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Eric Lindros paid an awful price as a player. In the beginning, because of the judgments of people who didn’t know him. In the end, because of the concussions. He tries to be philosophical about both.
The cynics—and there will be some—will think he’s rehabbing his image. The more fair-minded—and their numbers are growing—will think he’s wiser for his suffering. That he changed over the years.
And again, I say: “You’re wrong about Eric Lindros.”
-Gare Joyce of Sportsnet where you can read much more on Lindros.
from Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun,
This is Lindros’ year to beat the political raps against him, push the haters aside, be accepted by those who have privately said they will never accept him. All he has to do is garner 14 votes from the Hockey Hall of Fame committee. Fourteen of 18 votes he has never known, or never been able, to count on before.
This is the year for Lindros, with no impediments other than himself. The path is almost without resistance. There are no Nick Lidstroms or Chris Prongers in the Class of 2016. There are no Dominik Haseks or Mike Modanos. There are no obvious sure-thing choices to pencil in.
We honestly don’t know whether Lindros has been discussed or debated before by the Hall voters because what happens in the Hall of Fame voting room stays in the Hall of Fame voting room. They’ll tell you who gets in. Unlike football or baseball, they won’t tell you who came close. Or who was ignored. Or who was a finalist.
Or anything at all for that matter.
I can make a case for the induction of Lindros and make a similar case for ignoring him. That — and all the layers of controversy that have surrounded him and his career — is why this matter is both complicated and fascinating all at the same time. Almost everyone has a viewpoint on Lindros, one way or the other. And the viewpoint is usually passionate.
Ken Campbell of The Hockey News posted a feature on Eric Lindros on Sunday, so if you have yet to read ti...
It’s a bright fall day on a tree-lined street in one of Toronto’s most exclusive neighborhoods, but the rich and/or famous are nowhere to be seen. Things are pleasantly quiet on this Thursday morning in mid-November. It’s no more than a mile or so north of the bedlam that is downtown, but here, amid a mass of bright yellow leaves, there is nothing but calm and serenity.
On one of the houses, there’s a makeshift sign from a torn cardboard box posted on the front door that reads in black magic marker ink: “Dear Guest: Please refrain from knocking at this time. Thank you.”
The door opens and a mountain of a man stands in the doorway. His hands look as though they could still swallow you whole, then crumple you up and throw you away like a piece of scrap paper. He’s unshaven and graying at the temples, wearing blue sweat pants and a T-shirt with a Batman logo on the chest.
This is where the tranquility ends. Eric Lindros apologizes for the mess as he walks past the three baby car seats at the door and pushes a child’s toy out of the way with his foot.
From the Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal:
People keep calling Connor McDavid and Jack Eichel “generational” players.
It’s a glowing description for the pair of 18-year-old centres expected to be the first and second picks in Friday’s National Hockey League draft at Sunrise, Fla. But what does that mean? Is it the next rung up from a franchise player?
“A generational player to me is a complete player who needs limited coaching, understands the time and temperature of a game, and can beat you with his work and beat you with his skill,” said St. Louis Blues coach Ken Hitchcock. “You don’t have to paint them a picture to get them to understand it. They already have it in their DNA.”
Bobby Orr had it. So did Wayne Gretzky. Mario Lemieux, for sure. They come along every 10 to 20 years, if hockey fans are lucky.
Eric Lindros was thought to be a generational talent as a teenager because he was so big and made plays with soft hands. Concussion problems, though, limited his climb up the generational scale. Sidney Crosby was a wunderkind growing up, but will he ever be on par with Orr, Gretzky and Lemieux?
McDavid and Eichel, the Boston University freshman centre, have been the rage for years and had scouts raving “watch this kid; he can do it all.” They are both coming to the NHL with a skill set and more hoopla than all the rest. But they haven’t played an NHL game.
from Rick Westhead of TSN,
Eric Lindros has launched a $3 million defamation lawsuit against one-time NHL referee Paul Stewart and the Huffington Post, after Stewart wrote a column for the online news website that allegedly made the former Philadelphia Flyers star forward look like a "*#$%@&."
In documents filed in an Ontario court, Lindros says his reputation has been sullied after Stewart wrote about his poor on-ice relationship with Lindros, which was capped by an incident when Lindros allegedly tore up posters he was asked by Stewart to autograph for a charity.
Lindros's claims have not been proven in court and the Huffington Post has not filed a statement of defence. Lindros's lawyer Geoff Shaw said in an interview that Stewart has served him with a statement of defence, although it has not yet been been added to the public court record.
In an emailed statement, Huffington Post Canada managing editor Kenny Yum wrote, "This is before our lawyers and I can't comment." Stewart, reached in the U.S., declined to discuss the case. "I don't have anything to say," he said. "I don't have a comment."
from Sarah Baicker of CSNPhilly,
Eric Lindros and John LeClair are years removed from their playing days, but they are still teammates.
The two made that clear Thursday night as they were inducted into the Flyers' Hall of Fame. They didn’t say it, but they didn’t need to. Lindros and LeClair remain fiercely defensive and supportive of one another, nearly 20 years after they dominated in the game of hockey.
LeClair, for instance, still doesn’t understand all the criticism his linemate and friend faced during his tenure in Philadelphia. To LeClair, Lindros always went “above and beyond.” He was one of the greatest players to play the game, LeClair said, one of the greatest he ever played with.
“What hype did he not live up to?” LeClair asked. “I mean, he won a Hart Trophy. He scored 100 points. I never got that. He had the respect of his teammates and carried the Flyers for five years or however many years he was here. How many?”
continued including video highlight of the induction...
FYI, the NHL Network showed the complete ceremony last night along with the game. The ceremony started at 7:00pm ET and the game started around 8:00pm.
I do hope this sets a precedence for the network and as we know, they have not shown these types of ceremonies in full in the past.
The Toronto Star's Kevin McGran penned a fine summary of today's events surrounding the Hockey Hall of Fame's 2014 induction class...
When the 2014 Hockey Hall of Fame inductees are announced on Monday afternoon (TSN, 3 p.m.), it could be the first time in history that no Canadian player is on the list.
There are some obvious first-time candidates — stars who haven’t played pro in three seasons — who should be shoo-ins: American forward Mike Modano, Czech goalie Dominik Hasek and Swedish centre Peter Forsberg.
There are Canadians worthy of consideration for the first time — defenceman Adam Foote and winger Mark Recchi — and many who have been eligible before but didn’t make it: Eric Lindros, Paul Henderson, Rob Blake, Theoren Fleury, Paul Kariya and Dave Andreychuk.
At most, the hall can induct four retired male players and two females. Coaches, general managers and owners can also enter as builders. There is no limit, but it’s typically one a year.
And while McGran continues with a, "What shall we do if there are no Canadians are inducted? Is that bad for Canada" theory, the Glibe and Mail's James Mirtle suggests that the Hall's Selection Committee (whose machinations remain secret) should induct Forsberg's long-time competitor for the "most dominant forward of the late 90's" award in Eric Lindros:
from Larry Brooks of the New York Post,
Cam Neely is in with 395 goals and 694 points in a career shortened to 726 games by injuries. Peter Forsberg, who will walk into the Hall on two good feet upon his first year of eligibility in 2014, recorded 249 goals and 885 points in an injury-shortened career of 885 games.
So then why not Eric Lindros, the game’s most compelling player for most of the decade in which he was healthy enough to participate, who completed his career with 372 goals and 865 points in 760 games?
Keep Forsberg in Philadelphia with Ron Hextall and Garth Snow as his goaltenders, and get Lindros to Colorado with Patrick Roy and which, do you suppose, has the pair of Stanley Cup championships?
Who is inducted first into the Hall of Fame, Lindros or Mike Keenan?
from Chris Lund of The Score,
In a few days, the latest class of NHL Hall of Fame inductees will take their place in the Great Hall at the corner of Yonge and Front St. in Toronto. Pavel Bure, Adam Oates, Joe Sakic and Mats Sundin all deserve to take their place amongst legends after careers that spanned at least two decades apiece while amassing many accolades along the way.
The 1990s were a golden time for prolific talents. Many stars from the decade prior were still running out their string in impressive fashion while a new wave took the game over — imprinting a legacy and serving as a catalyst for the infinite number of changes we’ve had in the game since. Yet, for an era in perpetual flux, one player, in my mind at least, simultaneously imprinted his mark as the most feared player of the era and the most dismaying cautionary tale and I firmly believe he deserves a place in that Hall sooner rather than later.
For his dominance and the excitement it brought, Eric Lindros should be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Then all hell broke loose.
As seen on TSN…
Part 2 is below…
from Cathy Gulli of MACLEANS,
Before there was Sidney Crosby, there was Eric Lindros. Both were hockey prodigies as young teenagers. Both were drafted first overall into the NHL. Both won the league MVP in their early 20s, both were captain of Team Canada at the Olympics, and both were hailed as the next Wayne Gretzky or Mario Lemieux. And then, in a fraction of a second, both fell victim to devastating concussions. The toll on Crosby, who has been sidelined since January, remains to be seen. But most fans know that Lindros was never the same after a series of blows to the head—at least eight by the time he retired in 2007. What few know, however—what he’s never talked about publicly before—is the psychological and emotional toll of those concussions.
That a Herculean hockey legend such as Lindros (he is six foot four and 255 lb.) is speaking out with disarming candour about the panic and desolation that he has endured is unprecedented.
from Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail,
His words are measured and without self-pity. Yes, he will add his voice to those crying out for more respect among National Hockey League players, but attempts to get Eric Lindros to connect his own history of concussions to what Sidney Crosby is going through, or about to go through, get nowhere.
After a career ruined by six concussions and resulting political battles with a game and power structure that didn’t want to know what it was really dealing with, Lindros is all too aware that each concussion, let alone each person’s response to it, is unique, both in terms of rehabilitation and reintegration into the game. The star player is targeted; the third or fourth-liner worries about his job. Culture change? Good luck with that.
“What happens is you get tagged as being concussion prone, and there’s a huge decline in the respect you get because of it,” Lindros said in a telephone interview on Wednesday. “It’s people trying to make their name, you know? It’s little things that occur after the play, like when it switches out of the corner and the play goes up the ice and you’re spinning around heading back up to back check and – bam! You know … where they kind of catch you.”
First off, thanks for taking the time to speak with Kuklaskorner.
1. As a player, you suited up for HC Alleghe of the Italian A League from 1974-1976. How did your experience playing in Italy prepare you for coaching the National Team?
The playing experience allowed me to learn the following: Italian hockey mentality, get to know the people running the league (some of the same people are still involved), become familiar with the areas where hockey is played in Italy and re-learn Italian.
2. In 1989-90, you won the Memorial Cup, while coaching the Oshawa Generals. What was the road to the championship like?
It was a great “ride” looking back on it. When you are immersed in the playoffs there is very little time to enjoy the experience. The coaching staff is too busy preparing for the next game, the next series, keeping the players focused & prepared, dealing with injuries and distractions. We had a great group of players that were committed to winning. The leadership on the team was outstanding Ian Frazer was a great captain he had a support group that was exceptional Grieve, Busillo, O’Hagan, Armstrong, Banika, Skalde, Donaldson, Lindros that all had been are became captains. This group made the difference and allowed the team to win the Memorial Cup.
Government Senate leader Marjory LeBreton recently waded into the debate about professional hockey in Quebec City, namely the idea that the Government of Canada would be assisting in funding a new arena for a prospective NHL team. While much has been written about this in recent months, this is the first time I have seen Eric Lindros dragged into the debate. Responding to a question from Senator Jean-Claude Rivest on the possibility of Government funding, LeBreton noted:
“Hon. Marjory LeBreton (Leader of the Government): Honourable senators, as big a hockey fan as I am, the funding of professional sports teams is primarily something that the private sector is responsible for; it is not the responsibility of the government.
I very much regretted when the Nordiques left Quebec City and went to Denver. In particular, I did not like the actions of Eric Lindros when he decided he would not go and play in Quebec City.
from Mike Brophy of Sportsnet,
Eric Lindros is a Hall of Famer.
No question about it.
The question is, will he be made to pay the price for being a controversial figure during his too short, but nonetheless illustrious career? Will he be held out of the Hall when the latest additions are announced next week—the first time he is eligible to be inducted—only to be inducted down the road?
With 372 goals and 865 points in 760 career games, Lindros’s numbers speak for themselves. He added another 24 goals and 57 points in 53 playoff games. You don’t average better than a point per game in the regular season and in the playoffs if you aren’t a dominant player.
From Liz Mullen at Sports Business Journal:
Eric Lindros, in his letter resigning from his position as NHL Players’ Association ombudsman last week, revealed a rift within the union staff and a deep problem between himself and Executive Director Paul Kelly, and raised questions over whether staff members conspired to undermine him and the ombudsman’s office itself, both internally and publicly.
“The efforts of a few have made it impossible for me to effectively carry out the duties of ombudsman,” Lindros said in the three-page letter to the 30 player representatives who make up the NHLPA executive board, the governing body of the union. SportsBusiness Journal obtained a copy of the letter.
read on for a summary of the letter, outlining Lindros’s concerns with the ombudsman position at the NHLPA
The NHLPA ombudsman Eric Lindros has resigned from his post, Sportsnet has learned.
Lindros was hired by the Players’ Association back in November of 2007. The newly created position was added under the ratified NHLPA constitution and allowed Lindros to resolve any complaints by members and/or staff of the NHLPA while reporting directly to the executive board.
from Liz Mullen of SportsBusiness Journal,
NHL Players’ Association Executive Director Paul Kelly acted to quell dissent within the union last week by publicly condemning recent press reports that criticized union ombudsman Eric Lindros and indicated Lindros would soon be fired.
But hockey sources question whether Kelly’s comments, which also expressed support for Lindros, will mend what has become a deepening rift within the union, at the same time NHL players are trying to decide whether to terminate the current collective-bargaining agreement.
As reported by SportsBusiness Journal in November, Kelly and Lindros, who were staunch and vocal supporters of each other when they were both hired in 2007, are increasingly at odds with each other, according to numerous sources.
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Also from Liz Mullen of SBJ,
The NHL Players’ Association board of player representatives will vote later this month on whether to end the collective-bargaining agreement this year or extend it another two years, and it is widely expected they’ll choose not to opt out.
Sources said an announcement of the players’ decision may be made the week of the NHL All-Star Game, set for Jan. 25 in Montreal. NHLPA spokesman Jonathan Weatherdon said in an e-mail that players would vote on the issue in mid- to late January.
from Liz Mullen of SportsBusiness Journal,
The NHL Players’ Association overhauled its constitution a year ago to prevent the union from repeating the errors of its past, but the union’s new structure is now causing friction between Executive Director Paul Kelly and ombudsman Eric Lindros.
Kelly and Lindros, once staunch supporters of each other, are increasingly at odds over their roles at the union, according to numerous hockey and sports industry sources.
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Retired hockey player Eric Lindros is among the world’s top 10 most generous celebrities.
Lindros made No. 9 on the list, which is compiled annually by The Giving Back Fund, after contributing $5 million to the London Health Sciences Centre, a London, Ont.-based hospital where he was treated.
from In the Room at the Washington Times,
Kelly and Lindros talked about all sorts of issues with the game, and since the story was more of a feature on the two of them trying to help the NHLPA regroup, there was not room for their views on a lot of important topics. So here is some what we talked about. It is a lot to digest, but there is some pretty good stuff in here.
ON THE CURRENT STATE OF THE GAME
KELLY: We like the game played at a high rate of speed. We like to see good, close games whether they are 2-1, 3-2 or 8-7. I don’t know that the volume of goals is really the issue. We want to see good, clean, competitive, fast play.
from the Philadelphia Daily News,
Gagne is at fault for rushing back to the ice. The Flyers are for allowing him to do so, especially since there is growing sentiment within the medical community over whether the NAN guidelines are too lax. Two international conferences in this decade, organized by the International Hockey Federation and the International Olympic Committee, concluded that any multitiered grading system is flawed because it seeks to assess severity before all symptoms surface.
“First of all, it doesn’t matter how many,” Lindros said. “It’s the severity.”
from the NHLPA,
The National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) Executive Board today announced the appointment of Eric Lindros to the newly created Ombudsman position and the promotion of Associate Counsel Ian Penny to the role of General Counsel.
As Ombudsman, a new position created under the recently ratified NHLPA Constitution, Lindros will serve as a non-voting member of the Executive Board and will supervise and coordinate the activities of the Divisional Player Representative program.Lindros will also receive and resolve any complaints by members and/or staff of the Association.He will report directly to the Executive Board.
from the NHLPA,
When those closest to Yanick Dupre speak of his life, it’s the person, not the player that dominates the conversations.
It’s been over 10 years since Dupre, the 50th overall selection of the Philadelphia Flyers, succumbed to leukemia….
“He was a lot of fun to be around,” said Eric Lindros, who played alongside Dupre in Philadelphia. “He was always entertaining. He was also the type of person who stood up for what he believed in.
“I remember how fired up he’d get when we’d play in Montreal. He always loved to play there!”
[This post is temporarily ‘sticky’ to top of KK - updates in the comments]
From the CP via The Hockey News,
The 33-year-old Lindros, a free agent who has not played this season, is expected to announce his retirement in his hometown of London, Ont., on Thursday.
The Big E made it through 13 seasons despite eight concussions - injuries that eroded his impact later in his career. But he remains one of the most compelling impact players to skate in the NHL, and he wore Canada’s colours with distinction in earning gold and silver Olympic medals.
Bobby Clarke argues that Lindros should make it to the HHOF, but there’s likely to be a lot of debate. (updates: more articles on Lindros and his career will be added to the comments of this post)
Update 12:50pm ET: ESPN video discussing Lindros’ legacy is below.
Poll Question: Should Eric Lindros Make it into the Hall of Fame?
from Tim Wharnsby of the Globe and Mail,
This is not an out-of-the-blue development, but all indications are Eric Lindros will finally get around to announcing his retirement in his hometown of London, Ont., when he will be part of a news conference with University of Western Ontario sports injury guru, Dr. Peter Fowler, on Thursday afternoon.
from Pierre LeBrun of the CP via the Globe and Mail,
Lindros said Wednesday he would welcome a chance to work for the union in whatever role. “I would look forward to something along those lines. This has been really interesting. I’ve learned a lot about the other side of things.”
more on the work Lindros has done with the NHLPA…
Update 11:15pm ET (by Alanah):
From Darren Dreger at TSN,
He hasn’t made it official yet, but Eric Lindros is calling it quits and – if all things work out for him, he’s headed toward a new career with the NHLPA.
Following Paul Kelly’s introduction as Executive Director of the Player’s Association, Eric Lindros stated bluntly his playing career is behind him - with too many health issues to entertain the notion of a return.
frm Terry Frei at ESPN,
A year later, with Lindros not on a preseason roster and spending much of his time on NHL Players’ Association business, it’s difficult to imagine a scenario under which any NHL team would give him another chance this season in the wake of his largely unsuccessful stints with Toronto (2005-06) and Dallas (last season).
Lindros isn’t worth the risk, the faith, or the money—especially since he isn’t old enough for an incentive- and condition-laden deal.
Even that seems jarring. After all he’s been through, as long as he’s been around, as he goes through a limbo both similar and dissimilar to (appropriately enough) Peter Forsberg’s, Lindros still is only 34.