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from Allan Muir of Sports Illustrated,
First thing you need to do is increase the number of voters. Currently there are 18, 14 of whom must support a candidate to grant admission to the Hall. That tight gap makes it too easy for a small bloc to prevent someone from gaining admission for any perceived flaw or slight. More to the point, it gets a little too incestuous, too tightly knit. Open it up a bit, decentralize the voting power and get some new blood in there.
What’s the right number? I don’t know, maybe 25? 50? I’ll leave that up to you. You don’t want to be like baseball where everybody but the popcorn vendors chime in, but there are experienced voices out there that could contribute to the process. More of them need to be heard.
And when you get around to adding those voices, how about breaking up the old boys club a bit? Yes, the NHL is and always should be the primary focus of the Hall. But it’s the Hockey Hall of Fame, not the NHL Hall of Fame. You’ve allowed women in as honored members. Now how about a couple of women on the selection committee? A few more European voices wouldn’t hurt, either, judging by the absence of players like Vladimir Krutov, Sergei Makarov and Sven Tumba iu the Great Hall.
And while we’re on about members, maybe you could have a talk with the guys about the builders category. I’m sure there’s a reason why everyone who’s ever been a part-owner of the Calgary Flames is in while legendary coaches like Pat Burns, Fred Shero and Mike Keenan have been snubbed time and again, but it needs to be addressed. And seriously: Don Cherry. It’s time.
And then there’s the process. It’s a little too…Canadian.
The 2012 HHOF inductees were introduced before the Ottawa/Toronto game tonight.
Plus a little bit of bonus video featuring #9.
from Jennie Olsen of KSTP,
A Minnesota father and son who won Olympic gold medals 20 years apart want the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto to return their Olympic jerseys, but the organization claims it now owns the jerseys.
Bill Christian played on the 1960 gold-winning U.S. Olympic hockey team. His son, Dave Christian of Moorhead, was part of the 1980 “Miracle on Ice” U.S. team that won Olympic gold.
The origin of the dispute goes back 30 years, WCCO-TV reported Thursday night. In 1981, Bill Christian got a call from Hockey Hall of Fame officials who wanted to display both Christians’ jerseys, which were hanging in a closet at Bill Christian’s home in Warroad.
Bill Christian said he believed he was only loaning the jerseys, “never dreaming they would be gone forever.” But the Hall of Fame has since told the Christians the jerseys now belong to the Hall.
Curator Phil Pritchard told WCCO that the Hall contends the jerseys were donated in 1981, “in a legally effective manner and they are now the property of the Hockey Hall of Fame.”
First, let me say I am really happy that there’s a 3 year waiting period for election to the Hockey Hall of Fame, since that gives everyone a better chance to cool down and reflect on a career, rather than operating on emotion.
That said, there’s still a lot of discussion going on, and some alleged pundits must have had “No Way Osgood Gets Into the Hockey Hall Of Fame” columns stored away on their disks, hands hovering over the “send” command, just waiting….
Me? I’ve been running the numbers, and working through the history on Chris Osgood.
from Scott Burnside of ESPN,
Howe should have been inducted long ago.
Nieuwendyk should have been inducted last year.
Gilmour, likewise, has waited for too long.
Belfour is a no-brainer, ranking third all-time in wins.
And yet for all of the goodwill this class will generate, it still boggles the mind that the 18-person committee could not find a way to enshrine one builder. They also did not elect any woman this year after the Hall opened its doors to women for the first time in 2010.
It remains a great stain on the selection process that coach Pat Burns was once again denied even though his resume—one that includes a Stanley Cup win and three Jack Adams Awards as coach of the year with three different teams—is without peer.
The fact Burns died of cancer a few months after last year’s induction ceremony was shameful enough. That he was then shunned again this year reinforces the widely held opinion, both within the committee and beyond, that the process of selecting honored members needs a complete overhaul.
From Pierre LeBrun at ESPN:
It is time for some repair work at the Hockey Hall of Fame.
That is the theme for the Class of 2011 if all goes well here Tuesday, when the Hall’s 18-member selection committee meets to debate and ultimately select November’s new members.
“Repair” as in make things right for a few players who have been passed over in recent years, because this is the committee’s last chance for a while to get some of these players in before a new wave of slam-dunk candidates come (Joe Sakic, Rob Blake, Scott Niedermayer and Brendan Shanahan are a few of the players who will become eligible over the next two years).
The only first-year eligible player of note for 2011 is former All-Star goalie Ed Belfour, and we’d be surprised if he got the nod in his first chance. So let’s make this a catch-up year.
The selection committee can elect up to four male players. Here’s hoping they maximize this window by taking four players who should have been inducted before this year.
From Randy Boswell at Postmedia News via Calgary Herald:
The Hockey Hall of Fame is casting doubt on the authenticity of a vintage puck, touted as the one Wayne Gretzky used to surpass Gordie Howe’s all-time NHL scoring record in 1989, that sold at a Quebec auction in March for more than $50,000.
The Toronto-based hockey museum has told Postmedia News that it possesses the real puck that put Gretzky -then playing for the Los Angeles Kings in a game against his former team, the Edmonton Oilers -a notch above the legendary Howe with 1,851 points.
But Classic Auctions president Marc Juteau, the Montreal-area memorabilia seller who sold the other puck to an unnamed Canadian collector on March 29, has insisted that the provenance of that artifact is solid and thoroughly documented by a former timekeeper at Edmonton’s Northlands Coliseum.
TORONTO (March 31, 2011)—Bill Hay, Chairman of the Hockey Hall of Fame, announced today that the following new appointments were confirmed at the Annual General Meeting of the Members held yesterday in Toronto.
• Igor Larionov (Honoured Member, Class of 2008) appointed as a new member of the Selection Committee for a three-year term expiring March 31, 2014.
• Colin Campbell, Jim Gregory, John Davidson, Pat Quinn and Serge Savard each re-appointed to the Selection Committee for a further three-year term expiring March 31, 2014.
• Councillor Shelley Carroll (City of Toronto, Ward 33, Don Valley East), Donald M. Fehr (Executive Director, National Hockey League Players’ Association), and Bob Nicholson (President, Hockey Canada), each elected as new members of the Board of Directors.
The Selection Committee will meet in Toronto on June 27 & 28, 2011 to consider duly nominated candidates for the 2011 Induction Celebration scheduled on Monday, November 14th.
from Mike Zeisberger of the Toronto Sun,
Who might be the leading candidates to enter the Hall 53 weeks from now?
Truth be told, the group of first-time eligible players probably is one of the weaker ones we’ve seen in recent years. Along with Belfour, the list includes the likes of Trevor Linden, Glen Wesley, Derian Hatcher, Stu Barnes and Dallas Drake.
Of those, (Eddie) Belfour would seem like the only one to have a legitimate shot to be inducted right away, if at all.
Critics might point to some of Belfour’s indiscretions away from the rink as sufficient reasons to keep him out. We all remember, for example, the incident in 2000 when an intoxicated Belfour allegedly offered Dallas police $1 billion to release him without charges.
Or the 2006 affair on Long Island where Belfour was allegedly involved in a night club scuffle and Florida Panthers teammate Alex Auld ended up needing stitches above his right eyebrow.
Scott Burnside and Pierre LeBrun discuss next year’s possible HHOF class.
from Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal via Faceoff.com,
At the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City, Team Canada trainers were draining his aching right knee of fluid and shooting the leg full of painkiller so he could get his skates on, never mind race up and down the ice. He wanted to play, so he did, but it was agony, at times, after his knee was scoped three weeks before the tournament.
“I played two pre-tournament games in Montreal and Minnesota and had no swelling. I told Wayne (Gretzky, Olympic team boss)I was fine, then the first tournament game it got sore against Sweden. Then, against Germany, the knee became really painful and it just progressed,” said Yzerman.
“I don’t know if I willed myself to play, but I said, ‘Oh, boy, I’ve made this commitment. I can’t bail out now. I knew I had to work through it as best I could.”
read on plus Dave Gross of Camwest News Service takes a look at Stevie too…
from Legends of Hockey,
TORONTO (June 23, 2009)— Bill Hay, Chairman of the Hockey Hall of Fame’s Board of Directors, Jim Gregory and Pat Quinn, Co-Chairmen of the Hockey Hall of Fame’s Selection Committee, announced today that Brett Hull, Brian Leetch, Luc Robitaille and Steve Yzerman have been elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in the Player Category and Lou Lamoriello has been elected in the Builder Category. The vote took place today at the annual meeting of the Selection Committee in Toronto.
from Brian Costello of The Hockey News,
When the Hall of Fame’s selection committee gets together Tuesday to select its 2009 inductees, it will have three easy decisions and at least one difficult one.
The easy decisions are for three of the four openings in the players category. Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull and Brian Leetch are clearly shoo-ins and make this year’s class one of the most memorable in decades. All three are first-time eligible this year and the debate among the 18 selection committee members won’t be long or spirited.
The fourth opening is the one that will spark plenty of dialogue. The other first-time candidates (retired three years from hockey) are Luc Robitaille, Alexander Mogilny and Dave Andreychuk.
From Ryan Kennedy at The Hockey News:
For a number of veteran players, that elusive Lord Stanley is the one piece of the puzzle left in what could be a Hall of Fame career. Let’s look at the candidates.
Mats Sundin, Vancouver – As my colleague Brian Costello has posited in the past, Sundin is not quite a Hall of Famer just yet. But the way I see it, clinching a championship would put him in. The big Swede’s next goal will put him past former teammate Joe Nieuwendyk for 20th all-time in NHL history (Teemu Selanne passed both of them and Mike Bossy this year) and he also ranks 33rd overall in assists (passing Jean Ratelle, but getting passed by Mike Modano) and 25th all-time in points.
Stats aside, I really get the sense the Hall of Fame wants him in.
And while you’re at THN, you can check out Risto Pakarinen’s piece on Jonas Gustavsson, the netminder in the Swedish Elitserien finals, and on a record shutout streak which currently resides at 240 minutes and 25 seconds.
from Chris Johnston of the CP via the Globe and Mail,
There will probably be a crowded class when the Hall opens its doors again next November.
Steve Yzerman is a lock to enter in his first year of eligibility and it’s hard to imagine Brett Hull, Brian Leetch and Luc Robitaille not joining him. All four of those players were legitimate stars in their prime and each has won a Stanley Cup along with one of the league’s major personal awards….
Adam Oates and Doug Gilmour are the highest eligible players on the NHL’s all-time point list that have been passed over. Oates finished his career with 1,420 points — good for 15th overall — and Gilmour is a spot behind him with 1,414 points.
Pavel Bure, Eric Lindros, Steve Larmer, Mike Vernon and Dino Ciccarelli are among a long list of players who continue to warrant some consideration.
At 6:30 p.m. ET, the Hall of Fame Pre-Show will feature a red-carpet style entrance by the honored guests as well as other celebrities.
At 7:30 p.m., NHL Network will televise the 2008 Hockey Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony, featuring the newest members of the Hockey Hall of Fame—Igor Larionov, Glenn Anderson, Ed Chynoweth, and Ray Scapinello, as well as Foster Hewitt Memorial Award winner Mike “Doc” Emrick and Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award winner Neil Stevens.
NHL.com will have live streaming coverage of all the festivities.
From Phil Coffey at NHL.com
Truth be told, Hall of Fame Weekend is one of my favorite parts of a season that has a lot of favorite parts.
As an addicted history buff in all things, not just hockey, I’ll never turn away from the chance to read any hockey history that comes my way. That’s a strong thread here at NHL.com. This week alone, we dug into some pretty important historical stories that actually weren’t related to the Hall of Fame. Most fans know Red Berenson as the hockey coach at Michigan, but you may not realize he was a pretty fair NHL player in his own right. John Kreiser looked at one of the NHL’s unforgettable nights when Berenson scored 6 goals against the Flyers at the Spectrum. No easy road there.
read on for links to more HHOF stories at NHL.com
from Al Strachan at Fox Sports,
He stills remembers the Soviet system, which he calls “unacceptable,” and he’s outspoken in his praise of the people who allowed him to escape that system for the NHL.
The type of hockey that he and his teammates played was so effective that much of it was adopted by the NHL and for that, we all owe him our thanks. The game is a much more attractive spectacle today than it used to be and Larionov’s contributions in that regard would be hard to eclipse.
The Hockey Hall of Fame has no shortage of worthy inductees, but it’s hard to think of a guy who is more worthy — in a number of ways — than Igor Larionov.
A couple weeks ago we invited registered members of Kukla’s Korner to enter our Hockey Hall of Fame Contest to win 4 tickets to the Legends Classic game on November 9th, plus 4 more tickets to visit the HHOF itself.
The contest closed last week and so it’s high time we announced the winner, chosen by a random draw: MrGordy.
Our sincere thanks to the Hockey Hall of Fame for providing such a great prize. Anyone else wanting to attend that game or any of the other events being celebrated in Toronto in November, hit this link for more information.
The Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto has graciously agreed to give one lucky Kukla’s Korner member 4 tickets to the Legends Classic game taking place in Toronto on November 9th, plus 4 passes to visit the HHOF.*
The Source For Sports Hockey Hall of Fame Legends Classic, taking place at Air Canada Centre, highlights the Sunday afternoon schedule of Induction Weekend. Witness hockey history as the 2008 Inductees receive their official Honoured Member Blazers, then lace up their skates with other NHL stars as they take on a team of Montréal Canadiens’ Legends.
The game boasts an unrivalled roster of 15 Honoured Members – Anderson, Cournoyer, Michel Goulet, Dale Hawerchuk, Rod Langway, Larionov, Lanny McDonald, Brad Park, Robinson, Borje Salming, Steve Shutt, Darryl Sittler, Billy Smith, Peter Stastny and Bryan Trottier. In addition, fans will be treated to a Half-Time Show and Post-Game Encore by Canadian rock icon, Kim Mitchell, live in concert.
If you’re a KK member (registration is free & easy) just drop us a note in the comments of this post and we’ll do a random draw for the winner on October 24th.**
Obviously you’ll have to be able to get to Toronto to attend—but even if you yourself can’t use the tickets we’ll be happy to send them to a friend of yours in the area.
Below is a full press release on the upcoming events at the HHOF:
Damien Cox in The Spin at the Toronto Star,
There are a number of highly qualified, highly respected and thoughtful hockey people on the selection committee of the Hockey Hall of Fame. Who’d have thought they could screw up so badly?
Last week, they announced the next Hall of Fame class, and it’s a good one - Glenn Anderson, Igor Larionov, linesman Ray Scapinello and the late Ed Chynoweth.
Sadly, however, the 18-member selection committee again booted the ball so badly on honouring women in the game that it has seriously discredited itself and soiled the reputation of this hockey institution.
It’s so rare I fully agree with a Cox rant. But it happens, and this is one such occasion.
Mike Brophy at The Hockey News once tried to interview Tom Barrasso:
“Who is this?”
“Mike Brophy from The Hockey News.”
“How did you get my phone number?”
“You gave it to me.”
“No I didn’t.”
“Yes you did.”
“I did not and I am going to spend the rest of my life trying to find out how you got it. Goodbye.”
My thoughts afterwards? What an ass!
And yet I sit here today thinking he should be in the Hall of Fame.
The annual meeting of the Selection Committee was held this past Tuesday to select this year’s inductees to the HHOF, in the Player, Builder and Referee/Linesman categories. “Players eligible are those that retired prior to the 2004-2005 season.”
via Legends of Hockey:
Bill Hay, Chairman of the Hockey Hall of Fame’s Board of Directors and Jim Gregory, Chairman of the Hockey Hall of Fame’s Selection Committee, announced today that Glenn Anderson and Igor Larionov have been elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in the Player Category. In the Builder Category, Ed Chynoweth was posthumously elected. In the Referee/Linesman Category, Ray Scapinello was elected. The vote took place today at the annual meeting of the Selection Committee in Toronto.
Update 4:47pm ET: Eric Duhatschek at the Globe & Mail has more on today’s inductees.
From Pierre LeBrun at Sportsnet.ca,
It is not called the NHL Hall of Fame. I’m pretty sure it’s the Hockey Hall of Fame.
Which is why Tuesday, when the Hall’s selection committee gathers in Toronto to decide this year’s inductees, I hope Igor Larionov gets the nod.
“I think he should too,” six-time Norris Trophy winner Nicklas Lidstrom of the Detroit Red Wings told Sportsnet.ca. “He’s that kind of special player. Watching him when I grew up in Europe, he was part of that Russian Five that never gave up the puck. They had it the whole time. [...] When I had a chance to play with him, I saw that too. He’s such a smart player. He wasn’t a big player but his smarts brought him so much success. He really deserves to be in the Hall.”
The Hockey Hall of Fame selection committee meets next week. Joe Pelletier at Greatest Hockey Legends looks at the names being considered:
The Class of 2008 will be a unique induction. Because of the lost 2004-05 season due to NHL labour issues, there are no first-time eligible candidates as no player officially retired in 2005. Players that did not return after the return to duty, they were deemed to have retired in 2004, and therefor eligible for induction in 2007.
We all know 2007 was perhaps the greatest induction class ever, thanks the incredible pool of eligible players. 2008 is almost a make-up year for the Hall.
Here’s a look at who is likely to get inducted in 2008. I call it the Hockey Hall of Fame Power Rankings.
Doug Gilmour - For a short time in the early 1990s, Gilmour was the best player in the NHL. Besides, Toronto’s love affair with him would make for a grand stage for the Hall’s celebration.
Pierre LeBrun at Sportsnet.ca gets a 19-month jump plotting his Team Canada Olympic lineup for the 2010 games:
There’s still an NHL season and a half to play out, but as we sit here in May 2008, here’s who I would dress for the February 2010 Games.
Up front, these are my nine offensive guys at forward, in no particular order: Crosby, Eric Staal, Jarome Iginla, Vincent Lecavalier, Rick Nash, Ryan Getzlaf, Dany Heatley, Joe Thornton and Jonathan Toews. Don’t be surprised by the last name, he’s a stud and 19 months from now you won’t question Toews on the Olympic team.
And in other international hockey news…
Geraldine Heaney, Angela James and Cammie Granato made women’s hockey history on Thursday. The trio of pioneers became the first women players inducted into the International Ice Hockey Federation Hall of Fame, along with former superstar Mario Lemieux, Russian great Igor Larionov and the first French player ever to skate in the NHL, Philippe Bozon.
more here with video
Update 11:10am ET: A conversation with Larionov on the occasion of his induction into the IIHF Hall of Fame, discussing everything from the NHL to the state of Russian hockey.
from John Buccigross of ESPN,
But man, it is fun to speculate, debate and play the Hall of Fame game. That’s the value. It’s good fan petroleum. I had a great time scouring the record books last week, comparing Peter Bondra to Joe Mullen and why Bondra is an obvious Hall of Famer (check last week’s big e-mail bag).
I thought it might be fun to take a look at the rosters of all 30 NHL teams and make a quick-snap-mode “yes” or “no” Hall assessment.
Currently up for auction at NHL.com are four, one-of-a-kind, hand-signed, HHOF Tribute Masks.
One featuring each of Ron Francis, Al MacInnis, Scott Stevens and Mark Messier. Bidding opened this week at $750 each (although Messier’s has already shot up in value) and will continue until December 7th.
Money raised will be used to support the Shoot for a Cure program:
Shoot For A Cure Hockey is a campaign of the American and Canadian Spinal Research Organizations, which is directed at and led by the hockey community. The goals of the campaign are spinal cord injury awareness, prevention, research and cure. We seek to raise funds for spinal cord research, to promote prevention of hockey-related spinal cord injuries through the Play It Cool™ prevention program, and to raise awareness of spinal cord injuries in hockey.
Numerous stories on all of the HHOF inductees are on the web today.
I will point to a few and as always, feel free to link to a story in the comments that you feel would be of interest to KK readers
The Hockey Hall of Fame has the complete story on all of the inductees.
NHL.com has more, plus a look at the recent classes of the past…
The New York Times has a look at Mark Messier.
from Damien Cox of the Toronto Star,
Well, for starters it’s time for a woman. Past time, really, and hopefully they’ll get this ball rolling next year. Pick one of Shirley Cameron, Geraldine Heaney, Cammi Granato, Angela James, France St. Louis - whoever.
Well, Igor Larionov should be a slam dunk. In fact, he should have been inducted this year. Only Mark Messier, really, had greater credentials, and the way in which the Hall of Fame selection process is still shrouded in complete and impenetrable secrecy makes it difficult to understand how the great Russian wasn’t selected.
Next, in my mind, should be former Edmonton sniper Glenn Anderson, one of the best big-game scorers in NHL history.
from Larry Brooks of the NY Post,
Instead of televising the induction ceremony, Versus will be all over the critical and compelling match in Florida between the Hurricanes and the Panthers. Well, it’ll be there.
Instead of televising the ceremonies on a delayed basis following the Showdown in Sunrise, Versus will run something called, “WEC Wrekcage.”
Gary Bettman and the Board of Governors must be so proud.
It isn’t, however, only Versus that’s conspiring against both hockey and good sense here. By scheduling five games on a night that should remain dark, the NHL essentially guaranteed that the mundane playing of early-season matches would in large part overshadow a marquee event like the Hall of Fame inductions.
read on and I am surprised Larry didn’t mention the Hall of Fame induction ceremony will be televised on the NHL Network from 7:30-9:30pm tonight.
from Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun,
Why do so many mainstream hockey people assume Igor Larionov is a slam-dunk Hall of Fame player. He played the final 14 years of his career in the NHL, most of it as a second-, third- or fourth-line centre. Based on those years alone, he shouldn’t even be a candidate. And yes, he was brilliant in Russia before that. But he was no more brilliant than linemate Vladimir Krutov—and no one is arguing Krutov for the Hall. Nor should they.
more hockey talk…
Steve, it is the Hockey Hall of Fame, not the NHL hall of fame!
In our “Friday Faceoff,” ESPN.com NHL writer Scott Burnside (based in Atlanta) and Toronto Star columnist and frequent ESPN.com contributor Damien Cox (based in Toronto) duke it out over any given hockey topic. Let the games begin!
This week’s topic: It’s Hockey Hall of Fame time, always an interesting time given some of the controversies that have dogged the institution in the past. Not much debate over this year’s class, but what about 2008 and beyond?
Damien: Agreed. A truly excellent class, and superb individuals, too. Scott Stevens might end up being the last truly defensive defenseman to get in. If there’s any disagreement, it’s that I would argue Igor Larionov deserves induction, possibly ahead of all but Mark Messier.