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You Call This Negotiating In Good Faith?

from Michael Traikos of the National Post,

When the meeting between the two sides ended, the players came down and spat insults, if not blood.

Pittsburgh’s Sidney Crosby said it was clear the NHL does not want to negotiate in fairness. Chicago’s Jonathan Toews implied commissioner Gary Bettman could not be trusted. And Phoenix’s Shane Doan added it feels like the owners do not just want to rob the players with a new collective bargaining agreement, they also want to leave them with black eyes.

Add it up and this has the makings of a real rivalry. Responding to the NHL’s proposal on Tuesday that sought to split revenues down the middle and preserve the 82-game season, the NHLPA presented three counter-proposals on Thursday.

Each one was rejected almost immediately. And so the 18 players that attended the meetings left with the impression that the owners are no longer operating in good faith.

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phillyd's avatar

Again, I said it on the one article yesterday. I just don’t see how they can get to 50/50 without doing a roll-back on salaries. Not that I agree with the rollback, I just don’t see how it can be avoided.

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 10/19/12 at 10:21 AM ET

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Grandfather in existing contracts and then move to 50/50 split as contracts expire. Even consider limiting the length of existing contracts so that they expire sooner rather than 12 years from now. That allows the back end to be re-negotiated and establish real cap hits not phantom hits that cost other players money.  There is no easy way to get to 50/50 immediately, but that is the NHL’s position. I think many would agree that 50/50 is “fair” (if HRR is properly defined) and that it would be reasonable to move to 50/50 over the next CBA if not in one dramatic step.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 10/19/12 at 11:34 AM ET

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Each one was rejected almost immediately. And so the 18 players that attended the meetings left with the impression that the owners are no longer operating in good faith.

The owners didn’t even start pretending to negotiate in good faith until Tuesday. Gorging on new contracts leading up to Sept. 15 and then demanding rollbacks is the opposite of acting in good faith. So is summarily rejecting proposals without thoroughly reviewing them.

Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 10/19/12 at 11:41 AM ET

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Again, I said it on the one article yesterday. I just don’t see how they can get to 50/50 without doing a roll-back on salaries. Not that I agree with the rollback, I just don’t see how it can be avoided.

at 5% growth it doesnt take long to get to 50/50 if the owners keep all the growth.  At the 7-8% revenue has been growing, its even less time.

If the NHL didnt insist on taking it all at once, we’d be watching hockey right now.

Posted by jwad on 10/19/12 at 12:56 PM ET

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If the NHL didnt insist on taking it all at once, we’d be watching hockey right now.

Absolutely right.

Posted by Garth on 10/19/12 at 03:15 PM ET

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