamkos would net $500,000 less annually than a $10 million deal with Detroit, another strong suitor, but, again, more over the length of the deal.
And Stamkos' hometown Maple Leafs, due to a 53.53 percent combined federal/provincial tax rate, would have to offer him $12.37 million annually over seven years to net the same as he'd make over eight years at $8.5 million in Tampa, according to national sports tax guru Robert Raiola, the director of the Sports and Entertainment group at PKF O'Connor Davis, who has professional sports clients throughout the country.
from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,
So now what?
Well, it’s time for the suitors to make their intentions known.
"We're going to chase the big fish," Buffalo Sabres GM Tim Murray said in confirming his team’s long-rumored interest in Stamkos.
Deputy commissioner Bill Daly confirmed Saturday that teams are allowed to publicly talk about their interest in other teams' pending UFAs now that the speaking window has opened.
And the Sabres, well, yeah, they will be in full pursuit of Stamkos. But they expect big-time competition....
I asked Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland to confirm his long-rumored interest in Stamkos after the draft on Saturday -- which became even more realistic after shedding Pavel Datsyuk's cap hit in a trade with the Arizona Coyotes on Friday -- but he declined to talks about Stamkos, pointing out that he didn't see the merit in revealing his UFA game plan to the world.
Nevertheless, it's absolutely 100 percent guaranteed that the Red Wings will make an offer to Stamkos. The Vancouver Canucks and, of course, his hometown Toronto Maple Leafs are among the other potential suitors, and some other teams might surprise.
All of which must be so deflating to Lightning GM Steve Yzerman, who has maintained impressive decorum throughout this process but especially in the last few days, when he had to watch the UFA window open up for other teams without having Stamkos re-signed.
more plus topics like Kevin Shattenkirk, Cam Fowler and others...
I know the Stamkos talk will be one of the major topics in the next week and I assure you KK will not become SS during that time, I will be selective in the talk...
Other teams can now talk to Steven Stamkos but the TSN Hockey Panel explains why that doesn't mean he's done with the Lightning. They also look at a move the Red Wings made that will help them pursue Stamkos.
Watch James Duthie, Darren Dreger, Pierre LeBrun and Bob McKenzie here, available for all geo locations. They also discussed the Edmonton Oilers, Kevin Shattenkirk, Ben Bishop, Marc-Andre Fleury and contract situations in San Jose.
from Pat Hickey of the Montreal Gazette,
It didn’t take long for Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin to shoot down reports that P.K. Subban was on his way out of Montreal.
“I never shopped P.K. Subban,” Bergevin said to open a press conference Thursday night. “I never had, I’m not now. But I can’t help teams from calling me.”
When asked if he foresaw the possibility of trading Subban, he said no but he said there might be a chance “if someone offered me half their team.” Presumably, the team would have to be Pittsburgh or Chicago and he would want the half that had Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin and Kris Letang or Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews and Duncan Keith.
There’s a school of thought that Bergevin must hit a home run at this weekend’s NHL draft or in the free agent market which opens on July 1.
But when Bergevin was asked Thursday evening whether he felt any pressure to make a big move, he replied: “Not at all.”
from Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times,
from Frank Seravalli of TSN,
Saturday marks not only a date of significance for the Steven Stamkos saga in Tampa Bay, but also a date in which we could see some sort of resolution.
Teams can begin the courting process with unrestricted free agents on Saturday, a full five days before they are permitted to sign on July 1.
The next 48 hours will be crucial in the Lightning’s hopes to re-sign Stamkos, who at 26 is on track to become the youngest superstar ever to hit the open market after nearly a year of unfruitful negotiations.
Lightning GM Steve Yzerman hinted to the Tampa Bay Times this week that time is running out to make a deal - maybe even sooner than next week. With so many other pressing needs for the Lightning, it seems entirely possible that the Lightning could make a final “best offer” on Friday before wishing Stamkos well and moving in another direction.
"We're doing all we can to sign him."
"What we look like if Stammer re-signs with us, it effects what we can do with our team. For us, we'd like to know sooner than later."
"At some point on other players, I have to make a decisions, whether it'd be restricted free agents, or potential trades or qualifying offers and things like that. I've got to make decisions and they can't be put off forever."
-Steve Yzerman on Steven Stamkos. Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times has more.
from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,
As far as I can tell, I don’t believe the Montreal Canadiens are phoning teams about him. However, I know of at least one team that’s contacted the Habs about Subban, and it didn’t go anywhere.
Which is to say: I would put the odds of Subban getting traded before July 1 at about 5 percent. But I’m not ready to say it’s 100 percent it won’t happen because you just never know what kind of offer might come the way of GM Marc Bergevin.
"I don’t think they’re moving Subban but I also think Bergevin has to listen because why not?" said one Western Conference NHL team executive. "But it would take a huge offer. I don’t see it happening."...
Crazy to think that some people looked at the success the Tampa Bay Lightning had without Steven Stamkos in the playoffs and figured maybe the team would not even try to re-sign him. Seriously? Nothing has changed. The Lightning absolutely, positively want to re-sign their captain and that’s been communicated to him again since their season ended in chat between GM Steve Yzerman and the star center. Now it’s a question of how that plays out the next few weeks with the clock ticking toward his unrestricted free-agent status on July 1. The Lighting want him back but obviously at a term and price that fits into everything else they’re trying to do with so many key players up for new deals over the next two years. Ultimately, it’s going to come down to Stamkos and what he truly wants: if he wants to stay, and he has said as much, a deal will be there for him. If he wants to maximize on his UFA status, which is his right, no question a bigger offer awaits elsewhere July 1.
read on for Milan Lucic talk and a few other topics...
from Tom Gulitti of NHL.com,
The emotions were still too raw for Steven Stamkos to ponder what comes next for him.
The Tampa Bay Lightning captain had worked so hard and endured so much to get back in time to play in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Final on Thursday, and there was a lot for him to digest after the season-ending 2-1 loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins. A question about whether he had considered that this might have been his final game as a member of the Lightning produced a curt reply.
"No," Stamkos said.
Stamkos' future with the Lightning appears murky at best; his contract is set to expire and unrestricted free agency awaits him on July 1. But it was understandable that the future was the furthest thing from his mind Thursday.
Playing in his first game in eight weeks after recovering from surgery to clear a blood clot near his right collarbone, Stamkos had hoped to spark the Lightning past the Penguins and to their second trip in as many years to the Stanley Cup Final.
"All the adversity that we overcame as a group, I couldn't be more proud of the guys with how far we came with the injuries that we had," a teary-eyed Stamkos said. "I feel horrible for the guys that battled every night. I was able to play one game, but those guys had a [heck] of a postseason. It was just an honor to be on the ice with those guys tonight. Too bad the result wasn't better."
Scott Oake reports from Pittsburgh where it has been hard to read the momentum in the series between the Penguins and Tampa Bay Lightning and the possibility that maybe Steven Stamkos will play in Game 7.
“There’s still a chance that I can play in this series and there’s still a chance that I may not be able to play in the rest of the playoffs, that’s honestly the truth. It’s tough for me to feel so physically close, but like I said before, whether it’s Game 3 or 4 or 5 (he plays) or coming to the reality that it’s not in the best interest of my long-term health to play in the playoffs, those are the questions that we’re getting closer and closer to getting answered every day.
“We’re doing our due diligence with regards to making sure we’re seeing the right medical personnel and opinions that we can and going forward from there.”
-Steven Stamkos of the Tampa Bay Lightning. Chris Johnston of Sportsnet has more.
from Chris Johnston of Sportsnet,
The Tampa Bay Lightning captain skated in a normal practice sweater at Consol Energy Center on Sunday afternoon and said afterwards that he had started experimenting with a medication that he could continue to take while playing.
While he’s not expected to suit up for Game 2 against Pittsburgh on Monday night, these appear to be positive steps toward an eventual return.
Stamkos had surgery for a blood clot near his right collarbone area on April 4 and has remained on blood thinners ever since. It had originally been thought he need to be completely clear of those in order to play, but the Lightning are working on another solution.
“There’s different ways around it when it comes to that,” Stamkos told Sportsnet and the Toronto Sun on Sunday. “There’s different options that we’ve explored. There’s injectable blood-thinning medication that I’m on right now.
“There have been guys that have played in this league who are on it.”
added 12:33pm, also from Joe Smith,
Anton Stralman not playing tonight. But feeling better. Hopes to play in series
from Michael Traikos at the Toronto Sun,
According to sports tax guru Robert Raiola, even if Stamkos is paid $10 million per year he would actually take home less annually by playing in Toronto ($4.3 million after taxes and agent fees) than he would in Tampa Bay for only $8.5 million ($4.6 million).
“In order for Stamkos to go to Canada, they would have to pay him a lot more money than what he would have gotten to stay in Tampa Bay,” said Raiola, a senior manager at O’Connor Davies LLP, who has professional sports clients throughout the country. “Do I think it factors into free agency? Absolutely. I think in any sport where you have a cap, the teams that don’t have a state tax have a huge advantage.”
It does not get any easier if Stamkos were to sign in Montreal, where the combined statutory marginal income tax rate is 53.31%, or Winnipeg (50.4%), Calgary or Edmonton (48%) or Vancouver (47.7%). In fact, Ontario and Quebec have a higher tax rate than any state in the U.S., while Manitoba, Alberta and B.C. also rank among the top 10 of states/provinces with an NHL team.
It is just one of the many reasons Canadian teams not only have a harder time attracting top-end free agents, but also signing them at market value.
TAMPA BAY – Tampa Bay Lightning forward Steven Stamkos underwent successful surgery this afternoon to treat a type of Vascular Thoracic Outlet Syndrome (called Effort Thrombosis) which was located near his right collarbone, vice president and general manager Steve Yzerman announced today. The two-hour procedure was performed at Tampa General Hospital by Dr. Karl Illig, Director of Vascular Surgery at the University of South Florida. Stamkos is expected to fully recover and he should be able to return to the ice in 1-3 months.
“Everything went as expected for Steven today,” said Dr. Illig after the procedure. “We plan to re-evaluate him in about two weeks and we should know more about his prognosis at that time.”
from Erik Erlendsson of the Tampa Tribune,
... now one has to wonder how far this team, which made the Stanley Cup Final last season, can go without the team’s top goal scorer and captain after already losing top defenseman Anton Stralman to a fractured leg last week.
And with Stamkos scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season, the real possibility that Stamkos has played his final game with the Lightning became a reality. Any contract talks have not proven to gain any traction to this point and he will be free to sign with any team on July 1 should the two sides not come together on an extension before then.
Until then, Tampa Bay will learn exactly what life could look like with Stamkos in the lineup as they look to clinch a playoff spot on a four-game road trip to end the season, which starts Monday at the New York Islanders. Tampa Bay would have to advance at least past the first round for Stamkos to have any chance to suit up in a Lightning uniform again this season.
“Obviously this situation is extremely disappointing because I wanted to help my team clinch a playoff spot and prepare for the start of the postseason,’’ Stamkos said in a statement released by the team. “During my recover I will do all I can to help my teammates and I hope to rejoin them soon in the Stanley Cup Playoffs.’’
The Hockey Central panel breaks down how Steven Stamkos’ absence will affects the Tampa Bay Lightning, but first stressed how seriously scary a diagnosis of a blood clot in the arm is for anyone, let alone an athlete.
added 10:22pm, Tampa release is below....
from Marin Fennelly of the Tampa Tribune,
Lightning coach Jon Cooper fiddles while Steven Stamkos burns.
Wouldn’t it be easier if Cooper just drove Stamkos to the airport right now?
I Iforget. Is Air Canada on the blue- or red-side drop-off?...
So naturally Cooper had to tweak.
If it ain’t broke, fix it....
But why mess with No. 91 right now, when Stamkos is playing well? Why does Stamkos move to the wing? Why not Filppula? Why is Stamkos always the one who has to budge?
You’d be wrong if you think people around hockey don’t notice this.
Stamkos and Cooper say the right things in public. No matter.
There’s a problem here.
It’s time to check those egos. Especially you, Coop.
from Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun,
Lost in all the conversation and conjecture of where Steven Stamkos may or may not be playing next season is this: Is Stamkos having a poor season with the Tampa Bay Lightning or is this now where he finds himself as an NHL player?
The one thing Stamkos has always done is score. Most of the time when healthy, he has been alongside Alexander Ovechkin as the best or second-best goal scorer in hockey. And here is Ovechkin, once again, leading the NHL in goals.
And there is Stamkos, 13th in goal scoring, alongside Mike Hoffman and Tyler Toffoli and his teammate, Nikita Kucherov.
Thirteenth in goal scoring and 39th in points, behind five defencemen and a list of players who would not normally be considered anywhere close to his equal.
Is this because Stamkos is playing the wing instead of centre? Is this because Jon Cooper has altered his role somewhat? Or is this just an off year at the worst of times for the pending free agent?
continued plus additional hockey notes...
TAMPA BAY - Tampa Bay Lightning vice president and general manager Steve Yzerman issued the following statement today regarding Steven Stamkos:
“As February 29th approaches, I am stating today that Steven Stamkos will not be traded before the NHL’s trade deadline. I have said repeatedly that it is our hope to reach an agreement with Steven on a new contract at some point, and with 27 games remaining in the season, our entire organization, Steven included, wants to focus on making the playoffs. I will keep the negotiating process strictly between the involved parties and have no further comment on the state of those negotiations.”
from Mike Harrington of the Buffalo News,
Tim Murray needs Steven Stamkos. He thought he needed Mike Babcock too but that ended up with the Detroit coach simply leveraging Buffalo on his way to Toronto. The Babcock affair comes to mind with all the chatter on Canadian sports giant TSN in recent days after the Dion Phaneuf trade opened a lot of cap space for the Leafs.
Suddenly, the thinking is that Stamkos may actually find it more palatable to sign in Buffalo come free agency if he doesn’t stay in Tampa Bay, than to head home to Toronto.
Something tells me this is going to end up the same way. If Stamkos doesn’t work out an extension with the Lightning, it seems hard to imagine any team trading for him as a rental and then losing him anyway come July 1. If not Tampa, it has to be Toronto.
The Sabres certainly have more to offer Stamkos. They’re far closer to winning than the Leafs are and already have core pieces in place. How would Stamkos look alongside Jack Eichel or Sam Reinhart, for instance? You want more money than the $10.5 million per year that Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews are making? No problem. Terry Pegula can easily come through with $11-12 million a year, even with the need to pay Rasmus Ristolainen now and Eichel and Reinhart in a couple of years.
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From the Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch:
Perhaps, it’s the calm before the storm.
The NHL trade deadline is set for Feb. 29 at 3 p.m. EST and while it will be tough to see a deal bigger than former Toronto Maple Leafs’ captain Dion Phaneuf being moved to the Senators in a blockbuster Tuesday, there’s still a sense among league executives it’ll be busy enough between now and the cutoff date.
The issue right now is the market is flooded with forwards and that needs to sort itself out because nobody is sure just who will move and who won’t. Naturally, the biggest question mark is Tampa Bay Lightning forward Steven Stamkos, but the betting money is he won’t be going anywhere.
After his name, people are eyeing the likes of Carolina’s Eric Staal, Winnipeg’s Andrew Ladd, Boston’s Loui Eriksson, Arizona’s Mikkel Boedker, Columbus’ Scott Hartnell, Kyle Okposo of the Islanders and Tampa holdout Jonathan Drouin.
“Right now, there’s a lot of forwards out there,” said a league executive.
Sooner or later, someone has to move to set the market.
From the New York Post's Larry Brooks:
So, no, I don’t believe that there is the slightest correlation between [Steven] Stamkos’ looming availability this summer and Toronto’s excise of Dion Phaneuf’s $7 million cap hit that runs through 2020-21 via last week’s stunning trade with Ottawa.
The deal does indeed create oodles of projected space for the Leafs down the line, albeit with a skeleton roster, following the 2017-18 season. And who might become available as a 27-year-old free agent on July 1, 2018?
Why, none other than John Tavares.
It is more than two years down the line, and the steps that might take the Mississauga native — for whom Greater Toronto has lusted since ever before this other No. 91’s junior career commenced in Oshawa a decade ago — from here to there cannot be plotted at this early date.
But the Islanders have work to do here with not only Tavares, working on the fourth year of a club-friendly six-year deal worth $5.5 million per season, but with their entire team in making the transition from Long Island to Brooklyn.
Maybe it will change upon this summer’s transfer of ownership, but the franchise thus far has attempted to straddle the two locales, in essence refusing to acknowledge the reality of where the team plays and to whom it belongs.
Chris Johnston of Sportsnet with his views on the Stamkos situation.
The more this goes along, the more it looks and sounds like Steven Stamkos is heading towards a breakup with the Tampa Bay Lighting.
It might even come by the end of the month.
No one is saying that, not exactly. But there’s something about the way the “no comments” are flowing with a little more than two weeks left before the Feb. 29 trade deadline that makes you wonder if the situation is coming to a head.
When veteran agent Don Meehan of Newport Sports appeared on Prime Time Sports earlier this week it was notable when he responded to a question about Stamkos and the deadline by saying: “Well, I think it’s a sensitive issue.”
Then Stamkos met reporters on Thursday and declined to rule out the possibility of waiving his no-movement clause to help the Lightning facilitate a deal.
“I haven’t even thought about that,” said Stamkos, according to Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times. “I think the answer is, ‘we’ll cross that bridge at the time, and I don’t think it’s that time now.’ So I continue to come to the rink everyday as the leader that I am and the teammate that everyone in this room knows that I am, and give my best effort.”
He added: “The trade deadline is coming up in a couple weeks, I’m sure everyone will have some answers in a couple weeks when that comes.”
Player agent Don Meehan joins Primetime Sports and talks about Steven Stamkos.
No hints from Meehan, doing what an agent has to do.
from Erik Erlendsson of the Tampa Tribune,
The future of Steven Stamkos hangs in the balance.
Stamkos’ present appears to be a bit cloudy, as well.
Through 53 games, one of the top goal scorers in the game is not producing at his usual level. With 21 goals, Stamkos is tied with teammate Nikita Kucherov for 13th in the league, behind the likes of Tyler Toffoli, Brad Marchand, Mike Hoffman and Matt Duchene while sitting 12 goals behind league leader Patrick Kane.
At a pace of 0.40 goals per game, Stamkos is on pace to finish with 33 goals, which would be his lowest full-season total since his rookie year. His goals per game would also be his lowest since 2008-09, when he finished with 23 goals, a rate of 0.29 per game.
While Stamkos can be a streaky scorer, prolonged slumps have not really been a problem since he came into the league. But this season, he has endured a 10-game drought — his longest stretch without a goal since his rookie season — and is in the middle of a stretch with one goal in his past 10 games.
Since a two-goal game at Colorado on Jan. 12, Stamkos has one goal and six assists while registering 20 shots on goal.
from Erik Erlendsson of the Tampa Tribune,
It remains to be seen where Stamkos will end up and whether the Lightning will trade their captain if they think a new contract will not be reached in time.
Stamkos has some say in the matter. With a full no-move clause in his contract, he cannot be traded or waived without granting his permission.
But if the Lightning did indeed consider trading Stamkos — rather than lose him as a free agent this summer and get nothing in return — what might Yzerman want? A right-handed defenseman? NHL players? Prospects? Draft picks?
And what teams might want in on the action? The criteria is limiting — with salary cap space being a big consideration.
There are four teams that have the resources to possibly acquire the two-time Rocket Richard Trophy winner in hopes of signing him to a long-term extension. And there are four teams with the resources to possibly acquire Stamkos — and the balance of his $7.5 million salary cap hit — as a “rental” player in a bid to win the Stanley Cup this season.
LOOKING TO BUY?
- St. Louis
The Blues have been a playoff disappointment in recent seasons, failing to advance beyond the first round despite being a strong team on paper. And St. Louis has shown they are not afraid to pull off a big move at the deadline, just as it did in acquiring goaltender Ryan Miller two years ago. But if the Blues were to acquire Stamkos, they likely would want assurances he would remain with the team because it will cost St. Louis roster players to bring him in to the fold.
Estimated available cap space: $3.4 million*
read on for more teams...
Tampa Bay Lightning captain Steven Stamkos joins Elliotte Friedman to talk about the turnaround this season and update the contract negotiations with the Lightning.
Below, the Sportsnet crew discusses the play of Stamkos and what's next in the contract talks...
from Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times,
if accurate, the $8.5 million annual average ($1 million more than his current salary) would put Stamkos eighth in the league, shy of the $10 million that Kings star Anze Kopitar signed for this month, and $2 million less than the supposed benchmark of the $10.5 million each for Blackhawks stars Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane.
Was it a lowball offer from the Lightning? Not so fast. The Tampa Bay Times dug deeper into the numbers, with the help of nationally renowned sports tax guru Robert Raiola, revealing potential x-factors: no state income taxes in Florida and the Lightning's ability to guarantee an eighth year on the contract. Raiola calculated that if Stamkos takes $8.5 million with the Lightning, it would net almost the same annually as $10 million in New York, presuming he'd be a New York City resident (see chart). He'd net roughly $500,000 less annually than $10 million deals in St. Louis or Detroit, due to city and state taxes, but take in more money over the length of his contract.
In Toronto, Stamkos' hometown, there's a proposed 53.53 percent federal/provincial tax if he's a Canadian resident. So even if the Maple Leafs offer $10 million annually, Stamkos would net $7 million less total over the length of the deal compared one at $8.5 million annually in Tampa Bay, partly thanks to an eighth year. Stamkos would even make just $1.4 million less total than Kopitar over his eight-year deal with the Kings, assuming Kopitar is a California resident.
NHL analyst Glenn Healy says if indeed the Lightning have offered Steve Stamkos somewhere in the 8-year, $68 million range, that has been alleged, it’s unacceptable and embarrassing.
from Martin Fennelly of the Tampa Tribune,
I’m not seeing a deal happening before the trade deadline. I’m also not seeing Stamkos agreeing to a trade that would make him some Western Conference rental player the rest of the season.
That leaves the other scenarios.
1) Stamkos gets traded after the season, before free agency.
2) Stamkos and the Lightning come to terms after the season, before free agency.
3) Stamkos traipses into free agency. The Lightning get nothing.
Looking stronger every week.
Meanwhile, in a big game against division-leading Florida on Sunday night, Stamkos had only 14 minutes, 55 seconds of ice time — eighth among Lightning forwards. J.T. Brown had 2 more minutes of even-strength playing time than Stamkos.
Not exactly star treatment.
Is this how major players get treated by franchises bent on keeping them?
Not on my score sheet.
from Eric Duhatschek of the Globe and Mail,
It’s also why the new Kopitar contract, expected to be announced Friday, may have little impact on the negotiations involving the other key centre approaching unrestricted free agency this summer – Tampa Bay’s Steven Stamkos, who is not close to signing an extension with the Lightning.
There are some who link the two negotiations on the grounds that players of their calibre are usually locked up years before they hit the market. But upon closer examination, it really isn’t an apples-to-apples comparison.
Stamkos, at 25, is three years younger than Kopitar, but his team hasn’t had nearly the same success as the Kings or the Blackhawks, captained by another great centre, the much-admired Jonathan Toews.
Toews and Kopitar are annually in the running for the Selke Trophy which, while nominally awarded to the NHL’s best defensive forward, has really morphed into a way of acknowledging the game’s best two-way player.
And while Toews’s leadership skills are considered unparalleled in today’s NHL, Kopitar is a touch better offensively. He has led the Kings in scoring for eight consecutive years, and Darryl Sutter – a very hard coach to please – has long called him the best centre he’s ever had.
Stamkos has a different skill set. He is a far more gifted goal-scorer than Toews and Kopitar. In the current NHL, only Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals and perhaps Joe Pavelski of the San Jose Sharks are in his company.
But as a rule, general managers tend to loosen the purse strings more for players who’ve led them to championships.
from Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times,
"Like I've always said, I envision myself winning a championship here and want to do that," Stamkos told the Tampa Bay Times Saturday. "Obviously we got close last year, and I'm the captain of this team and I want to be that leader."
There have been reports indicating Stamkos likely won't remain in Tampa Bay, including from well-respected TSN reporter Bob McKenzie Wednesday, who wrote that is his "feeling."
There's a sense among some in the hockey world that Stamkos has already decided he's as good as gone.
"Absolutely not," Stamkos said. "Not even close. That's why people say, 'I've got a feeling. I think, speculate, there's so much information out there that's probably false. Like the ones about my parents moving to Tampa (which Stamkos said is not true). That just comes with the territory."
from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,
It has been repeated many a time over the past few weeks that Steven Stamkos, as he contemplates his future, holds all the cards due to the no-movement clause in his expiring contract.
Should he remain unsigned closer to the Feb. 29 trade deadline, the Tampa Bay Lightning will be at his mercy as to whether he’d be amenable to provide a list of teams to which he'd be willing to go.
And that’s if Tampa Bay would ever be willing to move him.
But the point is: Stamkos is in full control.
Don’t blame the Lightning; the vast majority of big-name players in this league are armed with no-movement clauses once they become eligible in their unrestricted free agent years.
It’s a big-time must for star players, and it’s become an absolute plague tying the hands of so many front offices around the NHL.
My opinion, if a GM agrees to a no-movement/trade clause, he must live with it. Don't like them? Then don't agree to them.
Stamageddon breezed in and out of Toronto this week. We all managed to survive it.
So, now what?
In all likelihood, not much.
As in, literally not much at all.
If there is one take-away for me from a week or so ofStammerama in the self-proclaimed Centre of the Hockey Universe, it is as follows:
Steven Stamkos won't be playing for the Tampa Bay Lightning next season.
I can't say that unequivocally, with 100 per cent, dead-set certainty, because, you know, never say never, there's always a chance, blah blah blah...
-Bob McKenzie of TSN where you can continue reading more on Stamkos.
addded 5:21pm, via TSN,
What are the chances that this time next year Steven Stamkos is wearing a Maple Leafs jersey? TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun gives his take and also sheds light on an interesting quirk under the new CBA as of March 1st that could affect Stamkos re-signing in Tampa Bay.
LeBrun says if Stamkos is still on the Tampa roster the day after the trade deadline, he cannot sign a max, eight year contract with any other team besides Tampa.
If he acftually goes UFA and waits until July 1st, he won't be able to sign an eight year contract anywhere, even with Tampa.
LeBrun explains that more too...
FYI- The Lightning play in Toronto tonight, morning skate was canceled.
from Damien Cox of Sportsnet,
Stamkos would be a marquee name for a franchise that isn’t attracting as many eyeballs on TV as it once did. So you have to believe, with Rogers ($5.2 billion invested in national NHL rights) and Bell (broadcasters of 50 per cent of Leaf regional games) making the decision, that will matter for something.
He’s also only 25, which means by his 30th birthday, players like Nylander and Marner will be approaching their prime years. A seven-year contract, the max any team other than Tampa could offer, would be more than half over.
Unlike their pursuit of Mike Babcock in which the Leafs simply blew everyone else out of the water with an unprecedented $50 million offer, Toronto is restricted to some degree by the salary cap. Still, would they be inclined to make Stamkos the highest paid player in the game, the first $14 million annual cap hit?
And even if they were so inclined, is he worth that money? Is anyone?
from James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail,
... it increasingly looks as though the Stamkos UFA sweepstakes will happen this summer.
If he truly doesn’t want to play for Cooper anymore, all he needs to do is wait. That will be a bitter pill for the Lightning – losing a 26-year-old franchise player they drafted first overall in 2008 for nothing – but it won’t catch them by surprise.
If you put any stock in the talk around the league, that’s now the most likely outcome. The only wild card is if Stamkos will allow Yzerman to recoup some sort of asset at the trade deadline by agreeing to be a rental player.
That would have to happen relatively quickly, as the deadline is Feb. 29 – only 78 days away.
It’s either that or broker a reconciliation between player and coach, finally ending a rift that’s been dragging what should be one of the NHL’s better teams down all year.
Either way, Yzerman is running out of time.
From the Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch:
All that matters in the next 70 days on the NHL trade market is what takes places between Steven Stamkos and the Tampa Bay Lightning.
When the Lightning captain was drafted No. 1 overall by the Bolts in the 2008 NHL entry draft, the organization posted billboards across town with the slogan “Seen Stamkos” plastered on it. The issue this season is nobody has seen the 25-year-old Stamkos sign a contract extension, and the clock is ticking.
Set to become a UFA on July 1, Stamkos will control what kind of trade deadline day the networks in Canada are going to have on Feb. 29, because if he hasn’t signed a contract with the Bolts by then, GM Steve Yzerman will have to decide what his next move is going to be.
If Stamkos isn’t signed, the speculation will be on high.
To make matters more interesting, Stamkos has a ‘no move’ clause, so he controls his own destiny if he decides to sign there.
Continued with more trade rumors...
from Tom Jones of the Tampa Bay Times,
For the past several months, all Lightning fans have heard is that the potential impending free agency of Lightning star Steven Stamkos is not an issue.
The Lightning has said so. Stamkos has said so. No big deal, they say. Nothing to see here. Move along. All a media creation.
It is a story. A big story. And it will continue to be a big story until Stamkos is either re-signed, traded or leaves for free agency.
After all, only the future of the Lightning organization depends on it.