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Will Weber See An Offer Sheet?

from Craig Custance of ESPN Insider,

As of Monday, Weber hadn’t had any serious conversations on a possible offer sheet nor has the Weber camp aggressively sought any out. He likes Nashville and hasn’t been planning an exit strategy.

But that doesn’t mean there isn’t internal concern in the Nashville organization that an offer sheet is a possibility.

“It’s the nature of our business,” said one Nashville source. “These are the rules designed into our current system.”

There’s an assumption that the Predators would match any offer sheet given to their captain, but one source suggested that a one-year deal worth something close to the maximum like $13-14 million might handcuff Nashville.

“If they match, they can’t trade him,” he pointed out.

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$13-14M?! damn, that would be such a dick move.

Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 07/04/12 at 05:58 PM ET

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Signing him to anything over 8.4M would cost 4 first rounders.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 07/04/12 at 06:48 PM ET

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Yeah, but the point is they won’t be able to justify letting him go after letting Suter go, and it would screw them over that much more…

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 07:04 PM ET

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Worst case scenario for the offering team is that they get Weber for one season, he leaves, and then they’re out four first-rounders for one season of Shea Weber.

But if you’re reasonably certain that you can get Weber to sign an extension with your team, or you’re reasonably certain that Nashville will match, it’s actually pretty genius. Weber is worth four first-rounders for a top-level team, and even if Nashville matches you’ve basically guaranteed that Weber becomes a UFA next season, with your team getting a second crack at him.

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 07/04/12 at 07:12 PM ET

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If you’re a good team, it’s essentially 4 early second picks. It’s possibly worth it if you trust your scouting staff enough to find the gems of the draft beyond the first.

However, I don’t think anyone will give him one because it sours the league to that GM, so it’s almost never worth it.

Posted by Zach Alexander on 07/04/12 at 07:38 PM ET

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Worst case scenario for the offering team is that they get Weber for one season, he leaves, and then they’re out four first-rounders for one season of Shea Weber.

The team sending the offer sheet dictates the terms.  So no one would send an offer sheet for 1 year if the annual is over 8 mill.  It would be a long term deal either way to make it worth the draft picks.

In saying that, if Weber is willing to sign an offer sheet, it would be more prudent to wait until he is available as a UFA so as to not lose the 4 first rounders.

Posted by Crow on 07/04/12 at 08:15 PM ET

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I’m not a huge fan of offer sheets, but for a guy like Shea Weber, 4 1st rounders is worth it, he’s no Dustin Penner.  The only problem is that Nashville probably knows that too and would most likely match.  It would take a lot of strategy to figure out a way to get Weber to the Wings.

Posted by henrymalredo from lansing on 07/04/12 at 08:29 PM ET

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Smith and Weber would be a pretty outstanding combo.  I think he’s worth 4 Detroit second rounders if Q is worth 1. 

One year just too much of a gamble for it though.  And sets a bad precedent although I don’t see anyone holding a grudge against Murray in SJ.  I’d like go get a better 2nd pairing guy and let them all battle it out for top pairing.  Would like to get a legit sniper too but hopefully with more scoring depth (i.e. Sammy/Brunner) it will also alleviate some of the immediate need for a goal scorer up top.  Cleary and Bert on a 3rd line will produce.  Another line with Nyquil?  I think we’ll survive if we don’t get a sniper, but that being said, I’d still like to get Ryan or Nash.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 08:51 PM ET

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The NHL offer sheet is the “crossing of the picket line” to organized labor… The guy spilling the beans about a Vegas trip… The guy who leaves half full cans of beer throughout your house at a party.

Let’s hope the wings don’t become that guy.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 07/04/12 at 09:48 PM ET

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One year just too much of a gamble for it though.

I’m not advocating the Wings doing it, but you’re missing the beauty of it.

You either force Nashville to way overpay for Weber, only to make him a UFA the next season (they have to either sign him or let him walk because they wouldn’t be allowed to trade him) or you get Weber now with a year to be able to convince him to sign something longterm in which you’ll continue to pay him $14M a year for the first couple years.

For example, if you’re Edmonton, why not?  You’ve got 20 guys under contract and you’re $20M under contract.  Slide Weber a $14M 1-year offer sheet.  If he signs it you’ve got a) a world class defenseman, and b) a veteran who you can pair with Justin Schultz.  And think about a PP with Hall, the Nuge/Eberle/Gagner/Yakupov/Jones/Hemsky and Smyth up front and Weber and Schultz on the blue line and you lose draft picks, but you might actually make the playoffs, or at least have mid-round draft picks instead of your fourth straight #1.  And if Nashville matches then who cares?  You take another run at him if he’s available next year.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 11:51 PM ET

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You either force Nashville to way overpay for Weber, only to make him a UFA the next season (they have to either sign him or let him walk because they wouldn’t be allowed to trade him) or you get Weber now with a year to be able to convince him to sign something longterm in which you’ll continue to pay him $14M a year for the first couple years.

For example, if you’re Edmonton, why not?  You’ve got 20 guys under contract and you’re $20M under contract.  Slide Weber a $14M 1-year offer sheet.  If he signs it you’ve got a) a world class defenseman, and b) a veteran who you can pair with Justin Schultz.  And think about a PP with Hall, the Nuge/Eberle/Gagner/Yakupov/Jones/Hemsky and Smyth up front and Weber and Schultz on the blue line and you lose draft picks, but you might actually make the playoffs, or at least have mid-round draft picks instead of your fourth straight #1.  And if Nashville matches then who cares?  You take another run at him if he’s available next year.

Tell me garth, why only drink half the beer before grabbing a new one?

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 07/05/12 at 12:58 AM ET

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