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Will Tuesday’s CBA talks get down to the ‘nitty gritty?’

The Canadian Press's Chris Johnston sets up a four-day slate of scheduled CBA negotiations in New York City by suggesting that particularly small-group discussions between NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, deputy commissioner Bill Daly, NHLPA executive Donald Fehr and his deputy, Steve Fehr, may or may not restart the negotiating process and/or produce some sort of consensus:


While the parties have met face-to-face every week since the end of June, they've made very little headway on the framework that will shape the next agreement. That prompted the first small session with just Bettman, Daly and the Fehrs in Toronto last week, and led to the scheduling of another one with the talks shifting back to New York.

The sides are in need of anything that might encourage progress with a Sept. 15 deadline looming for a lockout.

"When you get into discussions like this sometimes things can become more or less cumbersome depending on the nature of the group and what you're talking about," said Donald Fehr. "And, you find a way to satisfy everybody's comfort level and go on. If you try it one way and that doesn't really work you go try it another way. If that doesn't work you try it a third way."


The sides have looked like competing hockey teams at the conclusion of previous negotiating sessions, with the number of well-dressed attendees often unable to fit together in one elevator The gathering will be decidedly smaller on Tuesday as the leaders of the NHL and NHLPA try to push talks in a positive direction.

"Hopefully we'll be productive when we get to it," said Fehr. "We have a lot to do. I have always believed that there is enough time. If there is a mutual will to do that, I still believe there is enough time to do that before the expiration of the contract.

Continued, as you might expect, with a cheat sheet in terms of where we stand thus far.

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I think bettman and owners caught themselves in rock and hard place when bettman made the “fans are like a doormat” comment. that comment hurt them so badly.  i think they back off original offer.

Posted by FlyersFan on 08/27/12 at 06:46 PM ET

Chet's avatar

it’s a huge waste of time and money for them all to be going back and forth from TO to NYC. just pick a spot (i’d make it somewhere like cleveland so they want to settle) in the middle and hunker down ‘til you have a deal…

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 08/27/12 at 07:17 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

The New York-Toronto shuffle is truly silly. The NHL’s officially based out of New York, and the PA Toronto, but the NHL has an office in the Air Canada Centre (where the PA is based), too, and Donald Fehr commutes from New York. It’s part of a territorial dance that just isn’t particularly necessary.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 08/27/12 at 11:57 PM ET


As opposed to all the other parts of this that are particularly necessary?

Posted by HockeyinHD on 08/28/12 at 09:52 AM ET

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