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What Are Sources Saying In Pittsburgh?

from Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review,

Ownership favored firing Bylsma as of Wednesday, the sources said.

Ownership believed Bylsma lost the dressing room this season, specifically the support of franchise centers Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, the sources said.

Players were unhappy with Bylsma's numerous meetings and long practices and the decreasing sense of fun within the Penguins' daily environment, the sources said.

Crosby and Malkin also grew disenchanted with perceived harsh criticism they received from Bylsma during meetings, the sources said.

Also, the sources said, ownership was concerned about the Crosby's body language during the playoffs.

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So we have half of the articles saying Bylsma will get fired because the lack of accountability and here we have one saying he will be fired because he demanded it. Most of the other teams in the league would be happy to be in the state of the Penguins

Posted by pharena on 05/14/14 at 02:59 PM ET

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sounds like a bunch of whiners in the dressing room who were too lazy to work hard then got pissed when they got called on it.

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 05/14/14 at 03:23 PM ET

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Source(s) can be anyone, someone in mgmt., player agent, pr guy, scout and in some cases, not saying it here, but made up.

But it sounds as if someone has an objective to get a few people fired, but the players should also be under heavy scrutiny.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 05/14/14 at 03:27 PM ET

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Yeah heavy scrutiny, only one cup in 5 years, better fire them all. Btw Edmonton sends their love.

Posted by pharena on 05/14/14 at 03:28 PM ET

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Why is it that Crosby can’t seem to settle in in terms of line mates? A logical person would say that he’s the problem. Good stats, yeah, but a leader? Not really, no.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 05/14/14 at 04:13 PM ET

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Why is it that Crosby can’t seem to settle in in terms of line mates? A logical person would say that he’s the problem.

He did, Pascal Dupuis. Unfortunately, Dupuis was hurt.

Posted by Chris M on 05/14/14 at 04:23 PM ET

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“Players were unhappy with Bylsma’s numerous meetings and long practices and the decreasing sense of fun within the Penguins’ daily environment, the sources said.”

“sense of fun”?

Seriously?

I’m not a Pens fan and I’m not sure even I can buy that line from players making millions a year.  They’re not paid to “have fun”.  They’re paid to win games and a Cup.

And if it is true, the internal rot is coming from those wearing the “C” and “A” ‘s because my goodness… any good leader would and should SQUASH that sentiment immediately like a bug.

Posted by Primis on 05/14/14 at 04:25 PM ET

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He did, Pascal Dupuis. Unfortunately, Dupuis was hurt.

One guy out of how many? He’s a primadonna.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 05/14/14 at 04:32 PM ET

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Why is it that Crosby can’t seem to settle in in terms of line mates? A logical person would say that he’s the problem. Good stats, yeah, but a leader? Not really, no.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 05/14/14 at 04:13 PM ET

That’s where I’m at, and what I ranted about on Twitter all morning long.  The “best player in the world” can’t play well with all of these guys they’ve tried?  I’m sick of hearing about it, for years now even.

We laugh at the idea, but maybe Crosby really needs a Mike Keenan to actually tear him down a bit.  It really is ridiculous that no wings “work well with him”.  The common thread there of course is Sid.  Maybe HE needs to change his game a bit instead of demanding everyone change to fit him?  But since he’s Golden Canadian Boy he continues to get a free pass.

And let’s ask this:  Can you imagine if this was Ovechkin we were talking about instead of Crosby, and how little sympathy Ovechkin would get?  Nobody’d be rushing to his defense with preposterous things like “Crosby’s Corsi was good though, so he’s really trying!”.

I know one thing:  I don’t care what he had in the regular season, 1 lone Crosby playoff goal is a real problem, when a Devante Smith-Pelley has 5 now….

Posted by Primis on 05/14/14 at 04:36 PM ET

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And let’s ask this:  Can you imagine if this was Ovechkin we were talking about instead of Crosby, and how little sympathy Ovechkin would get?  Nobody’d be rushing to his defense with preposterous things like “Crosby’s Corsi was good though, so he’s really trying!”.

I was thinking the same thing. He gets a pass on and off the ice.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 05/14/14 at 04:44 PM ET

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Rossi is a RETARD who didn’t even know what the F3 did or where he was in Pens system, His “sourcesw” are David Morehouse the President of the Pens who is a Political Hack Ron Burkle put into that job to be his eyes & ears & he is completely over his head in & Tom MacMilian who used to be Pens beat writer who became PR Guy when Mario got the team

Can you imagine how PISSED OFF you would be to practice the same shit day after day after day stuff that didn’t work ????

You know it is a seismic event coming when people inside the pens are shooting at everyone else in OrganIzation

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 04:46 PM ET

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I’m just really curious how they plan to turn $15.9MM into a dozen or so players and manage to not be mediocre. Crosby and Malkin better plan on scoring 130 points each and also playing goalie.

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 04:47 PM ET

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Can you imagine how PISSED OFF you would be to practice the same shit day after day after day stuff that didn’t work ????

Yes, 2nd in the East, 6th in the league and it didn’t work. Why wouldn’t they practice the same thing that was working all season?

Their problem this season was that they were built for the regular season, not the playoffs. Fleury sucks. Crosby is apparently easily neutralized by just jabbing him a few times and not giving him any ice, and they have no depth.

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 04:50 PM ET

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I’m glad to see I am not the only one who thinks the players in Pittsburgh need a season or two under Mike Keenan to gain a proper perspective. 

Let us look at the two leading stars of the flightless birds.  First, Crosby seems, more and more, to be all about Crosby.  He whines, cries, bellyaches and bitches to the officials.  He cheap shots the opponents and he does not support his teammates.  This is a sign of a very immature person.

Malkin is far from a complete player, but his offensive skills offset his defensive weaknesses to the extent that he will be a valuable asset for some time, given a dose of corrective medicine. 

Bylsma will not be unemployed log.  I would hope that Ron Francis decides to look at him for a major upgrade at coach.

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 05/14/14 at 05:07 PM ET

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The problem is that they have a bunch of lazy players that think they are too good to put in hard work.  They know they hold the power because of their latent talent, but they can’t take it when people call them out in order to get them to utilize everything they have.  Sidney crosby is just like justin bieber, he acts like that on the ice and probably behind closed doors as well.  He just hasn’t shown his true colours out in public like bieber yet.

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 05/14/14 at 05:27 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 05/14/14 at 04:36 PM ET

Correct. Just look at the last 2 Olympics. Toews and others played better than he did. And in both Olympics, Babs tried endlessly to change the first line to see “who can play with Crosby”...I thought that such a talent should make everyone around better (ex. Toews, Pav, etc.) He needs to look himself in the mirror.

 

Posted by gowings from MTL on 05/14/14 at 05:30 PM ET

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Going to post this slowly & in big letters for you “ROB ROSSI IS A RETARD !!!!!!!!!! HE IS GETTING INFO LEAKED FROM DAVID MOREHOUSE WHO VETOED A TRADE OF KRIS LETANG TO TB FOR 3RD PICK IN DRAFT & MORE PLAYERS & MOREHOUSE VETOED IT BECAUSE OF LETANG’S MARKETABILITY & FROM TOM MacMILLIAN WHO IS THE PR GURU OF PENS

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 05:42 PM ET

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Scotty Bowman’s words: “Crosby has been there (Pittsburgh) what, 8 years? Aside from Malkin (who is really a center), has he ever had a star to play with? Kunitz is a nice player, and I’m not trying to denigrate him….it looks like to me, their supporting cast is not good enough.”

Scotty Bowman is a God to RW fans so here ya go

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 05:46 PM ET

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Man, the way Pittsburgh reacts to losing a game 7 you’d think they were told by Bettman they would win or something.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 05/14/14 at 05:58 PM ET

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Has he ever had a star to play with? He IS the star.

“Well yeah, he’s the greatest player in the world, but how can he be expected to perform without a star-caliber player next to him, making him better?” WTF

Thing is, Crosby put up great numbers all season. So what happened in the playoffs? Seems some teams can shut him down in a 7-game series and it appears to be largely mental. Get him started on a hissy fit and let him run himself ragged. It’s the method I use to get my two toddlers tired enough to take a nap.

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 05:59 PM ET

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.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) Obviously you aren’t to bright or into anything other than the Rags, Bylsma coached team have been 2 of the 27 teams that have lost series after being up 3-1 & also lost another one being up 3-2 & all 3 games 7’s at home

Here are the number of goals scored by DB led teams in elimination games:
‘10 v MTL - 2
‘11 v TB - 0
‘12 v PHI - 1
‘13 v BOS - 0
‘14 v CAN - 0
‘14 v FIN - 0
‘14 v NYR - 1

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 06:09 PM ET

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Here are the number of goals scored by DB led teams in elimination games:
‘10 v MTL - 2
‘11 v TB - 0
‘12 v PHI - 1
‘13 v BOS - 0
‘14 v CAN - 0
‘14 v FIN - 0
‘14 v NYR - 1

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 06:09 PM ET

Whoa, that’s bleak.

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 06:22 PM ET

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Here are the number of goals scored by Crosby led teams in NHL elimination games:
‘10 v MTL - 2 (Crosby -2)
‘11 v TB - 0 (Crosby DNP)
‘12 v PHI - 1 (Crosby -3)
‘13 v BOS - 0 (Crosby 0)
‘14 v NYR - 1 (Crosby -1)

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 06:31 PM ET

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Here are the number of goals scored by Crosby led teams in NHL elimination games:
‘10 v MTL - 2 (Crosby -2)
‘11 v TB - 0 (Crosby DNP)
‘12 v PHI - 1 (Crosby -3)
‘13 v BOS - 0 (Crosby 0)
‘14 v NYR - 1 (Crosby -1)

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 06:31 PM ET

Here are the number of playoff goals scored by Crosby:

2013-14:  GP 13 Goals 1.

The fact of the matter is this:  The “best player in the world” doesn’t score only 1 goal in 13 playoff games.  No excuses.

Posted by Primis on 05/14/14 at 07:25 PM ET

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No excuses.

Posted by Primis on 05/14/14 at 07:25 PM ET

Allow me to disagree.

1. His linemates aren’t Patricks Kane & Sharp.
2. The Refs started coddling him 85% of the time instead of the 100% he got used to.
3. He’s distracted thinking about how to avoid the end-of-series handshake line.
4. His playoff beard isn’t thick enough to cover his thin skin.

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 07:33 PM ET

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Yep & Failsma Beat the Supposed great RW’s how shitty do you feel

 

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 07:48 PM ET

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Paul you can erase that part Sorry !

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 08:00 PM ET

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A YouTube video of Nick Kypreos talking about the situation in Pittsburgh.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 05/14/14 at 08:18 PM ET

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UGH no Keenan has NO CHANCE ! Bob Johnson, Herbie Brooks & Ivan Hlinka have a better chance to be HC of Pens & they are all dead.

Mario does not like Keenan at all

Posted by Evilpens on 05/14/14 at 08:29 PM ET

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Yep & Failsma Beat the Supposed great RW’s how shitty do you feel

Yes, we all know. This is a thread about how they’ve failed ever since that final game many years ago. To wit: Shero’s built a top-heavy house of cards, Bylsma can’t coach them and Crosby takes a break in the big games. Try to keep up.

Posted by awould on 05/14/14 at 11:13 PM ET

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