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Video- Marc Staal With A Booming Hit On Matt Stajan

No penalty on the hit.

I should have a better quality video shortly.

update 10:27pm, replaced the original video with one of better quality.

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Chris from NOHS's avatar

Great, clean hit.  It is the definition of the player not paying attention.  Stajan was admiring his pass, Stall was in front of him.

Posted by Chris from NOHS from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 11/23/10 at 01:31 AM ET

PDXWing's avatar

I’m probably in the minority on this, but I just don’t understand what the purpose of that hit is. In theory, checking is allowed to separate a player from the puck, not to take his GD head off.  I’m not questioning it’s legality, just it’s usefulness in the game. As a Wings fan, I know Kronwall is known for these hits and other players have made a career doing them, but all I can think of when I see this stuff is how potentially damaging they are to the receiving player.  In this case, he’s hit after a pass is made, so it’s not about separating him from the puck, since he doesn’t have it (I know he had it when Stall committed to the hit); I guess you can make an argument for intimidation and making a player think twice about entering the zone, but it still seems excessive. It’s probably too hard to legislate out of the game, but some poor bastards are going to have their careers and lives altered by these hits, and I’m not sure for what purpose.  They are exciting and all, but are about as useful as fighting in the game (I am referring to these open ice hits when a player doesn’t have the puck).  Sure, it serves some purpose, but it’s more likely about fan entertainment than hockey. Checking when a player has the puck is a different story, of course. I don’t know, maybe studying the brain and its functioning has made me too sensitive to potential damage and has taken the fun out of watching bare knuckle fighting and punishing open ice hits that probably cause brain injury (even on a shoulder to shoulder hit, as in this case, I wouldn’t be surprised if Stajan is concussed). I guess hitting is not as exciting when you have sympathy for the player being hit.

Posted by PDXWing on 11/23/10 at 01:59 AM ET

lordhogie's avatar

I am a flames fan, so I am a little biased. I do not think it was Marc Staal’s intention to hit Stajan’s head. I think he was a good defenseman trying to make a hard open-ice check. It was a good hit in that regard.

That being said, Staal probably could have practiced a little discretion while making the hit. It looks like he started with the shoulder and finished with the elbow. It happens so fast, I can’t really blame him. I don’t think Stajan should have left himself so vulnerable, but at the same time I also feel that Staal could have easily passed that hit up. At the very least I think it deserved a penalty.

Stajan has already had 2 concussions this season. Like PDXWing says, the potential long-term damage that we are starting to find out about is making these hits less and less easy to cheer for. I am the last guy that wants hitting out of hockey, but something needs to be done.

Posted by lordhogie from Calgary on 11/23/10 at 02:33 AM ET

Flashtastick56's avatar

HUGE…clean hit.

Emphasis on the clean.  And the huge.  (that’s what she said)

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 11/23/10 at 02:40 AM ET

Mojo Tooth's avatar

I feel bad for Stajan but there is still the concept of being responsible for yourself. If Stajan takes a brief look around after he sends that pass, there’s no way this hit devastates him like that.

Posted by Mojo Tooth on 11/23/10 at 03:27 AM ET

PDXWing's avatar

I get it, but I still don’t have to like it. I like the N.A. game and am predisposed to liking the skill aspect of it more than the brawn.  I enjoy watching (and playing) hockey a lot, at all levels, but I’ve never enjoyed watching someone get hurt, in any sport. Yeah, they get paid a lot and they know the risks, but it doesn’t change the fact that they have to live a life after professional hockey and it could be damaged because of hits like these. I agree with lordhogie that it’s hard to keep cheering for hits like this when we know how damaging they can be (especially cumulatively).  But, it’s hockey and it’s a dangerous, physical sport, so I guess you have to take the good with the bad. It’s definitely a tough subject since I don’t want to see the game become over regulated and think, overall, the sport is in a good place with the level of skill and competition.

Posted by PDXWing on 11/23/10 at 03:46 AM ET

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I’ve got to say that to some extent I agree with PDXWing here.  I mean, big hits are part of why I love the game (though I’ll take a Douglas Murray hit over a Niklas Kronwall one), but watching the game when this one happened tonight, I just was left with that sinking, sick feeling while watching Stajan wobble to the bench.

I guess my big question is, even if Stajan hadn’t admired his pass for that split second too long, would the result of the hit have been that much different?  Sure—clean—but ultimately necessary?

Posted by nosferatu from Albany, NY on 11/23/10 at 04:57 AM ET

Rdwings28's avatar

do his team mates have an obligation to give him a “heads up”? or does it all happen to fast? got to know where everyone on the ice is. i agree with the notion it will make him gunshy

Posted by Rdwings28 on 11/23/10 at 10:57 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

I guess hitting is not as exciting when you have sympathy for the player being hit.

I have sympathy for Stajan and I hope he’s ok, but I like seeing checks like that.

I just hate the phrase “admiring his pass”.  He was tracking the puck coming into the zone.  Yes, it had just left his stick, but if it takes a bounce off his teammate’s lumber, then he needs to know it as soon as possible so he can adjust. 

Still, this is a crushing check from the front side.  The responsibility is on Stajan to make sure he’s got his head up and knows what’s coming.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/23/10 at 11:33 AM ET

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I love how the announcers claim it was shoulder-to-shoulder early on, but you can clearly see his head snap back as Staal got him right on the chin.  Then they say how it’s legal because it’s north-south (I kind of agree there).

But I still don’t like the hit, it has no point except to make a highlight reel.

Posted by BuzzFledderjohn on 11/23/10 at 11:38 AM ET

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but you can clearly see his head snap back as Staal got him right on the chin.

What in the hell footage are you watching?  His head snaps FORWARD and THEN back.

Posted by Garth on 11/23/10 at 12:07 PM ET

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Stajan has already had 2 concussions this season.

I really hate to be this guy, but if he’s had two concussions already, shouldn’t he be the guy who knows, more than anyone, that you have to keep your head on a swivel?

Posted by Garth on 11/23/10 at 12:12 PM ET

lordhogie's avatar

I should clarify my previous post. If Staal’s hit causes Stajan a concussion, then he will have had two this season. He has only had one previously.

Posted by lordhogie from Calgary on 11/23/10 at 12:19 PM ET

awould's avatar

Definitely not blindside. Looked a little late but not egregiously so. But I remember loving when Konstantinov layed guys out. Stajan should’ve been paying more attention. Unfortunate but I don’t see how it merits a suspension or even a penalty.

Posted by awould on 11/23/10 at 02:07 PM ET

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I am the last guy that wants hitting out of hockey, but something needs to be done.

Keep your head up - a fundamental necessity ingrained in the eatly stages of hockey developement. Good luck to Stajan’s recovery.

Posted by Jesters Dead on 11/23/10 at 04:55 PM ET

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